GOODBYE WYNDUU2. EVER SINCE CENK STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE TERRIBLE POLICIES OF OBAMA, (JUST AS CENK BASHED BUSH ON A LOT OF THINGS) I'VE HAD A GOOD DEAL MORE RESPECT FOR CENK, AND IT MAKES THE SHOW A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING. CENK IS THE BEST AT DESCRIBING HOW THE BANKS W/THE HELP OF OBAMA ARE RIPPING OF AVERAGE AMERICANS (AND R PRETENDING TO BE DOING THE OPPOSITE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE). CENK IS A GRAD OF WHARTON I BELIEVE, SO IT MAKE SENSE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS AND CAN EXPLAIN IT.
I voted for Obama. He's very good at speeches; I'll never by fooled by him again.
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Ever since Cenk started to bash Obama repeatedly I stopped watching TYT. Now I just wanted to let them know that I will be unsubscribing from the show on youtube and on facebook. Cenk just make me sick now. I can't stand him anymore. If he leaves TYT I will come back again. President Obama is doing the best he can under the circumstances and it just irritates me when someone like this just sits around and point out what is wrong in an unfair way. So goodbye.
A week is wrong, it was a month. I stated it correctly first. 2 million walmart employess getting 35 million dollars is only 17.5 dollars a year, or 1.38 a month. YOU think his salary is too big. So what? With a 400 bill corp, its nothing at all.
@barsense There are 2.1 million WalMaert employees. If we fire the evil high paid CEO, and give all his wages to the employees, this is the math: $35 MILLION DIVIDED BY 2.1 MILLION= $16.67 A YEAR, PER EMPLOYEE, or $16.67 DIVIDED BY 12 MONTHS = $1.38 PER MONTH EXTRA. You are the one who stated WalMart has low profit,, because the CEO got paid a lot! Remember? CEO`s wages are .000083 of revenue. If you spent $100 at walmart, his wages are less than a penny. 8/10ths of one cent. His wage is nothing
They don't care if we figure it out. What are we going to do about it. Obama's encased in SECRET service. What the f*ck does he care who he robs and murders?
The Organisation for Economic and Co-operation and Development [OECD] released the “OECD Health Data 2009” report which compares the health care statistics across OECD countries.
Some of the key points from this study comparing the U.S. health care system with other countries are listed below:
In 2007
On a per capita basis also the U.S. spent the highest with a total of $7,290 which is two-and-half times the OECD average
Ahhhhh, finally waking up! Now go back to every program and plan that Obama and the Democrats have laid out, and look for the false securities, and hope. They have always been in Wall Steet's and the banks back pockets all along. And now they have even them semi trapped into the crony capitalism corner. True Capitalism allows for failures, as well as success,...we have yet to experience real true capitalism,...our big business's have ALWAYS been socialized! Let the customers decide!
@DannySmith300 So we could keep ourselves busy bombing Chechnya, Morocco, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Kazakhstan and Albania, while our currency becomes worthless lesser than toilet paper - and then we could all go bury our head in the sand shouting "USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!". Wait a second, Obama is already busy along those lines. We already have a BUSH clone in the White House. Your wish has come true!
@WhyMeMoFo It's a stupid statement that Paul is a disciple of Ayn Rand. Alan Greenspan, the scumbag who's responsible for all this housing crisis has always been a disciple of Ayn Rand. Furthermore, Ron Paul and Alan Greenspan are each others' arch-nemesis. Nothing could be further from the truth than Paul is disciple of Ayn Rand, given his hatred of Greenspan's (and so Ayn Rand's) philosophy.
@cbhavsar1 I think you are confused. Greenspan`s ties to Rand are undeniable. However, Greenspan made clear his belief in the Gold Standard, in an article originally published in a Rand book. "Gold and Economic Freedom", google if you care to. Belief in Gold as money coincides exactly with Ron Paul, if you have read Paul`s books. Gold as money is a limiting factor in the ability of the Federal Reserve to print money, therefore it makes the Fed useless. But, someone had to run it, so he tried.
@luvcheney1 I'm far from confused, only you're confused (your handle itself shows). I don't care what sham book Greenspan wrote. All actions the bastard took over years speak loud, still haunting with housing mess. Somebody **HAD TO** run murderous Federal Reserve org??? So illegal/criminal war could be kept alive printing more and more junk currency, while unemployment/housing situation imploded back home?? Whole point is that Fed *IS* useless about which Ron Paul cried bloody murder years ago.
@cbhavsar1 It was an article, not a book. Of course, having opinions about him without reading his thoughts is very instructive. Making blind assumptions while villifying a man is sweet. I like Ron Paul, dont get me wrong. However, I read some of his books, so I like him for a reason, I have an idea what he thinks. You are psychic, not needing to see what alan thinks.
@luvcheney1 OK, fine - I concede on the "article not book". Big deal, doesn't really change basic premise of my rant. No, I'm not psychic reading Alan Greenspan's thoughts. To phrase it like immortal words of Pee Wee Herman: "I don't need to read any hollow articles/books Greenspan publishes. I've lived the consequences of his actions."
Obama said that "We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..." An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly would make more sense than Obama. Obama talks so much he can't tell the difference between himself and other voices. No buckwheat, we haven't lost our imaginations or ambitions. We are just sick and tired of you lying to us and trying to divide this country by class.
Ok let me get this straight....so only the people who except the deal will the banks not have to guarantee there mortgage. I guess the people who take the deal will probably believe that they have a chance of survival so you would think that there not to risky a client . And the people who dont take the deal will fold and the bank will still have to cover there mortgage .Dont get me wrong I think the banks are Guilty as charged but this scheme seams to have merit .
@WhyMeMoFo So what you're really saying is that you have nothing to substantiate your previous claim about Paul and you will now proceed to crawl back in the hole you came from.
@WhyMeMoFo You don't have a clue what Paul is about. Paul doesn't even like Ayn Rand all that much. Ayn Rand didn't like libertarians. Paul liked some of her ideas, but overall she was way too militaristic.
Talk about waking up and educating. The joke's still you.
I have read the Obama plan on LA Times and it doesn't mention anything Cenk is saying. In fact, it praises the plan because, though not perfect, it's a step in the right direction. Cenk GOT FIRED from MSNBC because he's very prone to criticize the democritic white house. Seriously, at least give the Obama administration a little bit of praise for the plan.
@Newtttton And you're really expecting a funded mainstream newspaper to tell you the full story? Mainstream channel like MSNBC is a shrill - exact mirror image of Fox. I would take it a badge of honor to be fired from channels like that. I'm giving Cenk full credit for speaking up. It's only a pity that he's forced to do this on an outlet like this.
When I was looking for a home about two years ago they were asking way to much for them for what I saw and I walk away from them. But Obama did give be the $8,000.00 as a first time buyer. But I live in a very small apartment for 14 years and save up $17,000 for my done payment. But if you do not have a good down payment down you have to be stupid.
This is right up there with the AG's deals with banks. In return for a settlement (about $.01/$1.00) no one (homeowners) can't sue banks for fraudulant loans. Oh yea - homeowners with fraudulant loans aren't benefitting from the settlement from banks. Nice - except for homeowners or ex-homeowners. I doubt if most people are aware that state AG's were even involved in deal making.
I'm not sure you can call this helping banking fraud. The loan had meet these criteria:
1) Made before May 2009 (so it's at least 2 /1 yrs old)
2) Current
3) No more than 1 late payment in last year.
So the loan is basically good. If the loan was fraudulently made, I don't see how it would meet these criteria.
Still I think it's a bad idea. Let them default and get free of that absurd amount of debt. And contrary to what the media tells you, homes are still expensive historically.
@codediporpal Why would anyone default that is current on their morgage payments just because they can refinance and get a better deal. If they were going to default they would just do it instead of refinancing.
@barsense they're not defaulting now, but many of them will eventually. What if they have to move? divorce? Many others will later realize the market isn't going to "recover", and decide to rent the same quality home for 1/2 the monthly payment.
Lots of loans were made without checking income like they were supposed to - liars loans. I don't know how many of these people are still stupidly hanging on, but this Obama plan does let banks off the hook for misrepresentation (AKA fraud).
@codediporpal Where is the source for verification of the claim that it let's the banks off the hook ? I spent a couple of hours trying to find verification of this claim and found nothing. Not saying it does not do that just saying I can't find verification of this claim. And the move, divorce argument iis pretty lame that would apply under any circumstances and no one would ever get a loan from anywhere cause it could happen to anyone. LOL Rent for 1/2 WHERE ?
@fatouche99 It is not law if it is not available for public viewing, it is only rumor. And people are not going to bother with refinancing anyway if they are going to default they will just default. The rules for refinancing require proof of ability to pay and they ARE strict now about checking and verifying so if someone can't pay they will not qualify for refinancing so the banks are just losing loans that would give them higher interest.
