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  • Hitler killed 6 mil Jews and the U.S.A killed 49,551,703 from 1973 to 2010. Jan 16 2011 377 baby die.

    America is Paying for GREAT SIN. KICKING GOD OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.There

    is a sudden judgment coming where the Lord will turn everything

    upside down. God always moves in judgment when the cup of violence

    overflows. Sexual crimes? against children, Homosexuals , Abortion,

    greed and corruption will bring about sudden destruction that will

    change the world in one hour.

  • How weird is that all pro-lifers wish that all pro-choicers die and go to hell.

    That only goes to prove that PRO-LIFERS=PRO-DEATH

  • Abortion is women willfully murdering the pre-born baby daughters and sons of men.

  • I thought Hillary was a smart woman. Boy, was I DEAD WRONG! I am appalled, Hillary, that you would fight for the "RIGHT" TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN under the guise of women's freedom/choice!!!! What kind of woman would even try to justify this atrocity!?!?!?! You should KNOW better!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!

  • snatch

  • die Clinton

  • You guys aren't even listening to her words.

    She is bringing up the shortcomings of BOTH sides and she is asking for more dialogue about this issue. Listen to what she said from 3:30 to 3:38.

    Anti-Choice only want it their way. That is why Roe V Wade stills stands because no court will hear a case that has no solutions that will not have cataclysmic consequences for societies, families, doctors, woman and the criminal justice system. Plus, most American are Pro-Choice. The majority rule.

  • "That's why Roe V Wade stills stands..."

    Yes, Roe v. Wade established that the right to privacy, established in Griswold v Conneticut, encompassed the right to an abortion. It also *explicitly* stated that that right did not extend to abortion on demand & that the states had the right to at some point (at the time it was based on trimesters) take the fetus' life into consideration. "Anti-life" (if you want to play it that way) advocates would have a fit if Roe was upheld the way it was written.

  • all liberals are filthy scum. they're all the same. a vote for obama is a vote for every baby-killing Democrat. a vote for mccain is a vote for human dignity and liberty

  • You have no idea.

    The true 'scum' are the people who want to control everyone elses's lives baist on there own personal belifs. A vote for Mccain is a vote for for biggitry. All conservitives do is hate people who arent just like them. It makes me sick just to think you have such hatred in your sole. But you are the only one that suffers, feeling that way towards other people only makes you seem more ignorant.

    OBAMA 08.

  • "All conservatives" How enlightened of you to generalize a massive group of people whom you have not even met 1% of.

    It's the us-or-them mentality that you have, the willingness to make incredibly broad generalizations about people rather than seeing each person as a person, that is destroying our country. Republicans and Democrats are both just part of the problem, and they will remain so as long as they try to try to make their opponents look bad rather than serving America.

  • opii88....I find the comments you apparently embrace fall into the same category of those you abhor. To state that "all conservitives (sp) do is hate people who arent (sp) just like them" is as bigoted as the bigotry which you disapprove. The question would be raised: who really is the bigot now? You don't have to look too far away to find the answer.

  • You are very very wrong if you think Republicans give a damn about stopping abortions. They only say they are pro-life to get votes from mindless sheeple.

  • You said "most America are Pro-Choice. The majority rule." By that logic politicians would get more votes from "mindless sheeple" if they were pro-choice.

  • I hate this woman. Period.

  • Check out Partial Abortions on You tube. We need to kow what is being done in our clinics. Most women would not want this procedure. It is blatant murder. Anyone who hates cruelty to children cannot stay silent on this. These Drs are like those whom performed procedures in the Concentration Camps. They must not be supported in this mass murder. WAKE UP EVERYONE. Have the courage to speak out for children's precious lives.

  • Im pro-life but Hillary, just be honest for once! If your pro-abortion, ( i may not agree) but i can at least respect you for standing up for what you beleive, but to lie like this for a few vote what you have no intention of doing anything is scummy.

  • Ummmm...tell me this...where did the ape come from?

  • Wow!!!! So sad that some of you people really believe that you came from an ape...tell me this...where did the ape come from?

  • Next time, try to use proper grammer. It makes you look smarter.

  • Next time, try to spell G-R-A-M-M-A-R correctly.

  • i believe abortion is wrong. now im not one of those crazy fuckers whos gonna say be pro-life or burn in hell. but i am gonna give what i believe. wether you are athiest or not, human life is precious. if you believe in a god, your lucky he/she created us. if you are athiest, your lucky we are here in the first place. human life is precious wether its is a full grown human being or just a little three cell embryo. im not telling you that pro-choice is wrong. im just saying life is a miracle.

