And every couple years or so the Americans come over and stay in this great City before they head out to the training fields of Shoalwater Bay.
When i was about 15 i met a few of them down at Barney Point beach, they were actually from the 'Seabees' (if i remember correctly).
They were quite a laugh, let me use their radar tracking equipment that was situated ontop of a armoured humvee, night vision googles and watched one exercise at the beach, Aus Vs USA
So where are these "Nuclear Warships" peaceconvergence? Last time I looked US Nimitz Class aircraft carriers never took part in Talismansabre and only conventionally powered ships like USS Kitty Hawk have taken part
u fucking idiot...shoalwater is a military site anyways, the only difference is theres a few more americans in it for a period of time... its not like the whole area itself is being blown up...OMG the ignorance and idiotism of sum people
you are 15yrs old,old enough to put your thoughts across in a better fashion. It doesnt cost you anything to be polite.We are all entitled to our own opinion, but there is no need for you to disrespect me.I hope you dont speak to your mother like that. Have a nice evening
believing in something fake? what like that 9/11 was produced by some fucked up UN official?
stonereflex : " I brought up 9/11 because it was the scapegoat for war and it was planned and orchestrated by high degree illuminatus masons of the order of the sons of itally in america, and members of the rotary club, operating within the UN."
ahha dont believe everything you read on the net mate rofl...
What a bunch whinging fags. Yank politicians are cunts just like politicians every where. Doesn't mean you have to take it out on the average yanky soldier boy. Everybody has the right to vote, if anyone gave a fuck about your pussy opinions they'd make it known- we'd vote in some green faggots, legalise drugs and get fucked up by the Indonesians. God you people are just not practical are you?
Wow, your video has made me realise I'm a terrible person for being a soldier. I give my contrite and sincere apology to all you left wing, soft cock, pinko, hippy wannabes who haven't got the balls to stand up for real cause and be a man so they have to take the soft option and be anti-war. No respect intended... your video has changed my life *wankers*
So just because some Service-members may have fucked up doesn't give reason for you to label these brave men/women and heroes as murderers.
And another thing: Operation Iraqi Freedom was not an illegal invasion just because the United Nations chose not to back it. One country can declare war on another country if they want. Not only if the United Nations says so. The United Nations is there to advise countries on what they should do, not to control them.
Hmm i think it is actually illegal for a country to declare war on another unless it is self defense or the UN gives the go ahead. I'm pretty sure they are the international rules on warfare. I could be wrong, i don't really care, i'm all for it. Those muslim extremist's must be stopped.
Who said anythign about 9/11 ? I just said that the muslim extremists must be stopped. I don't care whether the war is legal or not. I'm all for it. Infact, i'm joining the army at the end of this month..!
all im asking is who are these "muslim extremists" and what did they do?
Know what the cause is before you dedicate your life to it! This is a vital fork in the road so i'd suggest you start researching a bit, on all the so called "conspiracy theories", how do you know their nuts? have you looked into them, or do you just blindly beleive in bill o'rielly style "conspiracy nuts"? hmmm, maybe you still believe in santa too?
They are the cunts who kill innocents for a dumb fucking religion. If i had it my way, there'd be no fucking religion, nothing. You know what they do, stop being such a dumb fuck
thats been going on since the beggining both form british and us forces, look into it, theres alot of those articles around!
Then you can search up: Leo Zagami on youtube,
I brought up 9/11 because it was the scapegoat for war and it was planned and orchestrated by high degree illuminatus masons of the order of the sons of itally in america, and members of the rotary club, operating within the UN...
wow... and you tell ppl not to believe consiracy theories... but i have no doubt that 9/11 was the breaking point but to be honest im glad we went to war.. it was going to happen sooner or later. cut the shit and let ppl belive wat ever the fuck they want.. im sure brodcra is a big boy and can take care of himself
I didnt ever say he wasnt a big boy, im sure he is. Im just adressing his points from the posts as he seemed like a.... brainwashed american? Beleiving in something fake can lead to uneductaed decisions, and we are in a time where very important decisions will have to be made.... maybe the most important decisions in our lives.
i never told him NOT to, i told him to research them all becuase many have been proven today and reveal a hidden reality that is the most important story of our time.