@barsense Hey. I'm just passing on information that someone gave to me. Maybe it's just a regulatory change that only requires a sign off. He wouldn't give me specifics, but he said that the people he knew at the banks were expecting it to happen. That's all it know. And remember, it's only a law if it's enforced.
@barsense I posted quote from FHFA public statement previously. lenders are granted a waiver on representations and warranties that lenders commit to. just scroll down. google the text with the quote still on. I reads an awful lot like "banks are allowed to lie and won't be held accountable".
1/2 rent in SF. $3/br for a nice 2 br flat. close to $6K all included to buy. Not as extreme elsewhere, but many areas it's still far more sensible to rent.
@barsense a decision on Monday by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MPAC) established by the law to supervise $500 billion in Medicare cuts. MPAC, whose decisions have the force of law, has voted to impose drastic pay cuts on all doctors under Medicare and, by extension, under Medicaid (which tends to follow suit). The cuts will effectively reduce the real pay for specialists by 50% over the next ten years --- including a 25% reduction over the next three years. Obamacare stupid!
@luvcheney1 Doctors pay has always been supplemented in separate legislation called the doctors fix and the same applies now no different than from before.
@barsense You dont remember Obama promised to cut $500 billion from MediCare over the next 10 years? That is where a great deal of the money "came from" to pay the increased costs of Obamacare. The doctor fix was just an annual increase that Obama and the Dems conveniently left out of the picture, to keep the price low. Everyone knew it was missing. You need to pay attention to your own signature position, stupid.
@luvcheney1 backtracking AGAIN, and you call me stupid. LMAO big pharma kicked in 80 billion over the next ten years plus giving a 50% cut on all medicare drugs, ins. companies limited from charging excessive rates to gov. and crack-down on fraud, medicare funding will still increase where it is needed by the people,
@barsense You support less development of drugs that reduce pain, suffering, and help those who want to live. Reducing profit margins of "evil" Big Pharma will simply make those businesses less attractive to greedy investors. As capital flows away from Greedy Big Pharma, less capital available for research and development of new drugs. Currently, "evil" US Big Pharma invented 55% of the 34 OECD nations internationally used drugs, because of our free market. YOU are evil, support pain and death.
@luvcheney1 you're kidding right? defending big pharma? the corporations that deny real medicine because some of it can't turn a profit, how many drugs are designed to actually cure ailments? not many, I'll tell you that, they are designed to prolong the suffering while giving just enough relief to keep the lab rats( ie humans) pumping on the feeder pellet. there are so many advances in medicine that get ignored that make your ethical argument just that an argument and not reality.
@odom602 Because Big Pharma chases profits, it invests where the biggest returns are. That means allocating capital where its greed is satisfied the MOST. So, if $1 billion is invested to make sales to cardiac patients, of whom over 700K die a year, compare THAT to investing $1 billion to make sales to Aids patients, of which only 17K die a year. IF the humane goal is to save as many lives as possible, obviously evil Big Pharma will make the correct choice.
@luvcheney1 LOL, I support the drug co. not being allowed to overcharge the gov at taxpayers expense, Big pharma get's plenty of investment funding from taxpayers thru research grants without overcharging us for medicine.
@barsense CBO in 2004 said the NIH spends about $25 billion TOTAL BUDGET, but US Pharma spends $40 billion on R&D, and the CBO is NOT counting what US Pharma corporations are spending on R&D outside the US. NIH spends money on uneconomic research. Fed Govt spends $225K per dead person (about 10K dead a yr) , and $26 per dead cardiovascular person (about 750K a yr). Business is greedy, therefore wants to save as many lives per dollar as possible. Govt doesnt care, neither do you.
@luvcheney1 Pharma researchers in order to make profits on new drugs, gov funds research to find cures for diseases thru grants not for profit , get over yourself and come back to reality.
@barsense Govt works on the non economic cures. Big Pharma tries to save as many people as possible, because it is more profitable to have as many people as possible as customers. IF your OBJECT is saving the most lives per dollar invested, defund the govt. If you want to stop the highest amount of pain per dollar invested, defund the govt. Leave Big Pharma alone. When left alone, the US Pharma Corps produce 55% of the entire fucking world`s drugs. You prefer FEWER cures, more pain.
@luvcheney1 Big pharma has shown clearly where they stand spending billions to limit generic drug production and lobbyist against generic drug production, it is all about profits for them and it has to be all about profits that is the nature of private industry, competition demands that profits be the biggest concern over all other concerns. Many do need to be about profit but healthcare is one issue where profit should not be the driving factor.
@barsense Of course! Corporations, hospitals, doctors, nurses, Drug manufacturers, medical equipment producers, janitors in those buildings all should be slaves, working for the good of mankind. Investors ought to invest, not for returns on investment, but to "feel good". Hey, when you get this working, let me know.
@barsense When HealthCare is "free" ( to the end user), demand will exceed supply. This imbalance must be addressed, by longer waiting times, or denial of service. Denying very expensive, high tech procedures are fastest way to save money. Per 100,000 people, Dialysis in the US is given 87 times, and in Canada 47. Coronary bypass surgery 203 times in US, 65 times in Canada, Coronary angioplasty 388 times in US, 81 times in Canada. You want to kill people, deny help to the sick.
@luvcheney1 I have many friends in Canada and Australia and some of them live part-time in the US part-time in Canada or Australia and they say the numbers you quote are LIES because they don't wait any longer in Canada or Australia than they do here in America to see a specialist or for any medical care for that matter They like their system a great deal better than our system.
@barsense From OECD dot org. ( 34 industrial nations) a link form Canadian govt site. "Health Canada". Percent of patients waiting for elective surgery ( back pain, cant live normally, hip pain, knee pain, etc) Percent waiting for more than 4 months, US 1%, Canada 12%, Australia 17%, UK 33%. Go fuck yourself stupid.
@luvcheney1 Ok genius, how many total regulations have passed since obama took office compared to bush. YOU NEED TO QUIT LYING! LESS REGULATIONS HAVE PASSED UNDER OBAMA THAN UNDER BUSH IN THE SAME TIME FRAME! GO F*** YOURSELF !
@luvcheney1 DIDN'T THINK I WOULD FACT CHECK YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT OBAMA AND REGULATIONS? GUESS WHAT BEAN COUNTER? ECONOMY IS GROWING WHERE????? THE PRIVATE SECTOR!
@Athruebelief Now, now, You have 2 posts here, and I havent a clue what exactly I said you are replying to. Of course the economy is expanding. The economy is cyclical, and was in the shitter. We would expect expansion, But, we would expect far more expansion, by now, the unemployment rate should be lower and falling faster. Unfortunately, in a year or 1 1/2 it will be time for another downturn. Having say, 8% unemployment when the NEXT recession hits is really going to blow.
@luvcheney1 Losses of coverage helped swell the ranks of uninsured adults in the U.S. to 52 million in 2010, according to a study released today by the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based foundation that says it backs research aimed at expanding and improving care. An additional 73 million adults had difficulties paying for health care and 75 million deferred treatment because they couldn’t afford it, researchers said.
@luvcheney1 President Barack Obama’s health overhaul will provide access to insurance to almost all of the currently uninsured through expansion of the Medicaid program for the poor and through private health plans, said Sara Collins, a study author. Federal subsidies and rules on affordability and mandated benefits will allow many to buy coverage by 2014 when the law is due to take full effect. Of course there are people on the right tha don't want millions of Americans to HAVE healthcare.
@luvcheney1 The numbers underscore the need for this reform, particularly for low- and moderate-income families,” Collins, an economist at the Commonwealth Fund, said yesterday in a telephone interview. “If the law doesn’t move forward, it will be devastating for these families.”
@barsense The was a Dr. Oz healthcare fair a few years ago that went accross the country. Ironically it wasn't just the poor it was also a lot of middle class families who attended (TEXAS HAD A LOT OF MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE W/O COVERAGE) to take advantage of the services,because THEY HAD NO HEALTHCARE COVERAGE.
@Athruebelief In a free society, is it odd some people prefer to spend money on things other than health care? I sell cars. I see people all the time buying cars than have NO BUSINESS buying another car. People are stupid. Just because someone doesnt buy health insurance doesnt mean he cant. It means he prefers 150 channels of color TV in 4 rooms, a nice car, a home too big, and too many beers, or whatever. Dont be silly.
@luvcheney1 I like that you said some people. I can agree with that to a point. I wouldn't call people stupid though. Less informed maybe. Seeing that consumers (JOB CREATORS) account for what 70%, i would doubt that kind of statement would go over well with the rest of the business world.
@Athruebelief All countries have people. People can/could work, and have needs, desires. But all nations with humans in them are not rich. Would you disagree with THAT? Something ELSE must differentiate why some nations are rich, and some poor.
@luvcheney1 There are way too many factors why some countries are richer than others. Too many to list on youtube,and would take an overly exhaustive amount of time and research. You have an agenda to destroy,and misinform mostly; so it be prudent for you to devote such time.
