I expected a more worked mix, we could almost redo the same with 2 CD players by using the sampling function, it's a little bit boring, that misses dynamics, of groove, it is only my opinion ! :)
if i can remember correctly, i used a dell vostro 1500 (4 x usb)laptop but sometimes ran into trouble with usb errors. after alot of trying i finally got a decent 7 port belkin powerd usb hub as cheap one wouldnt do it. even with the belkin i ran into troubles once i had 4 xp10 mic web cam. etc..... usb2 is quite limited by default nothing you can do about it.
Nice stuff - I'm converting to digital and was going to go to Xone 4d, but would like 4 active jogs and sets of controls. This might be a better solution as I already own a DDM 4000. I'd like to get your thoughts. Also what beat matching are you using - manual / grids / auto. Finally - Mac or PC? Thanks for any response. By the way nice track selection - I always mix Yo Yo Get Funky w/ the Pyro Tech Jomanda Got a love Remixes and Fast Eddie Make some Noise.
@cooldjflush yes if you get the xone then your not gonna have any touch sensitive jogs and only two jog wheels that you ll have to hold shift to enable four. i am using grids to line the tracks but is still not simple when warping old vinyl rips like yo yo get funky or mr lee keep rokin. if you want total 4 deck control then this is the way to go if your on a budget, if you got the cash then put together something amazing but youll end up with a huge 4 deck foot print.XP10 as now discontinued:o(
@andyfoz Yeah - at home I currently run 1 cd deck and 3 1210's and was looking for a low footprint solution to start doing club gigs again. Since it's a crap shoot to know what clubs are running I was looking for something all included that I coul drop into their boards self contained thats what initially atracted me to the xone 4d or xone dx but no scratching / touch and only two jogs is an issue. Thanks for the reply.
not just pushing buttons, still have to pitch shift on the platters just like records not to mention the pain full task of warping vinyl rips in traktor is a right pain in the ass!
ja det en usb pr xp10 dæk. du har brug for en 4-port USB hub ideelt, eller en bærbar computer med 4 USB-porte.hvert dæk har sin egen usb fordi hvert dæk er faktisk en midi controller og et lydkort. Jeg vil anbefale dette til dig som en entry level system til traktor. styringerne arbejder godt sammen med Traktor pro.
Just a small question--Are you using the DDM4000 in external mixer mode through something like the audio8 interface? Or are you just hooking the midi-out up to your computer.
I'm intersted in a similar setup but with 2 xone 1ds instead of 4 xp10s
dude its called a ground loop isolator , i had t get one but upgraded my mixer to denon dnx 1500 and no need for it anymore, bison is the most stable software just make sure you have a good dual core laptop
the xp10's are wicked and all you need for djing. although you do need inline supressors to stop them hissing, google it. the ddm4000 is the most mixer and more that your going to get for this money, and of course you can map it to to traktor and serato for midi, though i dont. complete dj control without the need for an extranl sound card. a good alternative to the zone 4d at a fraction of the cost and without the bullshit,
filters? I assume you mean for the ground loop problem associated with them? And does the XP10's work well with VDJ. I have used traktor, and still prefer to use VDJ because its what I learned to use
yeh grond loop suppressors, the cheap ones are shit and you lose bass.
yeh works with vdj just fine.
i did my first gig this week with the xp10, the xp10 were great fucking traktor blue screened me just before i went on, i wanted to snap my laptop over my knee!