Besides, do you know what the coalition has done for Iraq ever since we arrived?
*Decreased Ethnic Violence
*Trained a stable Iraqi Police/Army that are ethical and moral unlike Saddam's Iraqi Guard.
*Eliminated Terrorists that were operating in the region for a long time and even terrorists who had been operating in other parts of the world who came to Iraq to fight the Americans.
Do you REALLY believe you have Decreased Ethnic Violence or Eliminated Terrorists??? Your dreaming. Even bush doesnt believe that. Iraq is a disaster with everyone a loser except the US " reconstuction" companies, Arms manufactures and oil consumers. And rather than Eliminated Terrorists its become a training ground for many who are pissed off at the USA to launch more attacks
I was in Iraq in 1991 and 2001 in peace camps and met and talked with Ordinary Iraqis. Sure they had some problems but nothing like it is today. I am amazed that on some level you and other marines actualy believe what you are saying and what you are being told by Bush and others.
What I believe has nothing to do with George Bush. The only thing I believe regarding to George Bush was his declaration of war on Saddam Hussein's regime. Otherwise, I consider myself a democrat who supports the war.
I also believe that the coalition has decreased ethnic violence because of the checkpoints and patrols set up. You wouldn't know about this because all CNN tells you is that a US Army/Marine Patrol went out and so many were killed by one or more IEDs.
You don't bother to look for what Our countries have done for Iraq.
Oh and btw: I'm not a Marine... Not Yet. And I say Semper Fi only when I believe is appropriate and other Marines have allowed me to say it so don't try to question me about it.
1. The Iraqi death-toll is somewhere over 650,000. Not millions. Now I will grant you that some of them were murdered by soldiers but I bring up the point that, that doesn't earn the right to label Military Service-members as murderers. Those people responsible did those things because of trauma that they had experienced or because of some deeply-seeded problems planted in their brains from a long time ago.
We didn't go to Iraq out of Oil Dependence but because Saddam and his higher-ups were the ones murdering innocent civilians. Specifically Shiites. Our Marines, Soldiers and other sailors did not Murder Iraqi's. Our service-members brought justice to those causing ethnic-violence and abuse in the region and that is what they are continuing to do today.
if we did nothing, the same amount, probably more iraqi civilians would have been murdered, do you even know what the Taliban or Alqiada do to people? they take them from their homes and kill them for no reason, so if your protesting agaist us. then fine, you take our weapons and equiptment, and you go over seas to Iraq or Afganistan, i bet you wouldn't even be able to fucking last a day.
leave them the fuck alone mate, wars happen for a reason.
I did time in Iraq in 1991 and 2001 in peace camps and met and talked with Ordinary Iraqis. I served about a month each time. You probably have a better idea what the Taliban, Alqiada and US marines do to people they are told by their superiors to kill or subjugate. What Im saying is we have to find a different mechanism to resolve conflicts. One that does not cause immense suffering.
Usually the reason wars happen is their are always soldiers willing to do a presidents dirty work. How many false reasons has bush given for the iraq war. 9/11, WMDs, Alqaida, restore democracy, liberate Iraqis,elliminate terrorists, etc..What about ensuring oil supply and setting up permenent military bases in the middle east????
god damn hippy protesters, think about why they are training for things, as said before, if america and us aussies and britan and other countrys didn't step in on the iraqi problem, think about how many civilians would have died, so get fucked you dirty hippies (pardon the aussie thats comming outa my 15 year old mouth lol)
You guys are being used/abused to support profits for multination companies and our dependence on Oil. You cant be proud of what you have done /are doing in Iraq? Peace though negotiation. I dont know how many iraqis would have died if there was no illeagl invasion but I know over a million iraqis have been murderd because they did.
this was gay, your all a bucnh of fucking hippies, its just war games not real war and any ways we do it over in the USA aswell, and think of it this way as long as man is around so will war, SO FUCKING GET USED TO IT, you other the problem or the answer and hippies are a big problem.
AWSOME VIDIO great footage... did you see that A 10 warthog decemate that tank and those carrier landings where awsome oh and by the way there was only one nuke powered vessal in the whole fleet... a submarine
WIN TV / channel Nine is conducting a poll on the war games Talisman Saber 07. They are asking people to vote on the issue. Should Talisman Sabre take place at Shoalwater Bay?
