Listen for everyone making negative comment, let's slow down...Shaolin Kempo Karate is a name, it originally came from Kajukenbo-then to Karazenpo Go Shinjutsu. Shaolin Kempo came from the Victor Gascon, George Pesare, and Nick Cerio lineage with a heavy influence from Walter Godin; The above mentioned men were feared and respected in the Martial Arts from 1957 to now. Anyone who knows about these men, know that, they were pioneers. Please try not to disrespect this art.
Anyone can look awesome if their demo dolls stand outside of their own attacking range and come forward with a slow, linear technique one at a time. I hope for your sake that you practice these techniques in a more 'alive' fashion..
eg
start from far away as _beginners_ like in the demo
gradually get closer as the technique solidifies
increase the speed and efficiency of the attacks and counters
get used to progressively higher levels of contact
kinda looks like he spent a few months to a year each in judo,krav maga, tae kwon do and kung fu and tried to blend them all together and came out with a system that kind of works but not really. hmm. maybe if it were developed and focused on details?
I live in an area with several Villari schools within driving distance. I decided to find out for myself about Villaris, so I visited 4 of these schools, all owned by different people. I found the instructors to be personable, knowledgeable and dedicated. I observed classes and talked to students and parents. The vast majority were very happy with Villaris. I watched belt tests. The students definitly earned their rank. Schools were clean and professional. Other places not so much.
I live in an area with several Villari schools within driving distance. I decided to find out for myself about Villaris, so I visited 4 of these schools, all owned by different people. I found the instructors to be personable, knowledgeable and dedicated. I observed classes and talked to students and parents. The vast majority were very happy with Villaris. I watched belt tests. The students definitly earned their rank. Schools were clean and professional. Other places not so much.
world record for fastest strikes is held by Rob Ardito with 13.5 strikes per secound recorded by guiness in april 09 he broke the old world record by .5 strikes per secound. his punches were about 50mph.
no one in the guinness book of records beat 13 punches for secound they even mention bruce lee on their website saying old bruce did about 10 strikes per sec. i dont think the information u got about villari is correct Ninjagirl are you sure its 18 strikes in a sec.
I took lessons many years ago at one of Freds studios. Made it to blue belt then left. The man is good at what he does, but he is a legend in his owh mind. There is no substanciated records of his achievements anywhere. Look up Dr Dan Meadows at Tap3x or Triple Tap LLC, that guy can kick your ass 1000 different ways. I learned more with him in 6 months than I did in 3 years with Villari.
i Challenge the villari lovers to post a proof of his world records and by proof i mean an actual legit record archive not a villari website. Show me this and I will eat my own words and apologize.
LOL that was a self proclaimed world record one of many by a self proclaimed master there is legit record archive that keeps his word records. though i have a world record myself im the worlds greatest dad i have a mug and a tee shirt to prove it.
i was looking into him cuz i wanted to go to one of his dojos. i found on a website that he broke a world record of 18 strikes in 1 sec. but i searched Guinness World Records ,world records academy and the IAAF, none of them have a villari listed as a record holder and i searched back to the 1950s. Why would someone lie about a world record . its ok i do TKD now im an purple belt and i love it.
The reason a person would lie about a world record, is the same reason why they would claim to be a "Grandmaster" in a made up style, because it sounds good. Kids want to learn how to defend themselves and parents look in the yellow pages or online and see these dubious credentials and think it sounds great. Lying about your rank and accomplishments is something that unfortunately, too many people do. It helps bring in business.
When someone bashes Fred Villari, take a look of who his sources were.
Adriano Emperado, Sonny Gascon, Walter Goudin, George Pesare, Nick Cerio..right down to Fred Villari. No one would want ot mess them. SKK and Kajukenbo are related systems. I have learned both systems and know the history and lineage. Lets not bash other arts please, any legit Martial artist does not bash other arts.
I grew up in Framingham, MA where Villari made his name He was a 2nd degree if I remember, he was legit he had exceptional skill but He proclaimed himself Grandmaster after a few years of teaching out of his school. I remember the ad in the paper he was trying to hire black and brown belts of other systems to work and teach his studio of self defenses system. He was going around telling people that he spent 2 years with a master over seas but no one remembers him leaving.
no but ive seen him with his students and i have spent a lot of time cross training with Craig Seavey back in the 70s Seavey was villaris head instructor back then.
As time went on villari became more and more cheesy. I have met a few of his masters and some are legit masters and are great teachers while others have no place in the art, but every system is like this. Villari is more hype and flash then grand and he brings on all the hate himself by marketing the Art like a cheap fast food restaurant. All and all he his a self proclaimed Grand Masters and gets no respect from many true masters. Many of his own have left him.
@SuperRob1953 I met Vilari once and he seemed like a nice guy but a big ego and lots of pride. Some of his bullshit techniques and card board moves would not work on the street. When I met him it was like meeting some bullshit guru who spouts claptrap philosophy...I thought it was ridiculous. No, I cannot follow Vilari's system. No thanks.
Actually I have heard this story before and seen documentation concerning it. Fred Villari was documented by another breakoff SKK teacher as having learned from Chinese teachers in the Caribbean Islands. Presently, I do long distance learning with Nick Cerio schools. I feel Fred Villari has done a lot for MA, but some ppl have opinions about him.
I kinda have to agree with superrob in the fact about how villari brings hate on himself. he is a grandmaster of a system and he is how the world views SKK. Wearing flashy gis and DVD black belt grading make him suspect to other arts. but i doubt he even cares about what people think. All and all i met great martial artist and Sucky ones. its not a system that is bad or good its the Artist.
I agree, as controversial as my next statement will be: I believe that systems shoudl evolve. If a technique does not work for you, it is best to modify or change it so that it will. Flashy GIs definitely are something that will be criticized by many..
Also no offensene to any one personally. i was just reading the comments and i thought i would do some research of my own i bump into a villaris school here and there durring my time as a soldier in the army the school itself seemed legit and the instructors where knowlegable "Villari's of Louisville" Meet them at rhe rising star national.
Me comments are based of my research and personal opinion.
I did research and there is no point in bashing one and other I personal dont doubt villaris abilities all im saying is i dont think is past is legit. thats all. I cant prove that it is or that it is not the not it just dont seem right to me. sorry for all the frustration.
Did u just hear yourself, you just said that FV learned 82 more combos, now shotokan karate(which is never mentioned in his interview) Shaolin Kung-fu? it says shaolin kempo karate in your last statement and but ok. and then he learned all of these animals and mastered them also in that 2yrs period along with Chin Na! Brother just admit it, he is a farse. Your not making a believer outta me, i wont be brainwashed as easy as the general public i guess. u never defended this video, why is that?
the fact that he now has 108 combos and he only learned 26 from cerio means he is a fraud. if it took him 2 years to learn and master 26combos how in the world did he learn and master another 82combos in just 2 more years. also FV went from 2nd degree to master in just another 2yrs and opened his first dojo...yeah ok then. I don't know anyone on the planet that can fly through the ranks that fast legit. Sorry, Let the truth shine forth and the lies be shown.
The 108 contain the principles of fighting technique from not only Kempo (26) but also Western Boxing, Shotokan Karate and Shaolin Kung Fu including the animal fighting styles of the Tiger, Leopard, Crane, Snake and Dragon as well as siezing and locking techniques of Chin Na. The style is his creation in combining what he saw as the best form the various styles from around the world. His martial skill and knowledge is known and respected by Masters around the globe. That is the truth.
I did a demonstration of Shaolin Kempo Karate in upstate New York, my group received standing ovations. We were there among Shotokan and TKD clubs, our club outshined them hands down.
