@25286969 Dry firing a rimfire piece is a bad idea because the pin could make contact with the face of the barrel head. This is typical of low- and medium-cost .22s and things like that. However, on precision rimfire firearms even this danger is eliminated because the pin is prevented from contacting the head by limiting its travel.
On center fire pieces there is no problem because there's nothing for the pin to hit. And, the travel of the pin is limited by its carriage.
Granted it may take some practice. But right off the bat the grip of the gun feels weak with this method. I cannot get a good solid feeling grip. Or maybe a someone should develop aftermarket recievers that have a canted grip. LOL
@pjanak I dig. The lower three fingers of your hand have less purchase on the front strap, not a thing to instill confidence in your grip. If you have small hands and a large pistol this technique may be unusable -- a small woman holding a DE, for instance, prolly can't get enough finger meat on the front strap for it to work. Most men, however, will find that the heel of the hand will swallow the back strap sufficiently for the pistol to remain firmly embedded in the hand.
@voodazz I am not going to bother making a vid showing a breakdown of why my Sigma is such a pile of crap. However, I am told by numerous other Sigma owners that S&W made some serious changes in the pistol to improve its reliability. I sure hope so, because it couldn't get any worse.
Oh, and that DE has never, not ever, NOT EVER ONCE failed to chamber, fire, or cycle. I guess that's what happens when you spend $1100 on a pistol.
@MartySchrader I'm not trying to be a troll, or upset you in anyway. But, I own a Sigma 9mm, and it has never failed to chamber, fire, or cycle. The only thing that has happened was the slide didn't lock back when I was out of rounds. But, that was because of the slide, not the gun itself. I bought the Sigma in February of 2011. I am not sure the differences between mine and yours since your Sigma is probably the first generation. The only argument I have about my Sigma is the hard trigger pull.
@treysturgeon Oh, right -- you mean the magazine follower didn't push the slide lock up into battery. I dig it. Anyway, I'm glad your Sigma is a well-behaved piece. As I have already stated multiple times, there is ample evidence that S&W changed the course of Sigma engineering long after my unit was produced (12 years or so ago). I've read plenty of guys on rec.guns who said what you've said, so I can believe it. It's just that my analysis of my generation Sigma remains valid for *that* piece.
@voodazz It's actually pretty well known and well agreed-upon within the firearms community that S&W's first foray into the polymer handgun market was a tremendous failure...
I tend to agree with him...I own a sigma and it's got one of the heaviest trigger pulls out of every gun I own and is it the most inconsistent one I own in terms of accuracy.
No shit, your wrist doesn't line up with eye because of your shoulder. That's why the training is so far behind body mechanics. I'm glad you posted this Mr Schrader. I'm going to holler at you (if I can).
@XGCScrappy You miss the point. This technique is about lining up the bore with the wrist and forearm, *not* the eye. You gotta move your head over towards the strong hand to line up your eye with the sights.
@Just4Th3Lulz I did, but I will not argue with him. I used that same technique with my magnums and 45 at the beginning. After getting trained in proper grip I don't have to anymore because every time I go to the range I shoot over 200 pistol rnds and spend at least a 100 shooting my rifles to reinforce my training so I can properly train my students to repeat the same grip whether its an ar, 1911, glock, sub khar, shotgun, magnum. He's speaking to recreational shooters.
im still kinda confused. couldnt u just change the direction of your wrists? if i was pointing straight and turned my wrist all the way to the right in a 90 degree angle ovbiously its not centered with my forarm. so cant i just adjust the angle of my wrist inside of changing my grip? thanks corey
@CoreyRegalado Changing the direction of your wrist just changes the angle of recoil relative to your forearm. The problem is one of offset, and that can only be addressed by the location of the backstrap relative to your hand. By changing that you align the recoil with the bones.
Ideally you'd want the barrel to come out about where your third finger is so that the recoil would be *directly* in line with your forearm. Competition single shot pistols have the barrel as low as they can get.
@kmoney1491 The Kahr K9. It's a 9mm Parabellum single stack auto. Mine was one of the original "black steel" models with some phunky machining on the frame and slide, so I had the whole thing nickel plated to slick it up. After that it became a really sweet shooter. The modern ones are stainless.
@zooey787 Well, I've heard from other Sigma owners that they have had good luck with theirs. Perhaps S&W made some serious improvements in the piece after mine was made. My experience was that the trigger mechanism is terribly inconsistent, draggy, and overall foul. The slop between the frame rail inserts and the slide provides for even more inconsistency in the trigger mechanism, plus some weirdness in how the sear breaks. The extractor assembly is a horror unto itself. There's more if you want
@zooey787 Mine was actually a range gun originally. So, I got it used with several thousand rounds through it already in all likelihood. However, the piece was not all clapped out and used up; in fact, the wear was fairly even and not deep at all. I got this thing about ten years ago.
Find a good pistol instructor is a great suggestion. Hands on instruction can't be beat. Additionally, one can gleen a wealth of good shooting pointers by observing Todd Jarrets shooting style. Comes down to the basics sight picture, trigger control(along with grip), and follow through; which leads to recoil management. Thanks
@tactom51 TJ is one of the finest, but certainly not the only one. I'm not really sure how many of these training videos are really all that valuable. This one is just a single idea stretched out for five minutes (heh).
You are correct that one-on-one instruction can't be beat. A real instructor can watch your hands when you fire and observe things about how you are responding to the firearm that you are unaware of yourself. There's no substitute for that.
@jassoe Safety anal retention. In purist's terms, if a firearm leaves your line of sight then it has been loaded and charged -- by elves, demons, or space aliens -- until you prove otherwise. It's probably not necessary for me to go through that hassle, but there's always some git that will chime in with "You didn't exercise proper firearms handling safety!" if I don't do it. [sigh]
Ok I'm back, not sure if it helped improve my aim since it was really bad to start with(low left) but I am sure it helped as I was figuring out all the other things I needed to work on. Seems right to grip it like this.
I put a few reviews of the FNX9 and my shooting up.
Great tip... I tried in a drive by and got great results.... Joke.. No I try'd it at the range with my .45 and my wrist feels good after fifty rounds... Thx
I almost didnt want to watch, im glad I did! I can notice the difference doing it just sitting here. I have the new FNX 9, I'll try it with the different backstraps it comes with.
I actually figured this out yesterday after being frustrated with my sig shooting lower than what I was aiming. I just read on the Sig Facebook, some guy linked me to your video. I'm glad this is a correct technique! I was worried my wrist turning was due to my hand size or something, but once I did that, wow it was night and day difference.
@Boostinmister2 Hey, I'm glad this little piece helped out. Be sure to look around for other instructional videos up here on YT. There are lots of other folks who actually know what they're doing providing instruction here.
