Thomas P.M. Barnett - Explanation of War & Terrorism (1/3)

[hymnofashes]

Smarter than me about his subject, but dishonest. Revisionist. Talks too fast. Untrustworthy.

[halfmuslim]

prolegomena to the study of an elephant.

[kbobshacker]

NWO scum! This guy is also a member of CFR.

[adamboots1]

NAZI FASICT SCUM. Most of the underdeveloped world is "plagued with conflict" because the USA instigates, funds or encourages it. Take your head out of your ass. Your country does NOT own the planet!

Where is the opinion of people of the underdeveloped world in all of these statements? NOWHERE because no-one ever bothers to ask them or count them when therre dead for that matter. NAZI SCUM!!!!!!

Someone should "close the gap" you call your brain.

[mencken]

You really should get a history book one time- hint, conflict was around everywhere long before the US came along.

The opinions of the underdeveloped are "not there" because this is an analysis of the American strategic situation for an audience of analysts and not a BBC after school special on tolerance and the loveliness of world culture. Moron.

[simontrent1475]

And the ideas this minion presents are not in the true interest of the United States, but only those who use it as a cudgel against any form of independence among nations and resistance to globalisation achieved through zio-fascist corporate domination.

[mencken]

Aw, that's so cute- you've learned to put a few catchphrases on the web using your 'I'm A Big Boy Now' keyboard.

Maybe one day, long after you've finished high school, you'll have an errant thought about the issue instead of repeating some hackneyed conspiratorial nonsense you gleaned from a blog written by a pale paranoid writing from his mom's basement.

Maybe you will, but I doubt it, because while you can eventually grow up, you can't outgrow stupid.

[simontrent1475]

Cunt.

There's nothing more hackneyed than insulting someone else about living in the parents' basement or not getting out of high school. But since you're so intellectually superior and conspiracies don't exist because after all no one could possibly have control over the current system, please explain how it is in America's interest to make the world safe for Wall Street.

[mencken]

I don't have to..what was it? Ah yes, "explain how it is in America's interest to make the world safe for Wall Street" because the entire idea begs the question to begin with, and in a particularly stupid and paranoid way.

It's a religious belief you have there: you need to believe something nefarious is in control of everything, just like your type believed in the Illuminati and Masons conspiracies in the 19th century. You're merely an updated version of the superstitious medieval peasant.

[simontrent1475]

Gyrode, just because Barnett has a trenchant sense of humor doesn't make him funny when he is talking about administering the world through unvarnished force. Mencken, you've got the wrong guy. Stop projecting. I'm sorry you don't understand the connections between power and money, and your inadequacy compels you to hurl quasi-literate fratboy insults. Here's hoping your portfolio crashes in flames and you learn that your gubmint doesn't give a shit about you.

[mencken]

Projecting what? That your queries beg the question?

As far as money and power goes, you've got a simple radical's view: the one that sees only intersections of money instead of accurately putting money as one power node in a huge ven diagram of ideology, special interests, personal proclivities, business, geopolitical considerations, unions, and resource counting.

When your type speak about money and power, you always end up sounding like children, and there isn't any coincidence in that.

[hymnofashes]

@mencken Institutions behave much differently than the individuals who compose them. I think you have arrangements between institutions that function exactly as though there were a conspiracy despite the fact that individual actors are only semi-cognizant of it.

[Gyrode]

Barnett said once, sarcastically in reference to Israel, "It takes a bulldozer to raze a village." I don't even think you know enough about this guy, you already assume aspects of this guy's politics that make you look impulsive, and frankly, looking for a good flame.

[yourboycal]

You dont need to get itno all this gap and shitfitng nonsence...the plan is basic eliminate any country not down with a new world government..wipe out any country thats not in debt to world bank and imf... iran..syria..venezula ...any one who stands in the way of a world government gets wiped out..war is nothing more then transwer of power from alotta super powers to just a few... we dont need to complicate it more then that ..anything else u add your just clouding the main cause

[ARTAUDIOJOTA]

Can you link to any information more clear and direct regarding your comment?