30 mins later sorted it but lost all my play lists and mix history, shit program! needs updates quick.
man this shit is aick as hell. can this set up be done with the cjd 1000 or cdi 500 pls. let me know how to get traktor pro to work this out or even serato sl1
The physical slider has a higher resolution, but it depends on the preset what kinds of values you can get out of it. If you use regular CC/Program Change/Note on/whatever MIDI messages you get oly 7 bits, but if you use pitch wheel or high-res CC you get higher resolution.
so funny...the computer is mixing FOR YOU and your mixing still sucks. I could do a better mix on 3 vinyl turntables anyday.....so sad when you dont bother to master your technology.
put your money were your mouth is, i could have made it perfect if i wanted to by practicing the mix over and over but to be honest i dont really give a fuck if the odd beat runs here and there, i used to but nowadays i got alot on my plate.
the only thing that stops you from making the perfect mix is when your mum shouts you "your tea is ready"
I have no fundamental issue with auto-beatmix, but nearly all of the implementations have the same problem as auto-beatmatch has had for almost ten years... it's just not a tight mix. You can hear the software "hunting" between some beats and it just makes a sloppy sounding beatmix.
btw, i dont give a f*** if you call it DJ or just a guy joking around with his tracks.....he is mixing. Basic mixing but he is....i must say that the actual MIDI protocol have serious limitations with the value range....seems like the new protocol will solve that :)
soon people wont be carrying music around on cd's anymore never mind dvd, it will all be on flash drives.
eventually all clubs will have some kind of dvs like serato or traktor just natural progression.
did you see the cdj400? pioneer already knows it, the next deck will be midi/dvd player the one after that will be just a digital/midi like music player using cards or flash drives or what ever the new medium is in the future.
no need for a cd player inside a deck anymore, what you think?
To say the "cdj is dead" is a hard sell. There are lots of perks to using a DVS, but they all come at the downfall of ease of use and reliability.
Don't get me wrong, I use an all MIDI traktor pro setup without any problems at all. But how many dj's have you met that can't get it working right or have had bad experiences with a DVS? There's also no standard bindings for MIDI controllers. At the end of the day many dj's and most clubs prefer a standard piece of kit that they know is reliable.
That's a great idea for a feature: a standard button in traktor to hit to make it search removable drives for settings files and libraries, then it lets you pick from a list of what's available. So dj's can bring in a thumb disk with settings or a portable drive with a library and settings to swap into a computer quickly.
I'm just saying the reliability of a dedicated appliance will always be greater than a PC or Mac. Especially a computer installed in a club with lots of different djs using it
Wooooo Heyyy Wooooo Heyyy Wooooo Heyyy Wooooo Heyyy ....
ProtecTueur 1 year ago
where the hell do u ppl learn these things?? is there a school for it?
Akrombio 1 year ago
I expected a more worked mix, we could almost redo the same with 2 CD players by using the sampling function, it's a little bit boring, that misses dynamics, of groove, it is only my opinion ! :)
prcheqt 1 year ago
nice
DeeJayJoenX 1 year ago
nice setup :O
DjBoreC 1 year ago
if i can remember correctly, i used a dell vostro 1500 (4 x usb)laptop but sometimes ran into trouble with usb errors. after alot of trying i finally got a decent 7 port belkin powerd usb hub as cheap one wouldnt do it. even with the belkin i ran into troubles once i had 4 xp10 mic web cam. etc..... usb2 is quite limited by default nothing you can do about it.
andyfoz 1 year ago
Two final questions - are those on 4 seperate usb connections? What computer hardware/software are you running?
cooldjflush 1 year ago
@cooldjflush software is traktor/serato/torq although i am on to other non dj projects atm
andyfoz 1 year ago
@cooldjflush you can run on one usb port up to 128 usb devices. you need just a usb splizter.
loli88 1 year ago
Nice stuff - I'm converting to digital and was going to go to Xone 4d, but would like 4 active jogs and sets of controls. This might be a better solution as I already own a DDM 4000. I'd like to get your thoughts. Also what beat matching are you using - manual / grids / auto. Finally - Mac or PC? Thanks for any response. By the way nice track selection - I always mix Yo Yo Get Funky w/ the Pyro Tech Jomanda Got a love Remixes and Fast Eddie Make some Noise.