It is a big mistake to assume the organisers of these protests are starry-eyed naives who believe in peace and justice. You only have to look at what they don't protest. Invasion of Kuwait, Rwanda, Serbs exterminating Bosnians, Mugabe's genocide of the Shona. They just don't want us to be able to fight back when they start on us.
Great interpretation of Laurie Anderson's 1981 song "O Superman" with very relevant comment on the mechanical inhumanity of war and modern technology.
they are not innocent naive hippies. peaceconvergence censors posts. they are trying to create the type of peace which needs censorship and oppression to work. no wonder they don't want us to be able to fight back.
the song is "Oh Superman" by Lorrie Anderson, not sure if that is how you spell it 2JJJ in sydney use to play it all the time, it's from around the early 80's
What a crappy, moronic vid. I suppose the hippie moron who made this believes that the world is a peaceful place where everyone joins hands, dances and sings. I suppose the idiot would be happy to disband our militaries and just roll over and die? MORON!
listen u idiot!!!....first kids go to other countries and kill the locals , then they realise its not the way 2 behave , then hippies r made. Who grew long hair and smoked pot after vietnam....think about it b4 posting nonsense!!!
Lovely imagery and juxtaposition of footage from totally unrelated events in world history. Great sound track. Rather a wargame than a real war any day.
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Why do you prostesters hate the people who die for your right to have opinions?
schmmity13 7 months ago
Why you protesters hate the people who die for your rights to do this.....????
schmmity13 7 months ago
im not getting any sound
Rm21122012 7 months ago
Failed hippy protest vid
TheGhillieMan95 1 year ago
the only thing that bothers me is i can't fish while these ops are on ha cos they bomb the islands
Chocman86 3 years ago
Wow, I want to go on holiday to Shoalwater now. Looks like a great place!
ArmyJonHall 3 years ago
So too was Baghdad..... once, uhh.....
ddchalmers 2 years ago
im an aussie in the navy and we have used shoalwater bay for over 35 years as a ordnance disposal training ground.
hdoger 3 years ago
Protesters should be shot on site.
And when the day comes and they all start bitching for protection from the very people they crucified, the World will laugh in their pathetic faces
AussietheAustralian 3 years ago 8
G'DaY!,
I'm in Gladstone, Queensland.
And every couple years or so the Americans come over and stay in this great City before they head out to the training fields of Shoalwater Bay.
When i was about 15 i met a few of them down at Barney Point beach, they were actually from the 'Seabees' (if i remember correctly).
They were quite a laugh, let me use their radar tracking equipment that was situated ontop of a armoured humvee, night vision googles and watched one exercise at the beach, Aus Vs USA
AussietheAustralian 3 years ago 2
So where are these "Nuclear Warships" peaceconvergence? Last time I looked US Nimitz Class aircraft carriers never took part in Talismansabre and only conventionally powered ships like USS Kitty Hawk have taken part
Unit437 3 years ago
filthy filthy hippies the 60s already ended no1s listening
chunkeyhotdog144 3 years ago
The military takes very good care of it training areas u neednt be worried about damage caused
Firehound6264 3 years ago
that song creeps me out a little bit
ShinodaObsessed 3 years ago
Thank god Howard has gone, lets just hope the new priminister doesntlet the yanks dirty our backyard anymore. Shoalwater looks beautiful
marianneglinda 3 years ago
u fucking idiot...shoalwater is a military site anyways, the only difference is theres a few more americans in it for a period of time... its not like the whole area itself is being blown up...OMG the ignorance and idiotism of sum people
australianproud 3 years ago
you are 15yrs old,old enough to put your thoughts across in a better fashion. It doesnt cost you anything to be polite.We are all entitled to our own opinion, but there is no need for you to disrespect me.I hope you dont speak to your mother like that. Have a nice evening
marianneglinda 3 years ago
your a fuckwit.
ceskazbrojovka17HMR 2 years ago
Wait, are you FOR or AGAINST Talisman Sabre? Because looking at the video, it seems like you're all for it!
