En la primera carrera del año de del campeonato del mundo de GTs, en la categoria de GT1 en Abu Dhabi, uno de los Nissan del equipo Sumo Power, al hacer el cambio de piloto, saliendo de boxes no termino de abrocharse el cinturon, y ademas causo un incidente con otro coche que venia saliendo de boxes. Se le hizo parar en la siguiente vuelta para comprobar el arnes. Es verdad, por un despiste se les puede olvidar, pero es fundamental para la seguridad. Imaginaos un vuelco en esa situacion...
A Loeb - Elena les penalizaron con 2 minutos en Cerdeña 2009 por hacer lo mismo que Sordo, en este caso fue el copi. De todos modos, con la extrema tensión de la carrera y del incidente, uno se puede equivocar. Qué fácil es juzgar a los demás!
He kept the seat belts off incase he couldn't make the pass and had to come out again quickly. Anyways after he passed the car he slowed his car to put the belts back on. Video's title is not true...STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS CAUSE YOU MAKE AN ASS OF YOURSELF.
Are you talking about something that happened after what we see in the video? Because in this video, he obviously didn't put the seat belts back on. All that can be seen in the video is that after he'd passed the car, he got up to speed again.
Lo k pasa es k sordo tiene un par de huevos y para el lo primero es la carrera pero eso a muchas personas se la suda lo de sordo es ambicion.QUE APRENDAN DEL PODERIO CANTABRO TODA ESTA GENTE K LE HA KRITIKADO POR SU ACCION.
i dont think he is stupid, when you're at a rally, your stress levels makes you commit stupid things, surely not even mark remembered, as he is a very experienced codriver, both of them unattached their seat belts, and as a matter of fact, if he would've liked it, the SS could have been cancelled because maybe it is not safe to pass through that little gap or the car doesn't fit at all.
That's bullshit! Loeb did the same in '09 or '10! So what? He isn't allowed to do mistakes? What McRae did in Corsica around 2001 with the Focus, when He have rolled good few times than fell out. That's what I'm called 'Stupidest move ever'!
well well any other driver would have passed anyway...just think about it..you lost time stopping ..apart from that he gets off from his car analyze the situation and then continue...so the title for this video doesn't make sense my friends...Rally Carajo...!!
the gearbox makes the whining sound, the gears are straight cut and sometimes even dry. so the gears make alot of noise. also another thing that whines, but can mostly be heard outside the car, is the turbos blowoff valve. it releases the turbos pressure.
The wheezing sound is actually noise caused by the ignition system. Race cars use non-resistive wire to the spark plugs, which is more efficient but causes a storm of RF noise. Production cars don't have them because you would hear that noise over your AM/FM radio
A sebastian Loeb una vez tambien lo penalizaron por algo parecido, pincho un neumatico, cuando estaba parando el auto Daniel Elena se desabrocho el cinturon y nada, los comisarios dijeron que el auto estaba en movimiento!
Pues para mi la parte estupida es que descalifiquen a un piloto por esta estupidez....! si se refieren a sordo...se supone que si ya perdio tiempo por el coche accidentado, asique ese tramo ya no deberia valer y por lo tanto no ser descalificado....si no hubiera podido continuar no pasaba nada...pero de verdad fue descalificado del rally??
Hasta que el rally no se suspende los demas se tienen que joder si hay obstaculos en el camino. Las normas de seguridad estan para que los pilotos no se maten y aun asi a veces palman como le paso el copiloto de makko en el 2005, sordo no se abrocho el cinturon, de forma comprensible, porque estaba muy pendiente de recuperar el mayor tiempo posible despues de perder mucho tiempo pero no estamos hablando de que no ponga el intermitente despues de haberse salido de la carretera sino del cinturon
@LaFotoAsesina estoy de acuerdo. es una putada que lo descalifiquen, pero la seguridad es lo primero y su vida esta en juego. mas vale perder un rally que la vida
y?, lo mire 475 veces, y no vi la parte estupida de sordo, al contrario, esta bien, EN EL RALLY SE GANA COMO PUEDE, lo estupido fue de los argentinos, que no movieron el auto.
