You wouldn't have the muzzle rise problem with the KX3 if you had a proper stance and kept the buttstock in the center of your chest, rather than your shoulder. Try that and you'll see a significant drop in recoil and muzzle rise, and a noticeable increase in control and sight picture recovery, leading to more accurate and faster follow up shots. 5.56 mm doesn't need a muzzle brake, I leave those to weapons with larger caliber than 7.62.
@sidhepro you gotta understand the design philosophy of the pig. It was meant to change the direction of the concussive force away from friendlies especially in CQB situations where that brake will distract and endanger your fellow mates. The pig redirects that force forward to targets making it the more aggressive brake.
oooohhhh me like. What's it like shooting the KX3 on that barrel length? Is it just like shooting a 16" barrel? I like sbr's but having to wear double ear protection just isn't my thing.
@sheepcampwarrior Honestly, because the blast is more forward (obviously, but it doesn't slam the blast back towards the shooter as well) I end up only wearing plugs and no muffs. I can't get a good cheek weld with muffs and believe me, I'm FANATICAL about protecting my hearing!
Ultimately, we noticed that there was ALOT of barrel rise with the Pig, and not much else gained over the Troy Brake. Granted, if one wants suppression, get a suppressor (we run an ACC Cyclone-K on the 300 Whisper)
NFA approval for SBR's is a federal law, not state. Everyone has to pay the tax to own any rifle shorter than 16". The states can further restrict anything they want though, which sucks... which is why I have an AR pistol
NOT TRUE. Well, select fire is true, but shorties are available to pretty much anyone as long as your state doesn't prohibit them. You just need to do the BATFE paperwork.
Yeah here in California there isn't much of a barrel length dispute it's more of a detachable magazine dispute. I am buying a AR-15 soon but it's getting harder and harder. I plan on buying a 14 and a half inch barrel does the Noveske Pig work on that length?
@vanillakillaz if you want to get the 14.5 you have to have the ping permantly attached to the barrel making it longer than 16 inches. other wise it would be considered a sbr which is illegal in california.
I've stuck with the Troy brake since this video was taken, put the Noveske pig away for the eventual 7.5" build. That'll probably be this year's Christmas present to myself, build another shorty. LOL
Haven't shot anything on this other than the Noveske and the Troy, unfortunately.
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the confusion. Your hubby posted a link to your video at the m4carbine forum so I thought it was he who posted the video.
Keep up the good work.
When my paperwork comes in for the SBR, I'll probably stay with the regular flash hider. The Pig is kinda expensive.
Looks like the Noveske pushed her around more so than the Troy brake. I was considering getting a Noveske pig, but after seeing this video, I'm not so sure. What do you think of the recoil with the Pig?
Ha! LOL Actually, I'M the wife and yes, the Pig did allow the rifle to rise quite a bit more than the brake did. I'm holding onto the Pig for the eventual 7.5".
Final vote was for the Troy brake after shooting and watching the videos of the two.
I'd have to comment also that I haven't been out shooting (except for a few mags of .40) in at least two months, was bruised all to hell from DT in academy and since my rifle was in pieces to be SBR'ed, I haven't had a chance to play until now. Thanks!
The kx3 is not a muzzle brake. Its main purpose is to hide the flash and direct the muzzle blast foward away from the shooter. The muzzle brake might help recoil a bit but directs the sound to the sides and back toards the shooter making it unconfertable for other people as well as the shooter.
Still got the pig after all this time? If so, i will buy.
tyte90 4 days ago
Does it help with felt recoil at all? I'm thinking of installing this on my wife's future mosin nagant that may be chopped down the 16.25".
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
You wouldn't have the muzzle rise problem with the KX3 if you had a proper stance and kept the buttstock in the center of your chest, rather than your shoulder. Try that and you'll see a significant drop in recoil and muzzle rise, and a noticeable increase in control and sight picture recovery, leading to more accurate and faster follow up shots. 5.56 mm doesn't need a muzzle brake, I leave those to weapons with larger caliber than 7.62.
b2ector 5 months ago
go girl...
CREWDOG289 8 months ago
And you're an asshole...
sidhepro 10 months ago
You suck
bowtech5060 10 months ago
The good thing about an ar pistol is that when shit hits the fan, you just put a stock on it.
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 1 year ago
where can you buy one of these?