@lilfisticuffs Look around for a shooting instructor in your area. The easiest thing to do is go to a local gun shop (NOT a sporting goods store) and ask around about shooting instruction. Somebody will know of an instructor who can train you.
A typical introductory shooting course will set you back $100 plus ammo, range fees, etc. Well worth it.
Great video! I'm 30 years old and I've been shooting guns since I was 8 with my Dad and family. I haven't been shooting in a few monhts but I cannot wait to try out this new technique. I got frustrated with the accuracy of some pistols. My favorite is the Beretta 92FS. I'm very accurate with that. My only quip is the background music is a little loud.
Yeah, everybody hates the music. That's why I made some annotation about it.
My 96FS is just like your 92 except for being in .40 S&W instead of 9 mm Parabellum. Mine has had a little trigger and mainspring work plus the usual ramp polishing, extractor reshape, etc. I think you'll find that this technique helps you get the trigger finger isolated from the rest of the hand in double action, too. Let me know how it goes, eh?
@MartySchrader Hello, Marty! Thanks for the reply! Yes, I will certainly let ya know how it goes! I'm a slim guy, light frame and so I figured it was my grip (Strength and mass or lack of) that was causing it. I went to a indoor shooting range and tried a few different pistols & was frustrated. I've since been trying to strengthen my forearm and grip, but I'm guessing this technique will be the key! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!
This advice actually helped correct my tendancy to shoot left of the bullseye.
For me the bigger issue was I am gripping to hard with the right hand and the act of pulling the trigger pulls the gun left. I increased my left hand grip and essentially only use the right hand to apply stability and pull the trigger.
Instructors will tell you that you need to isolate the movement of the trigger finger from the rest of your strong hand, even without the weak hand support. There are many ways to do that, but a good grip with the lower three fingers is how I learned.
@Barfpoop interesting...a guy with a screen name barfpoop providing insight into music. Would think your area of expertize had more to do with a restroom.
@selphproklamed Ahh. Well. Nice to know I'm not alone in the use of this technique. I had never seen anybody else teaching it, though. Are there any vids from real instructors who talk about this?
Great video. Im hopefully picking up my first pistol today. I have noticed in some videos of people shooting, the gun recoils to one side. Im assuming they are not griping it properly as you have shown. When I go to shoot, I will pay attention to how I have normally grip the handgun. Im sure this video will help alot.
yep I was griping it properly. But for some reason, I can hit every spray can, pop can, bottle etc. on every shot, but struggle with actual targets. haha Im not sure why... But the gun feels very comfortable in my hand, and is very accurate. Its a Beretta 92fs 9mm. (Italian made, not U.S.)
Hmm. I used to have quite a bit of trouble with my US-made 96FS, the .40 S&W version of that pistol. I took it to The Gun Doctor in Roselle, IL. They lightened up the double action trigger and cleaned up the sear. After that it was a lot easier to hold good groups.
Don't like it I know the technique I'm a proffesional shooter myself I shoot straight a frame with the pistol comfortably in my hand the problem with ur style is u r stuck in the weaver stance
I don't mind being stuck in the Weaver stance. This is for recreational shooting, don't forget. I keep getting all theses questions and comments about combat shooting, and this is *clearly* not what I am trying to address here.
What advantages are you talking about? Are you trying to compare rifles and handguns? They are very different. My piece here is just about recreational handgun shooting and has nothing to do with rifles. Sorry.
And yes, that's a Desert Eagle Mark XIX in .50 Action Express. I didn't show any of my 1911s in this piece.
Wow! Great vid and instruction....better accuracy and hand placement...oh and sorry brother, but I'm a musician. I don't know what people have been saying about the background music, but I sounds great! 5 Star vid all around!
What you SHOULD do is demonstrate this yourself at the range and show the difference in the recoil action when you hold the gun the way so many do and your way, aligned with the forearm.
Hmm. I like that. Makes more sense, too, since the camera can capture the movement and the take can be slowed down to enhance the training aspect. Thanks for the suggestion.
Never really thought of hand positions in shooting. I pick my 1911 up on Thursday so I will try to pick apart some advice on your and other videos to try to shoot as accurate as possible.
In my mind using a modified Iscoceles stance/grip this system would not work out due to the angles and the fact that your face (eyes) are in the middle of the base of the triangle.
Hmm. I am using a Weaver stance (something Todd Jarrett poo-poos) to put my piece up to eye level. My head moves and turns to the right to put my right eye into the sight line. It seems comfortable enough, and the angles all seem to fall into place.
Perhaps you could offer some counterpoint in a video response?
Well in a weaver stance..........which by the way is what I used to shoot before moving to the Iscoceles stance it might make sense. I will try to get out to the range to play with that this week.
As to a vid? I keep saying that I need to make more targeted vids. However at this point I am planning on making more politically motivated ones considering the situation here in Canada. I mean does it really matter how your gun lines up if..............you cannot even own them!!
I just bought a Sigma for my first pistol, my heart sunk when you said it was lousy, well I've been having fun with it, without and problems whatsoever I might add.
Yeah, a couple of other folks have said the same thing. And as I have said before, it is likely that S&W fixed a bunch of the problems with the Sigma after mine was manufactured. It isn't possible for the piece to have gotten any worse. Best of luck with yours. Keep it clean, feed it well.
Oh, please! Don't even *try* to use my name in the same breath as that of the sacred Todd!
This video piece is just for recreational handgun shooting. TJ is The Man for instruction on real competition shooting. This it the guy who won the IPSC Worlds, y'dig? But thanks for the praise, anyway.
Hi, Marty. Great vid. I'm just getting into handguns myself. I grew up shooting rifles and thought I could just pick up a pistol and shoot. Was I wrong or what! I went to the range the other day and was shooting a S&W M&P 9mm and couldn't, for the life of me, hit the damn target. I did, however, do a lot better with my friend's Sig P226. I'm gonna try this next time and see if it helps. In the meantime, if there are any pointers you could give me/us, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Great vid! Wannabe milsimmer here, this REALLY increased my accuracy with my 1911, and if you the lesson in mind, it isn't a hassle to draw and grip your weapon properly. Thanks for sharing, 5/5
Thanks. However, you'll note that this is really for recreational shooting. If you are doing presentation-from-holster exercises I suggest you speak to your instructor about proper grip techniques. There are as many "correct" ways to hold a handgun as there are instructors out there.
Please don't flame me for my opinion on the type of music. Add whatever music you want to your video, just remember the purpose of the video is to instruct in handgun technique, not damage the viewer's ears. Voice should be louder than music, not the other way around.
Roger, dodger. This is the first complaint about the "background" music that has merit.
Weird, though, that some folks say the music volume level is fine and others say it drowns out the voice. I don't have a problem hearing my own voice on any of the computers in my lab. I've never watched this on a laptop (should try that here) or on anybody else's desktop box.