The Capital Region of New York. I have taught SKK for a while, I blend in other arts that I have learned. Northern Shaolin Kung Fu and other Kenpo systems...I enjoy teaching therefore I will always be a student as well...
@zeeboo56 I run a Shotokan school. That is an insult to say he has any shotokan knowledge. Anyone who post a testing system on DVD is a money hungry moron.
Superman, after he left Nick Cerio, he still trained with him. Shaolin Kempo Karate is another name for Karazenpo Go Shinjitsu a derivation of Walter Goudin's expression of Kajukenbo. I do not know Fred Villari personally so I cannot comment on him. I train in Karazenpo (and) Nick Cerios kenpo as well as Kajukenbo. truthfully, these three arts are effective. It is more about the person than the style used. as for Goju, I am a big fan.
I have read article you guys wear talking about and seeing this video just makes me think that villari is a bunch of hot garbage. I have studied goju ryu for 35 years and I know a farce when I see one!!!! name of this video Villari Cuts Wind
For a guy with 35 years of martial arts experience you seem jump to your conclusions rather quickly. You're also quick to insult which makes me doubt your claim. His organization has survived and thrived for over 40 years and if you still have any doubt come and attend his clinic this Nov. 13th in Sturbridge, MA. I'll be happy to introduce you.
Im sure your no better then hot garbage yourself for being fished in by this grand master scam artist. When I was 18 we knew villari as the father of the mcdojos. No wander 90% of his masters are overweight out of shape instructors that throw belt stripes around like candy and sell their secret system for 149.99 dollars via video tape. Hmmmm sounds like the real deal to me. Shaolin Kempo yeah right what a load
Well Super Rob :), since you have held this opinion for 35 years, I doubt there is anything that would change your mind. So why don't you Gojo play with yourself.
@iayg1 I am a BJJ Blue Belt...almost purple....it is legit and 100x more effective than this ...stuff.... and I used to be a student in the Fred Villari franchise. I now have also obtained a blackbelt in Aikido, Red in Muay Thai, Blue in BJJ, and am studying under a well respected sifu in the Wong lineage of JKD.
Maybe your teachers are not over weight but, a vast majority of the villari instructors today are well to say the least they have extra combat padding. Obesity is a sign of unhealthy living and is a major crisis here in America. For instructors to preach an art that promotes a healthy body and a strong mind a lot of the martial art chains are falling very short of practicing what they preach.
@SuperRob1953 also just becuase fred may not be legit does not mean your instructors are bad. dojos in ever system have great masters and also then ones that seem to have got their rank out of a craker jack box. i dont hate any martial artist its just that ive been around villari for many years and i knew him before he made himself master by his hand. i just wish he would tell the truth for once
@SuperRob1953 also just becuase fred may not be legit does not mean your instructors are bad. dojos in ever system have great masters and also then ones that seem to have got their rank out of a craker jack box. i dont hate any martial artist its just that ive been around villari for many years and i knew him before he made himself master by his own hand. i just wish he would tell the truth for once
@SuperRob1953 I go to a Villari dojo myself, and it isnt "hot garbage". We learn very effective techniques. At my dojo, my master doesn't believe in junior blackbelts; we have to work for our rank. Also, before you toss around insults of all instructors being fat, i thought i will let you know my master is over-weight, but that is because he suffered from colon cancer. In relation to daboodeef179, we learn about self discipline, self control, and respect. You have none of these qualities.
I have read article you guys wear talking about and seeing this video just makes me think that villari is a bunch of hot garbage. I have studied goju ryu for 35 years and I know a farce when I see one!!!
Also in the course 4 years he trained to years he spent 2 in Polynesia with Chinese masters with vague Korean names and was promoted from 2nd dan to 5th dan. And he had 35 dojo open up in his system and personally trained all the instructors. These are his words
Not to mention he proclaims himself a 10th dan grand master at the age of 30 in 1975 again his own words.
Im not the best martial artist nor am I a master ive been training 16 years in Bujutsu but I really study facts
It was FVs father that encouraged his interest in learning to fight. He initially taught him to box and later arranged lessons in wrestling. Working on the docks of Rhode Island, Fred's father became acquainted with a Chinaman who practiced Chinese Boxing. It was this man that first introduced FV to the world of Shaolin.
The 1975 article was written by Massad Ayoob, founder of the Lethal Force Institute and renowned firearms and self defense instructor. In this article Mr. Ayoob acknowledges Villari's expertise with the knife. Although the popularity of Ninjutsu would come later, the use of suriken was already well known to the general public through the TV series "Kung Fu" and old news to experts of the blade.
Ok I did intensive research on fred villari Nick cerio has claimed to started vilarris training in 1967 in 1971 FV opened his first school as a 2nd degree black belt if you take a look at both nick cerios Kempo and FV kempo they are just about mirror images of each other. But what really makes me think he is a fraud is the 1975 apirl issue of black belt mag.
While it is true that FV learned Kenpo from Cerio, it is only one piece of of his Shaolin Kempo Karate and although there are similarities between these two schools in the early ranks, the difference becomes clear as you progress. The Forms diverge and there are 108 numbered Combinations in the Villari system compared to Cerios original 26. I suggest you continue your "intensive research" before you throw around words like fraud.
The level of debate in this thread says a lot about Villari students! If you want to see strength and power, watch a vid. of Mas Oyama fighting. He doesn't wear a fancy costume, though - or do staged demonstrations. If you want to ger perforated, try one of these 'knife defences' on somebody who's really trying to hurt you.
Though I'm learning Villari's system, I can't say I like the guy. No, I don't know him personally, but the fact that he sells SKK on tapes for outrageous prices makes me mad. That's something you go to a dojo for anyways. It seems to me that he's only in it for the money. I almost feel ashamed for learning a system made by him.
KEYWORD: ALMOST
If it weren't so goddamn awesome then yes, I would feel ashamed.
I was so lucky to be able to meet this amazing man in person at Sturbridge, when I was a green belt. The energy just rolls off of him. I don't know about the issues that people have with him, but I'm very grateful to have been able to learn to defend myself.
You saw that too KM205, this guy is a joke, and so are his people for allowing him to think he is so good. I've never seen a Grandmaster with so many uniforms, he's hung up on himself, what an ego. The dude who got kicked in the wirst was like, "awe crap I'm suppose to go down now, grandmaster used his class 2 wizard skills on me!"
Man, shutup, sure he may be cocky, but Villari's system is surprisingly effective.
You don't even know. This guy is one of the deadliest men on the planet. Why do you think Villari's is the most popular and joined dojo in all of northern america?
It's cool, tell me to shut up, say what you want, but it won't change the fact that this mans is sloppy at best, or at least the way he currently performs it. As for you, protect him all you want. One of the deadliest men on the planet..?.. Okay, keep deifying him, might as well call him O'Sensei, like the Aiki Call Ueshiba. I tell you what, if you're not to busy, maybe you could buy, no... make Villari a new uniform. I'm sure he's already worn out his last one hundred with all his stripes.
it is the most popular. are you forgetting about United Studios of Self Defense, by any chance? WE are the most popular and fred villari WISHES he was us.
and might i add, we are the ONLY dojo recognized by the Shaolin Temple in China. do your homework dude. kenpoj81 is right.. get off his nutsack already.