@rallyramone What is more dangerous, wrong underpants(Hänninen in Neste Oil Rally 2006, if i'm right) or rally driving whitout seatbelts? Sorry my bad English.
seat belt is for pussies? ... haha no I would not call it that .. would say that those who do not have it would be, in that case. Or clean out the immature idiots who do not have a car to do! Grow up
The "most stupid move ever" was him not putting his seat belt back on or closing the damned door before he kept going. What if he flipped that next turn? And nobody realizes this?
its not really a stupid move, i agree the name of this video is a little much, but WRC rules are clear that you cant have your car back into the time slot without your saftey belts secured, watch everyother wrc driver, they make sure not to get penalized
Dani Sordo is my friend and is a fantastic person...this comentary of the video is really good. the stupid is the the ford-s driver but they can-t push out the fucking car. SORDO N'1 IN TARMAC VIVA CANTABRIA
And why is that actually?? He lost his opportunities for a good finish in the year. And those series of mistakes are building up on him. Instead of just insulting people make a constructive comment. he forgot to put his seatbelt. That is downright stupid. I am spanish and of course fan of Sordo. But that doesnt exclude him for stupid decisions.
That's ridiculous, is your sit belt, being a pro doesn't give you the reason to just "forget", they were putting their hands around the straps, they must have known.
Oh, well I didn't see the rest of it, that makes more sense. Why then did they still excluded him? Are you not supposed to even start the car before the sit belts are on?
That's correct, you're not supposed to be on stage without your belts on. Of course there are unwritten exceptions such as if you jumped out of your car to look at damage and need to move your car another 3ft forward (so that it's out of the way of rally traffic) they wouldn't give you shit for not doing up your belts. But otherwise, belts, helmet and hans device need to be on when on stage... as far as I know anyway.
And why is that? Sordo and you are being stupid here. Yeah, Sordo is a good driver etc. but that move was just plain stupid. Why to stop and step out of car when you can drive past..
NO they were right. He has to set a example to all other competitors. He is a pro and that is one of the first rules belts and helmets on when doing a stage at all time. the sport does not need a high profile death just because of some thing so simple. If you dont put your belt on in a WRC car on a stage you are playing with your life.
I agree with you... My premium was £1800 and £1500 on my Fathers insurance.... he has a clean license yet it was cheaper for me to go on my Mothers name and she has 9 Points. its fucking Ridiculous!
Stupid FIA the racist estupidos it is foolish when the French pick on Latinos and another minority.I am a Petter and Loeb fan and I don't think like that about Mikko and J.M.
yo salgo y le meto dos ostias asi de claro ke cojones?no puede mover el coche o tratar de moverlo y kitarlo de en medio?es un gran peligro para cualquier piloto.
Dani poco se enfado para lo que tenia que averlo hecho
¿Por qué dices que Sordo se comporta de forma estúpida? esto le podría pasar a cualquiera, el crono es una obsesión para los pilotos de rally. Grande Sordo!
Is not necessary insulting these drivers. Im Hirvonen and Latvala's fan, and i dont think like that about Loeb. If loeb were stupid he wouldn't been where he is now. We r just tired watching him winning but now in 2008 will be hard for him.
Also, he pretty much gets all the breaks--life seems charmed. It's really annoying to watch him win repeatedly just because all his competitors crash out/get unlucky. Yeah, you can say there's no such thing as luck in racing... but try telling that to, say, Subaru...
(Though actually, 2008 season maybe not so charmed anymore!)
Fué un despiste y punto,
Laserton 2 months ago
En la primera carrera del año de del campeonato del mundo de GTs, en la categoria de GT1 en Abu Dhabi, uno de los Nissan del equipo Sumo Power, al hacer el cambio de piloto, saliendo de boxes no termino de abrocharse el cinturon, y ademas causo un incidente con otro coche que venia saliendo de boxes. Se le hizo parar en la siguiente vuelta para comprobar el arnes. Es verdad, por un despiste se les puede olvidar, pero es fundamental para la seguridad. Imaginaos un vuelco en esa situacion...