I was looking for vids on learning to shoot and I found yours. When I heard Brand X, it put a big smile on my face. It took me back to my youth and carefree days of listening to progressive and fusion music. Unfortunately not too many people can appreciate this exquisite genre. Marty, you are a man of good taste
Ah...another Brand X convert from the olden daze. Glad to see there are still some in captivity. Now, if I could only get people to concentrate on the front sight blade...
First time somebody recognized the piece. Most of the comments about the background tunage has been of the "Hey, man, the music is too loud/dumb/annoying" genre.
I was a Brand X fan during the Collins era. Collins participated in a lot of side projects for which he received little recognition, but in which he had a big impact. Brand X is one of the notable exceptions.
Damn I just went shooting yesterday and I forgot about trying this technique. I have a Sigma as well. My shooting skills suck, because I can't hit jack with it, I don't know if it's me or the gun. I'm sure it's just me, at least I hope it is. I will have to give this a try next month.
It does feel odd, since the hand naturally wants to land in a different place on the backstrap. But that's kinda the point of the exercise; to intentionally place your hand in a position that feels a little odd but aligns the forces properly.
Anyway, try it out and see for yourself. Love to hear back from you whether it works better or not.
Thanks for posting this. This really works. I wasted money on new sights and should have watched your training video first. Are you going to do a video on polishing the feed ramp..?
I have no plans to make any gunsmithing vids because I'm just an amateur. Yeah, I've been doing it for a long time, but it's not a profession for me.
If you have a Dremel, some felt polishing wheels, and a can of auto body rubbing compound, then you are set. It's not hard to figure out on your own. The curve of the polishing wheel fits the inside curve of the ramp. Just keep buffing until the rough grooves in the surface of the ramp go away, and you're done.
nice video. i like your ideas. my grip has always shared the recoil between both arms. however, with 1911 type handguns (like mine), getting a proper grip is complicated for various reasons. one, many people have a problem engaging the grip safety when their right thumb is resting on the thumb safety. and two, with your twisting technique, it makes contact with the grip safety an even bigger challenge. i think i need to just install an extended grip safety. any thoughts?
Your grip is kinda odd. If your thumb is riding on top of the thumb safety then don't you get slide burn? My thumb has always been below the safety when firing. And when you turn your hand the grip safety should be even more securely pressed home by the web and palm of your hand.
My Charles Daly Field has the beavertail with the extended lower. My Kimber Gold Match has the normal beavertail. My Para-Ordinance P14-45 has the stock grip safety. They all work quite well with this technique.
The Sigma is a pile. incredibly bad. At least, my copy is. I've heard from other Sigma owners that the later ones are a lot better. You need to go on rec.guns or other newsgroups and ask around.
I have learned more from this vid than any other in how to hold the gun. Your way of aligning the barrel with the hand position opened my eyes. Thanks!!
But I would re-do this vid and lower the music volume to barely hearing it in the back. I DO however like the music selection!!
Yeah, I'll keep that in mind for when I deal with the three million other requests that I do the same...oh, wait! I already mentioned that in the video piece description, didn't I? Hmm.
No, mine is the all steel frame. There were several renditions of the K-9 and MK-40, some of which were plastic. The thing about the all steel frames is that they were capable of handling hot loads right out of the box and would run them all day long. A K-9 with 125 grain +P+ ammo is almost worth carrying as a backup to a .45 ACP. Heh.
great movie...and as you know bad bad bad music...to the point that its just to distracting. Maybe redo the video with out it? Very good information in the video though so thanks!
Hmm. Maybe it is time to redo this one. Enough people have complained that the tunage is a problem that I need to fix it, and the whole camera angle mess needs to be cleaned up as well.
I'll see if I can get some help re-filming this piece.
I am right handed but left eye dominant by default -- a retina problem leaves me with 20/50 blurry vision in my right eye, non-correctable. When I shoot I have both eyes open but turn my head to the right to line up my left eye with the sight. I assume you would recommend learning to shoot left handed?
In your case there may be some alternative. I don't know enough about the issue of abnormal vision and its compensation to know how to answer that. All I can tell you is that my friends and relatives with normal vision who shot strong hand/weak eye needed to fix their stance to make things work right.
I have one nephew whose right eye was lost in a childhood accident. He shoots left handed and does an adequate job. His handgun skills aren't great, but he can shoot a long arm just fine.
Nice instructional video, with good props also. (the guns are cool). I was surprised you instructed the other person to always shoot with both eyes open. I never have, but am looking forward to trying your grip technique as well as the both eyes open method next time on the range. By the way, I was wondering, what is your favorite handgun to shoot and carry, as I was considering getting one for both perposes.
Illinois does not have Shall/May Issue laws (along with Wisconsin, the only two remaining), so I do not carry. If I lived elsewhere my carry choice would still be a 1911 with a Kahr K9 or K40 as backup.
If you are going to carry it's because you foresee a condition under which your life or that of someone else depends on your proficiency with a sidearm. In that case the choice of firearm is secondary to your training. However, experts agree that larger calibers are better in these situations.
Marty, thank you for your advice. I had purchased my first gun, xdm9mm. I'm a beginner, a newb as you call it. I now know how hold it, I went to the range yesterday, and shot for the first time in my life. I'm right handed, I hold the gun with my right hand but my left eye is the dominant eye, I tried turning my head slightly to the right I dont think it helps. Should I try firing with both eyes open? Any other suggestions? Thank you.
Shooting with both eyes open is a prerequisite. Proper training calls for both eyes open even when shooting through a scope or red dot.
A buddy of mine used to shoot right handed and left eyed, too. It took him years to get rid of that habit. You should try tipping,or offhand, shooting. This is where you shoot with one hand, facing almost 90 degrees away from the target, and with your weak hand back on your hip away from the target. This position almost forces you to use your strong eye.
I like Springfield in general, since their stuff is universally good quality. For recreational and target shooting your choice of caliber is affected by many things such as ammunition cost & availability, recoil, noise, what other pieces you have or others you shoot with have, etc.
If your sidearm is a combat piece (carry or home defense) then your selection of calibers is limited to those beginning in "4." My choice is still the .45 ACP. I also keep some .40 S&Ws around, though.
I don't know about that. I only have the one Glock, the 19, but it feels pretty good in my hands. I never have a problem with the thing shifting around or what have you. Maybe a bigger caliber might cause me problems, but I don't think so. The ergonomics are pretty good.
A buck apiece. I used to shoot that thing at the LGS every week, but the shop closed down about the same time I finished a large contract. Since then my shooting has been sporadic and restrained. I still get out to Buffalo Range in Ottowa, Illinois when I get a chance.
i have a shooting test to keep my job coming up and i,ve been unacurate lately. we shoot with 38;s do u have any advice for me to acurately shoot short and long distance? ecspecialy long distance. great video !!
Oh, wow. If you need assistance with meeting a qualifying shoot then you should be asking your department's trainer. There's no dishonor in asking for professional help before a qualifying test.