Funny, where are your schools on the East Cost? Fred Villari is very popular there, and you guys have 2 schools on the whole coast. I checked out your website...a school that says "coming soon" next to it doesn't count. Listen, USSDvegas, you should be THANKFUL to Fred Villari. He is the reason your chain exists. Your organization broke off from Fred Villari.Check your sources and learn your history. I learned it and I have nothing to do with either school.
yes, our system isnt flashy like Tae Kwon Do. however, it is incredibly practical and effective. we arent recognized by the Shaolin Temple for no reason.
actually, maybe you should do some more research on that, because Grandmaster Villari did study Shaolin Kempo from several monks, and I have never even heard of United Studios of Self Defense!
yeah, if you faced him, I bet that you would freeze up from fear, and regret that you had said that, because you don't know anything about Shaolin Kempo!
another villari groupie. thats cute. well heres a word of advice. dont tell somebody who has been studying for 6 years and teaching for 3 that they do not know anything about Shaolin Ch'uan Fa. oh and if you have never heard USSD, crawl out from the cave you live in. you're full of shit. and yes, we did break off from villari. but thats cuz he's a douche bag. so whatever problem you have, you can fuck yourself with it. have a good day.
well, you know what, I'm not even going to say anything back to your comment, because on this page, you have broken ALL of the six school rules! that's right!
1. Respect
2.Effort
3. Ettiqute
4.Sincerity
5.Character
6.Self-Control
and also, I'm pretty sure that Martial Arts schools are NOT in compettition with each other.
It depends, seems like a lot of kempo schools at least are for profit as opposed to non profit ventures. So If half the people in a town are Villari black belts trying to make a living off kenpo then they are certainly in competition with each other. A town can only support so many for profit kempo schools.
To offbroadway2707, kungfupanda2u, and ninja98764532, I would like to apologize on behalf of ussdvegas. Please know that not all ussd students behave in this manner and do follow the, (we normally use the 5 but respect is a given), 5 principles. ussdvegas please be more mature and responsible when you try to represent us. This behavior only further perpetuates the negativity that we receive from time to time. Something to think about.
Then to you I would like to apologize on behalf of those 3, for replying as assholes rather than just keeping their mouths shut. It was a pointless argument to begin with.
why are you guys even apologizing for an argument that 1. none of you that are apologizing were involved in and 2. seems to have dissolved itself 3 months prior to the first apology? I say, just let sleeping dogs lie...
That argument was on this page before you came here.
Your a hypocrite, your the one who took his time replying to something that happened a month ago. You would have been better off keeping your mouth shut.
i wasn't insulting you. don't apologize for other people though. if they wanted to apologize, they probably would have done it. "look twice, listen twice before you speak once."
yea, its unfortunate that he has to put his stuff on youtube just so that it can be heard about. our masters are talked about through out our company as well as other ones, youtube would be like sinking to a lower level if they had to put stuff up just so that our name could be put out there.
Hey, I've seen Master Black and Master Paul Taylor on Youtube...can't say I'm disappointed, but can't say I'm impressed either. I just think if there's going to be badmouthing, it shouldn't occur. We are all martial artists. I've looked at one of your company's websites...don't you have 5 principle rules? Where's your ettiquette? Must have flown out the window...respect and good manners. Try and have some.
musashi71, you are 71 and bickering with kids on the internet? I use the term kids in relation to your age. You sound like another Ashida Kim esque self proclaimed master.
i never said what rank i was or proclaimed anything. how old do you have to be to know the truth? btw who the fuck are you? im not bickering im debating some of these techniques!
musashi, you seem like you're just troll. obviously people have learned from Fred Villari a lot of valuable skills. My take on SKK is that it's kind of like college. It helps teach you what you gravitate towards the most. I don't train in SKK, have taken quickly to FMA, BJJ, MT (MMA in general), a style of Kung Fu that you wouldn't be able to ever study because it's closed door training, and Chen Taij. I study with great Masters of their arts, but will not ever speak ill of SKK. let it go.
Villari is obviously a successful entrepreneur, but not necessarily a martial artist of any integrity. He initially received his black belt from Nick Cerio, who pretty much pioneered the teaching of Kenpo in the northeast. Villari later essentially promoted himself to 10th degree and awarded himself the "Grandmaster" title...makes good business sense, I suppose(he opened hundreds of schools),but it also causes you to lose the respect of the greater martial arts community .
It is true that FV learned Kenpo from Cerio, but that is just a portion of what he included to create his system. SKK also includes concepts from Shotokan and Chinese Boxing to form one the worlds first Mixed Martial Arts Systems. As it's founder, FV has clearly earned his designation as Grand Master. Some my take issue with FV for their own reasons but even his most ardent critics, competitors and peers respect his unique Martial skill even to this day.
who? even musashi had mixed martial arts back in the day, every style ive ever trained in has ground fighting, kicking, and punchingand joint locks. except maybe the tkd you learn in the states.
not a real answer to my question, you are a fool if you think musashi and fred are parallel. musashi's kill you art v's freds sport. how many death matches has fred been in? what arts have you studied? my guess is skk and thats it (you don't know any better)oh ya tell me some of the parallels, i know you wont though cuz you don't know shit
Like Miyamoto Musashi, Fred Villari tested his skills in reality. His street fights and challenges as a young man are legendary. Like Musashi he is known for his prodigious skill, cunning and ruthlessness. Fred Villari earned the respect of anyone who ever dared face him. If you really want to learn more about the person you so ignorantly maline, find and read Massad Ayoub's (a well respected martial artist himself) article in the july 1975 Black Belt Magazine.
When it comes to training against a knife attack I personally use the most stress inducing method I can find. The Shocknife (which I own and have a safety monitor certification in), in conjunction with an ever change environment and a variety of scenarios, is the most realistic manner of training I can find. It's the same system used by various gov. agencies and the reality based self-defense instructor Jim Wagner. The majority of my knife defenses are from Villari's high ranking masters.
It has been my experience that the knife defenses taught by GM Villari and his high ranking masters teach valuable concepts. In my "reality" training I have never used an entire technique that I've been shown, however I have used the concepts that these techniques have taught successfully. I am unwilling to perform these against a live blade (accidents can happen) but am very confident that I could survive a knife attack.
Musashi71, I'm sure you are confident in your martial arts knowledge, however zeeboo56 has been training since you were probably in preschool and since before I was born. His knowledge of the arts is probably greater than ours combined. I think you should show him the respect he deserves. With that said he also doesn't need me to defend him.
I will attempt to refrain from posting on this video again because the whole thing is just silly and has gotten out of control.
im 71 and have studied my family style from about 4 years old till now! when i came to the u.s.a. i joined a villari school and moved up fast, but saw other people getting black belts that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag ( i was 58 then )who are zeeboo56's masters? why do i owe them respect or him?
i see comments saying you can own your own dojo from this guy. but that sounds like a mic dojo to me kinda like karate for kids arent you just buying the Name????
no, whats YOUR problem. musashi knows a LOT more than you. maybe you should actually look at what fred is doing in his knife video, because it is REALLY ineffective!!
Based on that logic, you obviously have tried it in an actual assault and now that your dead, have come to the conclusion that the technique doesn't work? Come on, even something as simple and effective as a front kick can't be applied successfully by everybody every time. Keep trying, it works.
it will never work, if the guy has any skill your dead, hence its a bad technique, end of story. im glad at least one person see's the light! thank you pinkboy86.
Actually I've never met a student/ex-student of Villari's. I'm actually an ex-student of Mattera because his system is full of thugs. Master Richard Black for instance. I was told one of my masters (Master Black) has actually ran someone over on purpose. Wouldn't have believe it if it didn't come from my chief instructors mouth. Now I'm with Lohan School, who charges 60-80 bucks a month and teaches tanglangquan, tai chi, and several other martial arts and has 2-hour classes.