Vladamor 2 months ago
A Loeb - Elena les penalizaron con 2 minutos en Cerdeña 2009 por hacer lo mismo que Sordo, en este caso fue el copi. De todos modos, con la extrema tensión de la carrera y del incidente, uno se puede equivocar. Qué fácil es juzgar a los demás!
kikekike69 3 months ago
He kept the seat belts off incase he couldn't make the pass and had to come out again quickly. Anyways after he passed the car he slowed his car to put the belts back on. Video's title is not true...STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS CAUSE YOU MAKE AN ASS OF YOURSELF.
dietrichian 4 months ago
@dietrichian
Are you talking about something that happened after what we see in the video? Because in this video, he obviously didn't put the seat belts back on. All that can be seen in the video is that after he'd passed the car, he got up to speed again.
criscros7 1 month ago
Lo k pasa es k sordo tiene un par de huevos y para el lo primero es la carrera pero eso a muchas personas se la suda lo de sordo es ambicion.QUE APRENDAN DEL PODERIO CANTABRO TODA ESTA GENTE K LE HA KRITIKADO POR SU ACCION.
joserieju2 4 months ago
yes! young people may do stupid things.... but English people are the most stupid in the Universe.... so....
enricorisso 5 months ago
He didn't even had his seat belt on before driving away I thought that was going to be the dumb thing
chrisjoholski 5 months ago
i dont think he is stupid, when you're at a rally, your stress levels makes you commit stupid things, surely not even mark remembered, as he is a very experienced codriver, both of them unattached their seat belts, and as a matter of fact, if he would've liked it, the SS could have been cancelled because maybe it is not safe to pass through that little gap or the car doesn't fit at all.
elzapatita 6 months ago
That's bullshit! Loeb did the same in '09 or '10! So what? He isn't allowed to do mistakes? What McRae did in Corsica around 2001 with the Focus, when He have rolled good few times than fell out. That's what I'm called 'Stupidest move ever'!
molnarpj 6 months ago
perez companc qe grande
pablodeslo 6 months ago
dont if this is why the title is what it is but it was stupid to race while trying to put yours seatbelt back on...why did he get out?
IrishBean 7 months ago
El argentino le dice : por hay cruza boludo 1:02
Mati03x 7 months ago
crappy video...stupid title...
mcschp 7 months ago
WTF!?
OPTeeMooS 8 months ago
eso solo le pasa a una buena persona y encima lo sancionan para k vean a la fia k gente tiene consigo dani es bueno y encima es buena gente
matrfern 10 months ago
Stupid???
sennasound 10 months ago
Sordo no escuchó
lealowo 11 months ago
disagree, he also crashed into a roundabout
SuperSaiyen4 11 months ago
????¿¿¿¿¿¿¿????¿?????
pelotodegofio 11 months ago
He say ..OoooO Look We Have one FUN who doing something with hands !!!!!
CanijAsa 1 year ago
why stupid???????????? bah
cervinima 1 year ago
@cervinima They didn't put their seatbelts on till after the car was moving which breaks rally rules.
PippinRally 1 year ago
@PippinRally ah ok i'm sorry!
i really didn't see it!
cervinima 1 year ago
well well any other driver would have passed anyway...just think about it..you lost time stopping ..apart from that he gets off from his car analyze the situation and then continue...so the title for this video doesn't make sense my friends...Rally Carajo...!!
pardorallyteam 1 year ago
why didnt him just pushed him off the clift
tulile86 1 year ago
whats better? lose time? or get retired automatically for not wearing harnesses?
Keegz2k7 1 year ago
Dani didn't manage to keep his concentration. everybody knows the rules no driving without a seatbelt so.... it is his own fault
yordostube 1 year ago 2
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yordostube 1 year ago
Why do the cars sound like hair dryers?
OMFGXeno 2 years ago
the gearbox makes the whining sound, the gears are straight cut and sometimes even dry. so the gears make alot of noise. also another thing that whines, but can mostly be heard outside the car, is the turbos blowoff valve. it releases the turbos pressure.