Got a question, should your strong hand thumb ride on top of the safety on a 1911? All the top IPSC shooters hold the 1911's like that, but i'm apprehensive due to apparent "slide bite" if your thumb moves slightly to the right. any advice?
[Part 1 of 2] That's a solid question. I used to struggle with that a couple decades ago, but these days I am a lot less concerned about the position of my thumb on either hand than I am about the lower three fingers. As I explained above, the grip is like that of a sword, staff, or nunchaku. The lower three fingers are doing all the holding and squeezing, and the thumb is sorta along for the ride. The only thing the strong hand index finger does is put the pad on the trigger's sweet spot.
[Part 2 of 2] When I handle a 1911 my strong thumb is always below the safety. In the two handed position (modified Weaver stance) my weak thumb rests atop my strong thumb, whichever hand I am shooting with.
So, the weak hand thumb and forefinger are just sitting there. The lower three fingers are providing support and counterforce on top of the lower three fingers of the strong hand.
You should ask this same question of somebody who actually knows what they're talking about.
VERY VERY Cool but when you buy a pistol or any weapon of choice where do you get a license to actually use the gun do you get it at the store you purchased it from of do you get it from some where else AND
Do u need a lincense just to free shoot like in the forest shooting broken items that you bring with you?
I thought dry firing can bend your firing pin..
25286969 4 weeks ago
@25286969 you thought wrong :)
Haxxploits 3 weeks ago
@25286969 Dry firing a rimfire piece is a bad idea because the pin could make contact with the face of the barrel head. This is typical of low- and medium-cost .22s and things like that. However, on precision rimfire firearms even this danger is eliminated because the pin is prevented from contacting the head by limiting its travel.
On center fire pieces there is no problem because there's nothing for the pin to hit. And, the travel of the pin is limited by its carriage.
MartySchrader 2 weeks ago
Granted it may take some practice. But right off the bat the grip of the gun feels weak with this method. I cannot get a good solid feeling grip. Or maybe a someone should develop aftermarket recievers that have a canted grip. LOL
pjanak 4 months ago
@pjanak I dig. The lower three fingers of your hand have less purchase on the front strap, not a thing to instill confidence in your grip. If you have small hands and a large pistol this technique may be unusable -- a small woman holding a DE, for instance, prolly can't get enough finger meat on the front strap for it to work. Most men, however, will find that the heel of the hand will swallow the back strap sufficiently for the pistol to remain firmly embedded in the hand.
MartySchrader 4 months ago
Sigma is the worst pistol made by man??? Exaggerate much? It's probably more reliable than that DE you have.
voodazz 6 months ago
@voodazz I am not going to bother making a vid showing a breakdown of why my Sigma is such a pile of crap. However, I am told by numerous other Sigma owners that S&W made some serious changes in the pistol to improve its reliability. I sure hope so, because it couldn't get any worse.
Oh, and that DE has never, not ever, NOT EVER ONCE failed to chamber, fire, or cycle. I guess that's what happens when you spend $1100 on a pistol.
MartySchrader 5 months ago
@MartySchrader I'm not trying to be a troll, or upset you in anyway. But, I own a Sigma 9mm, and it has never failed to chamber, fire, or cycle. The only thing that has happened was the slide didn't lock back when I was out of rounds. But, that was because of the slide, not the gun itself. I bought the Sigma in February of 2011. I am not sure the differences between mine and yours since your Sigma is probably the first generation. The only argument I have about my Sigma is the hard trigger pull.
treysturgeon 5 months ago
@treysturgeon I meant the magazine not the slide.
treysturgeon 5 months ago
@treysturgeon Oh, right -- you mean the magazine follower didn't push the slide lock up into battery. I dig it. Anyway, I'm glad your Sigma is a well-behaved piece. As I have already stated multiple times, there is ample evidence that S&W changed the course of Sigma engineering long after my unit was produced (12 years or so ago). I've read plenty of guys on rec.guns who said what you've said, so I can believe it. It's just that my analysis of my generation Sigma remains valid for *that* piece.
MartySchrader 5 months ago
@voodazz It's actually pretty well known and well agreed-upon within the firearms community that S&W's first foray into the polymer handgun market was a tremendous failure...
CheeseSteakJim 2 months ago
@voodazz
I tend to agree with him...I own a sigma and it's got one of the heaviest trigger pulls out of every gun I own and is it the most inconsistent one I own in terms of accuracy.
rzvb100 1 month ago
Thanks for the tip it works!!!!!
blase410 6 months ago
@blase410 Glad I could help.
MartySchrader 6 months ago
No shit, your wrist doesn't line up with eye because of your shoulder. That's why the training is so far behind body mechanics. I'm glad you posted this Mr Schrader. I'm going to holler at you (if I can).
XGCScrappy 8 months ago
@XGCScrappy You miss the point. This technique is about lining up the bore with the wrist and forearm, *not* the eye. You gotta move your head over towards the strong hand to line up your eye with the sights.
Refer to PM.
MartySchrader 8 months ago
@XGCScrappy He is no "hollaback" girl.
Just4Th3Lulz 6 months ago
@Just4Th3Lulz I did, but I will not argue with him. I used that same technique with my magnums and 45 at the beginning. After getting trained in proper grip I don't have to anymore because every time I go to the range I shoot over 200 pistol rnds and spend at least a 100 shooting my rifles to reinforce my training so I can properly train my students to repeat the same grip whether its an ar, 1911, glock, sub khar, shotgun, magnum. He's speaking to recreational shooters.
XGCScrappy 6 months ago
im still kinda confused. couldnt u just change the direction of your wrists? if i was pointing straight and turned my wrist all the way to the right in a 90 degree angle ovbiously its not centered with my forarm. so cant i just adjust the angle of my wrist inside of changing my grip? thanks corey
CoreyRegalado 8 months ago
@CoreyRegalado Changing the direction of your wrist just changes the angle of recoil relative to your forearm. The problem is one of offset, and that can only be addressed by the location of the backstrap relative to your hand. By changing that you align the recoil with the bones.
Ideally you'd want the barrel to come out about where your third finger is so that the recoil would be *directly* in line with your forearm. Competition single shot pistols have the barrel as low as they can get.
MartySchrader 8 months ago
What was the second gun he presented?
kmoney1491 8 months ago
@kmoney1491 The Kahr K9. It's a 9mm Parabellum single stack auto. Mine was one of the original "black steel" models with some phunky machining on the frame and slide, so I had the whole thing nickel plated to slick it up. After that it became a really sweet shooter. The modern ones are stainless.
MartySchrader 8 months ago
this doesn't work for left eye dominant
IPSC4fun 8 months ago
@IPSC4fun Sure it does. Shoot with your left hand. I use this technique when I shoot with my left hand/eye.