Thanks Ponater for not getting all offended and lashing out at me the way 'master' did, so I'll be respectful and honest here. No I've never been apart of Villari's, but if you reread my comments, i never said anything about Villari's martial arts skill, and I believe he has his rank for a reason, but mastersjh brought it up. I meant I am sick of the large amount of money hungry instructors out there...
Thank you for the respectful response. Good luck in your training. If you enjoy it and you are learning what you feel is valuable information then imo it doesn't matter if it cost $25 or $500. Personally I wish I could get $500 dollars to teach a private. Who doesn't want to make a buck?
Oh what? I'm ignorant because I'm 17? Then why do so many people agree with me? Like I said I'm still a born martial artist, I know what I'm talking about. Piv won't even reply to me because he knows I got him about Villari charging to much, being greedy, and not having control enough to not injure his students. I want an intelligent reply this time instead of "Ah, yes. Of course. Thank you. Your last sentence explains a lot."
Have you ever been apart of the Villari organization? My guess is no. Where did you get your information on GM Villari? Most people that comment received their information from former/ disgruntled students or instructors. Every system, organization, and business has that.The purpose of these videos is to show the skill and knowledge GM Villari possesses (which doesn't come across in these videos)not so people can bash his business practices.
Okay so from checking back heres the oh-so convincing information I've collected.
Apparently, according to Piv, you pay more than 500 bucks for an entire session meaning one whole session? XD greedy. And Villari gave one of his own guys a concussion while showing techniques? Dumbass needs to work on his control then. However, it was quite insulting that Piv said I don't get martial arts. I'm only 17, but I am still a born martial artist.
If someone wanted to pay you $500 per month for lessons would you turn them down? I wouldn't. I personal hand over 250 bucks when ever I want a (that's one) lesson. Why? Because I feel the experience and information is worth it.
Maybe mastersjh has had concussions in the past making him more susceptible to them now. GM Villari does have amazing control as well as power, more than most of us can wish to have. It must be really tough to not slip a little extra juice into a strike on accident.
I am one of the people in this video. I suffered a slight cuncussion as a result. It is not fake. Email me if you want the details of how the video was shot. I have trained in the Villari system for twenty years. Pivperson is quite correct. If you think Mr. Villari is sloppy or a joke, you really need to do some research.
i was a 2nd dan in the villari style! till i found out its all about the money. now im a 2nd dan in another style plus training in two others. how many other styles have you trained in? did fred ever pay off his law suit?
Listen for everyone making negative comment, let's slow down...Shaolin Kempo Karate is a name, it originally came from Kajukenbo-then to Karazenpo Go Shinjutsu. Shaolin Kempo came from the Victor Gascon, George Pesare, and Nick Cerio lineage with a heavy influence from Walter Godin; The above mentioned men were feared and respected in the Martial Arts from 1957 to now. Anyone who knows about these men, know that, they were pioneers. Please try not to disrespect this art.
purplemantis 5 months ago
Grandmaster Villari and a few others taught my father who taught me! My dad used to instruct classes in the Dover NH Dojo
NWOpartycrasher 6 months ago
@NWOpartycrasher Did your father instruct classes in the year 1979. I was a German student visiting the Dojo. If not, who else was the teacher?
TheRunningEd 1 month ago
Is that Ron Jeremy ?
Keefsstuff 8 months ago 3
To the cyber warriors that bash Fred Villari:
1)- If you practiced for 35 years, then you would have the discipline and respect to just move on. (which you obviously don't have)
2)- i have actually used this Karate and it works, so you can shove that hot garbage up your ass.
daboodeef179 9 months ago 4
@daboodeef179 I wasnt meaning to bash you, i was referencing your references to the school rules. I meant to insult SuperRob1953.
LucasRidesBikes 6 months ago
at 0:07 thats one of the masters from my studio
SilentSerpant18 1 year ago
Anyone can look awesome if their demo dolls stand outside of their own attacking range and come forward with a slow, linear technique one at a time. I hope for your sake that you practice these techniques in a more 'alive' fashion..
eg
start from far away as _beginners_ like in the demo
gradually get closer as the technique solidifies
increase the speed and efficiency of the attacks and counters
get used to progressively higher levels of contact
get used to adapting if first counter fails
antant06 1 year ago
that dude look straight up like Ron Jeremy.
alumynabjj 1 year ago
kinda looks like he spent a few months to a year each in judo,krav maga, tae kwon do and kung fu and tried to blend them all together and came out with a system that kind of works but not really. hmm. maybe if it were developed and focused on details?
lucubration808 1 year ago
I have a 1st degree black belt from his school in kentucky. now im teaching it to my son. lots of respect for him and joan richert.
neils68 1 year ago
I live in an area with several Villari schools within driving distance. I decided to find out for myself about Villaris, so I visited 4 of these schools, all owned by different people. I found the instructors to be personable, knowledgeable and dedicated. I observed classes and talked to students and parents. The vast majority were very happy with Villaris. I watched belt tests. The students definitly earned their rank. Schools were clean and professional. Other places not so much.
Altair5467 1 year ago
I live in an area with several Villari schools within driving distance. I decided to find out for myself about Villaris, so I visited 4 of these schools, all owned by different people. I found the instructors to be personable, knowledgeable and dedicated. I observed classes and talked to students and parents. The vast majority were very happy with Villaris. I watched belt tests. The students definitly earned their rank. Schools were clean and professional. Other places not so much.
Altair5467 1 year ago
0:10 that's master David Boise, great man.
ObituaryViewer 1 year ago
world record for fastest strikes is held by Rob Ardito with 13.5 strikes per secound recorded by guiness in april 09 he broke the old world record by .5 strikes per secound. his punches were about 50mph.
no one in the guinness book of records beat 13 punches for secound they even mention bruce lee on their website saying old bruce did about 10 strikes per sec. i dont think the information u got about villari is correct Ninjagirl are you sure its 18 strikes in a sec.
ryukaibu 1 year ago
ive heard of that guy. he is a kobudo master right.
ryukaibu 1 year ago
I took lessons many years ago at one of Freds studios. Made it to blue belt then left. The man is good at what he does, but he is a legend in his owh mind. There is no substanciated records of his achievements anywhere. Look up Dr Dan Meadows at Tap3x or Triple Tap LLC, that guy can kick your ass 1000 different ways. I learned more with him in 6 months than I did in 3 years with Villari.
basspro1972 1 year ago 2
i Challenge the villari lovers to post a proof of his world records and by proof i mean an actual legit record archive not a villari website. Show me this and I will eat my own words and apologize.
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 4
LOL that was a self proclaimed world record one of many by a self proclaimed master there is legit record archive that keeps his word records. though i have a world record myself im the worlds greatest dad i have a mug and a tee shirt to prove it.
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 4
i was looking into him cuz i wanted to go to one of his dojos. i found on a website that he broke a world record of 18 strikes in 1 sec. but i searched Guinness World Records ,world records academy and the IAAF, none of them have a villari listed as a record holder and i searched back to the 1950s. Why would someone lie about a world record . its ok i do TKD now im an purple belt and i love it.
Ninjagrl85 2 years ago 4
The reason a person would lie about a world record, is the same reason why they would claim to be a "Grandmaster" in a made up style, because it sounds good. Kids want to learn how to defend themselves and parents look in the yellow pages or online and see these dubious credentials and think it sounds great. Lying about your rank and accomplishments is something that unfortunately, too many people do. It helps bring in business.
bzman114 2 years ago
When someone bashes Fred Villari, take a look of who his sources were.