@barsense Dropped the subject, again? Nations with Govt health care put price controls, used many times in history, and the supply- demand model is in every textbook. The result is always the same. Shortages. Longer waits, limiting of services rendered are the manifestation of shortages. We see it now, in some doctors refusing MediCare, MediCal patients, because of the price controls of the govt programs. These will be worse, under nationalized care. Results are predictitible.
@luvcheney1 The point is that millions of Americans have no heatlhcare and in countries where I have friends where healthcare is nationalized they do not have the problems you keep sayign they do and my friends that live in countries with nationlized healthcare say that YOU LIE because they like their healthcare and do not have the problems that you mention and that they prefer their healthcare over the system here in America when they are in this country.
@barsense The poor in America get free healthcare for decades, through MediCaid. By definition then, those people without health care can NOT be poor. Therefore, they could buy health care, or health care insurance, if they wanted to. Now of course, stupid people prefer to spend their money on other things, and neglect their own financial future. Obama said 30 mill had no insurance, but some of those qualify for MediCaid, too lazy to apply. Help that 10%, instead entire system.
@luvcheney1 You really are clueless,. we have millions of Americans that work full-time jobs for low pay and no benefits that CAN NOT afford health insurance that do not qualify for medicaid. We have several million small biz owners in low profit margin service industries that work long hours and work very hard that can not afford healthcare. And we need people to do these jobs so Face reality
@barsense Those who do not qualify for MediCaid by definition are not poor. Lets keep in mind a few facts. The things in the US that have prices that are/ were out of control have heavy govt involvement. Health Care was already 50% govt BEFORE Obama. Subsidy allowed costs to explode, fucking the people you whine about. College subsidized loans exploded college. Govt Fannie Mae, Freddie loans exploded the housing markets. Govt fucked the folks.
@luvcheney1 LOL. privatizing always costs more cause then we have to pay ceo's multi- million dollar salaries. The United States spends much more money on health care than Canada, on both a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.[5] In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.[
@barsense Bet the US spends more on cars, wide screen TV`s, beer, dog food, too. We are a rich nation. Wouldnt you suppose a rich nation, spending money on it health makes sense? What ought I think has a higher priority than my health care? What a dunce. Spending on our health is the best place to spend.
@luvcheney1 I agree spending on healthcare should take priority , but most of those who can not afford healthcare do need a car for transporation to work, most don't have wide screen TV's at least none of those that I know do. some do spend on dog food for their kids pets though and some do drink beer occassionally. But what they spend on dog food and beer each month would not pay for health insurance.
@barsense You bitch the US spends the most on healthcare. Why? Libs NEVER bitch we spend the most on education! Your point is people cant afford health care. Just passing the cost to someone else fails to address that. Health care is expensive because it is all 3rd party pay, and nobody shops around, or gives a fuck about the price. If I made all restaurants give free meals to all, regardless of what you ordered, I promise you people would spend far more. Surprised? How can you be? Its FREE!
@barsense I can understand disagreeing. I dont mind if you swear and curse. You can call me names. But, you show your total inability to refute logic. Is your argument that empty? 50% of the Health market was Govt ins in MediCare, MediCaid, and local programs for the poor. The rest (except Obama`s 30 million uninsured) get it from work. Few pay their own way. So, way over 50% pay nothing, and eat the most expensive product at the buffet, not caring what they spill on the floor. Every day.
@luvcheney1 You spouted a bunch of nonsense not worthy of a response other than BULLSHIT because that is what is was. And insurance is offered in lieu of wage increases and is only partially covered by most employers and employees are always aware of the cost especially as most of them have money taken from their checks for their insurance. LMAO
@barsense Insurance is given to the old, and the poor, and many retired. Of those who do pay, from work a percentage, they copays of today are insignificant in relation to service, especially for expensive procedures. Compare THAT to the 20%/ 80% indemnity coverage most common, before Govt got hold of the fucking system. If your Doctor wanted you to get an MRI at a cost of $1000, you need $200, and might just wait and get better. But, if your copay is $10, or $30, who cares? THAT raises costs.
@luvcheney1 LOL. you might just wait and get better, or you might just wait and get worse. Most emergency rooms docs have repeatedly reported that people waiting and putting off due to lack of income is one of the largest factors in creating increased costs. Instead of medicating for an infection easily cured many wind up due to putting it off in hopes of getting better in critical condition requiring hosptilization.
@barsense Sure, we actually CAN offer unlimited medical procedures to everyone all the time, regardless of the cost. As long as YOU and YOUR Lib friends dont have to pay.
@luvcheney1 Be cheaper for all of us that pay a lot of taxes and can afford insurance, etc. emergency room service is the most expensive form of medical care available and cost is passed from those that can NOT pay to those of us that can pay.
@barsense What kind of moron demands someone else work for free? Giving away their products, and services? If we required auto dealerships to give new cars to anyone who showed up, what would happen? Everyone who shows up at WalMart gets whatever they want, without money? What kind of animal THINKS hospitals should serve those who wont pay? Doctors should work for free? Investors invest, for nothing. Pathetic retards.
@barsense You said, emergency room care "is passed from those that can NOT pay to those of us that can pay.". First, the hospital MUST work, without prospect of being paid. By LAW. That`s fair? Working for NOTHING? Oh, so naturally, they raise prices on other services, to compensate. So then, I get to pay for my care, and had to work for free, to pay for some asshole who wont take care of himself. Thats fair? But you think I should be taxed instead to pay for that asshole. Whats the difference?
@luvcheney1 DUH, that is why it would be less expensive to subsidize healthcare for us that do pay. And fair has little to do with it , common decency and concern for fellow Americans and a desire to not have diseases in this country like third world countries that do not even have emergency room service for the poor deal with. those that work for minimum wage and can't afford healthcare or needed because that is how others acquire wealth paying low wages raking in profits.
@barsense Low wages do not equate with high profits. When a corp pays low wages, and makes high ptofits, greed attracts more capital to the industry, or location where high profits happen. Then, the added supply brings profit margins down. Low wages mean low prices eventually. Profit always gravitates to normal. Dummy. Low wage WalMart only makes 3.8% profit.
@barsense Explain WalMart`s 3.8% after tax profit? Theyre famous for low wages. Suppose labor is free somewhere (just pretend). A lot of greedy corporations will open factories there, make a lot of money? Yes? Other greedy will want to get rich too, and more and more will keep coming, as long as huge profit is there. Then the market saturates with production, the oversupply puts pressure for corps to cut prices, to maintain marker share, soon profit normal again. Lower cost ALWAYS passes through
@luvcheney1 LMAO Walmart CEO Michael Duke's $35 million salary, when converted to an hourly wage, worked out to $16,826.92. By comparison, at a Walmart store planned for the Windy City's Pullman neighborhood, new employees to be paid $8.75 an hour would gross $13,650 a year. And industry average after tax profit after paying ceo's multi-million dollar salaries is 3.38% but let's look at the profIt BEFORE paying multi-million dollar salaries to ceo's. LOL
@barsense OK, lets look! 2010 WalMart has $421.9 Billion revenue. If his salary is $35 mill, thats .000083 of revenue. WM net profit was $16.389 bill. If we put $35 mill back on, net WOULD be $16.424 bill instead. WalMart profit was 3.8846%, and if we pay that horrible man zero, it would be 3.893%. Hey stupid, dont you have a fucking calculator? I suggest you go to WalMart, and buy one. They dont make shit, any way you calculate it.
@barsense Excuse me? $35 million back into profit makes it 1624 million in profit, from $1639 million in profit. Revenue was 421 BILLION. 35 million isnt anything. WalMart has 2.1 million employees. If we gave every penny to WalMart employees, each one would get $1.38 a month more. Of course, nobody would be running the company.
@luvcheney1 Divide 35 million between 2.1 million employees each year and that is close to 1.6 million for each employee each year. I am being really generous here in light of your totally unbelievably ridiculous statement regarding 1.38 an hour by even bothering to respond, but it comes up to at least 769.23 an hour if the employee worked a full 52 weeks at 40 hours every week.
@luvcheney1 LOL even worse you actually quoted 1.38 a week not an hour. I begin to feel sorry for you as I believe you must be severely mentally challanged , 1.6 million each each year comes up to over 769.00 an hour not 1.38 a week. I shall waste no more time responding to your foolishness. Goodbye , I wish you well but you really need some help.
@luvcheney1 Sorry but if you actually understood the true stats you would realize it is people like you who have not only fucked yourself but fucked all Americans.
@barsense All these "awful" stats you give happen to be after the fact! MediCare came into being in the `60`s! Govt became 50% BEFORE Obamacare! Before all of this, healthcare was far, far cheaper. WW2 Fed Govt price controls got healthcare insurance put onto our jobs, which is a stupid, cruel system, because lose your job, lose coverage. Govt caused this. High prices AFTER Govt subsidized so many. ( in college, home prices too)
@luvcheney1 LMAO, that is the worst excuse for a rebutal I have ever read. Facts are facts, face reality, nationalized healthcare is less expensive than private and it provides healthcare to everyone not just the wealthiestt.