I have a nephew who is right handed but whose sight is limited to his left eye. I taught him to shoot left handed this way.
MartySchrader 8 months ago
excellent info man. Just like the old Army day training!!
MuadDibArrakis 8 months ago
@MuadDibArrakis Hmm. This is actually about relaxed, recreational shooting, but whatever works, eh?
MartySchrader 8 months ago
That was a very informative video, but the humor in the ending credits was a little forced.
But overall, nice job!!
teddyd30 9 months ago
@teddyd30 Hmm. I suppose so, but I didn't really need to force it. The humor chambered quite nicely. [cough]
MartySchrader 9 months ago
Why is the sigma a horrible gun?
zooey787 11 months ago
@zooey787 Well, I've heard from other Sigma owners that they have had good luck with theirs. Perhaps S&W made some serious improvements in the piece after mine was made. My experience was that the trigger mechanism is terribly inconsistent, draggy, and overall foul. The slop between the frame rail inserts and the slide provides for even more inconsistency in the trigger mechanism, plus some weirdness in how the sear breaks. The extractor assembly is a horror unto itself. There's more if you want
MartySchrader 11 months ago
@MartySchrader Mille grazie! (: If you don't mind me asking, how long ago did you purchase your Sigma?
zooey787 11 months ago
@zooey787 Mine was actually a range gun originally. So, I got it used with several thousand rounds through it already in all likelihood. However, the piece was not all clapped out and used up; in fact, the wear was fairly even and not deep at all. I got this thing about ten years ago.
MartySchrader 10 months ago
Find a good pistol instructor is a great suggestion. Hands on instruction can't be beat. Additionally, one can gleen a wealth of good shooting pointers by observing Todd Jarrets shooting style. Comes down to the basics sight picture, trigger control(along with grip), and follow through; which leads to recoil management. Thanks
tactom51 1 year ago
@tactom51 TJ is one of the finest, but certainly not the only one. I'm not really sure how many of these training videos are really all that valuable. This one is just a single idea stretched out for five minutes (heh).
You are correct that one-on-one instruction can't be beat. A real instructor can watch your hands when you fire and observe things about how you are responding to the firearm that you are unaware of yourself. There's no substitute for that.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Didn't you used to host that painting show, the one with the "puffy little clouds"?
HelloMcfly007 1 year ago
@HelloMcfly007 The puffy little clouds with holes all clustered around the center. Yeah, that was me.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
why do you retrack the slide after you show how to handle the gun?
jassoe 1 year ago
@jassoe Safety anal retention. In purist's terms, if a firearm leaves your line of sight then it has been loaded and charged -- by elves, demons, or space aliens -- until you prove otherwise. It's probably not necessary for me to go through that hassle, but there's always some git that will chime in with "You didn't exercise proper firearms handling safety!" if I don't do it. [sigh]
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Ok I'm back, not sure if it helped improve my aim since it was really bad to start with(low left) but I am sure it helped as I was figuring out all the other things I needed to work on. Seems right to grip it like this.
I put a few reviews of the FNX9 and my shooting up.
lookitcrashed 1 year ago
@lookitcrashed Well, at least I could help with something. I'll check out your FN review vids later.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Great tip... I tried in a drive by and got great results.... Joke.. No I try'd it at the range with my .45 and my wrist feels good after fifty rounds... Thx
readyred415 1 year ago
@readyred415 Coolness. Did you notice any change in your groups?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
I almost didnt want to watch, im glad I did! I can notice the difference doing it just sitting here. I have the new FNX 9, I'll try it with the different backstraps it comes with.
Thanks!
lookitcrashed 1 year ago
@lookitcrashed Glad to be of help. If this technique provides any better aiming come back here with an After Action Report, eh?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Thanks for the aiming technique!
dogsfirst 1 year ago
@dogsfirst You are quite welcome.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
I actually figured this out yesterday after being frustrated with my sig shooting lower than what I was aiming. I just read on the Sig Facebook, some guy linked me to your video. I'm glad this is a correct technique! I was worried my wrist turning was due to my hand size or something, but once I did that, wow it was night and day difference.
Boostinmister2 1 year ago
@Boostinmister2 Hey, I'm glad this little piece helped out. Be sure to look around for other instructional videos up here on YT. There are lots of other folks who actually know what they're doing providing instruction here.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Id like to learn how to shoot one day.
lilfisticuffs 1 year ago
@lilfisticuffs Look around for a shooting instructor in your area. The easiest thing to do is go to a local gun shop (NOT a sporting goods store) and ask around about shooting instruction. Somebody will know of an instructor who can train you.
A typical introductory shooting course will set you back $100 plus ammo, range fees, etc. Well worth it.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Great informative vid. Thanks :)
sadnessinside123 1 year ago
@sadnessinside123 My pleasure. It's been so long since I've been to the range I'll have to see if I can remember to do this myself next time.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Great video! I'm 30 years old and I've been shooting guns since I was 8 with my Dad and family. I haven't been shooting in a few monhts but I cannot wait to try out this new technique. I got frustrated with the accuracy of some pistols. My favorite is the Beretta 92FS. I'm very accurate with that. My only quip is the background music is a little loud.
mrjustin5 1 year ago
Yeah, everybody hates the music. That's why I made some annotation about it.
My 96FS is just like your 92 except for being in .40 S&W instead of 9 mm Parabellum. Mine has had a little trigger and mainspring work plus the usual ramp polishing, extractor reshape, etc. I think you'll find that this technique helps you get the trigger finger isolated from the rest of the hand in double action, too. Let me know how it goes, eh?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
@MartySchrader Hello, Marty! Thanks for the reply! Yes, I will certainly let ya know how it goes! I'm a slim guy, light frame and so I figured it was my grip (Strength and mass or lack of) that was causing it. I went to a indoor shooting range and tried a few different pistols & was frustrated. I've since been trying to strengthen my forearm and grip, but I'm guessing this technique will be the key! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!
mrjustin5 1 year ago
my husband things romantic love music while fondling firearms is AWEsome!!!
crunchyconmama 1 year ago
Your husband has a bizarre standard for "romantic music" if he thinks Brand X is anything like Lionel Ritchie. Heh.
And by the way, I don't film myself "fondling" my firearms. I do that in the privacy of my own home, thank you very much.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
It sounds like im watching the weather channel, but its about shooting. epic!
paintdataint 1 year ago
Cloudy with a chance of falling lead.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
This advice actually helped correct my tendancy to shoot left of the bullseye.
For me the bigger issue was I am gripping to hard with the right hand and the act of pulling the trigger pulls the gun left. I increased my left hand grip and essentially only use the right hand to apply stability and pull the trigger.
gassmasher 1 year ago
Instructors will tell you that you need to isolate the movement of the trigger finger from the rest of your strong hand, even without the weak hand support. There are many ways to do that, but a good grip with the lower three fingers is how I learned.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
@Barfpoop interesting...a guy with a screen name barfpoop providing insight into music. Would think your area of expertize had more to do with a restroom.
