Anyone else remember "Southern Belle", a mid-80s steam train simulator for microcomputers? You controlled a "King Arthur" type loco on the Victoria-Brighton run (the demo mode was a high-speed run, obviously inspired by this film). Some of the detail was amazing; lineside features included Battersea Power Station, a windmill near Hassocks, Clayton Tunnel's castle-like portal. And when the next station sign said "Three Bridges", you passed under two bridges and over a third!
Try this! Turn the sound down and then open a new tab and play The song "Land of Confusion" by Genesis. Doesn't it make a good soundtrack for this film?
I think this video would be good with Queen's 'I want to break free' ..if you start the music at 28 seconds in to the film it just about fits, make sure you mute the video :P then play the music in another tab or window or what ever....
I felt like I was still in motion when we stopped at Brighton - took me a while to adjust! Was interesting to spot my town's two stations, however they look no different to how they do now.
London-Brighton film was made about 1950 and was always a popular BBC request item, but it was never used as an interval or spare time filler. There are a couple of discontinuities in it: first, the passengers are clearly seen leaving Victoria in the Brighton Belle, but when they alight at the other end there isn't a Pullman car in sight; second about half way down the line the camera became dislodged from its mounting - which is why there are a couple of 'noddy' profile shots of the driver.
Very cool, I got routed here from an interaction w/ other subscribers watching 'Rush Hour (1970)' on BFI films. Also reminds me of The Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar, check them out if you can, you may enjoy them.
There was another one, very similar to this except that it had a guy with a BBC accent, naratting, almost singing, a rhyming limerick. The rhyme pertained to motion and speed and trains, but was spoken in a sort of monotone voice, it was amazing and I never did actually see it all, I was born in Liverpool in 1959.
@drzozzy are you serious? surely that's the night mail crossing the border bringing the cheque and the postal order? i thought that was as well known as the fucking lord's prayer
I take this journey often. The landscape, bridges etc - wow, how different it seems. Would be great to see a modern-day colour version just to compare, frame by frame!
The train at the start is the Brighton Belle, a supplemented-fare Pullman express that ran non-stop between London and Brighton, 52 miles, in exactly one hour. It probably got into the high 70s or 80s in open country.
The object the lady is carrying may be a special delivery of cans or boxes for an expensive shop, restaurant or hotel in Brighton. With Pullman service, not a bad job!
The train seen at Brighton is an ordinary Southern Region set.
i love this !! i alwas travel from Victoria, London to my home in Preston Park, Brighton, though not in the 1950's and not at that speed. the last tiny station just before the terminus is my local right by my home !!
Gone are the days of well educated articulate presenters, anyone, any colour any grunt will do now. The interval time also allowed for the TV cameras to cool.
victoria station exterior photo is different today because the foreground leftbuilding has been demolished; while waiting for construction there is a good wide view of the several station buildings.
I remember seeing this as a kid about 1961 by which time it had a soundtrack using the instrumental "Wheels" the tune that "Silver Statue" fellow on "Opportunity Knocks" used to move his muscles too- anyone care to upload that!
It was made in 1952. Most of the stations and other landmarks on the route are recognisable still, though there have been some changes. What is the woman at Victoria (first through the ticket barrier) carrying?
Hi RJ4960, the strange thing is, the quality of my original is good. When I uploaded it to youtube, they compressed it so much that the quality is rubbish.
Shame - but there might be an answer (apart from asking YouTube why this happened)... you could try encoding it yourself as an .flv file, the format they use. Google 'FLVplayer' and you'll find a great freebie download which will cross code video files. I'm thinking that the smaller your file size then the less the system will mangle it by compressing it once you upload it. Worth another try, I feel.
I can remember for a Windmill production, this and another modern version were merged together with music. I have a copy somewhere on video but can someone try and upload it??
Well, the London, Brighton & South Coast had overhead electrified suburban lines before WWI, but the Southern Region's been all 3rd Rail since the 20s. London Underground uses a 4th Rail system; whilst electrified lines north of London are 25kV AC catenary.