ArmyJonHall 3 years ago
fuck you hippies . your just like the people who protested against ww2 and vietnam.
chunkeyhotdog144 3 years ago
believing in something fake? what like that 9/11 was produced by some fucked up UN official?
stonereflex : " I brought up 9/11 because it was the scapegoat for war and it was planned and orchestrated by high degree illuminatus masons of the order of the sons of itally in america, and members of the rotary club, operating within the UN."
ahha dont believe everything you read on the net mate rofl...
rockyrhodes1234 3 years ago
fuck mate its a pitty ppl dont see that wars have to happen imagine if we didnt go into iraq.
Miniorroinim 4 years ago
What a bunch whinging fags. Yank politicians are cunts just like politicians every where. Doesn't mean you have to take it out on the average yanky soldier boy. Everybody has the right to vote, if anyone gave a fuck about your pussy opinions they'd make it known- we'd vote in some green faggots, legalise drugs and get fucked up by the Indonesians. God you people are just not practical are you?
Cullyn42 4 years ago
I second that
LeftWingsR4Chickens 4 years ago
shman1958 you are a disgusting left wing hippi piece of shit that NEEDS to be severly bashed by the police at your next "peaceful protest".
alexsafros 4 years ago
Wow, your video has made me realise I'm a terrible person for being a soldier. I give my contrite and sincere apology to all you left wing, soft cock, pinko, hippy wannabes who haven't got the balls to stand up for real cause and be a man so they have to take the soft option and be anti-war. No respect intended... your video has changed my life *wankers*
1027rsar 4 years ago 6
shaman1958, you are fked up. These protesters have no knowledge of what is used in these exercises whatsoever.
Elfraddor 4 years ago
Haha, you people are retarded. Thats all I gotta say.
JRHOOAH 4 years ago
who gave you permission to rip off my film? get an original thought you arse hole!
BSharpProductions 4 years ago
hahahah
i just watched it again...just for the music...deffinatly creeeeepy
operatingmanxxx 4 years ago
whats creepier is playing it in two windows with a slight delay:)
operatingman 4 years ago
Yea mate, i agree...that's Dr. Who shit. Very creepy music
Lucke1990 4 years ago
the music in these creeps me out....
operatingmanxxx 4 years ago
you fuckin told him mate
griffler1 4 years ago
Cheers
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
So just because some Service-members may have fucked up doesn't give reason for you to label these brave men/women and heroes as murderers.
And another thing: Operation Iraqi Freedom was not an illegal invasion just because the United Nations chose not to back it. One country can declare war on another country if they want. Not only if the United Nations says so. The United Nations is there to advise countries on what they should do, not to control them.
Semper Fi you fucking hippy
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
Hmm i think it is actually illegal for a country to declare war on another unless it is self defense or the UN gives the go ahead. I'm pretty sure they are the international rules on warfare. I could be wrong, i don't really care, i'm all for it. Those muslim extremist's must be stopped.
brodcra 4 years ago
Did you know what a "muslim extremist" was before 9/11?
Do you know who perpetrated 9/11?
I'll give you a hint: it wasnt "muslim extremists".
stonereflex 3 years ago
Who said anythign about 9/11 ? I just said that the muslim extremists must be stopped. I don't care whether the war is legal or not. I'm all for it. Infact, i'm joining the army at the end of this month..!
brodcra 3 years ago
all im asking is who are these "muslim extremists" and what did they do?
Know what the cause is before you dedicate your life to it! This is a vital fork in the road so i'd suggest you start researching a bit, on all the so called "conspiracy theories", how do you know their nuts? have you looked into them, or do you just blindly beleive in bill o'rielly style "conspiracy nuts"? hmmm, maybe you still believe in santa too?
stonereflex 3 years ago
They are the cunts who kill innocents for a dumb fucking religion. If i had it my way, there'd be no fucking religion, nothing. You know what they do, stop being such a dumb fuck
brodcra 3 years ago
oh, so you must be talking about the US shadow government.
stonereflex 3 years ago
here check out the terrorists:
infowars(dot)net/articles/february2007/050207FRU(dot)htm
thats been going on since the beggining both form british and us forces, look into it, theres alot of those articles around!