  • Those that say be pro-life or burn in hell are in the extreme minority, for being pro-life is about loving all.

    Christian prolifers would like to see all in heaven, they do not judge. They just want the deception, and the killing of babies and the wounding/harming of the mothers to stop.

  • "The ideal of civic participation gives way to a continual sideshow, a masquerade of democracy calculated to pique the public's emotions" -- Edward Bernays

  • Hilary you can't be a Christian and a bitch at the same time...

  • Um, all christians are bitches, actually....

  • That sounds like a generalization now doesn't it. You would literally have to meet every Christian in this world for your statement to be accurat.. FYI. Im not a Christian..but your comment was ignorant

  • cant serve two masters hilary.....

  • Abortion vs Going through with it IS a complicated choice. It's not simply 'choose life vs death'. I think what she says is good.

    Proud to be pro-choice! Not pro-abortion... pro-choice.

  • pro-choice is an elegant way to say pro-homicide.

  • if your mother aborted you, this world would be a better place. go adopt a baby please.

  • You can only say that because you have not seen what abortion really is. I challenge you to watch "the silent scream", to go see the pics on the Priests for Life website. I challenge you to become fully educated on abortion. There is a reason why tens of thousands of women who have had abortions are now publicly joining the pro-life side.

    Abortion is too important a women's health issue to not become fully educated on. If abortion was not a money maker, there would be no "prochoice".

  • ratherqude:

    One in the same my friend.

    Pro-choice = pro-abortion

  • Hey Joel Hunter!

    You said you are pro-life?

    Do you realize that every time you eat something you kill something?

    I bet you have probably had chicken eggs once in your life Joel Hunter and if you have you were not pro-life regarding the chicken's life. You bastard.

    It is impossible to be pro-life. If killing cows for meat is allowed in America than abortion should be aswell. Human beings are evolved animals! Joel Hunter is stupid and faith is a piece of mother fucking shit and fucking stinks

  • Oh so now we're comparing human life to animals??? Lol! That's funny...

  • Does G-d think less of cows than he does humans? I thought all G-d's creations were wondrous.

  • what is your point? yes God created animals, but he also created plants (which are living organisms for all you fema fanatics), water and everything else that we use. Obviously he has a purpose for them all. And a baby's purpose is not to be killed before he/she even gets a chance to be born.

  • What about male sperm? It's the precursor to a baby's life. If a baby's purpose is not to be killed before he/she even gets a chance to be born then any sperm that is killed is going against the sperm's purpose of becoming a baby. Since sperm is being continuously killed inside the testicles of almost every man on the planet Earth that means that all these men are committing a crime. If killing a baby is wrong then killing any sperm is wrong.

  • brightscience , If Evolution is a fact then you are the moral equivalent of a cockroach.

    Why do humans have more rights than any other animal? Is it because we are smarter and have flexible thumb?

    Abortion could not exist without the lie of evolution.

  • CharlieRight to tell you the truth we, as humans are nothing more then evolved bacteria. We have more rights then other animals simply because we are able to give our selves rights. Pigs can't give themselves the rights we posses because of their lack of a written language. Evolution is not a lie it is hard scientific fact. I've taken two college level biology courses and we indeed are nothing but animals. God is a bunch of bullshit.

  • brightscience If there is no God then you are your own God?

  • I am only an ignorant animal. Thats it, I'm a talking monkey.

  • rightscience , Ok,it is your right to believe what you want. Good luck, may be you will evolve into something else

  • TWO college level biology courses! Wow...well you SHOULD have it all figured out then!

  • ahmen!

  • cockroaches have pretty high fucking morals

  • scientifically, he is correct. A baby has a new genetic code and is therefor a new entity.

  • The funny thing is we are animals. Take a biology class, its called evolution.

  • LMAO. Humans are evolved animals? How come we aren't still evolving. You really believe we came from apes... LMAO

  • Hey ONubianDelight0 if you don't understand that we are animals then you are uneducated and need to go back to school. Evolution is how the world works and it is the foundation of modern biology. Human beings did not only come from apes we are the apes!

  • We are not apes, we are brutes. Apes do not kill each other pointlessly for oil or money.

  • You are probably right.