Great video thanks I will use this at the range.
gassmasher 1 year ago
It takes all kinds to make an online village. My alter ego here is SomeUselessGeek, so make of that what you will.
Come back with an After Action Report if you notice any difference, eh?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
@MartySchrader ,,its called second grip, been teaching firearms for 8 years....
selphproklamed 1 year ago
@selphproklamed Ahh. Well. Nice to know I'm not alone in the use of this technique. I had never seen anybody else teaching it, though. Are there any vids from real instructors who talk about this?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Thanks. That's Brand X doing "Euthanasia Waltz," from Unorthodox Behavior. Doesn't anybody read the annotation? Or wait through the credits?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
great video. i like the "this old house" theme music too.
jcreamx23 1 year ago
"This Old, Moldy, Run Down, Clapped Out, Beater of a House?" I sure hope the tunes don't say that. Nonetheless, I'm glad you liked the video piece.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Great video. Im hopefully picking up my first pistol today. I have noticed in some videos of people shooting, the gun recoils to one side. Im assuming they are not griping it properly as you have shown. When I go to shoot, I will pay attention to how I have normally grip the handgun. Im sure this video will help alot.
USZ71 1 year ago
Coolness. Come back with an After Action Report, eh?
MartySchrader 1 year ago
yep I was griping it properly. But for some reason, I can hit every spray can, pop can, bottle etc. on every shot, but struggle with actual targets. haha Im not sure why... But the gun feels very comfortable in my hand, and is very accurate. Its a Beretta 92fs 9mm. (Italian made, not U.S.)
USZ71 1 year ago
Hmm. I used to have quite a bit of trouble with my US-made 96FS, the .40 S&W version of that pistol. I took it to The Gun Doctor in Roselle, IL. They lightened up the double action trigger and cleaned up the sear. After that it was a lot easier to hold good groups.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Don't like it I know the technique I'm a proffesional shooter myself I shoot straight a frame with the pistol comfortably in my hand the problem with ur style is u r stuck in the weaver stance
hrabs03 1 year ago
I don't mind being stuck in the Weaver stance. This is for recreational shooting, don't forget. I keep getting all theses questions and comments about combat shooting, and this is *clearly* not what I am trying to address here.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
i have to ask what are the advantages of a rifle and a hand gun. And is that a desert egal or a 1911
lokallize 1 year ago
What advantages are you talking about? Are you trying to compare rifles and handguns? They are very different. My piece here is just about recreational handgun shooting and has nothing to do with rifles. Sorry.
And yes, that's a Desert Eagle Mark XIX in .50 Action Express. I didn't show any of my 1911s in this piece.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
if you don't know the diffrance between deagle and a 1911 you should'nt leave any comments all 1911s look the same
with only minner diffrances between models
tlbjbjb 1 year ago
Be nice. We were all newbies at one time.
MartySchrader 1 year ago
Wow! Great vid and instruction....better accuracy and hand placement...oh and sorry brother, but I'm a musician. I don't know what people have been saying about the background music, but I sounds great! 5 Star vid all around!
1trae9 2 years ago
You make me blush. Aw, shucks...
MartySchrader 2 years ago
What you SHOULD do is demonstrate this yourself at the range and show the difference in the recoil action when you hold the gun the way so many do and your way, aligned with the forearm.
Metaphysicalman3 2 years ago
Hmm. I like that. Makes more sense, too, since the camera can capture the movement and the take can be slowed down to enhance the training aspect. Thanks for the suggestion.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Yah for sure Marty, I will check out more videos in the mean time but I a no sharpshooter haha.
mixwell1983 2 years ago
Never really thought of hand positions in shooting. I pick my 1911 up on Thursday so I will try to pick apart some advice on your and other videos to try to shoot as accurate as possible.
Thanks for the video.
mixwell1983 2 years ago
Sure thing. Scope around here on YT to find more training vids, some by people who actually know what they're talking about.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
In my mind using a modified Iscoceles stance/grip this system would not work out due to the angles and the fact that your face (eyes) are in the middle of the base of the triangle.
Or am I missing something here?
EESASTORM 2 years ago
Hmm. I am using a Weaver stance (something Todd Jarrett poo-poos) to put my piece up to eye level. My head moves and turns to the right to put my right eye into the sight line. It seems comfortable enough, and the angles all seem to fall into place.
Perhaps you could offer some counterpoint in a video response?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Well in a weaver stance..........which by the way is what I used to shoot before moving to the Iscoceles stance it might make sense. I will try to get out to the range to play with that this week.
As to a vid? I keep saying that I need to make more targeted vids. However at this point I am planning on making more politically motivated ones considering the situation here in Canada. I mean does it really matter how your gun lines up if..............you cannot even own them!!
Thanks!
EESASTORM 2 years ago
Thanks for tip. Next time I can actually shoot better with my desert eagle :)
duboman3 2 years ago
Heh. You still have to hang on to it, though. If it helps, let me know, eh?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Great video!
I just bought a Sigma for my first pistol, my heart sunk when you said it was lousy, well I've been having fun with it, without and problems whatsoever I might add.
longerino 2 years ago
Yeah, a couple of other folks have said the same thing. And as I have said before, it is likely that S&W fixed a bunch of the problems with the Sigma after mine was manufactured. It isn't possible for the piece to have gotten any worse. Best of luck with yours. Keep it clean, feed it well.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
thanks. the best i've seen on the subject. Todd Jarrett was trying to explain this but you did a better job
stander1983 2 years ago
Oh, please! Don't even *try* to use my name in the same breath as that of the sacred Todd!
This video piece is just for recreational handgun shooting. TJ is The Man for instruction on real competition shooting. This it the guy who won the IPSC Worlds, y'dig? But thanks for the praise, anyway.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Very nicely illustrated technique. Thanks for posting.
kiwitedferny 2 years ago
My pleasure. Come back with an After Action Report if you find this technique helpful, eh?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
@MartySchrader I certainly will. I might even make a vid for you!
Cheers
kiwitedferny 2 years ago
Hi, Marty. Great vid. I'm just getting into handguns myself. I grew up shooting rifles and thought I could just pick up a pistol and shoot. Was I wrong or what! I went to the range the other day and was shooting a S&W M&P 9mm and couldn't, for the life of me, hit the damn target. I did, however, do a lot better with my friend's Sig P226. I'm gonna try this next time and see if it helps. In the meantime, if there are any pointers you could give me/us, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
shizzlefoot 2 years ago
Hmm. I don't know what kind of general pointers I can offer for handgun shooting. This vid is just a simple idea for recreational shooters.
If you hunt through YT for [handgun instruction] you are bound to find lots of good instructional pieces.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
What song is this? Sounds like Billy Cobham on drums!