@barsense I guess you dont think that when Govt heavily pays for services in the market on behalf of people who dont have "skin in the game" prices dont rise? Funny, but lasik eye surgery, which govt doesnt pay for has gotten far cheaper. Cosmetic surgery, which govt doesnt pay for also is cheaper. College costs as well.
@luvcheney1 The Affordable Care Act has already saved seniors $460 million in prescription drug costs, according to a report by the Department of Health and Human Services. The law provides a 50 percent discount on name-brand prescription drugs, a change that has benefited more than 900,000 seniors.
@luvcheney1 LOL. Add the patients from the millions of Americans that have no health insurance to the list of the waiting that can't live normally and suffer from PAIN, IDIOT, then go fuck yourself.
@FedupwithR "Is Obama really crooked or is it that he just doesn't understand what he's doing?"
I believe a combination of both, He's a professional politician so he knows of "the game". I think everyone around him is playing it better, and he's cooperating to receive a 2nd term. His history of compromise is bewildering. The man doesn't take a stand for anything. Unless you count the fake War on Terrorism.
From FHFA site about policy: "Waiving certain representations and warranties that lenders commit to in making loans owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac;"
@theyoungturks Thanks Cenk for finally recognizing Obama being worst of all on being run by wall street. He needs that campaign money, got more money from wall st in 08 than any other pres in history...
corp. profits at all time highs due to multiple rds of QE, stimulus, spending... but guess what it isnt "trickling down" to main street, no pun intended...
Allowing average Americans taxpayers who have never missed a mortgage payment but whose home values dropped so that they owe much more than what their homes are worth to refinance at lower interest rates saving them several thousand dollars is helping regular people not the the banks,
Obama pretends to work for citizens but really helps Wall Street has been his MO from the start. This guy believes he can live off his wife but love and give only to his mistress. Typical abusing duplicitous sob. He really has always believed he can serve his sugar daddies and sweet talk his base with BS. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HIM EVER.
@Textynn Like the quote from Godfather, "It's not personal, it's just business". The way our corrupt election system is designed, he just happened to be "the chosen one" and had to play along. No president in recent history could get to where he was without being part of a duplicitous system.
Didn't you do a vid om Perry's Foreclosure plan? Yeah you did, and Perry only wants to speed up the foreclosure process, kick out the homeowners, revamp the houses, and rent them out. You also hinted that Perry was going to basically bailout the banks. At least Obama has been slowing down the process and make some kind of effort in keeping people in their homes.
CHENK, I'M GOING TO BLOW THIS 911 THING OPEN SINGLE HANDED. YOU KNOW....DITKA STYLE!!! I'M A MASTER METALLURGIST AND I HAVE THE VID, THE WITNESSES THAT WILL BLOWWWW YOUR MIND. YOUR RATINGS WILL GO UP HIGHER THAN EVER FOR THIS DEBATE. BUT. YOU'RE FINISHED. YOU WILL BE EXPOSED AS A GATEKEEPER FOR, THE BIRTH CERT. COME ON CHENK, BRING THE JOOCREW WITH YA. I WANNA' WATCH THEM PANIC AND CALL ME NAMES. GOY GONE WILD. HAHAHAHA. HEY CHENK, I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, YOU'VE ONLY CONNED. KERNING
@xteric1 Where have you been? They've been pulling this for at least 2 decades with same outrageous monetary policy, while American population has been comatose on a steady diet of Hollywood + NFL. (Actually, some of them also had been busy enjoying stock-market and housing bubbles those policies created.)
people, don't you see yet? if chenk was still at msnbc he would be telling you how great obamas plan it. if he were HONEST, he would ask about an aluminum tube slicing through steel and concrete building. total b.s. the media was 100% involved. chenk is in the plan they have all the media cats on but particular beck, alex jones, chenk, they have assigned these guys as their internet army to tell you 95% truth, then on the critical, robbery for zoinists, they lie and will even cry for ya
Where are all of the attorneys who could make a fortune suing these banks? I don't get the stalemate here. Why isn't the profit motive working in this case? It just doesn't make any sense. Very frustrating to see the banks having all the time in the world to execute new schemes.
Al Gore is benefiting from US gov't giving a 529MILLION USD loan to Fisker car company, to build 'Fisker Karma', which will get 20m/pg (like a gas guzzling SUV).
They are OUTSOURCING the car manufacturing to Finland. The car will cost 90,000USD (for the rich).
AL GORE. Hey, Cenk, how about THESE NEWS? Not too difficult to report?
@RealityGrapple The conspiracy theory side of your point of view is just utterly inane since the types of organizations that supposedly wield power in the clandestine groups you mention don't need to be secretive about their activities since they have a legal blackwall that was built by the Supreme Court.
Now people from your camp, Birch society splinters and Communist hunters, would command some level of respect if you didn't support such a sectarian end game where strife is enshrined.
LOL!!!! Can I smell the Irony in the air? First, these fuckers complain about "how Obama is headed us in the wrong direction(socialism)". Now, it seems like he's embracing capitalism(what they ask for), and now people complaining about that too. Can I say....fuckers always shoot their self in the foot,in the long run.
The republicans could easily fix this. Democrats are stupid and so are progressives.
H8rH8rMstrb8r 1 week ago
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MrChatItOut 1 month ago
GOODBYE WYNDUU2. EVER SINCE CENK STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE TERRIBLE POLICIES OF OBAMA, (JUST AS CENK BASHED BUSH ON A LOT OF THINGS) I'VE HAD A GOOD DEAL MORE RESPECT FOR CENK, AND IT MAKES THE SHOW A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING. CENK IS THE BEST AT DESCRIBING HOW THE BANKS W/THE HELP OF OBAMA ARE RIPPING OF AVERAGE AMERICANS (AND R PRETENDING TO BE DOING THE OPPOSITE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE). CENK IS A GRAD OF WHARTON I BELIEVE, SO IT MAKE SENSE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS AND CAN EXPLAIN IT.
dustbowlsammie 1 month ago
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I voted for Obama. He's very good at speeches; I'll never by fooled by him again.
“An enemy at the gates is known and carries his banner openly. The traitor speaks in accents familiar to his victims, he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. The traitor is the plague.”
bkuhn81 2 months ago
Occupy everywhere
occupytheworld22 3 months ago 2
Change..what change?? LMAO.
SummerInTahoe 3 months ago
a true sale was never performed into the securitized pool
ForeclosureMD 3 months ago
Obama can't help, but we will. ww w. StopForeclosure .LA or call us a 888 ***255***9999
You must sue the bank to prove they do not have standing in order to foreclose. End of story...you must be able to prove it with evidence. A securitization audit will show the lien was never perfected, a true sale was performed into the securitized pool. Visit us and ask your questions. Become informed and then take action. Upside down or in foreclosure. You do not have to be late to defend yourselves
ForeclosureMD 3 months ago
Ever since Cenk started to bash Obama repeatedly I stopped watching TYT. Now I just wanted to let them know that I will be unsubscribing from the show on youtube and on facebook. Cenk just make me sick now. I can't stand him anymore. If he leaves TYT I will come back again. President Obama is doing the best he can under the circumstances and it just irritates me when someone like this just sits around and point out what is wrong in an unfair way. So goodbye.
wynduu2 3 months ago
@wynduu2 yeah right your living in disneyland if you don't realize. Also, he is not just sitting around go check out wolf-pac.com
raiseup151z 3 months ago
A week is wrong, it was a month. I stated it correctly first. 2 million walmart employess getting 35 million dollars is only 17.5 dollars a year, or 1.38 a month. YOU think his salary is too big. So what? With a 400 bill corp, its nothing at all.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 lOL, 1.6 MILLION a year per employee comes up to over 769.00 an hour.
You need to take some serious math tutoring or just stop attempting to do Math .
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense There are 2.1 million WalMaert employees. If we fire the evil high paid CEO, and give all his wages to the employees, this is the math: $35 MILLION DIVIDED BY 2.1 MILLION= $16.67 A YEAR, PER EMPLOYEE, or $16.67 DIVIDED BY 12 MONTHS = $1.38 PER MONTH EXTRA. You are the one who stated WalMart has low profit,, because the CEO got paid a lot! Remember? CEO`s wages are .000083 of revenue. If you spent $100 at walmart, his wages are less than a penny. 8/10ths of one cent. His wage is nothing
luvcheney1 3 months ago
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Obomba, you're like a backwards Santa Claus. You buy yourself gifts with other people's money.
Close that bomb closet! Those aren't your toys.
eastariel 3 months ago
They don't care if we figure it out. What are we going to do about it. Obama's encased in SECRET service. What the f*ck does he care who he robs and murders?
danielvincentkelley 3 months ago
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The Organisation for Economic and Co-operation and Development [OECD] released the “OECD Health Data 2009” report which compares the health care statistics across OECD countries.