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
The wheezing sound is actually noise caused by the ignition system. Race cars use non-resistive wire to the spark plugs, which is more efficient but causes a storm of RF noise. Production cars don't have them because you would hear that noise over your AM/FM radio
LaFotoAsesina 1 year ago
i know that. i just thought that he meant the sound that comes from the gearbox.
tohtorigyro 1 year ago
@LaFotoAsesina i didn't mean the whining in the audio track of the co-driver.
tohtorigyro 1 year ago
@OMFGXeno Because the engines are turbocharged
charliegaze 1 year ago
turbo? >.> lol
Keegz2k7 1 year ago
A sebastian Loeb una vez tambien lo penalizaron por algo parecido, pincho un neumatico, cuando estaba parando el auto Daniel Elena se desabrocho el cinturon y nada, los comisarios dijeron que el auto estaba en movimiento!
lonchomon 2 years ago
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@rantanen1
fag=you
go play scrabble some more word boy...
did i mention
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Burritoast 2 years ago
Lack of maturity is bliss.
gtrracer 2 years ago
Pues para mi la parte estupida es que descalifiquen a un piloto por esta estupidez....! si se refieren a sordo...se supone que si ya perdio tiempo por el coche accidentado, asique ese tramo ya no deberia valer y por lo tanto no ser descalificado....si no hubiera podido continuar no pasaba nada...pero de verdad fue descalificado del rally??
martinmui 2 years ago 5
Hasta que el rally no se suspende los demas se tienen que joder si hay obstaculos en el camino. Las normas de seguridad estan para que los pilotos no se maten y aun asi a veces palman como le paso el copiloto de makko en el 2005, sordo no se abrocho el cinturon, de forma comprensible, porque estaba muy pendiente de recuperar el mayor tiempo posible despues de perder mucho tiempo pero no estamos hablando de que no ponga el intermitente despues de haberse salido de la carretera sino del cinturon
LaFotoAsesina 1 year ago 4
@LaFotoAsesina estoy de acuerdo. es una putada que lo descalifiquen, pero la seguridad es lo primero y su vida esta en juego. mas vale perder un rally que la vida
echelon000 3 months ago
@martinmui Yo creo que lo de la descalificacion es por lo de abrocharse el cinturon después de haber arrancado
javierdonoso10 5 months ago
@martinmui lo descalifica por no volver a abrocharse el cinturón
javipe10208 1 month ago
SORDO= PARA EL CAMPEON DE 2010
OccurianBlitzabes 2 years ago
rofl so much for the seatbelt
ASirensSoliloquy 2 years ago
Loeb done that same he got 2 minutes. And if he has got more penalty, Mikko Hirvonen would be the world champion.
Toikkaz 2 years ago 2
It was not a stupidest mistake. He was pissed up that's all.
molnarpj 2 years ago 4
RULES ARE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE!
jalexrosh 2 years ago 10
@jalexrosh
AWSM THAT U USE CAPS, IT MAKES U SOUND MORE IMPORTANT
rantanen1 2 years ago 2
@rantanen1 Well I'm a small man and I use small letters for my name,but when I need to make a point,I put CAPS SO I CAN BE HEARD! Lol
jalexrosh 2 years ago
en el calor del momento puede pasar...
decir que es lo mas "estupido"; para mi es una exageracion.
marcodavidconde 2 years ago
El error que comete es que no vuelve a atarse el cinto, por eso lo excluyen. El otro auto estaba destruído, era imposible moverlo. Saludos.
Andresrunner 2 years ago
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i think your the one whose stupid... dumbass...
1 star cuz your a fag
Burritoast 2 years ago
@Burritoast
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i think ure the one that's stupid:)
rantanen1 2 years ago 4
y?, lo mire 475 veces, y no vi la parte estupida de sordo, al contrario, esta bien, EN EL RALLY SE GANA COMO PUEDE, lo estupido fue de los argentinos, que no movieron el auto.
mzboy99 2 years ago
es por el cinturón
StegoMan 2 years ago
por culpa de uno no la tienn q papar los otro fixo ben
sordo campeon!!!
friman2008 2 years ago
I cant believe that Loeb wasnt disqualifed for doing same thing! He only got 2min penalty. Rules should be same for everyone.
rallyramone 2 years ago 73
@rallyramone What is more dangerous, wrong underpants(Hänninen in Neste Oil Rally 2006, if i'm right) or rally driving whitout seatbelts? Sorry my bad English.