TKDgeehun 1 year ago
sssoooo...which one did u go with?? I just put a kx3 on my Noveske 10.5" barrel, I love it, it's great for cqb operations.
stangr07 1 year ago
@stangr07 Note the ETA up top. I went with the Troy. The Pig had WAAAAAY too much muzzle rise compared to the Troy.
sidhepro 1 year ago
@sidhepro you gotta understand the design philosophy of the pig. It was meant to change the direction of the concussive force away from friendlies especially in CQB situations where that brake will distract and endanger your fellow mates. The pig redirects that force forward to targets making it the more aggressive brake.
mizu345 11 months ago
@stangr07 You have many terrorists you need to shoot at in CQB?
zollen123 1 year ago
The KX3 really does work wonders. You can notice the sound difference when shooting immediately. Buy NOVESKE anything and will not be disappointed.
greenlanderwanted 1 year ago
oooohhhh me like. What's it like shooting the KX3 on that barrel length? Is it just like shooting a 16" barrel? I like sbr's but having to wear double ear protection just isn't my thing.
sheepcampwarrior 1 year ago
@sheepcampwarrior Honestly, because the blast is more forward (obviously, but it doesn't slam the blast back towards the shooter as well) I end up only wearing plugs and no muffs. I can't get a good cheek weld with muffs and believe me, I'm FANATICAL about protecting my hearing!
Ultimately, we noticed that there was ALOT of barrel rise with the Pig, and not much else gained over the Troy Brake. Granted, if one wants suppression, get a suppressor (we run an ACC Cyclone-K on the 300 Whisper)
sidhepro 1 year ago
@sidhepro thanks for the reply.
sheepcampwarrior 1 year ago
what length barrel and handguard please?
deck328 2 years ago
10.5" Noveske Barrel.
9.0 LaRue Handguard
sidhepro 2 years ago
NFA approval for SBR's is a federal law, not state. Everyone has to pay the tax to own any rifle shorter than 16". The states can further restrict anything they want though, which sucks... which is why I have an AR pistol
Keith02 2 years ago 3
She is a Good shoter!
jackmax1991 3 years ago 2
NOT TRUE. Well, select fire is true, but shorties are available to pretty much anyone as long as your state doesn't prohibit them. You just need to do the BATFE paperwork.
sidhepro 3 years ago
Yeah here in California there isn't much of a barrel length dispute it's more of a detachable magazine dispute. I am buying a AR-15 soon but it's getting harder and harder. I plan on buying a 14 and a half inch barrel does the Noveske Pig work on that length?
vanillakillaz 3 years ago
Yes!
sidhepro 3 years ago
@vanillakillaz if you want to get the 14.5 you have to have the ping permantly attached to the barrel making it longer than 16 inches. other wise it would be considered a sbr which is illegal in california.
generalpetres 1 year ago
Get a suppressor. :P
The Troy looks like a great brake. How does it compare to the A2 flash suppressor? Or others that you've fired?
Houtaku 3 years ago
Don't want a suppressor, though my husband does.
I've stuck with the Troy brake since this video was taken, put the Noveske pig away for the eventual 7.5" build. That'll probably be this year's Christmas present to myself, build another shorty. LOL
Haven't shot anything on this other than the Noveske and the Troy, unfortunately.
sidhepro 3 years ago
Mrs. sidhepro:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the confusion. Your hubby posted a link to your video at the m4carbine forum so I thought it was he who posted the video.
Keep up the good work.
When my paperwork comes in for the SBR, I'll probably stay with the regular flash hider. The Pig is kinda expensive.
guitrich 4 years ago
Looks like the Noveske pushed her around more so than the Troy brake. I was considering getting a Noveske pig, but after seeing this video, I'm not so sure. What do you think of the recoil with the Pig?
Your wife did good.
guitrich 4 years ago
Ha! LOL Actually, I'M the wife and yes, the Pig did allow the rifle to rise quite a bit more than the brake did. I'm holding onto the Pig for the eventual 7.5".
Final vote was for the Troy brake after shooting and watching the videos of the two.
I'd have to comment also that I haven't been out shooting (except for a few mags of .40) in at least two months, was bruised all to hell from DT in academy and since my rifle was in pieces to be SBR'ed, I haven't had a chance to play until now. Thanks!
sidhepro 4 years ago
The kx3 is not a muzzle brake. Its main purpose is to hide the flash and direct the muzzle blast foward away from the shooter. The muzzle brake might help recoil a bit but directs the sound to the sides and back toards the shooter making it unconfertable for other people as well as the shooter.
needahonda 4 years ago 5