Some of the key points from this study comparing the U.S. health care system with other countries are listed below:
In 2007
On a per capita basis also the U.S. spent the highest with a total of $7,290 which is two-and-half times the OECD average
barsense 3 months ago
Ahhhhh, finally waking up! Now go back to every program and plan that Obama and the Democrats have laid out, and look for the false securities, and hope. They have always been in Wall Steet's and the banks back pockets all along. And now they have even them semi trapped into the crony capitalism corner. True Capitalism allows for failures, as well as success,...we have yet to experience real true capitalism,...our big business's have ALWAYS been socialized! Let the customers decide!
VintageAutoRadio 4 months ago
Just goes to show Obama is just another corporate shill!
Shonenut213 4 months ago
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Athruebelief 4 months ago
WE WANT BUSH BACK
DannySmith300 4 months ago
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cbhavsar1 4 months ago
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@DannySmith300 So we could keep ourselves busy bombing Chechnya, Morocco, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Kazakhstan and Albania, while our currency becomes worthless lesser than toilet paper - and then we could all go bury our head in the sand shouting "USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!". Wait a second, Obama is already busy along those lines. We already have a BUSH clone in the White House. Your wish has come true!
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
So who should be vote for Cenk? Should we just not vote at all. Cenk, give us an alternative please!
ViciousOneWon 4 months ago
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@WhyMeMoFo It's a stupid statement that Paul is a disciple of Ayn Rand. Alan Greenspan, the scumbag who's responsible for all this housing crisis has always been a disciple of Ayn Rand. Furthermore, Ron Paul and Alan Greenspan are each others' arch-nemesis. Nothing could be further from the truth than Paul is disciple of Ayn Rand, given his hatred of Greenspan's (and so Ayn Rand's) philosophy.
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
@cbhavsar1 I think you are confused. Greenspan`s ties to Rand are undeniable. However, Greenspan made clear his belief in the Gold Standard, in an article originally published in a Rand book. "Gold and Economic Freedom", google if you care to. Belief in Gold as money coincides exactly with Ron Paul, if you have read Paul`s books. Gold as money is a limiting factor in the ability of the Federal Reserve to print money, therefore it makes the Fed useless. But, someone had to run it, so he tried.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 I'm far from confused, only you're confused (your handle itself shows). I don't care what sham book Greenspan wrote. All actions the bastard took over years speak loud, still haunting with housing mess. Somebody **HAD TO** run murderous Federal Reserve org??? So illegal/criminal war could be kept alive printing more and more junk currency, while unemployment/housing situation imploded back home?? Whole point is that Fed *IS* useless about which Ron Paul cried bloody murder years ago.
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
@cbhavsar1 It was an article, not a book. Of course, having opinions about him without reading his thoughts is very instructive. Making blind assumptions while villifying a man is sweet. I like Ron Paul, dont get me wrong. However, I read some of his books, so I like him for a reason, I have an idea what he thinks. You are psychic, not needing to see what alan thinks.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 OK, fine - I concede on the "article not book". Big deal, doesn't really change basic premise of my rant. No, I'm not psychic reading Alan Greenspan's thoughts. To phrase it like immortal words of Pee Wee Herman: "I don't need to read any hollow articles/books Greenspan publishes. I've lived the consequences of his actions."
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
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Obama is a piece of sh it. USA blackmails UNESCO agains the Palestina.
Disgusting.
Tetsuoha 4 months ago
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Obama said that "We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..." An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly would make more sense than Obama. Obama talks so much he can't tell the difference between himself and other voices. No buckwheat, we haven't lost our imaginations or ambitions. We are just sick and tired of you lying to us and trying to divide this country by class.
dkkght46 4 months ago
Republicans? Democrats? Is there really a difference?
pooyan6969 4 months ago 5
@pooyan6969 There used to be, but not anymore.
Stingerbillion 3 months ago
My bad, I meant CAPE. However, your answer clarifies what I intended to ask.
trinikagekavir 4 months ago
Our elected officials are playing with fire.
guardian85234 4 months ago 14
Obama is not a democrat. I know that's not news to anyone. Go Ron Paul!
Stanger182 4 months ago
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Financial Enemy of Greece, Ireland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, & USA - Jew
1.Goldman Sachs CEO, Lyold Blankfein -Jew
2.IMF Deputy CEO, John Lisky - Jew
3.Ex IMF CEO, Dominic Strauss -Jew
4.World Bank CEO, Robert Zoellick -Jew
5.Ex World Bank CEO, James Woolfesen -Jew
6.Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke -Jew
7.Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan - Jew
8.Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner- Jew
9.George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson - Jew
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this guy is so fuckin lame smh kill yourself plz
Ballaboy2523 4 months ago
Ok let me get this straight....so only the people who except the deal will the banks not have to guarantee there mortgage. I guess the people who take the deal will probably believe that they have a chance of survival so you would think that there not to risky a client . And the people who dont take the deal will fold and the bank will still have to cover there mortgage .Dont get me wrong I think the banks are Guilty as charged but this scheme seams to have merit .
hartstarter 4 months ago
Obama is a sick joke.
Munnchbunnch 4 months ago 11
@WhyMeMoFo So what you're really saying is that you have nothing to substantiate your previous claim about Paul and you will now proceed to crawl back in the hole you came from.
So be it.
painet1776 4 months ago
@WhyMeMoFo You don't have a clue what Paul is about. Paul doesn't even like Ayn Rand all that much. Ayn Rand didn't like libertarians. Paul liked some of her ideas, but overall she was way too militaristic.
Talk about waking up and educating. The joke's still you.
painet1776 4 months ago
I have read the Obama plan on LA Times and it doesn't mention anything Cenk is saying. In fact, it praises the plan because, though not perfect, it's a step in the right direction. Cenk GOT FIRED from MSNBC because he's very prone to criticize the democritic white house. Seriously, at least give the Obama administration a little bit of praise for the plan.
Newtttton 4 months ago
@Newtttton And you're really expecting a funded mainstream newspaper to tell you the full story? Mainstream channel like MSNBC is a shrill - exact mirror image of Fox. I would take it a badge of honor to be fired from channels like that. I'm giving Cenk full credit for speaking up. It's only a pity that he's forced to do this on an outlet like this.
cbhavsar1 4 months ago 2
Obama in 2012 because lets face it. He is our only hope. lmao
DTA550 4 months ago
When I was looking for a home about two years ago they were asking way to much for them for what I saw and I walk away from them. But Obama did give be the $8,000.00 as a first time buyer. But I live in a very small apartment for 14 years and save up $17,000 for my done payment. But if you do not have a good down payment down you have to be stupid.
sonofatiger 4 months ago
Obama is pissing me off more and more
Gr4yW0rld 4 months ago
Why do Obama's ADVISERS suddenly represent what Obama thinks?
madjimms 4 months ago
This is right up there with the AG's deals with banks. In return for a settlement (about $.01/$1.00) no one (homeowners) can't sue banks for fraudulant loans. Oh yea - homeowners with fraudulant loans aren't benefitting from the settlement from banks. Nice - except for homeowners or ex-homeowners. I doubt if most people are aware that state AG's were even involved in deal making.
aikanae1 4 months ago
@WhyMeMoFo I wish you would substantiate your claim. As of right now, you're the joke.
painet1776 4 months ago
iumm am i the only one hoping bernie sanders will run against obama?
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I'm not sure you can call this helping banking fraud. The loan had meet these criteria:
1) Made before May 2009 (so it's at least 2 /1 yrs old)
2) Current
3) No more than 1 late payment in last year.
So the loan is basically good. If the loan was fraudulently made, I don't see how it would meet these criteria.
Still I think it's a bad idea. Let them default and get free of that absurd amount of debt. And contrary to what the media tells you, homes are still expensive historically.
codediporpal 4 months ago
@codediporpal Why would anyone default that is current on their morgage payments just because they can refinance and get a better deal. If they were going to default they would just do it instead of refinancing.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense they're not defaulting now, but many of them will eventually. What if they have to move? divorce? Many others will later realize the market isn't going to "recover", and decide to rent the same quality home for 1/2 the monthly payment.
Lots of loans were made without checking income like they were supposed to - liars loans. I don't know how many of these people are still stupidly hanging on, but this Obama plan does let banks off the hook for misrepresentation (AKA fraud).
codediporpal 4 months ago
@codediporpal Where is the source for verification of the claim that it let's the banks off the hook ? I spent a couple of hours trying to find verification of this claim and found nothing. Not saying it does not do that just saying I can't find verification of this claim. And the move, divorce argument iis pretty lame that would apply under any circumstances and no one would ever get a loan from anywhere cause it could happen to anyone. LOL Rent for 1/2 WHERE ?
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense It's true, but you won't find it anywhere. My friend works at the Treasury and he said the banks are very excited about this new provision.
fatouche99 4 months ago
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@fatouche99 Your friend is a soulless person who should be shot.