  • nor do they kill their unborn willingly.

    er- actually that falls under your 'for money' category doesn't it.

  • brightscience Did you go to Ape School?

  • 0NubianDelight0, where do you think that we came from? Do you believe in God?

  • vergadoce..... your very ignorant. just like you were a "clump" of tissue so are those babies. That is one opportunity at existing... people shouldnt be able to determine when to take someones opportunity to live. If you dont want to have babies... you shouldnt have sex. If you cant help restrain yourself... buy a vibrator or practice oral sex...hookers are available if you dont mind me calling you sick...

  • If a bitch gets the abortion early enough, it is NOT a baby. It's nothing more than sperm and an egg. It's not a person. You do have an option if you get pregnant. Have it or get an abortion. If I were wealthy enough, I'd pay for every abortion out there on principle

  • it is a baby the minute you find out your pregnate theres a baby in your tummy my oppion is if your pregnat wait nine months and when you see that baby and decide you don't want it put it up for adoption give it to someone who will want it,don't murder it

  • you-are-creepy

  • Why would a person who is considering abortion go thru all the pain such as morning sickness, taste aversions, back pain, swollen feet, mood swings for a baby they don't for themselves. Thats crazy

  • I see.

    So having children should be about the mother and not the children.

    And how is that not selfish?

  • Its not our place to judge, which is why I dont understand why this is even an issue in politics. That is someones personal business. By the way that was a continuation from my other comment. If you dont beleive in abortions then don't get one and don't support them

  • This is the same argument many used in the 1800's regarding slavery, which was a legal 'right' also.

    "If you don't believe in slavery, then don't own one."

    Slave owners were 'pro-choice', yet we judged them, made it an issue in politics, and forced our moral values on them.

    Good thing we did.

    Abortion is the same, because it makes the claim that human life is property.

  • Whether it is human life or not is not a question anymore. Even the abortionists acknowledge the scientific fact that it is human life.

    They just claim that because 'Little Ones' (eng) cannot survive without being in their mother's womb, the mother has the 'right' to take their life.

    Who has given them the 'right' or 'power' to decide this which we are all forced to accept as legal?

  • Oh if only your last statement was an option!

    Unfortunately I am forced to support abortions thru my tax dollars. I have no choice. Where is the 'pro-choice' movement regarding my right to choose here?

    What a pity also that all those that don't believe in abortion don't "don't support them", for we are in the high majority. But we have been duped into thinking we have no right to choose to not support, that would be 'anti-choice'.

    Ironic

    "Pro-choice" is in reality Anti-choice!

  • Are you done? Because you cannot make me change my opinion nore anyones else..you are wasting your time

  • I disagree.

    I don't believe prolife people are wasting their time.

    Keep up the good work. I know of at least 2 people who were saved from prolife work. One of them being my own daughter.

    I have friends and relatives who are deeply wounded from their abortions and wonder why no one tried to stop them. They tell me I was lucky.

    Don't lose hope.

    You are not wasting your time.

  • You have to take rape, incest, financial instablity into consideration. Who are you to tell someone they shouldnt be sexually active?

  • How about telling someone that they should take responsibility for their actions?

    If you don't want a baby, don't risk pregnancy. (that includes using birth control. For even with the use of birth control, there is a risk of pregnancy.)

    Abortionists promote sexual activity with birth control because they know unwanted pregnancies will occur & more $ will be made as women come in for abortions. One look at the Planned Parenthood website shows this Truth, former PP employees attest to it.

  • What's the big deal over abortion? Why do so many ppl care? I've funded 6 abortions in my life and I'd pay for a 7th if necessary. It's nothing but a clump of tissue. It's not a baby yet. Even if it was, so what? The less babies in this world, the better. If anyone needs help getting or funding an abortion, please contact me. I'll be glad to help!

  • Vergadoce: your sick. The less babies the better? What if i said the less old people the better (NOT THAT I WOULD). A lump of tissue? I mean this in the most bluntly honest way possible: That is a comment of pure ignorence. Do a little research. Watch the development of babies before you start killing them off.

  • You can always have more babies. Can you say OVERRATED. I've witnessed several abortions personally and seeing that tissue get sucked out and dumped in a trash heap didn't bother me one bit. I don't need to watch anything on babies. Most of today's children are bastards and doomed anyway. So either suck em out w/the vaccuum or sell their skin for leather coats to keep us warm in the winter. Call me sick if you like. I don't care

  • Then you have a sad, sad life ahead of you. I truly feel sorry for you.