cooldjflush 1 year ago
@cooldjflush yes if you get the xone then your not gonna have any touch sensitive jogs and only two jog wheels that you ll have to hold shift to enable four. i am using grids to line the tracks but is still not simple when warping old vinyl rips like yo yo get funky or mr lee keep rokin. if you want total 4 deck control then this is the way to go if your on a budget, if you got the cash then put together something amazing but youll end up with a huge 4 deck foot print.XP10 as now discontinued:o(
andyfoz 1 year ago
@andyfoz Yeah - at home I currently run 1 cd deck and 3 1210's and was looking for a low footprint solution to start doing club gigs again. Since it's a crap shoot to know what clubs are running I was looking for something all included that I coul drop into their boards self contained thats what initially atracted me to the xone 4d or xone dx but no scratching / touch and only two jogs is an issue. Thanks for the reply.
cooldjflush 1 year ago
just put a tick in all the eks boxes, external mixing
andyfoz 1 year ago
Great mix! I'm really intrigued by those EKS controllers. And what mixer are you using - is it MIDI or analog?
spyro303 1 year ago
stupid eks has discontinued this product, they seem to think you need to pay 600 quid for the otus each!!
the mixer is a ddm4000 and it is midi, though im not using the midi atm.
get the xp10 they are a sound card too,
andyfoz 1 year ago
cool!
freebird9 1 year ago
not to hate but theres no talent in this. its just pushing buttons here and there.. nice song selection tho..
asept2k8 2 years ago
not just pushing buttons, still have to pitch shift on the platters just like records not to mention the pain full task of warping vinyl rips in traktor is a right pain in the ass!
especially old vinyl
andyfoz 2 years ago
Good DJs make it look effortless.
spyro303 1 year ago
ja det en usb pr xp10 dæk. du har brug for en 4-port USB hub ideelt, eller en bærbar computer med 4 USB-porte.hvert dæk har sin egen usb fordi hvert dæk er faktisk en midi controller og et lydkort. Jeg vil anbefale dette til dig som en entry level system til traktor. styringerne arbejder godt sammen med Traktor pro.
andyfoz 2 years ago
where is the title @ 5.27 please??
RogerStillerDeejay 2 years ago
its called bring the noise by public enemy... id sugest listening to benny benassi's version of it. it is sick.
XXAlbaneziXX 1 year ago
That's some Richie Hawtin shit right there.
BiiPiiGii 2 years ago
what did you win and why?
hoostra 2 years ago
Really nice mix!!
Just a small question--Are you using the DDM4000 in external mixer mode through something like the audio8 interface? Or are you just hooking the midi-out up to your computer.
I'm intersted in a similar setup but with 2 xone 1ds instead of 4 xp10s
Seedorfra 2 years ago 2
dude its called a ground loop isolator , i had t get one but upgraded my mixer to denon dnx 1500 and no need for it anymore, bison is the most stable software just make sure you have a good dual core laptop
gerthedj 2 years ago
Nice work man, you got your shit sorted out nicely xD
MinDBlanK1 2 years ago
awesome stuff hows the long term use of the EKS and DDM? I am trying to read reviews before purchase. your insight would be appreciative!
DJGrooveD 2 years ago
the xp10's are wicked and all you need for djing. although you do need inline supressors to stop them hissing, google it. the ddm4000 is the most mixer and more that your going to get for this money, and of course you can map it to to traktor and serato for midi, though i dont. complete dj control without the need for an extranl sound card. a good alternative to the zone 4d at a fraction of the cost and without the bullshit,
andyfoz 2 years ago
filters? I assume you mean for the ground loop problem associated with them? And does the XP10's work well with VDJ. I have used traktor, and still prefer to use VDJ because its what I learned to use
DJGrooveD 2 years ago
yeh grond loop suppressors, the cheap ones are shit and you lose bass.
yeh works with vdj just fine.
i did my first gig this week with the xp10, the xp10 were great fucking traktor blue screened me just before i went on, i wanted to snap my laptop over my knee!