[yourboycal]

google what country owes to IMF and u'll see whos a slave google what countries arent under IMF and u'll see what countries need to be conqured

[mencken]

Interesting that your lists of countries that you think are just peachy are also lists of countries no one wants to live in and have oil.

[vtcpdx]

It's telling that this Zionist pig had meetings with the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald. Does anyone remember this CEO's pathetic crocodile tears during his interview after the attacks? He was given foreknowledge.

[Gyrode]

This guy's a Roman Catholic, and pretty liberal might I add. Additionally, he is against bombing Iran and has given explanations on the inevitability of an Iranian nuke (Think about it.)....forget it, I'll explain, Since Israel has nukes, Iran wants them as a qui pro quo. Ironically, with both countries having nukes the idea is that they won't touch eachother.

[vtcpdx]

You're a pedantic idiot. I hold a BS in poli sci and I doubt there is any political topic on which I would require an explain from you. You need to read for comprehension. Your play-school political meanderings have nothing at all to do with my comments and how you interjected the relationship of Israel and Iran into my comment is for your worm-ridden brain alone to understand. Go chase your tail puppy.

[Gyrode]

lol! Have you actually followed this guy?

[Gyrode]

He is not a "Zionist," (if we mean on the level Likud in Israel or Alan Dershowitz etc.) and that is why i responded to you.

[vtcpdx]

Anyone who was not purged or still worked for the Pentagon during Bush's reign and believes, in the face of the immorality and valuelessness of our declining Western "civilization," considers the West "developed" and believes in the fairytale of 9/11, the War on Terror, and democracy at gun-point, is a Zionist or a Zionist shill, take your pick.

[Gyrode]

I see we can't even meet eye to eye on anything, but I will not give you the pleasure of returning your insults.

[mencken]

"on which I would require an explain from you"

The BS part is right- does the bubble gum machine you got your degree in allow you to write so badly you can barely be understood? I don't mean writing well, I just mean writing like English is your first language. "require an explain," Jesus Christ.

[vtcpdx]

Sorry I can't dignify your idiotic call for help with an answer. I do have some advice though. Picking arguments with your superiors never ends well. Instead of using the cowards last resort, shut up and learn something. It's hard to hide your stupidity when you resort to ad hominem attacks.

[mencken]

If you're such a superior, how come you've simply decided to disguise the fact you're running away like a little girl?

I also like your ending of the ad hominem with a plea not to use them- clearly your course in logic never took hold. Christ, you're like anti-thought.

[vtcpdx]

Maybe I am a little girl. I'm sure there are many who could you as the jackass that you are like I have. So why bring age or gender into this?

[mencken]

You really don't know how ridiculous you are, do you?

[vtcpdx]

So you found a type-o... good for you! You must play Where's Waldo quite a bit in your special ed classes.

[mencken]

Oh, I love working with the totally unself-conscious.

[profnasty]

I smell a zionist. The Middle East sells oil, US buys oil. That's as far as the relationship should go. The fly in the ointment is Israel. The Palestinians want Justice. This the Jews cannot provide. End of world.

[Gyrode]

Most of the oil coming out of the Gulf goes to Asia. You're way off if you "smell" something. "End of world?" As Barnett said it before, "we can sit on walls, we've done it before."

[DerekTweedy]

Dr. Barnett's TED(dot)com presentation is my favorite. Unique audience, time restraint and energy.

[rOaCh2000]

everybody can see this clear now. start ww3. win ww3. reshape the middle east into post ww2 japan

not going to work

[DanHasAMillion]

right now we're just trying to give them peace

[QuoVadius]

Mao trained at the Communist Training School in Paris, France with Ho Chi Mihn and Chang Kia Shek. Shek became a Christian and fell out of favour. The CIA/MI6 backed Mao. Siddney Rittenberg (a Jewish linguist outta American M.I) was Mao's handler for the CIA. Rittenberg (a traitor) is comfortably retired selling his memoirs from California.