  • Don't feel sad. I feel sad for you that you have such a pathetic life that you feel a need to save the world. It's just a baby. Get the hell over it. Footnote: I HATE children

  • Well I truly hope that yuo don't feel this strongly. God loves you and I hope you will relieze that one day. No matter what has happened in your life he still is there for you... and even though it's hard to see there really is hope in the world.

  • God doesn't exist. Neither does the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus

  • "I don't really miss god, but I sure miss Santa Clause." -Hole;Gutless

  • But you were once a child!

  • Hillary Clinton was involved in shady land deals involving the "White Water" scandal, of which she refused to cooperate with Federal Investigators. "Bill and Hillary" also illegally obtained F.B.I secret files on many of their political enemies for revenge. Both had also initiated I.R.S full scale field audits on the likes of "Paula Jones," and "Jennifer Flowers." These two women, were among many others of whom the "Clintons" tried to discredit for sexual impropriety allegations. We need change!

  • abortion rates are similar is countries where it is legal and illegal, but a lot of women die in countries where it is illegal, i agree with hillary on this, both sides need to work together to help those who are high risk for having an abortion (ppl in poverty) to lower the number of abortions

  • do you really believe that prochoice ppl like abortion? we want to reduce the number to zero

  • Look into the eyes of the Anti Christ. Sends shivers up your spine does'nt it?

    She would kill you if she did'nt want your vote.

  • Enjoy being very over dramatic I see. There is no anti-christ to look at. If your refering to Hillary Clinton there isn't anything chilling about looking into her eyes, she's a regualr public elected official, right sometimes,wrong others. Well meaning generally, using bumper sticker slogans.

  • Caring about her family her country, having to raise money for hours on end to stay in office, ambitious, baby-kissing, photo oping, probably a nice person in a relaxed moment out for your vote in when the cameras on. In other words no damn different then the large majority of public elected officials.

  • Yes you're right. and she wants uni health and if you don't want to pay for it and buy your own insurance instead she will Garnish your wages.

  • I was obviously joking. Hillary could not be the Anti-Christ any more than she could be the President.

    having to raise money for hours on end to stay in office.

    LMFAO. She is supported by multimillion dollar corporations, in exchange for promises to help them if she is elected. In other words she accepts bribes, like most other politicians.

    I agree though she is like most other politicians. She does not care about the country but, only her narrow interests like all the rest.

  • hillary's integrity is in doubt , she will do anytjing or say anything to get what she wants.

  • She's lying!!!!

  • I just hope and pray that TRUE Christians see the deception in these candidates. If you are a Christian, you have no right voting for a candidate that is even the slightest bit pro-choice. God said it not me. Do Not Murder

  • This country was founded on the gospel of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, abortion is not merely a religious topic, it's immoral, it's murder!

  • Was it really? Please give me all the history facts.

  • bunk90: Go research Partial Birth Abortion & how it's performed. It actually has nothing to do with religion...but more common-sense. All of the baby, except the head is born, and then the baby's skull is crushed. Mind you, this is on a full-term baby & is never medically necessary. A few more inches of the baby's birth & then it would be homicide. Don't u think that's pushing the envelope a bit?

  • It's sad people want to leave God out.

  • 17 and don't know shit. Sad.

  • She is such a joke.

  • so many words, but all i can hear is "Hello, my name is Hillary and i'm full of shit"

  • Go ask the National Right to Life who is more conservative on abortion.Fred Thompson Picks Up Endorsement from Virginia Pro-Life Group.Virginia Group is the Oldest Pro-Life Organization in the USA .Fred Thompson received the endorsement of Vermont Right to Life.

    Fred Thompson received the endorsement of the Wisconsin Right to Life political action committee (PAC).Fred Thompson received the endorsement of South Carolina Citizens for Life.Vote Fred Thompson!!!!

  • Forgiving is the Christian way, then allow people to sin and do what they want! Forgive them. And even jesus will forgive them, wont he? cause that is His teaching and His gods! What the hell is the fuss about. Everything can be forgiven and will be forgiven by the stupid logic of the bible.

  • Your Parents are Brother and Sister?

  • yokohama: Forgiving is thru repentance. Repentance is realizing your sin & turning away from it...

  • Rare my ass.

    How the hell are we supposed to find common ground with people who are for infanticide.