Clanki 4 months ago
@fatouche99 It is not law if it is not available for public viewing, it is only rumor. And people are not going to bother with refinancing anyway if they are going to default they will just default. The rules for refinancing require proof of ability to pay and they ARE strict now about checking and verifying so if someone can't pay they will not qualify for refinancing so the banks are just losing loans that would give them higher interest.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense Hey. I'm just passing on information that someone gave to me. Maybe it's just a regulatory change that only requires a sign off. He wouldn't give me specifics, but he said that the people he knew at the banks were expecting it to happen. That's all it know. And remember, it's only a law if it's enforced.
fatouche99 4 months ago
@barsense I posted quote from FHFA public statement previously. lenders are granted a waiver on representations and warranties that lenders commit to. just scroll down. google the text with the quote still on. I reads an awful lot like "banks are allowed to lie and won't be held accountable".
1/2 rent in SF. $3/br for a nice 2 br flat. close to $6K all included to buy. Not as extreme elsewhere, but many areas it's still far more sensible to rent.
codediporpal 4 months ago
@barsense a decision on Monday by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MPAC) established by the law to supervise $500 billion in Medicare cuts. MPAC, whose decisions have the force of law, has voted to impose drastic pay cuts on all doctors under Medicare and, by extension, under Medicaid (which tends to follow suit). The cuts will effectively reduce the real pay for specialists by 50% over the next ten years --- including a 25% reduction over the next three years. Obamacare stupid!
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Doctors pay has always been supplemented in separate legislation called the doctors fix and the same applies now no different than from before.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense You dont remember Obama promised to cut $500 billion from MediCare over the next 10 years? That is where a great deal of the money "came from" to pay the increased costs of Obamacare. The doctor fix was just an annual increase that Obama and the Dems conveniently left out of the picture, to keep the price low. Everyone knew it was missing. You need to pay attention to your own signature position, stupid.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 backtracking AGAIN, and you call me stupid. LMAO big pharma kicked in 80 billion over the next ten years plus giving a 50% cut on all medicare drugs, ins. companies limited from charging excessive rates to gov. and crack-down on fraud, medicare funding will still increase where it is needed by the people,
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense You support less development of drugs that reduce pain, suffering, and help those who want to live. Reducing profit margins of "evil" Big Pharma will simply make those businesses less attractive to greedy investors. As capital flows away from Greedy Big Pharma, less capital available for research and development of new drugs. Currently, "evil" US Big Pharma invented 55% of the 34 OECD nations internationally used drugs, because of our free market. YOU are evil, support pain and death.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 you're kidding right? defending big pharma? the corporations that deny real medicine because some of it can't turn a profit, how many drugs are designed to actually cure ailments? not many, I'll tell you that, they are designed to prolong the suffering while giving just enough relief to keep the lab rats( ie humans) pumping on the feeder pellet. there are so many advances in medicine that get ignored that make your ethical argument just that an argument and not reality.
odom602 4 months ago
@odom602 Because Big Pharma chases profits, it invests where the biggest returns are. That means allocating capital where its greed is satisfied the MOST. So, if $1 billion is invested to make sales to cardiac patients, of whom over 700K die a year, compare THAT to investing $1 billion to make sales to Aids patients, of which only 17K die a year. IF the humane goal is to save as many lives as possible, obviously evil Big Pharma will make the correct choice.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL, I support the drug co. not being allowed to overcharge the gov at taxpayers expense, Big pharma get's plenty of investment funding from taxpayers thru research grants without overcharging us for medicine.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense CBO in 2004 said the NIH spends about $25 billion TOTAL BUDGET, but US Pharma spends $40 billion on R&D, and the CBO is NOT counting what US Pharma corporations are spending on R&D outside the US. NIH spends money on uneconomic research. Fed Govt spends $225K per dead person (about 10K dead a yr) , and $26 per dead cardiovascular person (about 750K a yr). Business is greedy, therefore wants to save as many lives per dollar as possible. Govt doesnt care, neither do you.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Pharma researchers in order to make profits on new drugs, gov funds research to find cures for diseases thru grants not for profit , get over yourself and come back to reality.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense Govt works on the non economic cures. Big Pharma tries to save as many people as possible, because it is more profitable to have as many people as possible as customers. IF your OBJECT is saving the most lives per dollar invested, defund the govt. If you want to stop the highest amount of pain per dollar invested, defund the govt. Leave Big Pharma alone. When left alone, the US Pharma Corps produce 55% of the entire fucking world`s drugs. You prefer FEWER cures, more pain.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Big pharma has shown clearly where they stand spending billions to limit generic drug production and lobbyist against generic drug production, it is all about profits for them and it has to be all about profits that is the nature of private industry, competition demands that profits be the biggest concern over all other concerns. Many do need to be about profit but healthcare is one issue where profit should not be the driving factor.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense Of course! Corporations, hospitals, doctors, nurses, Drug manufacturers, medical equipment producers, janitors in those buildings all should be slaves, working for the good of mankind. Investors ought to invest, not for returns on investment, but to "feel good". Hey, when you get this working, let me know.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Nationalized healthcare works very well in Canada and Australia, I don't have to get it working they already have. LMAO
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense When HealthCare is "free" ( to the end user), demand will exceed supply. This imbalance must be addressed, by longer waiting times, or denial of service. Denying very expensive, high tech procedures are fastest way to save money. Per 100,000 people, Dialysis in the US is given 87 times, and in Canada 47. Coronary bypass surgery 203 times in US, 65 times in Canada, Coronary angioplasty 388 times in US, 81 times in Canada. You want to kill people, deny help to the sick.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 I have many friends in Canada and Australia and some of them live part-time in the US part-time in Canada or Australia and they say the numbers you quote are LIES because they don't wait any longer in Canada or Australia than they do here in America to see a specialist or for any medical care for that matter They like their system a great deal better than our system.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense From OECD dot org. ( 34 industrial nations) a link form Canadian govt site. "Health Canada". Percent of patients waiting for elective surgery ( back pain, cant live normally, hip pain, knee pain, etc) Percent waiting for more than 4 months, US 1%, Canada 12%, Australia 17%, UK 33%. Go fuck yourself stupid.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Ok genius, how many total regulations have passed since obama took office compared to bush. YOU NEED TO QUIT LYING! LESS REGULATIONS HAVE PASSED UNDER OBAMA THAN UNDER BUSH IN THE SAME TIME FRAME! GO F*** YOURSELF !
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 DIDN'T THINK I WOULD FACT CHECK YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT OBAMA AND REGULATIONS? GUESS WHAT BEAN COUNTER? ECONOMY IS GROWING WHERE????? THE PRIVATE SECTOR!
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@Athruebelief Now, now, You have 2 posts here, and I havent a clue what exactly I said you are replying to. Of course the economy is expanding. The economy is cyclical, and was in the shitter. We would expect expansion, But, we would expect far more expansion, by now, the unemployment rate should be lower and falling faster. Unfortunately, in a year or 1 1/2 it will be time for another downturn. Having say, 8% unemployment when the NEXT recession hits is really going to blow.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Losses of coverage helped swell the ranks of uninsured adults in the U.S. to 52 million in 2010, according to a study released today by the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based foundation that says it backs research aimed at expanding and improving care. An additional 73 million adults had difficulties paying for health care and 75 million deferred treatment because they couldn’t afford it, researchers said.
barsense 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 President Barack Obama’s health overhaul will provide access to insurance to almost all of the currently uninsured through expansion of the Medicaid program for the poor and through private health plans, said Sara Collins, a study author. Federal subsidies and rules on affordability and mandated benefits will allow many to buy coverage by 2014 when the law is due to take full effect. Of course there are people on the right tha don't want millions of Americans to HAVE healthcare.
barsense 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 The numbers underscore the need for this reform, particularly for low- and moderate-income families,” Collins, an economist at the Commonwealth Fund, said yesterday in a telephone interview. “If the law doesn’t move forward, it will be devastating for these families.”
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense The was a Dr. Oz healthcare fair a few years ago that went accross the country. Ironically it wasn't just the poor it was also a lot of middle class families who attended (TEXAS HAD A LOT OF MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE W/O COVERAGE) to take advantage of the services,because THEY HAD NO HEALTHCARE COVERAGE.
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@Athruebelief In a free society, is it odd some people prefer to spend money on things other than health care? I sell cars. I see people all the time buying cars than have NO BUSINESS buying another car. People are stupid. Just because someone doesnt buy health insurance doesnt mean he cant. It means he prefers 150 channels of color TV in 4 rooms, a nice car, a home too big, and too many beers, or whatever. Dont be silly.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 I like that you said some people. I can agree with that to a point. I wouldn't call people stupid though. Less informed maybe. Seeing that consumers (JOB CREATORS) account for what 70%, i would doubt that kind of statement would go over well with the rest of the business world.
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@Athruebelief Wealth creation comes from increased productivity, and that requires Capital, and ideas. Labor is a raw material.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 Keep believing people not buying anything will create wealth mysteriously. LMAO! Your funny,truly!