Southern Region as far as Hampshire was 3rd rail- beyond Bournemouth etc it goes non- electric to Exeter and the former lines to Devon and Cornwall- Barnstaple, ilfracombe etc...
I must be odd or something..but I actually would like to watch this at normal speed.
priapus56 1 month ago
this is fantastic. my dad recorded this off the tv when it was on years ago, ive grown up watching this!
jnisb29 1 month ago
fantastic
defoekeane 3 months ago
CAB RIDE MANCHESTER TO CHESTER GO TO
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superjock68 4 months ago
I can remember those days very well. I had forgotten though that everyone dressed smartly in those days! Good film.
kafcan 5 months ago
time-lapse rulez!! Do you know you can make time-lpase movies with any camera with this device: (copy address to browser): tempusALL.bymac.org
Works with ANY camera! ckeck it out :P
bymacorg20 6 months ago
Lol, I might be too tired but I fell asleep.
MayBellez02 7 months ago
oh wh y must a bleeding diesel pull the train? steam engines are the best, especially the gwr!
accadaccasuperstar 7 months ago
@scotsman60163 anyone looking at the clip from outside the station at London can tell you its way earlier than 1967 just by looking at the cars!
davidsan01 8 months ago
who was the presenter at the beggining?
davidsan01 8 months ago
this was 1953
MrBriancollison 9 months ago
Looks to me like they get on the Brighton Belle but get off a different train!
dw13970 10 months ago
Woah. Check out that smog. Battersea power station is a shadow in this.
BeTheDeathOfMe 10 months ago
Anyone else remember "Southern Belle", a mid-80s steam train simulator for microcomputers? You controlled a "King Arthur" type loco on the Victoria-Brighton run (the demo mode was a high-speed run, obviously inspired by this film). Some of the detail was amazing; lineside features included Battersea Power Station, a windmill near Hassocks, Clayton Tunnel's castle-like portal. And when the next station sign said "Three Bridges", you passed under two bridges and over a third!
Dristarg 11 months ago
A question that really bugged me during this entire video: what kind of motive power are we talking about here?
ecologist96 1 year ago
Try this! Turn the sound down and then open a new tab and play The song "Land of Confusion" by Genesis. Doesn't it make a good soundtrack for this film?
benthejrporter 1 year ago
Wow they can speed it up.
minotaur878 1 year ago
I wish it could go so fast! I live in Brighton.
Soralella71 1 year ago
traveled this route many times would love to watch normal spead to see the changes
kitkat6026 1 year ago
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kitkat6026 1 year ago
Attention all passengers! Please do NOT put out your cigarettes and pipes when you board! Thank you for smoking!
39machine 1 year ago
I think this video would be good with Queen's 'I want to break free' ..if you start the music at 28 seconds in to the film it just about fits, make sure you mute the video :P then play the music in another tab or window or what ever....
jonaspollard 1 year ago
I felt like I was still in motion when we stopped at Brighton - took me a while to adjust! Was interesting to spot my town's two stations, however they look no different to how they do now.
Clairenna 1 year ago
The best part was at 5:23
FlamingIceCubez 1 year ago 2
i didnt know trains could do 550 mph in 1950?, the driver didnt even look scared.
ratcliffave 1 year ago
Hahah. Gatwick airport is basicly non-existent in this.
Strange comparing it now.
BeTheDeathOfMe 1 year ago
well, well... crazy ...
butti9249 1 year ago
My father used to stand on one of the bridges with a breeze block.
bonnie43uk 1 year ago
look at the smoke form battersea powerstarion !! wow
LJJ23ARSRUL 1 year ago
I wonde if this ever became a blockbuster in the cinema... Hahaha, I love that everything has been sped up.
Castrovalva3 1 year ago
The worlds first fast forward video? :D Skip the boring part! :D
Taisykis 2 years ago
London-Brighton film was made about 1950 and was always a popular BBC request item, but it was never used as an interval or spare time filler. There are a couple of discontinuities in it: first, the passengers are clearly seen leaving Victoria in the Brighton Belle, but when they alight at the other end there isn't a Pullman car in sight; second about half way down the line the camera became dislodged from its mounting - which is why there are a couple of 'noddy' profile shots of the driver.