Adriano Emperado, Sonny Gascon, Walter Goudin, George Pesare, Nick Cerio..right down to Fred Villari. No one would want ot mess them. SKK and Kajukenbo are related systems. I have learned both systems and know the history and lineage. Lets not bash other arts please, any legit Martial artist does not bash other arts.
kempoxyz 2 years ago
Right on!
232323C 2 years ago
I grew up in Framingham, MA where Villari made his name He was a 2nd degree if I remember, he was legit he had exceptional skill but He proclaimed himself Grandmaster after a few years of teaching out of his school. I remember the ad in the paper he was trying to hire black and brown belts of other systems to work and teach his studio of self defenses system. He was going around telling people that he spent 2 years with a master over seas but no one remembers him leaving.
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 2
Did you Train with villari or somthing?
ryukaibu 2 years ago
no but ive seen him with his students and i have spent a lot of time cross training with Craig Seavey back in the 70s Seavey was villaris head instructor back then.
SuperRob1953 2 years ago
As time went on villari became more and more cheesy. I have met a few of his masters and some are legit masters and are great teachers while others have no place in the art, but every system is like this. Villari is more hype and flash then grand and he brings on all the hate himself by marketing the Art like a cheap fast food restaurant. All and all he his a self proclaimed Grand Masters and gets no respect from many true masters. Many of his own have left him.
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 5
@SuperRob1953 I met Vilari once and he seemed like a nice guy but a big ego and lots of pride. Some of his bullshit techniques and card board moves would not work on the street. When I met him it was like meeting some bullshit guru who spouts claptrap philosophy...I thought it was ridiculous. No, I cannot follow Vilari's system. No thanks.
BTC141 2 years ago 4
Actually I have heard this story before and seen documentation concerning it. Fred Villari was documented by another breakoff SKK teacher as having learned from Chinese teachers in the Caribbean Islands. Presently, I do long distance learning with Nick Cerio schools. I feel Fred Villari has done a lot for MA, but some ppl have opinions about him.
kempoxyz 2 years ago
I kinda have to agree with superrob in the fact about how villari brings hate on himself. he is a grandmaster of a system and he is how the world views SKK. Wearing flashy gis and DVD black belt grading make him suspect to other arts. but i doubt he even cares about what people think. All and all i met great martial artist and Sucky ones. its not a system that is bad or good its the Artist.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
I agree, as controversial as my next statement will be: I believe that systems shoudl evolve. If a technique does not work for you, it is best to modify or change it so that it will. Flashy GIs definitely are something that will be criticized by many..
kempoxyz 2 years ago
Also no offensene to any one personally. i was just reading the comments and i thought i would do some research of my own i bump into a villaris school here and there durring my time as a soldier in the army the school itself seemed legit and the instructors where knowlegable "Villari's of Louisville" Meet them at rhe rising star national.
Me comments are based of my research and personal opinion.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
I did research and there is no point in bashing one and other I personal dont doubt villaris abilities all im saying is i dont think is past is legit. thats all. I cant prove that it is or that it is not the not it just dont seem right to me. sorry for all the frustration.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
New Baltimore New York upstate
kempoxyz 2 years ago
Did u just hear yourself, you just said that FV learned 82 more combos, now shotokan karate(which is never mentioned in his interview) Shaolin Kung-fu? it says shaolin kempo karate in your last statement and but ok. and then he learned all of these animals and mastered them also in that 2yrs period along with Chin Na! Brother just admit it, he is a farse. Your not making a believer outta me, i wont be brainwashed as easy as the general public i guess. u never defended this video, why is that?
superman816704 2 years ago 4
the fact that he now has 108 combos and he only learned 26 from cerio means he is a fraud. if it took him 2 years to learn and master 26combos how in the world did he learn and master another 82combos in just 2 more years. also FV went from 2nd degree to master in just another 2yrs and opened his first dojo...yeah ok then. I don't know anyone on the planet that can fly through the ranks that fast legit. Sorry, Let the truth shine forth and the lies be shown.
superman816704 2 years ago 13
The 108 contain the principles of fighting technique from not only Kempo (26) but also Western Boxing, Shotokan Karate and Shaolin Kung Fu including the animal fighting styles of the Tiger, Leopard, Crane, Snake and Dragon as well as siezing and locking techniques of Chin Na. The style is his creation in combining what he saw as the best form the various styles from around the world. His martial skill and knowledge is known and respected by Masters around the globe. That is the truth.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
I did a demonstration of Shaolin Kempo Karate in upstate New York, my group received standing ovations. We were there among Shotokan and TKD clubs, our club outshined them hands down.
kempoxyz 2 years ago
What part of New York?
ryukaibu 2 years ago
The Capital Region of New York. I have taught SKK for a while, I blend in other arts that I have learned. Northern Shaolin Kung Fu and other Kenpo systems...I enjoy teaching therefore I will always be a student as well...
kempoxyz 2 years ago
@zeeboo56 I run a Shotokan school. That is an insult to say he has any shotokan knowledge. Anyone who post a testing system on DVD is a money hungry moron.
shotojojo1986 1 year ago
Superman, after he left Nick Cerio, he still trained with him. Shaolin Kempo Karate is another name for Karazenpo Go Shinjitsu a derivation of Walter Goudin's expression of Kajukenbo. I do not know Fred Villari personally so I cannot comment on him. I train in Karazenpo (and) Nick Cerios kenpo as well as Kajukenbo. truthfully, these three arts are effective. It is more about the person than the style used. as for Goju, I am a big fan.
kempoxyz 2 years ago
I have read article you guys wear talking about and seeing this video just makes me think that villari is a bunch of hot garbage. I have studied goju ryu for 35 years and I know a farce when I see one!!!! name of this video Villari Cuts Wind
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 9
For a guy with 35 years of martial arts experience you seem jump to your conclusions rather quickly. You're also quick to insult which makes me doubt your claim. His organization has survived and thrived for over 40 years and if you still have any doubt come and attend his clinic this Nov. 13th in Sturbridge, MA. I'll be happy to introduce you.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
Im sure your no better then hot garbage yourself for being fished in by this grand master scam artist. When I was 18 we knew villari as the father of the mcdojos. No wander 90% of his masters are overweight out of shape instructors that throw belt stripes around like candy and sell their secret system for 149.99 dollars via video tape. Hmmmm sounds like the real deal to me. Shaolin Kempo yeah right what a load
SuperRob1953 2 years ago 15
Well Super Rob :), since you have held this opinion for 35 years, I doubt there is anything that would change your mind. So why don't you Gojo play with yourself.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
What would change his mind would be to step into a SKK dojo and keep an open mind. Our art offers a lot. Keep training and teaching
kempoxyz 2 years ago
@zeeboo56 well said sir well said
gyle91 1 year ago
@zeeboo56 oh, snap!
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@SuperRob1953 Superrob, what is your opinion of Gracie Ju-jitsu? Is it legit?
iayg1 1 year ago
@iayg1 I am a BJJ Blue Belt...almost purple....it is legit and 100x more effective than this ...stuff.... and I used to be a student in the Fred Villari franchise. I now have also obtained a blackbelt in Aikido, Red in Muay Thai, Blue in BJJ, and am studying under a well respected sifu in the Wong lineage of JKD.
mmahousenet 1 year ago
@SuperRob1953 Hmm, strange how none of my instructors are overweight OR out of shape. Try to get your facts right Robbie.
JesseMercArt 1 year ago
@JesseMercArt
Maybe your teachers are not over weight but, a vast majority of the villari instructors today are well to say the least they have extra combat padding. Obesity is a sign of unhealthy living and is a major crisis here in America. For instructors to preach an art that promotes a healthy body and a strong mind a lot of the martial art chains are falling very short of practicing what they preach.