PocketGroove82 2 years ago
If you had watched the piece all the way through you'd have seen credits for Brand X. It was Phil Collins on percussion at that time.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
doh. thanks.
Brand X is some sick fusion! I had almost forgotten how awesome phil collins was before he started the whole pop thing.
PocketGroove82 2 years ago
Cool music.
12GaugeLosAngeles 2 years ago
Oh, c'mon. Doesn't anybody bother reading the video annotations?!?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Great vid! Wannabe milsimmer here, this REALLY increased my accuracy with my 1911, and if you the lesson in mind, it isn't a hassle to draw and grip your weapon properly. Thanks for sharing, 5/5
ihaveanoname2 2 years ago
Thanks. However, you'll note that this is really for recreational shooting. If you are doing presentation-from-holster exercises I suggest you speak to your instructor about proper grip techniques. There are as many "correct" ways to hold a handgun as there are instructors out there.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Please don't flame me for my opinion on the type of music. Add whatever music you want to your video, just remember the purpose of the video is to instruct in handgun technique, not damage the viewer's ears. Voice should be louder than music, not the other way around.
Liam1694u 2 years ago
Roger, dodger. This is the first complaint about the "background" music that has merit.
Weird, though, that some folks say the music volume level is fine and others say it drowns out the voice. I don't have a problem hearing my own voice on any of the computers in my lab. I've never watched this on a laptop (should try that here) or on anybody else's desktop box.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
I was looking for vids on learning to shoot and I found yours. When I heard Brand X, it put a big smile on my face. It took me back to my youth and carefree days of listening to progressive and fusion music. Unfortunately not too many people can appreciate this exquisite genre. Marty, you are a man of good taste
GTMOKID 2 years ago
Ah...another Brand X convert from the olden daze. Glad to see there are still some in captivity. Now, if I could only get people to concentrate on the front sight blade...
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Oh man. This is quite a treat. I'm learnib to shoot while listening to "Brand X - Euthanasia Waltz" .This tune was done in the 70's. Excellent choice
GTMOKID 2 years ago
First time somebody recognized the piece. Most of the comments about the background tunage has been of the "Hey, man, the music is too loud/dumb/annoying" genre.
I was a Brand X fan during the Collins era. Collins participated in a lot of side projects for which he received little recognition, but in which he had a big impact. Brand X is one of the notable exceptions.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Good Video!
TheStealthScorpion 2 years ago
Thank you.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Your welcome.
TheStealthScorpion 2 years ago
worked like a charm!!!ive gotten even better thxs Ray
bennra26008 2 years ago
Groovulous! Glad it worked out for you.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
That helped a lot at first. HIt almost everytime, then I started anticipating the kick & missed more.
satirycon7 2 years ago
Flinch affects everyone, even those who have been shooting for decades. Welcome to recreational handgun shooting.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Damn I just went shooting yesterday and I forgot about trying this technique. I have a Sigma as well. My shooting skills suck, because I can't hit jack with it, I don't know if it's me or the gun. I'm sure it's just me, at least I hope it is. I will have to give this a try next month.
ih8suvz 2 years ago
Report back after you try it out, eh?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Carpet people smell like granola and wicker. Does this technique apply to double handed shooting or single only?
HondaMasterTech 2 years ago
I use it both ways. The technique really should be the same, since the recoil forces act the same way regardless of one or two hands.
Not too many of us go about sniffing out carpet people.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
do you have marbles in your mouth?
greenwall100 2 years ago
Mrmph mph ump rm vmph.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice. I'll most definitely have to try this. It feels weird, but I imagine I would see some improvement.
willowhawk 2 years ago
It does feel odd, since the hand naturally wants to land in a different place on the backstrap. But that's kinda the point of the exercise; to intentionally place your hand in a position that feels a little odd but aligns the forces properly.
Anyway, try it out and see for yourself. Love to hear back from you whether it works better or not.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
now this is how you properly grip a pistol. Rob Leatham used to do this & Marty deconstructed it for us. thanks!
godkizzz 2 years ago
Wow! That's high praise. Thanks.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Worth watching!! Good instructions and very helpful.
Pinoyhotbolt07 2 years ago
Well! Glad I could be of help. Thanks for the praise.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. This really works. I wasted money on new sights and should have watched your training video first. Are you going to do a video on polishing the feed ramp..?
3RiversMI 2 years ago
Glad you found it helpful.
I have no plans to make any gunsmithing vids because I'm just an amateur. Yeah, I've been doing it for a long time, but it's not a profession for me.
If you have a Dremel, some felt polishing wheels, and a can of auto body rubbing compound, then you are set. It's not hard to figure out on your own. The curve of the polishing wheel fits the inside curve of the ramp. Just keep buffing until the rough grooves in the surface of the ramp go away, and you're done.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
I'll try that today. I tried holding it in this manner while watching the vid. To the range next.
satirycon7 2 years ago
Cool. Come back with an after action report, eh?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
thank you for sharing this!
tourbox1 2 years ago
My pleasure. Perhaps you can gain your own insight after trying this technique out.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
nice video. i like your ideas. my grip has always shared the recoil between both arms. however, with 1911 type handguns (like mine), getting a proper grip is complicated for various reasons. one, many people have a problem engaging the grip safety when their right thumb is resting on the thumb safety. and two, with your twisting technique, it makes contact with the grip safety an even bigger challenge. i think i need to just install an extended grip safety. any thoughts?
templetonrocks 2 years ago
Your grip is kinda odd. If your thumb is riding on top of the thumb safety then don't you get slide burn? My thumb has always been below the safety when firing. And when you turn your hand the grip safety should be even more securely pressed home by the web and palm of your hand.
My Charles Daly Field has the beavertail with the extended lower. My Kimber Gold Match has the normal beavertail. My Para-Ordinance P14-45 has the stock grip safety. They all work quite well with this technique.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Is the sigma really that bad?
BCUboi 2 years ago
The Sigma is a pile. incredibly bad. At least, my copy is. I've heard from other Sigma owners that the later ones are a lot better. You need to go on rec.guns or other newsgroups and ask around.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
I have learned more from this vid than any other in how to hold the gun. Your way of aligning the barrel with the hand position opened my eyes. Thanks!!
But I would re-do this vid and lower the music volume to barely hearing it in the back. I DO however like the music selection!!
Pinstripedtie 2 years ago
Music volume. Yeah, I'll make a note of that.