BuenoSeraPerkele 1 year ago
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Kumileimasin 5 months ago
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like in F1 old days... if Schumacher crashed in start of the race it was 100% certain that race was red flagged and restarted
Kumileimasin 5 months ago
Did he even has his seat belt on before he stopped?
jogga123 2 years ago
did they actually count the stage? if they did, that's the REAL stupid thing about it, lol
LXRyan 2 years ago
And what was the stupid part ?
hrrzoy 2 years ago
He drove without his Seat belt!!! He was disqualified fot this!!! ;-)
MattMatt2308 2 years ago 24
no me parece algo estupido,mas bien inteligente,porqe ay q seguir el rally
samurally 2 years ago
Lo estupido fue no ponerse el cinturon de seguridad, y por eso lo descalificaron.
xtryker1 2 years ago
Hizo bien,
yo hubiera echo lo mismo que Dani.
Para estupido el argentino que no se dignó a apartar su coche de la carretera
cristian747a 2 years ago 2
he just wanted to get through
wrxsti91 2 years ago
nothing stupid here
beuou 2 years ago 2
The only stupid thing was that he didn't put his racing harness afterwards - everything else was normal.
sikkre2006 2 years ago 11
Yep. From memory he got a time penalty for driving without the harness on. That's the 'silly' part.. Wouldn't call it stupid.
SRCD 2 years ago
But he was disqualified fot that!!! that's forbidden
MattMatt2308 2 years ago
que inteligente que fue el argentino que se bajo y evito el choque ;)
acarizza 2 years ago
CoupeLawd:
seat belt is for pussies? ... haha no I would not call it that .. would say that those who do not have it would be, in that case. Or clean out the immature idiots who do not have a car to do! Grow up
lillenkill 2 years ago 2
He was just trying to help.
TheBigBoss005 2 years ago
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TheBigBoss005 2 years ago
Stupid title for this video!!
ehealo 2 years ago 82
I think its a good decision and very good sportsmanship. What did you want him to do? Ram him off the road like an ass?
timsk 3 years ago
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seatbelts r for pussys, rally on sordo
CoupeLawd 3 years ago
How many did you have before you named this video LaFotoAsesina?!
hkj73 3 years ago
The "most stupid move ever" was him not putting his seat belt back on or closing the damned door before he kept going. What if he flipped that next turn? And nobody realizes this?
GrungeMedia 3 years ago 6
hows that a stupid move? he only got out of the car ro check if the other driver was ok, thats just good sportsmanship
renzotec 3 years ago 20
its not really a stupid move, i agree the name of this video is a little much, but WRC rules are clear that you cant have your car back into the time slot without your saftey belts secured, watch everyother wrc driver, they make sure not to get penalized
potoker9 3 years ago 2
Dani Sordo is my friend and is a fantastic person...this comentary of the video is really good. the stupid is the the ford-s driver but they can-t push out the fucking car. SORDO N'1 IN TARMAC VIVA CANTABRIA
p1inthestreets 3 years ago 3
totally agree hardyj. the poster of this video is a wanker.
gazwrc 3 years ago 6
And why is that actually?? He lost his opportunities for a good finish in the year. And those series of mistakes are building up on him. Instead of just insulting people make a constructive comment. he forgot to put his seatbelt. That is downright stupid. I am spanish and of course fan of Sordo. But that doesnt exclude him for stupid decisions.
LaFotoAsesina 3 years ago 3
It is a mistake which can happen, stressed and annoyed by the loss of time, due to a mistake of another racer.
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago
what the fuck.....his stupidest mistake ever? your mum having you was the stupidest mmistake ever.
hardyj 3 years ago 10
That's ridiculous, is your sit belt, being a pro doesn't give you the reason to just "forget", they were putting their hands around the straps, they must have known.
DjosueD 3 years ago
It's clear that he did know. He just decided to do up his belts after he started again. It's not like he left them undone for the rest of the stage.
dvrogers 3 years ago
Oh, well I didn't see the rest of it, that makes more sense. Why then did they still excluded him? Are you not supposed to even start the car before the sit belts are on?
DjosueD 3 years ago
That's correct, you're not supposed to be on stage without your belts on. Of course there are unwritten exceptions such as if you jumped out of your car to look at damage and need to move your car another 3ft forward (so that it's out of the way of rally traffic) they wouldn't give you shit for not doing up your belts. But otherwise, belts, helmet and hans device need to be on when on stage... as far as I know anyway.
dvrogers 3 years ago
The poster of this video is the stupidest poster ever.