MrTalayHo 2 years ago
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why did they always have that annoying music? Every damn old feed has that silly narration and daft music.
DLPBurke 2 years ago
The music is on the original sound-track - that's why.
DADRENO 2 years ago
That isnt what I asked.
DLPBurke 2 years ago
lolz i put on yakety sax in the background
ThatPhagg0t 2 years ago
Very cool, I got routed here from an interaction w/ other subscribers watching 'Rush Hour (1970)' on BFI films. Also reminds me of The Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar, check them out if you can, you may enjoy them.
kludd28 2 years ago
The times when telly was worth watching and everything was desant.
Starryvideos 2 years ago 7
if u look here on youtube you can see the film of the nitemail
searleflesher 2 years ago
There was another one, very similar to this except that it had a guy with a BBC accent, naratting, almost singing, a rhyming limerick. The rhyme pertained to motion and speed and trains, but was spoken in a sort of monotone voice, it was amazing and I never did actually see it all, I was born in Liverpool in 1959.
Scousar 2 years ago
Yes, that was a film about the night train carrying post and milk across the country, it's bound to be on here somewhere
drzozzy 2 years ago
@drzozzy are you serious? surely that's the night mail crossing the border bringing the cheque and the postal order? i thought that was as well known as the fucking lord's prayer
BarnacleGooseInvalid 1 year ago
@drzozzy That was "Night Mail" It's on DVD from Ebay or Amazon. No milk though.
briggerful 6 months ago
@drzozzy @Scousar - the poem you're talking about is "This is the night mail" - WH Auden, if you search on YT for that title you'll find a copy of it.
david552 6 months ago
It's called "Night Mail", made in 1936, with poetry by WH Auden and music by Benjamin Britten.
Various versions are on YouTube, and it's well worth finding.
danlefou 2 years ago
@Scousar This is the night mail
pompeytid1970 1 year ago
@Scousar You might be thinking of "Night Mail" by W H Auden
SwanningAbout 1 year ago
@Scousar Its called Night Mail
BRANDY60rocks 1 year ago
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@Scousar Its called Night Mail it is on You Tube
BRANDY60rocks 1 year ago
It's great, even if you're not a train-obsessive. the speed makes it very entertaining and kind of hypnotic.
(thanks FARK)
Steve7508 2 years ago
Hey a fellow FARKer....and yes the speed does make it hypnotic.
way2fast14 2 years ago
So how long would this trip usually take?
This is oddly fascinating. I even enjoyed watching the bug splats add up on the glass. Whoever came up with this idea was a genius.
xj14y 2 years ago
Nice, wanna be a driver
ya13er 2 years ago
This must've been so great to see this occasionally on old British TV.
stokepogue 3 years ago
Good!
VL8M 3 years ago
i went on this at the NRM. IT WAS SOOO FUCKING FAST!!!!!!!!!!
HydraVipa 3 years ago
I take this journey often. The landscape, bridges etc - wow, how different it seems. Would be great to see a modern-day colour version just to compare, frame by frame!
areyoureceivingme 3 years ago
I've got a copy of this on an 8mm reel.
TashkentFox 3 years ago
Actual maximum speed of these trains was 75mph.
danlefou 3 years ago 6
The train at the start is the Brighton Belle, a supplemented-fare Pullman express that ran non-stop between London and Brighton, 52 miles, in exactly one hour. It probably got into the high 70s or 80s in open country.
The object the lady is carrying may be a special delivery of cans or boxes for an expensive shop, restaurant or hotel in Brighton. With Pullman service, not a bad job!
The train seen at Brighton is an ordinary Southern Region set.
danlefou 3 years ago
Has the Brighton Belle been preserved?
fordlandau 3 years ago
yes
Deadfox7777 3 years ago
Gosh! This brought back childhood memories. I rememeber being enthralled as a child when they used to show this.
Jonsimzadi 3 years ago
Wow! 765 mph imagine that,enough though its fastforward.
