Being with your pain does not mean you don't find a way to change the situation. It is being with what IS and make friends with it. Otherwise, our resistance creates a lot of added suffering to the situation.
I appreciate this, however, if one has suffered from serious and debilitating depression or grief -- grief for me -- the idea of staying in it can be a dangerous one. I get the teaching here and embracing the suffering with egolessness of sorts and I have done that, I have had to be watchful of it. My experiences with depression aren't bad as those with chronic depression, but still I look for exit for survival and I don't wish to worship the depression.
She isn't saying stay in the 'pain' she's teaching that to be able to get clear of "suffering" - our inner made and amplified negativity - we need to be okay with the "pain" - pain being those things we have no control over in life, like death or someone saying mean things. She explains it very well in the "Lousy World" video and the Bill Moyers videos. To put it in a Christian way; "turn the other cheek". Don't take negative things into your self. practice letting it (suffering) go.
@BookandCandle Thank you for the reply. I went back this video with your wisdom. I still get it. I personally have gone into my pain to find "balance" with it and out of it had clarity. Pema is correct. Reginald Ray says and practices the same thing. It is quite a juggernaut for the individual and people around them. There is an implied goal of dark night soul travel to come to the dawn. Can it be misinterpreted by some to say in depression or pain?
@BookandCandle Yeah, I went to Lousy World and that is exactly what was concerning me. I have a friend who studied Pema who has been in a five year depression and always concerned about how this or that is making her world a living hell. When you suggest to her to get treatment, her eyes glaze over more than they already are. It really is externalizing the cause of the pain rather than face it. Be in it but not of it. [Lights went on!]
all you have to do is open your heart. Well, actually, your ego thinks that if you do that then you are weak. Thats how it tricks you. So you better not. Better just keep that sucker closed. ;-)
One insight I had when my dad was dying and things just kept falling to pieces:
When the world has upset your apple cart, one choice is to right the cart and pick up the apples and dust them off. Another is to dare to ask yourself whether you really want to be in the apple-selling business anyway.
Great post. It seems like if she were talking about my life experience in the past few months: that feeling of what you had done habitually is not working anymore and you need that it is time to die (not literally).
And as one confronts their issues, may we be reminded that nothing ever goes away until its taught us what we need to know.
missreggae1luv 4 months ago
Being with your pain does not mean you don't find a way to change the situation. It is being with what IS and make friends with it. Otherwise, our resistance creates a lot of added suffering to the situation.
merylste 6 months ago
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I appreciate this, however, if one has suffered from serious and debilitating depression or grief -- grief for me -- the idea of staying in it can be a dangerous one. I get the teaching here and embracing the suffering with egolessness of sorts and I have done that, I have had to be watchful of it. My experiences with depression aren't bad as those with chronic depression, but still I look for exit for survival and I don't wish to worship the depression.
eotto2001 9 months ago
She isn't saying stay in the 'pain' she's teaching that to be able to get clear of "suffering" - our inner made and amplified negativity - we need to be okay with the "pain" - pain being those things we have no control over in life, like death or someone saying mean things. She explains it very well in the "Lousy World" video and the Bill Moyers videos. To put it in a Christian way; "turn the other cheek". Don't take negative things into your self. practice letting it (suffering) go.
BookandCandle 6 months ago
@BookandCandle Thank you for the reply. I went back this video with your wisdom. I still get it. I personally have gone into my pain to find "balance" with it and out of it had clarity. Pema is correct. Reginald Ray says and practices the same thing. It is quite a juggernaut for the individual and people around them. There is an implied goal of dark night soul travel to come to the dawn. Can it be misinterpreted by some to say in depression or pain?
eotto2001 6 months ago
@BookandCandle Yeah, I went to Lousy World and that is exactly what was concerning me. I have a friend who studied Pema who has been in a five year depression and always concerned about how this or that is making her world a living hell. When you suggest to her to get treatment, her eyes glaze over more than they already are. It really is externalizing the cause of the pain rather than face it. Be in it but not of it. [Lights went on!]
eotto2001 6 months ago
this gets closer too me and what i know than almost any other teacher ive heard.
outjazzer 1 year ago
all you have to do is open your heart. Well, actually, your ego thinks that if you do that then you are weak. Thats how it tricks you. So you better not. Better just keep that sucker closed. ;-)
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TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
Thank you for posting. Very helpful and beautiful.
KikiRevenge 1 year ago
One insight I had when my dad was dying and things just kept falling to pieces:
When the world has upset your apple cart, one choice is to right the cart and pick up the apples and dust them off. Another is to dare to ask yourself whether you really want to be in the apple-selling business anyway.
lbb67 1 year ago 3
@lbb67 - well put!
druidia9 1 year ago
@lbb67 that is a great insight!
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peacemaker2020 1 year ago
thank you :) this is really nice and helpful.
isness1ness 2 years ago 3
the best...............
sheilaskk1 2 years ago
3:17 is so true
shamanizing 2 years ago
pema floors me everytime, her teachings are sooo vast and nuanced. and help me sooo very much.
hornybodhisattva 2 years ago 13
@hornybodhisattva lol i love your handle...it's very honest, and let's say I can relate to it!
luyendao 1 year ago
@luyendao A sense of humor is a sign of enlightment! ;P
hornybodhisattva 1 year ago
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chaslucy2 2 years ago
This is good stuff!!
falconbrother1 2 years ago 2
Why do these videos always cut off!
600euros 3 years ago 8
see? shenpa.
7spqr7 2 years ago 3
From a marketing point of view? Well, to "solve the problem" you need to finish what she's saying.
There's a fundamental irony to that, I think.
meogxevax 2 years ago
Great post. It seems like if she were talking about my life experience in the past few months: that feeling of what you had done habitually is not working anymore and you need that it is time to die (not literally).
TheAleph74 3 years ago 5