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@Athruebelief All countries have people. People can/could work, and have needs, desires. But all nations with humans in them are not rich. Would you disagree with THAT? Something ELSE must differentiate why some nations are rich, and some poor.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 There are way too many factors why some countries are richer than others. Too many to list on youtube,and would take an overly exhaustive amount of time and research. You have an agenda to destroy,and misinform mostly; so it be prudent for you to devote such time.
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@barsense Dropped the subject, again? Nations with Govt health care put price controls, used many times in history, and the supply- demand model is in every textbook. The result is always the same. Shortages. Longer waits, limiting of services rendered are the manifestation of shortages. We see it now, in some doctors refusing MediCare, MediCal patients, because of the price controls of the govt programs. These will be worse, under nationalized care. Results are predictitible.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 The point is that millions of Americans have no heatlhcare and in countries where I have friends where healthcare is nationalized they do not have the problems you keep sayign they do and my friends that live in countries with nationlized healthcare say that YOU LIE because they like their healthcare and do not have the problems that you mention and that they prefer their healthcare over the system here in America when they are in this country.
barsense 4 months ago
@barsense The poor in America get free healthcare for decades, through MediCaid. By definition then, those people without health care can NOT be poor. Therefore, they could buy health care, or health care insurance, if they wanted to. Now of course, stupid people prefer to spend their money on other things, and neglect their own financial future. Obama said 30 mill had no insurance, but some of those qualify for MediCaid, too lazy to apply. Help that 10%, instead entire system.
luvcheney1 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 You really are clueless,. we have millions of Americans that work full-time jobs for low pay and no benefits that CAN NOT afford health insurance that do not qualify for medicaid. We have several million small biz owners in low profit margin service industries that work long hours and work very hard that can not afford healthcare. And we need people to do these jobs so Face reality
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Those who do not qualify for MediCaid by definition are not poor. Lets keep in mind a few facts. The things in the US that have prices that are/ were out of control have heavy govt involvement. Health Care was already 50% govt BEFORE Obama. Subsidy allowed costs to explode, fucking the people you whine about. College subsidized loans exploded college. Govt Fannie Mae, Freddie loans exploded the housing markets. Govt fucked the folks.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL. privatizing always costs more cause then we have to pay ceo's multi- million dollar salaries. The United States spends much more money on health care than Canada, on both a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.[5] In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.[
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Bet the US spends more on cars, wide screen TV`s, beer, dog food, too. We are a rich nation. Wouldnt you suppose a rich nation, spending money on it health makes sense? What ought I think has a higher priority than my health care? What a dunce. Spending on our health is the best place to spend.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 I agree spending on healthcare should take priority , but most of those who can not afford healthcare do need a car for transporation to work, most don't have wide screen TV's at least none of those that I know do. some do spend on dog food for their kids pets though and some do drink beer occassionally. But what they spend on dog food and beer each month would not pay for health insurance.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense You bitch the US spends the most on healthcare. Why? Libs NEVER bitch we spend the most on education! Your point is people cant afford health care. Just passing the cost to someone else fails to address that. Health care is expensive because it is all 3rd party pay, and nobody shops around, or gives a fuck about the price. If I made all restaurants give free meals to all, regardless of what you ordered, I promise you people would spend far more. Surprised? How can you be? Its FREE!
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 BULLSHIT
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense I can understand disagreeing. I dont mind if you swear and curse. You can call me names. But, you show your total inability to refute logic. Is your argument that empty? 50% of the Health market was Govt ins in MediCare, MediCaid, and local programs for the poor. The rest (except Obama`s 30 million uninsured) get it from work. Few pay their own way. So, way over 50% pay nothing, and eat the most expensive product at the buffet, not caring what they spill on the floor. Every day.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 You spouted a bunch of nonsense not worthy of a response other than BULLSHIT because that is what is was. And insurance is offered in lieu of wage increases and is only partially covered by most employers and employees are always aware of the cost especially as most of them have money taken from their checks for their insurance. LMAO
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Insurance is given to the old, and the poor, and many retired. Of those who do pay, from work a percentage, they copays of today are insignificant in relation to service, especially for expensive procedures. Compare THAT to the 20%/ 80% indemnity coverage most common, before Govt got hold of the fucking system. If your Doctor wanted you to get an MRI at a cost of $1000, you need $200, and might just wait and get better. But, if your copay is $10, or $30, who cares? THAT raises costs.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL. you might just wait and get better, or you might just wait and get worse. Most emergency rooms docs have repeatedly reported that people waiting and putting off due to lack of income is one of the largest factors in creating increased costs. Instead of medicating for an infection easily cured many wind up due to putting it off in hopes of getting better in critical condition requiring hosptilization.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Sure, we actually CAN offer unlimited medical procedures to everyone all the time, regardless of the cost. As long as YOU and YOUR Lib friends dont have to pay.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Be cheaper for all of us that pay a lot of taxes and can afford insurance, etc. emergency room service is the most expensive form of medical care available and cost is passed from those that can NOT pay to those of us that can pay.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense What kind of moron demands someone else work for free? Giving away their products, and services? If we required auto dealerships to give new cars to anyone who showed up, what would happen? Everyone who shows up at WalMart gets whatever they want, without money? What kind of animal THINKS hospitals should serve those who wont pay? Doctors should work for free? Investors invest, for nothing. Pathetic retards.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL. nationalized healthcare does not require anyone to work for free.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense You said, emergency room care "is passed from those that can NOT pay to those of us that can pay.". First, the hospital MUST work, without prospect of being paid. By LAW. That`s fair? Working for NOTHING? Oh, so naturally, they raise prices on other services, to compensate. So then, I get to pay for my care, and had to work for free, to pay for some asshole who wont take care of himself. Thats fair? But you think I should be taxed instead to pay for that asshole. Whats the difference?
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 DUH, that is why it would be less expensive to subsidize healthcare for us that do pay. And fair has little to do with it , common decency and concern for fellow Americans and a desire to not have diseases in this country like third world countries that do not even have emergency room service for the poor deal with. those that work for minimum wage and can't afford healthcare or needed because that is how others acquire wealth paying low wages raking in profits.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Low wages do not equate with high profits. When a corp pays low wages, and makes high ptofits, greed attracts more capital to the industry, or location where high profits happen. Then, the added supply brings profit margins down. Low wages mean low prices eventually. Profit always gravitates to normal. Dummy. Low wage WalMart only makes 3.8% profit.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL, low wages always equates with more profit. To try and argue otherwise is a waste of time.and quite silly.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Explain WalMart`s 3.8% after tax profit? Theyre famous for low wages. Suppose labor is free somewhere (just pretend). A lot of greedy corporations will open factories there, make a lot of money? Yes? Other greedy will want to get rich too, and more and more will keep coming, as long as huge profit is there. Then the market saturates with production, the oversupply puts pressure for corps to cut prices, to maintain marker share, soon profit normal again. Lower cost ALWAYS passes through
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LMAO Walmart CEO Michael Duke's $35 million salary, when converted to an hourly wage, worked out to $16,826.92. By comparison, at a Walmart store planned for the Windy City's Pullman neighborhood, new employees to be paid $8.75 an hour would gross $13,650 a year. And industry average after tax profit after paying ceo's multi-million dollar salaries is 3.38% but let's look at the profIt BEFORE paying multi-million dollar salaries to ceo's. LOL
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense OK, lets look! 2010 WalMart has $421.9 Billion revenue. If his salary is $35 mill, thats .000083 of revenue. WM net profit was $16.389 bill. If we put $35 mill back on, net WOULD be $16.424 bill instead. WalMart profit was 3.8846%, and if we pay that horrible man zero, it would be 3.893%. Hey stupid, dont you have a fucking calculator? I suggest you go to WalMart, and buy one. They dont make shit, any way you calculate it.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 As usual your math sucks, at 35 million back in stupid and you have 35 million more profit.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Excuse me? $35 million back into profit makes it 1624 million in profit, from $1639 million in profit. Revenue was 421 BILLION. 35 million isnt anything. WalMart has 2.1 million employees. If we gave every penny to WalMart employees, each one would get $1.38 a month more. Of course, nobody would be running the company.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 35 million clear profit is a lot of money, bet you wished you had that. LMAO
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Except I didnt do anything at all to earn it. Are you familiar with the concept of "earning"?