30 mins later sorted it but lost all my play lists and mix history, shit program! needs updates quick.
traktor 3 was rock solid traktor pro is shite.
andyfoz 2 years ago
wicked sound is there any link 4 me to get a copy of your set
PAULROBOT123 2 years ago
Nice mouse... =)
HELPTHEHOMELESS32 2 years ago
man this shit is aick as hell. can this set up be done with the cjd 1000 or cdi 500 pls. let me know how to get traktor pro to work this out or even serato sl1
girllearning2sing 2 years ago
yep you can use and cd deck or midi controller with traktor scratch pro.
or 4 midi controllers with traktor pro.
andyfoz 2 years ago
sick bro!!!!!are those lil mini usb deck controllers?????
DJDOMINATE00 2 years ago
they are usb midi controllers yes.
EKS XP10 - 4 units
andyfoz 2 years ago
does traktor eliminate beat matching?does it do it for you?
lkrux 2 years ago
if you beat grid your tracks properly it can do a good job of beatmatching
andyfoz 2 years ago
What midi controllers are you using?
joshrobbs 2 years ago
eks xp10 google it
andyfoz 2 years ago
playlist please ;-)
aykutdisco 2 years ago
already done the playlist use your eyes, and dont post this question again
andyfoz 2 years ago
playlist please ;-)
aykutdisco 2 years ago
1. retro kidz im so fresh - van helden dubplate
2. fast eddy - yo yo get funky
3. mr lee - keep rockin
4. public enemy remix - ????
5. pump and flop - see djdwonload or beatport
andyfoz 2 years ago
Hi , i need Help
i use traktor Pro ,but i can not connect MEP 7000 (pioneer )
can you tell me in steps pls ?
1) audio set up is my SOundcard ?
2 output routing ? internal or external ?
3) midi setup ''i dont see (MEP 7000)
do i need a driver from pioneer ? or traktor ??
Leonardotje 2 years ago
what exactly is the latency you get with the xp10 controllers using traktor? 4ms?
bigred850 2 years ago
traktor 3.3 with dell vostro is 4ms
traktor pro with dell vostro 14ms
but no difference in actual use, ie no delay
andyfoz 2 years ago
if you press sync without worrying with the kick-snare pattern, you will mess the beatmatching
deaddevil6 2 years ago
i didnt use a beat marker on the kick snare, i always placed it on the first beat dispite what ean golden says.
i can press sync at any point and it is ok.
is there a point to your comments?
andyfoz 2 years ago
does the pitch fader only have 128 positions, like the VCI 100?
deaddevil6 2 years ago
100mm full size pitch fader. its as sensitive as the software you use it with.
andyfoz 2 years ago
yeah but do you have the 128 positions problem? regular midi controllers have that problem =/
deaddevil6 2 years ago
i dont know of this problem, traktor is auto sync so i dont even touch the fader sorry.
andyfoz 2 years ago
The physical slider has a higher resolution, but it depends on the preset what kinds of values you can get out of it. If you use regular CC/Program Change/Note on/whatever MIDI messages you get oly 7 bits, but if you use pitch wheel or high-res CC you get higher resolution.
DMStern 2 years ago
so funny...the computer is mixing FOR YOU and your mixing still sucks. I could do a better mix on 3 vinyl turntables anyday.....so sad when you dont bother to master your technology.
mrkleen07 2 years ago
post a video then mate, lets see what you can do.
put your money were your mouth is, i could have made it perfect if i wanted to by practicing the mix over and over but to be honest i dont really give a fuck if the odd beat runs here and there, i used to but nowadays i got alot on my plate.
the only thing that stops you from making the perfect mix is when your mum shouts you "your tea is ready"
andyfoz 2 years ago
autosync is near perfect in the new traktor when using digital 4x4 beat house music.
this mix was almost impossible to make sound perfect as the tracks are all vinyl rips except last track.
andyfoz 2 years ago
I have no fundamental issue with auto-beatmix, but nearly all of the implementations have the same problem as auto-beatmatch has had for almost ten years... it's just not a tight mix. You can hear the software "hunting" between some beats and it just makes a sloppy sounding beatmix.