BigAngeloSantorini 3 years ago 6
And why is that? Sordo and you are being stupid here. Yeah, Sordo is a good driver etc. but that move was just plain stupid. Why to stop and step out of car when you can drive past..
Fleshgear1 3 years ago
Increible pilotando y colocandose los cinturones. es grande este tio.
Kurt1994Cobain 3 years ago
jajajaja k fiera y fue capad de ponerselos en marcha xD
tirolejano 3 years ago
Lo excluyeron porque no se puso los arneses antes de tirar p'alante
boriet 3 years ago
the FIA is foolish,so,just because he did not keep his restraints on he is disqualified.That is his problem not the FIAs
stemipino 3 years ago
NO they were right. He has to set a example to all other competitors. He is a pro and that is one of the first rules belts and helmets on when doing a stage at all time. the sport does not need a high profile death just because of some thing so simple. If you dont put your belt on in a WRC car on a stage you are playing with your life.
rallyingtcp 3 years ago 6
hmm i love how the maker of this video implies it is because he is a younger driver.
age hardly has anything to do with it.
and its stereotyping like that is making my first car insurance premium so damn high..
HeathwoodStudios 3 years ago 7
I agree with you... My premium was £1800 and £1500 on my Fathers insurance.... he has a clean license yet it was cheaper for me to go on my Mothers name and she has 9 Points. its fucking Ridiculous!
RSNSkillplayer 2 years ago
I woudlnt say stupid, dude this is motorsports you think about the victory and good position more than a seatbelt.
92NB 3 years ago
I don't see what is stupid, he just forgot...
netlord 3 years ago 7
Who is the commentator
ddourson 3 years ago
Stupid FIA the racist estupidos it is foolish when the French pick on Latinos and another minority.I am a Petter and Loeb fan and I don't think like that about Mikko and J.M.
ddourson 3 years ago
tenia que haber pasado por encima de el, con dos cojones
Pabluko 3 years ago
yo salgo y le meto dos ostias asi de claro ke cojones?no puede mover el coche o tratar de moverlo y kitarlo de en medio?es un gran peligro para cualquier piloto.
Dani poco se enfado para lo que tenia que averlo hecho
p1inthestreets 3 years ago
theres nothing stupid there, life means more than win.
-wictro
wictro 3 years ago
¿Por qué dices que Sordo se comporta de forma estúpida? esto le podría pasar a cualquiera, el crono es una obsesión para los pilotos de rally. Grande Sordo!
joicemedia 3 years ago
jorge perez deja de hacer cagadas en el mundial que nos haces quedar a los argentinos como lentos
ayrtonmcrae 3 years ago
a fondo dani!!
24rancing 3 years ago
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Daniel Sordo is a stupid ass and Loeb too
mymylu3 4 years ago
Is not necessary insulting these drivers. Im Hirvonen and Latvala's fan, and i dont think like that about Loeb. If loeb were stupid he wouldn't been where he is now. We r just tired watching him winning but now in 2008 will be hard for him.
God Bless you all. Jesus Loves you a LOT
belgref 3 years ago 7
He's good, but annoying and a little arrogant.
Also, he pretty much gets all the breaks--life seems charmed. It's really annoying to watch him win repeatedly just because all his competitors crash out/get unlucky. Yeah, you can say there's no such thing as luck in racing... but try telling that to, say, Subaru...
(Though actually, 2008 season maybe not so charmed anymore!)
WinterAyars 3 years ago
otro le hubiera tirao el coche hacia abajo ¬¬
alpera 4 years ago
A fondo Dani!
CristyC4 4 years ago
ponete bien el cinturon dani jaja
tincho1989 4 years ago
ponete? aprende a avlar
siempresportinguista 4 years ago 2
avlar? que huevos!
joicemedia 3 years ago
Ele devia ter parádo por ali para anularem o troço e fikarem todos os concorrentes com o mesmo tempo atribuido. Ele perdeu mt tempo com akilo!
Nelsonpiquet 5 years ago
a eso se le llama deportividad !! si señor !!
zureanu 5 years ago
Yeah, Sordo wasn't at all happy but he got excluded when the big bosses found it out.
LaFotoAsesina 5 years ago
Yeh, pretty un-safe procedure there, but these guys have only one thing in mind TIME
Jtechnical 5 years ago