[ahem]
MartySchrader 2 years ago
maybe you would just want to turn down the music volume a bit and that would be a perfect background music
natassidog666 2 years ago
Yeah, I'll keep that in mind for when I deal with the three million other requests that I do the same...oh, wait! I already mentioned that in the video piece description, didn't I? Hmm.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Thanks for the tip! I never even thought about this problem. I tried it out on mine and your tip worked wonderfully.
kevinwisbith 2 years ago
Alright! That's the kind of feedback a hard-working videographer needs. 'Course, I can use it, too.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Got a question about your kahr. Is your poly frame chewed up by the slide?
my24939 2 years ago
No, mine is the all steel frame. There were several renditions of the K-9 and MK-40, some of which were plastic. The thing about the all steel frames is that they were capable of handling hot loads right out of the box and would run them all day long. A K-9 with 125 grain +P+ ammo is almost worth carrying as a backup to a .45 ACP. Heh.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
Ah I'm blind my bad. My dad's kahr cw-9 looks chewed after I field stripped it or maybe rough coming out of the mold or w/e.
my24939 2 years ago
both grips looked the same...
darkwingppk 2 years ago
Bad camera work. Sorry about that.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
great movie...and as you know bad bad bad music...to the point that its just to distracting. Maybe redo the video with out it? Very good information in the video though so thanks!
nooksak1 3 years ago
Hmm. Maybe it is time to redo this one. Enough people have complained that the tunage is a problem that I need to fix it, and the whole camera angle mess needs to be cleaned up as well.
I'll see if I can get some help re-filming this piece.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Marty
I am right handed but left eye dominant by default -- a retina problem leaves me with 20/50 blurry vision in my right eye, non-correctable. When I shoot I have both eyes open but turn my head to the right to line up my left eye with the sight. I assume you would recommend learning to shoot left handed?
PDM1967 3 years ago
In your case there may be some alternative. I don't know enough about the issue of abnormal vision and its compensation to know how to answer that. All I can tell you is that my friends and relatives with normal vision who shot strong hand/weak eye needed to fix their stance to make things work right.
I have one nephew whose right eye was lost in a childhood accident. He shoots left handed and does an adequate job. His handgun skills aren't great, but he can shoot a long arm just fine.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Marty,
Nice instructional video, with good props also. (the guns are cool). I was surprised you instructed the other person to always shoot with both eyes open. I never have, but am looking forward to trying your grip technique as well as the both eyes open method next time on the range. By the way, I was wondering, what is your favorite handgun to shoot and carry, as I was considering getting one for both perposes.
Scott
scottabergermd 3 years ago
Illinois does not have Shall/May Issue laws (along with Wisconsin, the only two remaining), so I do not carry. If I lived elsewhere my carry choice would still be a 1911 with a Kahr K9 or K40 as backup.
If you are going to carry it's because you foresee a condition under which your life or that of someone else depends on your proficiency with a sidearm. In that case the choice of firearm is secondary to your training. However, experts agree that larger calibers are better in these situations.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Marty, thank you for your advice. I had purchased my first gun, xdm9mm. I'm a beginner, a newb as you call it. I now know how hold it, I went to the range yesterday, and shot for the first time in my life. I'm right handed, I hold the gun with my right hand but my left eye is the dominant eye, I tried turning my head slightly to the right I dont think it helps. Should I try firing with both eyes open? Any other suggestions? Thank you.
aminakoyum 3 years ago
Shooting with both eyes open is a prerequisite. Proper training calls for both eyes open even when shooting through a scope or red dot.
A buddy of mine used to shoot right handed and left eyed, too. It took him years to get rid of that habit. You should try tipping,or offhand, shooting. This is where you shoot with one hand, facing almost 90 degrees away from the target, and with your weak hand back on your hip away from the target. This position almost forces you to use your strong eye.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
I was wondering how you like the xdm 9mm? I was considering getting the .40 cal version as my first handgun. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Scott
scottabergermd 3 years ago
I love the 9mm, I also s&w 40, the xdm9mm has a less recoil. a buddy of mine shot the 9, said it's more accurate than his 24/7
aminakoyum 3 years ago
I like Springfield in general, since their stuff is universally good quality. For recreational and target shooting your choice of caliber is affected by many things such as ammunition cost & availability, recoil, noise, what other pieces you have or others you shoot with have, etc.
If your sidearm is a combat piece (carry or home defense) then your selection of calibers is limited to those beginning in "4." My choice is still the .45 ACP. I also keep some .40 S&Ws around, though.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Too bad I own Glocks. The grip is so chunky it's unbareable to keep proper griping after the recoil. I have to keep reseting my grip.
clap5 3 years ago
I don't know about that. I only have the one Glock, the 19, but it feels pretty good in my hands. I never have a problem with the thing shifting around or what have you. Maybe a bigger caliber might cause me problems, but I don't think so. The ergonomics are pretty good.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
You are a fucking genius ! Greaaaaat Video !!!
zenanskig 3 years ago
Good video. I bet those .50 caliber rounds get pretty expensive!
stu106 3 years ago
A buck apiece. I used to shoot that thing at the LGS every week, but the shop closed down about the same time I finished a large contract. Since then my shooting has been sporadic and restrained. I still get out to Buffalo Range in Ottowa, Illinois when I get a chance.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
i have a shooting test to keep my job coming up and i,ve been unacurate lately. we shoot with 38;s do u have any advice for me to acurately shoot short and long distance? ecspecialy long distance. great video !!
tynina88 3 years ago
Oh, wow. If you need assistance with meeting a qualifying shoot then you should be asking your department's trainer. There's no dishonor in asking for professional help before a qualifying test.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Got a question, should your strong hand thumb ride on top of the safety on a 1911? All the top IPSC shooters hold the 1911's like that, but i'm apprehensive due to apparent "slide bite" if your thumb moves slightly to the right. any advice?
dirtyminded604 3 years ago
[Part 1 of 2] That's a solid question. I used to struggle with that a couple decades ago, but these days I am a lot less concerned about the position of my thumb on either hand than I am about the lower three fingers. As I explained above, the grip is like that of a sword, staff, or nunchaku. The lower three fingers are doing all the holding and squeezing, and the thumb is sorta along for the ride. The only thing the strong hand index finger does is put the pad on the trigger's sweet spot.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
[Part 2 of 2] When I handle a 1911 my strong thumb is always below the safety. In the two handed position (modified Weaver stance) my weak thumb rests atop my strong thumb, whichever hand I am shooting with.
So, the weak hand thumb and forefinger are just sitting there. The lower three fingers are providing support and counterforce on top of the lower three fingers of the strong hand.
You should ask this same question of somebody who actually knows what they're talking about.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Thanks for the advice!
dirtyminded604 3 years ago
Wow! I am right handed I tried this and I shot dead on three times in a row with my left hand
akfly45 3 years ago
excellent tip, and nice tune ;) Thanks
djsintek 3 years ago
VERY VERY Cool but when you buy a pistol or any weapon of choice where do you get a license to actually use the gun do you get it at the store you purchased it from of do you get it from some where else AND
Do u need a lincense just to free shoot like in the forest shooting broken items that you bring with you?
AND
was that a desert eagle
ps sorry this was long XD
PiviotownageDX 3 years ago