SuperRob1953 1 year ago
@SuperRob1953 also just becuase fred may not be legit does not mean your instructors are bad. dojos in ever system have great masters and also then ones that seem to have got their rank out of a craker jack box. i dont hate any martial artist its just that ive been around villari for many years and i knew him before he made himself master by his hand. i just wish he would tell the truth for once
SuperRob1953 1 year ago
@SuperRob1953 also just becuase fred may not be legit does not mean your instructors are bad. dojos in ever system have great masters and also then ones that seem to have got their rank out of a craker jack box. i dont hate any martial artist its just that ive been around villari for many years and i knew him before he made himself master by his own hand. i just wish he would tell the truth for once
SuperRob1953 1 year ago
@SuperRob1953 I go to a Villari dojo myself, and it isnt "hot garbage". We learn very effective techniques. At my dojo, my master doesn't believe in junior blackbelts; we have to work for our rank. Also, before you toss around insults of all instructors being fat, i thought i will let you know my master is over-weight, but that is because he suffered from colon cancer. In relation to daboodeef179, we learn about self discipline, self control, and respect. You have none of these qualities.
LucasRidesBikes 6 months ago
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I have read article you guys wear talking about and seeing this video just makes me think that villari is a bunch of hot garbage. I have studied goju ryu for 35 years and I know a farce when I see one!!!
SuperRob1953 2 years ago
google has all the old black belt mags on file. just do a google search for villari black belt 1975 its a good read.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
Also in the course 4 years he trained to years he spent 2 in Polynesia with Chinese masters with vague Korean names and was promoted from 2nd dan to 5th dan. And he had 35 dojo open up in his system and personally trained all the instructors. These are his words
Not to mention he proclaims himself a 10th dan grand master at the age of 30 in 1975 again his own words.
Im not the best martial artist nor am I a master ive been training 16 years in Bujutsu but I really study facts
ryukaibu 2 years ago
within a 4 year period he opens 35 schools training their instructors as well and still had time to spend 2 year in polynesia.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
Ok he states that he learned Chinese boxing before Chinese martial arts were available in the western world.
He say he started knife training at the age of 7.
And have suriken techniques that few masters possess even though true Ninjutsu did not come to the USA till 1980 Source Bujinkan hando Dojo.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
It was FVs father that encouraged his interest in learning to fight. He initially taught him to box and later arranged lessons in wrestling. Working on the docks of Rhode Island, Fred's father became acquainted with a Chinaman who practiced Chinese Boxing. It was this man that first introduced FV to the world of Shaolin.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
The 1975 article was written by Massad Ayoob, founder of the Lethal Force Institute and renowned firearms and self defense instructor. In this article Mr. Ayoob acknowledges Villari's expertise with the knife. Although the popularity of Ninjutsu would come later, the use of suriken was already well known to the general public through the TV series "Kung Fu" and old news to experts of the blade.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
Ok I did intensive research on fred villari Nick cerio has claimed to started vilarris training in 1967 in 1971 FV opened his first school as a 2nd degree black belt if you take a look at both nick cerios Kempo and FV kempo they are just about mirror images of each other. But what really makes me think he is a fraud is the 1975 apirl issue of black belt mag.
ryukaibu 2 years ago
While it is true that FV learned Kenpo from Cerio, it is only one piece of of his Shaolin Kempo Karate and although there are similarities between these two schools in the early ranks, the difference becomes clear as you progress. The Forms diverge and there are 108 numbered Combinations in the Villari system compared to Cerios original 26. I suggest you continue your "intensive research" before you throw around words like fraud.
zeeboo56 2 years ago
him vs master clark of shialon kempo >>
3LoVeReBeKaH3 2 years ago
The level of debate in this thread says a lot about Villari students! If you want to see strength and power, watch a vid. of Mas Oyama fighting. He doesn't wear a fancy costume, though - or do staged demonstrations. If you want to ger perforated, try one of these 'knife defences' on somebody who's really trying to hurt you.
GojuBob 2 years ago 2
Though I'm learning Villari's system, I can't say I like the guy. No, I don't know him personally, but the fact that he sells SKK on tapes for outrageous prices makes me mad. That's something you go to a dojo for anyways. It seems to me that he's only in it for the money. I almost feel ashamed for learning a system made by him.
KEYWORD: ALMOST
If it weren't so goddamn awesome then yes, I would feel ashamed.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
rembot, although the prices are high, the fighting style is amazing, i have been with it for about 7 years now
GPrankG 2 years ago
Oh I know its worth it.
I'm postponing it right now because of transportation issues. Once I turn 16 and I have a car then I'll join up again.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
you said again, what belt were you when you left, i am currently brown belt with one brown stripe
GPrankG 2 years ago
at 0:13 he kicks a guy holding a knife in the arm. not only does the guy drop the knife, but he falls down!
I think I'll pass on this guy.
seadawg93 3 years ago
I was so lucky to be able to meet this amazing man in person at Sturbridge, when I was a green belt. The energy just rolls off of him. I don't know about the issues that people have with him, but I'm very grateful to have been able to learn to defend myself.
kizuna8 3 years ago
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p0rtugueser0b 3 years ago
cool, i used to study this until it went outta buisness lol
evilresidence4 3 years ago
Yeah demasco left u guys cause you treated him like shit!!
now all you have some 5th degree in connecticut with 2 ussd schools trying to compete against a 10th degree with 9 schools!
ninja98765432 3 years ago
You saw that too KM205, this guy is a joke, and so are his people for allowing him to think he is so good. I've never seen a Grandmaster with so many uniforms, he's hung up on himself, what an ego. The dude who got kicked in the wirst was like, "awe crap I'm suppose to go down now, grandmaster used his class 2 wizard skills on me!"
kenpoj81 3 years ago
Man, shutup, sure he may be cocky, but Villari's system is surprisingly effective.
You don't even know. This guy is one of the deadliest men on the planet. Why do you think Villari's is the most popular and joined dojo in all of northern america?
hailmetal16 3 years ago
It's cool, tell me to shut up, say what you want, but it won't change the fact that this mans is sloppy at best, or at least the way he currently performs it. As for you, protect him all you want. One of the deadliest men on the planet..?.. Okay, keep deifying him, might as well call him O'Sensei, like the Aiki Call Ueshiba. I tell you what, if you're not to busy, maybe you could buy, no... make Villari a new uniform. I'm sure he's already worn out his last one hundred with all his stripes.
kenpoj81 3 years ago
oh. yea thats right.
it is the most popular. are you forgetting about United Studios of Self Defense, by any chance? WE are the most popular and fred villari WISHES he was us.
and might i add, we are the ONLY dojo recognized by the Shaolin Temple in China. do your homework dude. kenpoj81 is right.. get off his nutsack already.
USSDvegas 3 years ago
Funny, where are your schools on the East Cost? Fred Villari is very popular there, and you guys have 2 schools on the whole coast. I checked out your website...a school that says "coming soon" next to it doesn't count. Listen, USSDvegas, you should be THANKFUL to Fred Villari. He is the reason your chain exists. Your organization broke off from Fred Villari.Check your sources and learn your history. I learned it and I have nothing to do with either school.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago 4
yes, our system isnt flashy like Tae Kwon Do. however, it is incredibly practical and effective. we arent recognized by the Shaolin Temple for no reason.
USSDvegas 3 years ago
Kenpo/Kempo, no matter which lineage, is effective.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago 3
finally, we agree.
USSDvegas 3 years ago
Good Martial Artists will agree when it comes down to it.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago 2
yes, they will.