  • yeah really. It's a sick worl we live in

  • Hillary Clinton is evil! She's a lying communist. Don't vote Hillary. Abortion is wrong! It's murder. Check out my videos, click on my name!

  • She sounds like she keeps changing her opinion...

  • fippety floppety floo

  • I have ltos of friends who were bron from those violent fathers and they end up to be the greatest people. Ther eis no excuse of condamnigna nd putting our angers and our hate over the heads of those unborn children only because their fathers end up sick and crazy!My son s father was crazy but my son is the most lovable and kind gentle soul I have ever seen!

  • look at that conviction, I'm impressed, she "feels our pain"

  • dont forget that bill and hillary let 800,000 Rawandans DIE on their watch. who is next?

  • But when the Clinton Administration stopped the genocide in Kosovo, the Republicans cried "invterventionist world police." Make up your mind.

  • Damn, you're right. I see how the two issues are the same. One has to do with genocide in a foreign country which the UNITED NATIONS has a part in, and one has to do with domestic affairs of abortion.

    Great point though, really! Rather than coming up with something useful, compare it to something else as a scapegoat. Bye moron.

  • Unfortunately, you are unable to fathom what a comment thread is, so I suggest that you kindly unplug your computer, throw it out the window and never go on the internet again. K bye.

  • Neither do I and that makes you and Asshole>

  • If your a pro-lifer such as me, you have no business voting democrat.

  • She's backing a bill to make it illegal for the gov't to ban abortions! How is that going to lower the rate of abortions?! How can anyone believe her? Liers don't make good presidents!

  • Laws don't always stop behaviors. Prohibition didn't end alcoholism, after all. In fact, the problem was only made worse.

    In the modern day with legal abortion, the woman in question gets one from a doctor. These doctors can and do advise women on contraceptive options, and may point out something they didn't know that caused the pregnancy in the first place. By helping to prevent unwanted pregnancies, the demand for abortion goes down.

  • werechick,

    You're absolutely right!

    Let's repeal all the laws against assault, battery, rape, and murder!

    "Prohibition" - weak attempt!

  • GFE. Look up abortion statistics of countries where it is illegal versus where it's illegal, and get back to me.

    Nations with legal abortion also value prevention.

  • You got that right. She is doing nothing and she trying to make you think that her own crap sound like she doing something about her nothing.

  • You Hillary Supporters are sadly misguided! If (When) we have a terrorist attack on US soil, do you REALLY think Hillary will be able to lead us through it? I have a mental image of Hillary screaming obscenities at anyone she's dealing with...just as she did when her hubby Slick Willy was in office (doing nothing about the increase in terrorism attacks against the US).

  • I'm a Christian writer and I've endorsed her. And I believe in her. She is our best hope. I'm proud to be a Roman Catholic Democrat for Hillary. Anne Rice.

  • Did no ONE understand what she and the reverend meant? She is pro-choice, yes but she's also pro life. This means that if the woman have the choice to have abortion then she should. But why would she need to if people use protection? This would require more people being aware of sex-ed (something republicans are against). So what the reverend meant was the reducing woman's chances of having to go through abortion to 0%. That's the common ground.

  • Mike Gravel! Down with the DLC!

  • Vote Ron Paul 2008. Ron Paul abides by the Constitution which says that things like abortion, gay marriage are state issues. The federal government should butt-out. What's good for Georgia may not be good for Iowa. ronpaul2008. com

  • I am a Clinton supporter. Could you please elaborate on lies she has told. Frankly, we have seen MOST politicians are bought by special interests. We need to put these people running for office to get rid of ALL special interest groups. It all boils down to the love of money, which the Bible says is the root of ALL evil.

  • I feel that abortion is murder. I also believe a woman should make the decision what she wants done or not done to her body. Abortion is not a form of birth control. It is a matter of self-control. I agree with colonelmatterson about more education being needed. You do not have to murder a child in the womb that countless numbers of couples would love to have. Adoption is a great way to stop abortions, except under extreme medical conditions. This is my personal opinion.

  • Being from New York, " my senator " Hillary, in 1990 at a speech in Buffalo, promised 200,000 jobs

    for Western New Yorkers, ( if elected )

    Since then 200,000 people have LEFT Western New York to find work !!

    So be careful, she dose fulfill her campaign promises.

    But not the way she makes it sound.

    She has a split tong, and is very clever, and cunning.

  • shes a snake. i don't trust her at all she'll say anything to get votes and then won't follow through on any of it.