Go figure.

[QuoVadius]

Barnett considers his friends on "Wall Street" the BEST suppliers of Intelligence. Far superior to the "puzzle factory" down at the CIA.

Who founded Wall Street? Who owns the City of London orivate banking system? Who has a "Star Of David" above their "Intelligence" logo? Who is attempting to rule the world?

Z-I-O-N-I-S-T J-E-W-S.

AKA: Judeo/Masonry.

[CherryStadt]

You know that The UAE owns about 25-30% of the London Stock exchange and China holds much of our bonds....it's not always about the jews you know. Much of the gulf oil goes to east asia.

[QuoVadius]

----You know that The UAE owns about 25-30% of the London Stock exchange----

Who owns the UAE? Who defined their borders early last century and WHO trains the Elites body gaurds?

----and China holds much of our bonds....----

Who owns China? Who pours 50 billion a month into China in direct foreign capital investment?

---it's not always about the jews you know. Much of the gulf oil goes to east asia.---

It's ALWAYS about ZIONIST Jews matey.

Hard though that may be to beleive.

[CherryStadt]

Who owns the UAE? Who defined their borders early last century and WHO trains the Elites body gaurds? The British.

Who owns China? Who pours 50 billion a month into China in direct foreign capital investment? Seriously...where.

nothing for my last comment.

My grandpa was an Arab Mason aligned with Fatah....go figure (snarkle snarkle).

[QuoVadius]

----Who owns the UAE? Who defined their borders early last century and WHO trains the Elites body gaurds? The British.----

Who owns the British? "Brit" means "Man" in Hebrew and "Ish" means "Covenant". Who owns and runs the City of London? Who has their star of david above the British MI6 logo? Who told Elizabeth the 1st she was part of the lost tribes and what ethnic pedigree was her first rate assassin "hufjuden" (oops, gave that one away).

[Gyrode]

Churchill....damnit.

[Gyrode]

I'd rather have an American imperliast system than an Islamist imperialist system. Nazi drummer boys? Are you kidding? The Islamists, dictators, and allies view the American influence as Imperialism...no shit, huh?

More Winston Churhill, less Neville Chamberlian is what the US has sparked in Iraq. For better or worse, the bang has happened.

[rOaCh2000]

winston churchill was an imperialists. dictators are all westerners. like saddam and musharaf. "islamist imperialist system" provide examples. you're not making sense.

has anyone informed you that you can't go to war in islam over money land or increasing one's fame?

[CherryStadt]

Like Osama Bin Laden and Muqtada Al-Sadr. One a Sunni imperialist and the other a Shia imperialist. You don't have to explain away Islam - I can use the Bible to justify the same things. Musharaf is a half hearted ally..since we are not as "war mongering" as people think the gov is.

[rOaCh2000]

the definition of imperialism is going to war for empire subjugating a people and making money off of the exploited.

[CherryStadt]

Barnett had a response for that...empire is what you must do...not what you can't do...and the US has never done foreign policy that way. So by your definition...Kurdistan and the Balkans were our empires...hmm. Still, I'd take Globalism over Islamism any day.

[CherryStadt]

I like Barnett because although he is a liberal globalist...he tells the truth. Like "The Chinese, Saudis, and Israeli's play us like a violin." ike any other interest group that lobbies in congress.

[rOaCh2000]

i'm not so sure about the chinese

[rOaCh2000]

look buddy this isn't going to work out not only to touch up on how evil the plan is. more war against muslims are going to cause many governments to be overthrown and a military support from china and russia. there's no possible way this is going to work. these people don't know anything about islam politics of the middle east islamic history or anything. this isn't the balkans this isn't east asia.