jeffdafoe 2 years ago
you have to find the first beat and press play when you hear a the first beat in the song that is play. it will help a lot
deaddevil6 2 years ago
This is not DJing as there is no actual discs involved, not matching the coined term "Disc Jockey". Also these are not decks.
you are not doing anything that couldnt be done on a set of 1210. No juggling, no scratching, no beatmatching just plain boring blending woo
PANDEMONIUMDJ 2 years ago
thtas the point. no discs no decks. this is a new concept, perhaps the future. go away and have a think about what your point is.
dont let your mind wander to far though, its to small to be out on its own.
andyfoz 2 years ago
Please do not insult my intelligence. It is very probable that mine far exceeds yours.
PANDEMONIUMDJ 2 years ago
so...show us a video :)
btw, i dont give a f*** if you call it DJ or just a guy joking around with his tracks.....he is mixing. Basic mixing but he is....i must say that the actual MIDI protocol have serious limitations with the value range....seems like the new protocol will solve that :)
deaddevil6 2 years ago
Horrible. 15 yrs and you cant match a beat or make a good transition to save your life? WOW I'm speechless
amagley 2 years ago
yeh im totally shit arnt i, lol!
andyfoz 2 years ago
i have got the same mixer!!!
BEHRINGER DDM 4000!!! THE BEST!!!!!!
pierilsuperragio 2 years ago
Thats not DJing, that pushing buttons.
RIP Vinyl! =[
UltimoMondoBizarro 2 years ago
i got 1210's for 15 years, so i am a qualified button pusher.
andyfoz 2 years ago
will this work on a mac
Shalom889 2 years ago
yes traktor for mac
andyfoz 2 years ago
bailingmarne stop posting links youtube are removing your comments
andyfoz 3 years ago
strange cd players !whats their brand?nice mix .
DJOrfaRulzz 3 years ago
eks xp10 midi controllers, not cd, cdj is dead or the begin of the end for them
andyfoz 3 years ago
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bailingmarne 3 years ago
Dude. Its not "dead". Nowhere near. Why do you say this?
itspym 3 years ago
soon people wont be carrying music around on cd's anymore never mind dvd, it will all be on flash drives.
eventually all clubs will have some kind of dvs like serato or traktor just natural progression.
did you see the cdj400? pioneer already knows it, the next deck will be midi/dvd player the one after that will be just a digital/midi like music player using cards or flash drives or what ever the new medium is in the future.
no need for a cd player inside a deck anymore, what you think?
andyfoz 3 years ago
To say the "cdj is dead" is a hard sell. There are lots of perks to using a DVS, but they all come at the downfall of ease of use and reliability.
Don't get me wrong, I use an all MIDI traktor pro setup without any problems at all. But how many dj's have you met that can't get it working right or have had bad experiences with a DVS? There's also no standard bindings for MIDI controllers. At the end of the day many dj's and most clubs prefer a standard piece of kit that they know is reliable.
typodaemon 3 years ago
yes but i mean in the future, it will be all midi controllers, pioneers probably with quick load tsi files for each dj
andyfoz 3 years ago
That's a great idea for a feature: a standard button in traktor to hit to make it search removable drives for settings files and libraries, then it lets you pick from a list of what's available. So dj's can bring in a thumb disk with settings or a portable drive with a library and settings to swap into a computer quickly.
I'm just saying the reliability of a dedicated appliance will always be greater than a PC or Mac. Especially a computer installed in a club with lots of different djs using it
typodaemon 3 years ago
10 4
andyfoz 3 years ago
cdj is an obsolete equipment
deaddevil6 2 years ago
never saw a setup like this b4 :o
nice razer mouse btw :P
DonUzaki 3 years ago
yeh set up is wicked!
mouse gave me pain in my hand after a few weeks on cod 4 :(
andyfoz 3 years ago
nice
ctelon 3 years ago