Then you can search up: Leo Zagami on youtube,
I brought up 9/11 because it was the scapegoat for war and it was planned and orchestrated by high degree illuminatus masons of the order of the sons of itally in america, and members of the rotary club, operating within the UN...
stonereflex 3 years ago
wow... and you tell ppl not to believe consiracy theories... but i have no doubt that 9/11 was the breaking point but to be honest im glad we went to war.. it was going to happen sooner or later. cut the shit and let ppl belive wat ever the fuck they want.. im sure brodcra is a big boy and can take care of himself
rockyrhodes1234 3 years ago
you are glad? Why?
I didnt ever say he wasnt a big boy, im sure he is. Im just adressing his points from the posts as he seemed like a.... brainwashed american? Beleiving in something fake can lead to uneductaed decisions, and we are in a time where very important decisions will have to be made.... maybe the most important decisions in our lives.
stonereflex 3 years ago
i never told him NOT to, i told him to research them all becuase many have been proven today and reveal a hidden reality that is the most important story of our time.
stonereflex 3 years ago
Besides, do you know what the coalition has done for Iraq ever since we arrived?
*Decreased Ethnic Violence
*Trained a stable Iraqi Police/Army that are ethical and moral unlike Saddam's Iraqi Guard.
*Eliminated Terrorists that were operating in the region for a long time and even terrorists who had been operating in other parts of the world who came to Iraq to fight the Americans.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
Do you REALLY believe you have Decreased Ethnic Violence or Eliminated Terrorists??? Your dreaming. Even bush doesnt believe that. Iraq is a disaster with everyone a loser except the US " reconstuction" companies, Arms manufactures and oil consumers. And rather than Eliminated Terrorists its become a training ground for many who are pissed off at the USA to launch more attacks
shaman1958 4 years ago
I was in Iraq in 1991 and 2001 in peace camps and met and talked with Ordinary Iraqis. Sure they had some problems but nothing like it is today. I am amazed that on some level you and other marines actualy believe what you are saying and what you are being told by Bush and others.
shaman1958 4 years ago
What I believe has nothing to do with George Bush. The only thing I believe regarding to George Bush was his declaration of war on Saddam Hussein's regime. Otherwise, I consider myself a democrat who supports the war.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
I also believe that the coalition has decreased ethnic violence because of the checkpoints and patrols set up. You wouldn't know about this because all CNN tells you is that a US Army/Marine Patrol went out and so many were killed by one or more IEDs.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
You don't bother to look for what Our countries have done for Iraq.
Oh and btw: I'm not a Marine... Not Yet. And I say Semper Fi only when I believe is appropriate and other Marines have allowed me to say it so don't try to question me about it.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
well, its definatley going to end up being a better place without saddam and the republican guard
operatingmanxxx 4 years ago
lol, that's a definite.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
Oh yes and another thing.
1. The Iraqi death-toll is somewhere over 650,000. Not millions. Now I will grant you that some of them were murdered by soldiers but I bring up the point that, that doesn't earn the right to label Military Service-members as murderers. Those people responsible did those things because of trauma that they had experienced or because of some deeply-seeded problems planted in their brains from a long time ago.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
Besides, let me ask you:
If you were aware that Saddam was killing off innocent civilians would you have just stood back and said
"No, please. Mutilate innocent civilians!"
No you wouldn't have.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
Shaman,
We didn't go to Iraq out of Oil Dependence but because Saddam and his higher-ups were the ones murdering innocent civilians. Specifically Shiites. Our Marines, Soldiers and other sailors did not Murder Iraqi's. Our service-members brought justice to those causing ethnic-violence and abuse in the region and that is what they are continuing to do today.
SierraPapaFoxtrot 4 years ago
if we did nothing, the same amount, probably more iraqi civilians would have been murdered, do you even know what the Taliban or Alqiada do to people? they take them from their homes and kill them for no reason, so if your protesting agaist us. then fine, you take our weapons and equiptment, and you go over seas to Iraq or Afganistan, i bet you wouldn't even be able to fucking last a day.
leave them the fuck alone mate, wars happen for a reason.
griffler1 4 years ago
I did time in Iraq in 1991 and 2001 in peace camps and met and talked with Ordinary Iraqis. I served about a month each time. You probably have a better idea what the Taliban, Alqiada and US marines do to people they are told by their superiors to kill or subjugate. What Im saying is we have to find a different mechanism to resolve conflicts. One that does not cause immense suffering.