AlanMcB 3 years ago
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Someone should put this to the Madonna soundtrack- '4 minutes to save the world (before we get to Brighton)'
beagle3341 3 years ago
I wish someone would post the potters wheel interlude.
Redshift21 3 years ago
railtrack pissed all the money away!
bigimprint 3 years ago 2
Not watched this in years,Great stuff!!
ay76 4 years ago
sounds better with 'one of these days' by pink floyd as soundtrack
bigimprint 3 years ago
cool!!
ay76 3 years ago
this is at the national rail museam in the simulator in york
bcm409 4 years ago
I live on the line too i reckon those of us near the line shud arrange a meet lol it is amazing seeing how it looked in the 50's
searleflesher 4 years ago
Those were the days.....You can almost smell the smoke!
penfloyd 4 years ago
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I'm guessing the majority of the commenters here are Brits. Howdy!
Was this used in an episode of the Gerry Anderson "SuperCar"? The episode with the atomic train?
jsl151850b 4 years ago
i love this !! i alwas travel from Victoria, London to my home in Preston Park, Brighton, though not in the 1950's and not at that speed. the last tiny station just before the terminus is my local right by my home !!
thinWhiteDuke73 4 years ago
Gone are the days of well educated articulate presenters, anyone, any colour any grunt will do now. The interval time also allowed for the TV cameras to cool.
lopzilla 4 years ago
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE let go again let go again lol
Owentheguitarist666 4 years ago
So, why does it take about an hour today? Privatisation I suppose.
muteswan53 4 years ago 2
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bland propaganda!!!!!
rosielappy 4 years ago
victoria station exterior photo is different today because the foreground leftbuilding has been demolished; while waiting for construction there is a good wide view of the several station buildings.
hurry!
sw1q 4 years ago
I remember seeing this as a kid about 1961 by which time it had a soundtrack using the instrumental "Wheels" the tune that "Silver Statue" fellow on "Opportunity Knocks" used to move his muscles too- anyone care to upload that!
NickRatnieks 4 years ago
It was made in 1952. Most of the stations and other landmarks on the route are recognisable still, though there have been some changes. What is the woman at Victoria (first through the ticket barrier) carrying?
justpassing 4 years ago
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a gay box !
sw1q 4 years ago
What is year?
jeka3000 4 years ago
Er, 1950's at a guess. Perhaps someone else can tell us?
drzozzy 4 years ago
A real find - haven't seen this for years. Thanks.
Shame about the quality, though; can anyone do better?
RJ4960 4 years ago 2
Hi RJ4960, the strange thing is, the quality of my original is good. When I uploaded it to youtube, they compressed it so much that the quality is rubbish.
drzozzy 4 years ago
Shame - but there might be an answer (apart from asking YouTube why this happened)... you could try encoding it yourself as an .flv file, the format they use. Google 'FLVplayer' and you'll find a great freebie download which will cross code video files. I'm thinking that the smaller your file size then the less the system will mangle it by compressing it once you upload it. Worth another try, I feel.
Good luck, and thanks again for the post.
RJ4960 4 years ago
@drzozzy
I have been trying to download a 50mb version that is presumably better quality with no success. Many thanks for this it is the next best thing.
anotherindiekid 1 year ago
I can remember for a Windmill production, this and another modern version were merged together with music. I have a copy somewhere on video but can someone try and upload it??
benlu123 4 years ago
Well, the London, Brighton & South Coast had overhead electrified suburban lines before WWI, but the Southern Region's been all 3rd Rail since the 20s. London Underground uses a 4th Rail system; whilst electrified lines north of London are 25kV AC catenary.
aristophanes2000 5 years ago
The overhead catenary of the Channel Tunnel link has ruined the Kent countryside.
3RD RAIL RULES!
glenrea 4 years ago
Southern Region as far as Hampshire was 3rd rail- beyond Bournemouth etc it goes non- electric to Exeter and the former lines to Devon and Cornwall- Barnstaple, ilfracombe etc...
LeamingtonSteve 4 years ago 2
I always thought that , contrary to LT..BR always ran electric services through overhead cables? Isnt that a third rail system?
nostromoau 5 years ago