USSDvegas 3 years ago
too bad there are too many around that just want to argue all the time.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago 3
yea i know right? haha
USSDvegas 3 years ago
Ah dude anyone can get a stone tablet at the temple for a price!
Plus you guys don't even teach shaolin. Its villari kempo.
ninja98765432 3 years ago
actually, maybe you should do some more research on that, because Grandmaster Villari did study Shaolin Kempo from several monks, and I have never even heard of United Studios of Self Defense!
offbroadway2707 3 years ago
yeah, if you faced him, I bet that you would freeze up from fear, and regret that you had said that, because you don't know anything about Shaolin Kempo!
offbroadway2707 3 years ago
oh really?
another villari groupie. thats cute. well heres a word of advice. dont tell somebody who has been studying for 6 years and teaching for 3 that they do not know anything about Shaolin Ch'uan Fa. oh and if you have never heard USSD, crawl out from the cave you live in. you're full of shit. and yes, we did break off from villari. but thats cuz he's a douche bag. so whatever problem you have, you can fuck yourself with it. have a good day.
USSDvegas 3 years ago
well, you know what, I'm not even going to say anything back to your comment, because on this page, you have broken ALL of the six school rules! that's right!
1. Respect
2.Effort
3. Ettiqute
4.Sincerity
5.Character
6.Self-Control
and also, I'm pretty sure that Martial Arts schools are NOT in compettition with each other.
offbroadway2707 3 years ago
It depends, seems like a lot of kempo schools at least are for profit as opposed to non profit ventures. So If half the people in a town are Villari black belts trying to make a living off kenpo then they are certainly in competition with each other. A town can only support so many for profit kempo schools.
EvenTakenIsTaken 3 years ago
don't forget that he might be in a state where USSD doesn't have a school. offbroadway, where are you from?
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago
Hey dude have you looked at all the ussd schools on the east coast? There isn't any!!
It's all fred villari shaolin kempo! Mattera can't open there because theres a villari 6th degree at every corner.
ninja98765432 3 years ago
To offbroadway2707, kungfupanda2u, and ninja98764532, I would like to apologize on behalf of ussdvegas. Please know that not all ussd students behave in this manner and do follow the, (we normally use the 5 but respect is a given), 5 principles. ussdvegas please be more mature and responsible when you try to represent us. This behavior only further perpetuates the negativity that we receive from time to time. Something to think about.
omni01K 3 years ago 2
Then to you I would like to apologize on behalf of those 3, for replying as assholes rather than just keeping their mouths shut. It was a pointless argument to begin with.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
why are you guys even apologizing for an argument that 1. none of you that are apologizing were involved in and 2. seems to have dissolved itself 3 months prior to the first apology? I say, just let sleeping dogs lie...
Fanara1 2 years ago
Look, another asshole.
That argument was on this page before you came here.
Your a hypocrite, your the one who took his time replying to something that happened a month ago. You would have been better off keeping your mouth shut.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
so would you.
Fanara1 2 years ago
That doesn't apply when your the one being insulted.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
i wasn't insulting you. don't apologize for other people though. if they wanted to apologize, they probably would have done it. "look twice, listen twice before you speak once."
Fanara1 2 years ago
I don't feel like arguing over nothing.
Lets forget this conversation ever transpired.
RemBot2000 2 years ago
Must have been some kind of Magical Kick for it to hit then guy in the rist and knock him down WITH OUT EVEN LOOKING.
KempoMaster205 3 years ago
Nice kick at 13seconds, he had so much CHI/Ki in it, he only kicked the guy in the hand and sent him backwards. WOW!!!! I wish I could do that :)
KempoMaster205 3 years ago
Ya know what's amazing about that kick, he hits the guy square on the wrist that's holding the knife and does it without even looking
zeeboo56 3 years ago
hey man its a demo so he knew the guy was there duh!!
shalashaska75 3 years ago
hey, where is video of your grandmaster doing something...anything? i saw none...i give villari props for at least putting stuff out on youtube
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago
yea, its unfortunate that he has to put his stuff on youtube just so that it can be heard about. our masters are talked about through out our company as well as other ones, youtube would be like sinking to a lower level if they had to put stuff up just so that our name could be put out there.
KempoMaster205 3 years ago
lol...whatever. who are your masters?
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago
Hey, I've seen Master Black and Master Paul Taylor on Youtube...can't say I'm disappointed, but can't say I'm impressed either. I just think if there's going to be badmouthing, it shouldn't occur. We are all martial artists. I've looked at one of your company's websites...don't you have 5 principle rules? Where's your ettiquette? Must have flown out the window...respect and good manners. Try and have some.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago 4
exactly! what happened to the five school rules?
offbroadway2707 3 years ago
i think theirs got lost in translation. lol.
kungfupanda2u 3 years ago
..hmm when is grandmaster..lol...going to be in the ufc?..hey he could fight steve demasco hes a shaolin monk right?..i crack myself up..
jamesinct 3 years ago
I saw him at one of my belt tests once.
evilresidence4 3 years ago
musashi71, you are 71 and bickering with kids on the internet? I use the term kids in relation to your age. You sound like another Ashida Kim esque self proclaimed master.
lucky7z 3 years ago 3
i never said what rank i was or proclaimed anything. how old do you have to be to know the truth? btw who the fuck are you? im not bickering im debating some of these techniques!
musashi71 3 years ago 2
villari's is just a sport karate nothing else
shalashaska75 3 years ago
musashi, you seem like you're just troll. obviously people have learned from Fred Villari a lot of valuable skills. My take on SKK is that it's kind of like college. It helps teach you what you gravitate towards the most. I don't train in SKK, have taken quickly to FMA, BJJ, MT (MMA in general), a style of Kung Fu that you wouldn't be able to ever study because it's closed door training, and Chen Taij. I study with great Masters of their arts, but will not ever speak ill of SKK. let it go.
Fanara1 3 years ago
Villari is obviously a successful entrepreneur, but not necessarily a martial artist of any integrity. He initially received his black belt from Nick Cerio, who pretty much pioneered the teaching of Kenpo in the northeast. Villari later essentially promoted himself to 10th degree and awarded himself the "Grandmaster" title...makes good business sense, I suppose(he opened hundreds of schools),but it also causes you to lose the respect of the greater martial arts community .
smokebombhill 3 years ago
It is true that FV learned Kenpo from Cerio, but that is just a portion of what he included to create his system. SKK also includes concepts from Shotokan and Chinese Boxing to form one the worlds first Mixed Martial Arts Systems. As it's founder, FV has clearly earned his designation as Grand Master. Some my take issue with FV for their own reasons but even his most ardent critics, competitors and peers respect his unique Martial skill even to this day.
zeeboo56 3 years ago
who? even musashi had mixed martial arts back in the day, every style ive ever trained in has ground fighting, kicking, and punchingand joint locks. except maybe the tkd you learn in the states.
musashi71 3 years ago
who as to who respects that dude? zeeboo56 i would like to know!
musashi71 3 years ago
If had any real knowledge of Musashi or Villri for that matter, you would see the parallel.
zeeboo56 3 years ago
not a real answer to my question, you are a fool if you think musashi and fred are parallel. musashi's kill you art v's freds sport. how many death matches has fred been in? what arts have you studied? my guess is skk and thats it (you don't know any better)oh ya tell me some of the parallels, i know you wont though cuz you don't know shit
musashi71 3 years ago
Like Miyamoto Musashi, Fred Villari tested his skills in reality. His street fights and challenges as a young man are legendary. Like Musashi he is known for his prodigious skill, cunning and ruthlessness. Fred Villari earned the respect of anyone who ever dared face him. If you really want to learn more about the person you so ignorantly maline, find and read Massad Ayoub's (a well respected martial artist himself) article in the july 1975 Black Belt Magazine.