shaman1958 4 years ago
Usually the reason wars happen is their are always soldiers willing to do a presidents dirty work. How many false reasons has bush given for the iraq war. 9/11, WMDs, Alqaida, restore democracy, liberate Iraqis,elliminate terrorists, etc..What about ensuring oil supply and setting up permenent military bases in the middle east????
shaman1958 4 years ago
god damn hippy protesters, think about why they are training for things, as said before, if america and us aussies and britan and other countrys didn't step in on the iraqi problem, think about how many civilians would have died, so get fucked you dirty hippies (pardon the aussie thats comming outa my 15 year old mouth lol)
griffler1 4 years ago
You guys are being used/abused to support profits for multination companies and our dependence on Oil. You cant be proud of what you have done /are doing in Iraq? Peace though negotiation. I dont know how many iraqis would have died if there was no illeagl invasion but I know over a million iraqis have been murderd because they did.
shaman1958 4 years ago
triple that if we nations hadent have gone to iraq
sstdog 3 years ago
this was gay, your all a bucnh of fucking hippies, its just war games not real war and any ways we do it over in the USA aswell, and think of it this way as long as man is around so will war, SO FUCKING GET USED TO IT, you other the problem or the answer and hippies are a big problem.
Scarecrow15 4 years ago
guys this is a bit one sided don't ya think hell
Doc9999990 4 years ago
disgusting what they are doing to our country...go shit in your own back yard!
itiswotitis 4 years ago
AWSOME VIDIO great footage... did you see that A 10 warthog decemate that tank and those carrier landings where awsome oh and by the way there was only one nuke powered vessal in the whole fleet... a submarine
doobf 4 years ago
WIN TV / channel Nine is conducting a poll on the war games Talisman Saber 07. They are asking people to vote on the issue. Should Talisman Sabre take place at Shoalwater Bay?
To vote NO phone 1902 555 166
DianeAUFORN 4 years ago
What's the number for YES?
smeary10 4 years ago
It is a big mistake to assume the organisers of these protests are starry-eyed naives who believe in peace and justice. You only have to look at what they don't protest. Invasion of Kuwait, Rwanda, Serbs exterminating Bosnians, Mugabe's genocide of the Shona. They just don't want us to be able to fight back when they start on us.
utkonos313 4 years ago
fuck off you god dam hippies
damanlyboyz 4 years ago
agreed mate, all of you damn hippies shall be gone, because the only thing you look with on, is fire!
griffler1 4 years ago
Damn hippies.
spangacrab 4 years ago
wtf is this movie about? terrible 80's music D:
slikazn09 4 years ago
Great interpretation of Laurie Anderson's 1981 song "O Superman" with very relevant comment on the mechanical inhumanity of war and modern technology.
KD96638 4 years ago
i read this comment which is an apt critique and then like the next comment is "fuck off hippies" hahaha
quite a society we have on our hands.
diogeneslaertius666 4 years ago
they are not innocent naive hippies. peaceconvergence censors posts. they are trying to create the type of peace which needs censorship and oppression to work. no wonder they don't want us to be able to fight back.
utkonos313 4 years ago
the song is "Oh Superman" by Lorrie Anderson, not sure if that is how you spell it 2JJJ in sydney use to play it all the time, it's from around the early 80's
jebhod 4 years ago
What a crappy, moronic vid. I suppose the hippie moron who made this believes that the world is a peaceful place where everyone joins hands, dances and sings. I suppose the idiot would be happy to disband our militaries and just roll over and die? MORON!
whydoyouwanttoknow 4 years ago
Just imagine if we all disbanded!
Brightwarrior 4 years ago
listen u idiot!!!....first kids go to other countries and kill the locals , then they realise its not the way 2 behave , then hippies r made. Who grew long hair and smoked pot after vietnam....think about it b4 posting nonsense!!!
plemyk 4 years ago
Lovely imagery and juxtaposition of footage from totally unrelated events in world history. Great sound track. Rather a wargame than a real war any day.
smcc115577 4 years ago
Whats the song?
reciporkate 4 years ago
good video
fritzfffffffffffffff 4 years ago
BRILLIANT !!!
KipTheDip 4 years ago