[gowman813]

Further to Chussodovsky, what would he like us to do, burn peat & ride bikes? Get with it bud, global society moves forward, and forward movements take huge amounts of energy. Dr. Barnett isn't advocating war, he's advocating winning the hearts and minds of the repressed governed by backward vantage directorates, which I might add is exactly what Chussodovsky is advocating, regression.

[TheMarlin]

Buy an island or a gun, Midex.

[Midex]

This guy is lying I'm sorry. If you don't agree with me see what you think of Michel Chussodovsky 2003 September lecture on video-google. Chussodovsky is is Professor of Economics at Ottawa University.

[gowman813]

Chussodovsky is a MAJOR conspiracy theorist spoon-feeding the Liberal bleeding hearted agenda to dimwhitted underachievers! Ask yourself this question; Where are we gonna get the fuel to power our expanding economy? And this guy is an Economist?

[Midex]

Have you read his articles and seen the lecture I cited?

Problem is that 'conspiracy theorist' is a non-sense criticism. When a crime is comitted by more than one person it is a conspiracy. FBI are conspiracy theorists by definition. You probably don't know your History. Our history is totally about imperialism. You would pretend that this doesn't exist today. One must be critical and cynical - that is the warning of your founding fathers.

[rOaCh2000]

it doesn't matter where. killing for oil and killing dominance is wrong. no matter how delicious an idea it sounds...it's wrong and i shouldn't have to tell you that

[CherryStadt]

That's fine,...but I understand that Islamists need to be held to that standard as well as the Free World...so insincere anti-war people can't use it as cannon fodder.

[rOaCh2000]

what islamist state has killed for oil and dominance?

[CherryStadt]

Actually, the great thing is that Bin Laden is in a cave somewhere. That's the issue I take with you, I understand how Bush looks like a hypocrite with nation building...but you think the US has some sort of inherent malice that takes precedent over everything else.

[rOaCh2000]

oh i guess jesus's teachings are liberal now

[Midex]

What most Americans havn't realised is that Imperialism DOESN"T INCLUDE THEM. In this system the masses are serfs, slaves. The billionaires, trillionaires - they are the only benefactors. There goal is to enslave the world in a one world 'government' = empire.

[MaximilianBeers9825]

Move to Communist Cuba or shut up!

[desspec]

Hahaha.. Are those the only two options?

[Midex]

I don't think you understand what you are saying MaximilianBeers9825. Your response is kneejerk trained and brained by your television from since you were a child. Remember friend that the Nazised germans didn't think that what they were doing was mistaken, just as you have yet to realise that your leaders are executing a policy of genocide. But I shan't argue with you. I would be undoing your identity and you stike me as one who will learn alot of painful regrets before the sun shines.

[rOaCh2000]

do you even know you're brainwashed?

[CherryStadt]

That's it, I am "brainwashed" because I understood why we went to war in Iraq? I didn't say I was happy at the way Bush was handling it.

[rOaCh2000]

you don't understand actually. condi rice said in 2001 before 9/11 that saddam was not a threat that the guy's military wasn't very usable and that it would be impossible for him to make nuclear weapons. cheney said in the 90's during the gulf war that invading iraq would create a quagmire.

[magickools]

you are most correct, Thomas p.m. barnett has a 3 hour video where he talks about taking over babylon and putting a new pentagon there. here is the new world order. when will the rest of the sheeple wake up?

[Midex]

Well I just keep trying to spread the word. Although sometimes it seems futile and depressing in the face of some of these unwitting nazi drummer boys, its the best chance we've had in history. History has never had the internet and the oligarchs are steaming ahead to censor it and shut it down with Web2. See Congress bills they've already tried to push through to control the net.

[Midex]

What he calls 'security success' is just hegemony, imperialism and the truth is that 99% of the world including Americans won't agree with that Policy. Its an oligarch's not a peoples' policy. This is why they invented terrorism. To give the peoples a reason for what they are doing that makes sense of it other than being imperialism.