  • I can't stand her and I am pro choice up to the first trimester. She stood up there and ear tickled those poor good hearted (but delusional) people. Stop Hillary! Ron Paul or Mike Gravel 2008!

  • exactly.

    Mike Gravel/Ron Paul 2008.

  • Uh, aren't Mike Gravel and Ron Paul 2 different things?

    Ron wants smaller government and Mike wants to make it bigger.

  • This is the most dangerous politician we have ever had. To say she would do absolutely anything for power doesn't even come close to describing her. Let's talk about church and your faith, Hillary. Would a woman of faith destroy the lives of women behind the scenes who have been assaulted by your husband?

  • A Hitler named Hillary.

  • Give me a break, loser. The goal for anyone is to keep abortions rare. If there were better education about safe sex and more condoms available, there wouldn't need to be abortion. So there's a common goal. Let there always be a choice, but let's make sure that the choice doesn't have to be taken. That's why she said "safe, legal and rare."

  • Yeah, good answer. The kids are having sex like mad, throw condoms at them! I believe in the pro-choice...the choice to abstain. An world without God does not comprehend abstinence. The Bible does have answers. No matter what religion, if they believe in the Bible, they believe to abstain from sex until marriage as indicated in the rule Book. Good luck to you all.

  • People do have the choice not to have sex. But people choose to have sex. The government's job is not to be parents to people who want to have sex and nag them into behaving a certain way. The government can, however, make sure that for those who do make the choice to have sex they have the choice to also prevent an unintended pregnancy. What fantasy world do you think we live in that people are having sex because they don't know about abstinence?

  • I am pro-choice in the sence that if you have the choice to have sex and actually have a baby like nature intends when you have sex, you ought not be a fucking whiny pussy and kill your baby but be an adult and take care of the baby.

  • Oh my Goodness! Is she speaking to the crowd, or what? What a 2-faced woman. A dangerous woman!

  • When our troops come home and the "Hippie Chicks" shout "BABYKILLER!", its a pretty safe bet that more of these women have killed babies than any of those U.S. troops. What a shame...

  • The estimate is about 5.5 million American babies killed in the womb since US troops first entered Iraq. And Hillary voted for people in the military to be able to kill their babies at military hospitals. (S 2514 - 2002)

  • The GOP has a candidate named Ron Paul who actually voted against the War in Iraq and is much more Pro-Life than any candidate running.

  • You're so clearly a spinmeister. So what if she gets money from PP? A lot of you pro-life idiots don't realize that pro-choicers care MORE about life. The GOP is only the "party of life" in name. They've killed young people in Iraq and they've executed. Let's stop and think about what "life" really means.

  • But the troops in Iraq had a CHOICE to enter into the military. Since we've been in Iraq, 5.5 million unborn babies who never had a choice have been thrown away. This lying wicked witch voted to okay the killing of unborn babies by drilling a hole in their heads and getting their brains sucked out! How is that the same as the death of our troops in Iraq? LIFE is all about choice isn't it Bob?

  • I think you misunderstood me. The young people I was talking about are those the right would call "insurgents"- young, brainwashed Muslim men who in some respects have the right to be pissed seeing as we broke international military law by enacting a preemptive war of aggression. As for the procedure you referred to, that's late-term abortion and we agree there. I'm pro-choice but I think 3rd trimester abortion is cruel and unacceptable.

  • And why are so many pro-lifers that are supposedly so concerned about life also pro-death penalty, or trigger-happy game hunters, or even meat-eaters for that matter? It's not okay to abort even a blastocyst (essentially a ball of a few hundred cells with no nervous system and thus no pain sensation) but it's okay to kill and torture adult animals who feel real pain for food, clothing, and even game? Much of the right needs to stop acting so holier-than-thou until they become more civilized.

  • Are you comparing unborn babies to murderers who deserve the death penalty? What has the world come to?

  • "LIFE is all about choice isn't it Bob?" Really? You believe that? Then it's safe to assume you're for euthanasia, right?

  • This is a very weak way of reasoning. Contradictions within the GOP cannot be used to justify abortion. What does Iraq have to do with abortion? Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • What are you talking about?? I didn't use hypocrisy (what you call "contradictions within") to justify anything. I simply pointed them out so I could make a comparison about the value of life between the parties. I'm pro-choice for both moral and pragmatic reasons. If you want to know what they are, you're free to ask.

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