zeeboo56 3 years ago
You don't know who you are arguing with. I know who he is and he happens to be one of the most knowledgeable martial artist I have ever met.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
My last comment was meant for musashi71.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
check out the fred v's the knife and tell me if you think that would work? then we'll talk!
musashi71 3 years ago
ponaterchip, im talking to you.
musashi71 3 years ago
When it comes to training against a knife attack I personally use the most stress inducing method I can find. The Shocknife (which I own and have a safety monitor certification in), in conjunction with an ever change environment and a variety of scenarios, is the most realistic manner of training I can find. It's the same system used by various gov. agencies and the reality based self-defense instructor Jim Wagner. The majority of my knife defenses are from Villari's high ranking masters.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
lol that knife video is a complete joke. im siding with you.
pinkboy86 3 years ago
It has been my experience that the knife defenses taught by GM Villari and his high ranking masters teach valuable concepts. In my "reality" training I have never used an entire technique that I've been shown, however I have used the concepts that these techniques have taught successfully. I am unwilling to perform these against a live blade (accidents can happen) but am very confident that I could survive a knife attack.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
Musashi71, I'm sure you are confident in your martial arts knowledge, however zeeboo56 has been training since you were probably in preschool and since before I was born. His knowledge of the arts is probably greater than ours combined. I think you should show him the respect he deserves. With that said he also doesn't need me to defend him.
I will attempt to refrain from posting on this video again because the whole thing is just silly and has gotten out of control.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
im 71 and have studied my family style from about 4 years old till now! when i came to the u.s.a. i joined a villari school and moved up fast, but saw other people getting black belts that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag ( i was 58 then )who are zeeboo56's masters? why do i owe them respect or him?
musashi71 3 years ago
i see comments saying you can own your own dojo from this guy. but that sounds like a mic dojo to me kinda like karate for kids arent you just buying the Name????
cloudd92 3 years ago
you people are all blind! i know 18 year old girls that could kick freds (ass big time)
musashi71 3 years ago
What is you problem? Did you have a bad experience or are you just looking for somebody to talk to.
zeeboo56 3 years ago
no, whats YOUR problem. musashi knows a LOT more than you. maybe you should actually look at what fred is doing in his knife video, because it is REALLY ineffective!!
pinkboy86 3 years ago
I am quite familiar with the the technique and can attest to it's effectiveness so I am still at a lose as to what your problem is...
zeeboo56 3 years ago
have you ever tryed it on the street against a real person? and they are actually STABBING YOU!! i dont think you have.
pinkboy86 3 years ago
Based on that logic, you obviously have tried it in an actual assault and now that your dead, have come to the conclusion that the technique doesn't work? Come on, even something as simple and effective as a front kick can't be applied successfully by everybody every time. Keep trying, it works.
zeeboo56 3 years ago
if it works sometimes thats not enough in this case with a knife to your throat......duh
musashi71 3 years ago
it will never work, if the guy has any skill your dead, hence its a bad technique, end of story. im glad at least one person see's the light! thank you pinkboy86.
musashi71 3 years ago
by the way, i've never seen a more striped up grandmaster, gold bars and all he is nothing but a master of puppets. in my opinion!
musashi71 3 years ago
Actually I've never met a student/ex-student of Villari's. I'm actually an ex-student of Mattera because his system is full of thugs. Master Richard Black for instance. I was told one of my masters (Master Black) has actually ran someone over on purpose. Wouldn't have believe it if it didn't come from my chief instructors mouth. Now I'm with Lohan School, who charges 60-80 bucks a month and teaches tanglangquan, tai chi, and several other martial arts and has 2-hour classes.
DeftJay 3 years ago
Thanks Ponater for not getting all offended and lashing out at me the way 'master' did, so I'll be respectful and honest here. No I've never been apart of Villari's, but if you reread my comments, i never said anything about Villari's martial arts skill, and I believe he has his rank for a reason, but mastersjh brought it up. I meant I am sick of the large amount of money hungry instructors out there...
DeftJay 3 years ago
Thank you for the respectful response. Good luck in your training. If you enjoy it and you are learning what you feel is valuable information then imo it doesn't matter if it cost $25 or $500. Personally I wish I could get $500 dollars to teach a private. Who doesn't want to make a buck?
ponaterchip 3 years ago
Oh what? I'm ignorant because I'm 17? Then why do so many people agree with me? Like I said I'm still a born martial artist, I know what I'm talking about. Piv won't even reply to me because he knows I got him about Villari charging to much, being greedy, and not having control enough to not injure his students. I want an intelligent reply this time instead of "Ah, yes. Of course. Thank you. Your last sentence explains a lot."
DeftJay 3 years ago
Have you ever been apart of the Villari organization? My guess is no. Where did you get your information on GM Villari? Most people that comment received their information from former/ disgruntled students or instructors. Every system, organization, and business has that.The purpose of these videos is to show the skill and knowledge GM Villari possesses (which doesn't come across in these videos)not so people can bash his business practices.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong though, I still dislike Mattera more than Villari, and they are both still jokes in my book.
DeftJay 3 years ago
Okay so from checking back heres the oh-so convincing information I've collected.
Apparently, according to Piv, you pay more than 500 bucks for an entire session meaning one whole session? XD greedy. And Villari gave one of his own guys a concussion while showing techniques? Dumbass needs to work on his control then. However, it was quite insulting that Piv said I don't get martial arts. I'm only 17, but I am still a born martial artist.
DeftJay 3 years ago
Ah, yes. Of course. Thank you. Your last sentence explains a lot.
mastersjh 3 years ago
If someone wanted to pay you $500 per month for lessons would you turn them down? I wouldn't. I personal hand over 250 bucks when ever I want a (that's one) lesson. Why? Because I feel the experience and information is worth it.
Maybe mastersjh has had concussions in the past making him more susceptible to them now. GM Villari does have amazing control as well as power, more than most of us can wish to have. It must be really tough to not slip a little extra juice into a strike on accident.
ponaterchip 3 years ago
I am one of the people in this video. I suffered a slight cuncussion as a result. It is not fake. Email me if you want the details of how the video was shot. I have trained in the Villari system for twenty years. Pivperson is quite correct. If you think Mr. Villari is sloppy or a joke, you really need to do some research.
mastersjh 3 years ago
I think Mattera and Villari are both jokes, they both try so hard to steal students from each other its ridiculous.
They are both money hungry mcdojo masters in my opinion, but thats just me.
DeftJay 3 years ago
No, Master Villari is not a joke. I don't think you get martial arts at all.
pivperson 3 years ago
ROn Jeremy does martial arts? J/k
NickoMcbrainRules 3 years ago
Really, lol. Way to go Ron. I'd love to see his Dragon forms.
BTC141 2 years ago
That's extremely sloppy. Watch his posture, very poor. I studied with him and then started american kenpo, very different. Villari is a joke.
OniSan81 3 years ago
Really? What's your name?
zeeboo56 3 years ago
its not the real deal its fake. just like in the movies
musashi71 3 years ago
If anybody is the real deal it's Fred Villari. Your silly comments reveal your ignorance
monia2105 3 years ago
have any of you tried to kick his ass? if not then you don't know if he IS the real deal!
musashi71 3 years ago
yea i train under villaris system, and I have seen him at seminars and he is the real deal.
TaiPan15 3 years ago
i was a 2nd dan in the villari style! till i found out its all about the money. now im a 2nd dan in another style plus training in two others. how many other styles have you trained in? did fred ever pay off his law suit?
musashi71 3 years ago