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 I have earned everything that I have, I am sure that you have not.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense Nice try! Explain how not having a CEO, and giving $1.38 a week to each WalMart employee changes anything for the better.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
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barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Divide 35 million between 2.1 million employees each year and that is close to 1.6 million for each employee each year. I am being really generous here in light of your totally unbelievably ridiculous statement regarding 1.38 an hour by even bothering to respond, but it comes up to at least 769.23 an hour if the employee worked a full 52 weeks at 40 hours every week.
barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL even worse you actually quoted 1.38 a week not an hour. I begin to feel sorry for you as I believe you must be severely mentally challanged , 1.6 million each each year comes up to over 769.00 an hour not 1.38 a week. I shall waste no more time responding to your foolishness. Goodbye , I wish you well but you really need some help.
barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Despite spending the most, the U.S. provides health care coverage for only the elderly, disabled and some of the poor people
In comparison, the same amount is enough to provide universal health care insurance by the government for all citizens in other OECD countries
35% of total health care expenditures is done by private health insurance which is the highest In OCED
Despite the high medical expenditure,there are fewer doctors per capita in the U.S. than most other OECD countries
barsense 3 months ago
On a per capita basis also the U.S. spent the highest with a total of $7,290 which is two-and-half times the OECD average
Despite spending the most, the U.S. provides health care coverage for only the elderly, disabled and some of the poor people
In comparison, the same amount is enough to provide universal health care insurance by the government for all citizens in other OECD countries
barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Despite the high medical expenditure,there are fewer doctors per capita in the U.S. than most other OECD countries
Life expectancy in the U.S. is lower when compared with Japan,Switzerland, Canada and Australia
barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Employer-sponsored health insurance premiums have nearly doubled since 2000, a rate three times faster than wages.
In 2008, the average premium for a family plan purchased through an employer was $12,680, nearly the annual earnings of a full-time minimum wage job.
Americans pay more than ever for health insurance, but get less coverage.
barsense 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 Sorry but if you actually understood the true stats you would realize it is people like you who have not only fucked yourself but fucked all Americans.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense All these "awful" stats you give happen to be after the fact! MediCare came into being in the `60`s! Govt became 50% BEFORE Obamacare! Before all of this, healthcare was far, far cheaper. WW2 Fed Govt price controls got healthcare insurance put onto our jobs, which is a stupid, cruel system, because lose your job, lose coverage. Govt caused this. High prices AFTER Govt subsidized so many. ( in college, home prices too)
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 LMAO, that is the worst excuse for a rebutal I have ever read. Facts are facts, face reality, nationalized healthcare is less expensive than private and it provides healthcare to everyone not just the wealthiestt.
barsense 3 months ago
@barsense I guess you dont think that when Govt heavily pays for services in the market on behalf of people who dont have "skin in the game" prices dont rise? Funny, but lasik eye surgery, which govt doesnt pay for has gotten far cheaper. Cosmetic surgery, which govt doesnt pay for also is cheaper. College costs as well.
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@barsense If ObamaCare was making insurance cheaper, why were 1000`s of unions and corporations asking to be excused from joining?
luvcheney1 3 months ago
@luvcheney1 waivers are temporary until the exchanges kick in.
barsense 3 months ago
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@luvcheney1 The Affordable Care Act has already saved seniors $460 million in prescription drug costs, according to a report by the Department of Health and Human Services. The law provides a 50 percent discount on name-brand prescription drugs, a change that has benefited more than 900,000 seniors.
Athruebelief 4 months ago
@luvcheney1 LOL. Add the patients from the millions of Americans that have no health insurance to the list of the waiting that can't live normally and suffer from PAIN, IDIOT, then go fuck yourself.
barsense 4 months ago
why not help before it happens wth
xxdeathx 4 months ago
On the Left side Americans have a republican.
On the Right side Americans have a republican.
Who does a American liberal vote for?
xUesugiKenshinx 4 months ago
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@FedupwithR "Is Obama really crooked or is it that he just doesn't understand what he's doing?"
I believe a combination of both, He's a professional politician so he knows of "the game". I think everyone around him is playing it better, and he's cooperating to receive a 2nd term. His history of compromise is bewildering. The man doesn't take a stand for anything. Unless you count the fake War on Terrorism.
3rd Party Anyone?
krumbumm 4 months ago
From FHFA site about policy: "Waiving certain representations and warranties that lenders commit to in making loans owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac;"
Read: bankers have NO LIABILITY.
codediporpal 4 months ago
Herman Cain jerks off every night to photos of Obama -- wishing he could be as awesome of a black Republican as him.
AssRapingHorseCock 4 months ago
@theyoungturks Thanks Cenk for finally recognizing Obama being worst of all on being run by wall street. He needs that campaign money, got more money from wall st in 08 than any other pres in history...
corp. profits at all time highs due to multiple rds of QE, stimulus, spending... but guess what it isnt "trickling down" to main street, no pun intended...
#Romney'12
olivermayfair 4 months ago
obama should watch tyt
omar12331 4 months ago
The houses are all overpriced anyway.
nljuggalo 4 months ago
Allowing average Americans taxpayers who have never missed a mortgage payment but whose home values dropped so that they owe much more than what their homes are worth to refinance at lower interest rates saving them several thousand dollars is helping regular people not the the banks,
barsense 4 months ago
Obama pretends to work for citizens but really helps Wall Street has been his MO from the start. This guy believes he can live off his wife but love and give only to his mistress. Typical abusing duplicitous sob. He really has always believed he can serve his sugar daddies and sweet talk his base with BS. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HIM EVER.
Textynn 4 months ago
@Textynn Like the quote from Godfather, "It's not personal, it's just business". The way our corrupt election system is designed, he just happened to be "the chosen one" and had to play along. No president in recent history could get to where he was without being part of a duplicitous system.
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
Didn't you do a vid om Perry's Foreclosure plan? Yeah you did, and Perry only wants to speed up the foreclosure process, kick out the homeowners, revamp the houses, and rent them out. You also hinted that Perry was going to basically bailout the banks. At least Obama has been slowing down the process and make some kind of effort in keeping people in their homes.
fungye77 4 months ago
CHENK, I'M GOING TO BLOW THIS 911 THING OPEN SINGLE HANDED. YOU KNOW....DITKA STYLE!!! I'M A MASTER METALLURGIST AND I HAVE THE VID, THE WITNESSES THAT WILL BLOWWWW YOUR MIND. YOUR RATINGS WILL GO UP HIGHER THAN EVER FOR THIS DEBATE. BUT. YOU'RE FINISHED. YOU WILL BE EXPOSED AS A GATEKEEPER FOR, THE BIRTH CERT. COME ON CHENK, BRING THE JOOCREW WITH YA. I WANNA' WATCH THEM PANIC AND CALL ME NAMES. GOY GONE WILD. HAHAHAHA. HEY CHENK, I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, YOU'VE ONLY CONNED. KERNING
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
it's outrageous how they can pull something like this under our noses.
xteric1 4 months ago
@xteric1 Where have you been? They've been pulling this for at least 2 decades with same outrageous monetary policy, while American population has been comatose on a steady diet of Hollywood + NFL. (Actually, some of them also had been busy enjoying stock-market and housing bubbles those policies created.)
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
people, don't you see yet? if chenk was still at msnbc he would be telling you how great obamas plan it. if he were HONEST, he would ask about an aluminum tube slicing through steel and concrete building. total b.s. the media was 100% involved. chenk is in the plan they have all the media cats on but particular beck, alex jones, chenk, they have assigned these guys as their internet army to tell you 95% truth, then on the critical, robbery for zoinists, they lie and will even cry for ya
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
@RealityGrapple Keep grappling, maybe someday you will pin it.
herpiethelovebug 4 months ago
Where are all of the attorneys who could make a fortune suing these banks? I don't get the stalemate here. Why isn't the profit motive working in this case? It just doesn't make any sense. Very frustrating to see the banks having all the time in the world to execute new schemes.
rbauer1632 4 months ago
i do peepee and kaka every day
dAda313 4 months ago
nlpc.org/stories/2011/10/24/was-al-gore-behind-fisker-funding-fiasco
Al Gore is benefiting from US gov't giving a 529MILLION USD loan to Fisker car company, to build 'Fisker Karma', which will get 20m/pg (like a gas guzzling SUV).
They are OUTSOURCING the car manufacturing to Finland. The car will cost 90,000USD (for the rich).
AL GORE. Hey, Cenk, how about THESE NEWS? Not too difficult to report?
romanmir01 4 months ago
hahahah USA is no longer a democracy, its an oligarchy!
omgitsaghiles 4 months ago
@RealityGrapple The conspiracy theory side of your point of view is just utterly inane since the types of organizations that supposedly wield power in the clandestine groups you mention don't need to be secretive about their activities since they have a legal blackwall that was built by the Supreme Court.
Now people from your camp, Birch society splinters and Communist hunters, would command some level of respect if you didn't support such a sectarian end game where strife is enshrined.
inademv 4 months ago
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zachfresh 4 months ago
Funny thing he's doing that around the time he's running for re-election. That's why I say that I thank goodness that I didn't vote at all in 2008.
98bigbutt 4 months ago
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LOL!!!! Can I smell the Irony in the air? First, these fuckers complain about "how Obama is headed us in the wrong direction(socialism)". Now, it seems like he's embracing capitalism(what they ask for), and now people complaining about that too. Can I say....fuckers always shoot their self in the foot,in the long run.
inthelandofnumbnuts 4 months ago
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