3-11 Unification Church -VS- Christianity DEBATE

[morrisondan]

"When you talk about the Trinity, you redfine the Trinity & change the meaning of the words, so that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, becomes 'PROSTITUTED' into a male/female relationship!"..

LOL!!!!! I miss Walter Martin!.

[j4270108]

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Moon's doctrine once again is against the Scriptures.

[clockguy2]

"We've got to work together." This statement could be the slogan for the coming one world church of the Anti-Christ that's spoken of in Revelation.

[iluvideos]

Dr. Martin kicks ass, and he kicks it hard

[TheChoice264]

Christians are pagan bullies

[flakcannon1]

Why this smart orthodox guy dont talk about contradicitonary in stupid old and new testament. I read that stupid books 3 times, it is writen from so many people. Some parts are writen from idiots and some parts are writen from super idiots. You must be really stupid to believe that this books come from god

[brunoklotz]

@flakcannon1

If God were to talk to us directly, he would surely not repeat the Bible. God is not limited to scriptures. God is our parent, and as such he has much more to say then what we read in the Bible.

[brunoklotz]

@flakcannon1

If God would speak to us directly he would among others tell us about his hope at the time of creation, of his utter frustration of the time of the fall, about his dissappointment with so many chosen people, with his hope for Jesus, with his heartbreak when Jesus was killed, and many more things. Surely also about his hope that the world understands Rev Moon and what he has to say.

[thomla7]

@brunoklotz at 3:40 that is EXACTLY what i said before, MOON is using the BIBLE to as a PLATFORM to PROMOTE his "CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY"

Like i said before, u use the or quote the bible in places that SUITE your BELIEF.

[brunoklotz]

@thomla7

Rev Moon is EXPL:AINING the Bible the way God sees the Bible. Rev Moon deciphers the Bible as no one did before him.

Check it out and you will see. Better inform yourself before you talk.

[UnitedBohol]

@brunoklotz :

ANSWER THIS PLS DONT MAKE EXCUSES; IS REV MOON DIDNT COMMIT ADULTERY?

[brunoklotz]

@UnitedBohol

Rev Moon is the man with the highest integrity.

[brunoklotz]

Martin Walter tries to contradict Rev Moon by the Bible. Well, the pharasees did the same with Jesus.

Amazing parallels.

We better learn from history.

[brunoklotz]

Its wrong to say that Jesus is greater than Rev Moon. Jesus was the Messiah, and Rev Moon IS the Messiah. So they are both great.

What does "greater" mean? Can only mean greater in love.

Both, the love of Jesus and the love of Rev Moon are incredible. No point to speculate whose love is bigger. You cannot measure it like a piece of wood.

[brunoklotz]

If we just take the Bible literally, we get nowhere.

We end up contradicting ourselves and being very unrealistic. No wonder that scientiest cannot follow that. I cannot blame them.

Truth must make sense.

[brunoklotz]

Dear Soranneo,

I think that 2000 years ago the pharasees told the disciples of Jesus to not follow Jesus, but rather to re-examine themselves, to stick to Moses and the scriptures and to attend the service in the synagoge on sabbath.

Amazing parallels.

[Arkanix]

I find this sort of biased though. I don't agree with either religion to be honest, but I prefer debates to be fair.

[soranneo]

That true! May be its time to reexamine yourself and think about going to a christian church. The reason he doesnt respresent you well is because he doesnt know what hes talking about and probably confused himself. Hes probably in unification because he just wanted to fit in some where. For all you know, he probably left unification already. Time for you to open your Bible and spend some quality time with the Lord one on one.

God bless

Keep the faith

Fight the good fight

Grace and peace

[Jonislol]

that may be but not necessarily true. I am surprised you think i do not read the bible but i do. It is a great source of inspiration, and i experience God through it. I think our faith/ beliefs have been misunderstood by many. anyway its not easy to have such a discussion over the internet like this but there you go.

As long as we all do good deeds and live the pure teaching of Jesus we will all get there in the end. :)

[brunoklotz]

@soranneo

If you compare Christian doctrine it with the teaching of Rev Moon, then you will see which one is more confusing.

Christian doctrine is not able to answer so many questions. And if they answer, the answer does not make any sense.

So it is not much point to go to christian churches to look for answers. Better study Rev Moons teaching. Those are an eye opener.

[brunoklotz]

@soranneo

You say, "Hes probably in unification because he just wanted to fit in some where."

What a poor viewpoint!! How little you understand his true motivation!

If you would have lived at Jesus time, you would have said the same thing about Peter. You would have told Peter: " Peter, you better go to the synagoege and listen to the pharasees! If you just need to fit in somewhere, thats the place to go."

[InDefenseofChrist]

Walter Martin is the only one there that knows the scripture...those lost unificationists.

[seahawkers101]

You could tell how the Unification guy is getting a lil mad.

[Bigfoot10203]

0:00 to 2:00 they cut him off!!!!

[micbaca]

4:00....loose translation of Korean....hahahaha what an insane comback?!! The commentator lists the reference and the blue suit dude is like,"I haven't heard it, so that isn't the case...". Blue suit dude, your religion is FAKE...as proved by documented quotes from your FAKE leader.

[micbaca]

From 0:00 to 2:00 Unification church gets OWNED......go Dr. martin!!!

[stopplayingchurch]

I love Jesus and I love Dr. Martin

[ukulelemike]

Helloooo! The greatest enemy is, neither was, communism-it is SATAN, and Moon is his puppet. Maroon!

[djtko19]

right, a puppet of Satan like you are spreading hatred throughout humanity. I think in Jesus' words it was" love thy neighbour"?

[Nephilim145]

wow the unification church is getting ate up. Don't mess with Walter and that bible. Just won't win.

[brunoklotz]

@Nephilim145

You said "the unification church is getting ate up", after seeing that video.

I wish you would study Divine Principle, and then you would see how much clearer everything becomes, how much more realistic, logical.

Christian doctrine is very irrational, compared to Divine Principle.

In such a discussion its very difficult to convey the content of DP. YOU have to take time and study it. Then you will see who really gets "eaten up".

[korbotch]

@brunoklotz "Christian doctrine is very irrational, compared to Divine Principle

" CAN U TELL ME WHAT christian doctines that are IRRATIONAL? why do u say its irrational? upon which basis do derive your conclusions upon?

[brunoklotz]

@korbotch

Study rev Moons teaching on reverendsunmyungmoon org and you will see for yourself. And  dont forget to ask God sincerely, unbiased.

[tiger507]

@brunoklotz We have Scripture, THE BIBLE! THE MAXIMUM AUTHORITY FOR ALL! I will ask God sincerely, to give me His Holy Spirit to understand WHAT HIS WORD SAYS not what I want it to say!

[brunoklotz]

@tiger507

For me God is the highest authority, and He is bigger then the Bible. You cannot confine God to the Bible. And God can give new revelation whenever He wants. Or do you think He will adjust to YOUR concepts?

[xomiszdaniii]

@brunoklotz ,Christians are Biased against all that would exalt itself above Jesus Christ. Christians never claimed to be a religion, contrary to opinion. Jesus ways are far above mans ways, for anything other than John 14:6 is a liar and deceiver. Because they are IICorinthians 4:3. So all your revelations and proclamations are nil when in the Light of Holy Writ. Possibly from a bit of undigested food perhaps.

[brunoklotz]

@Nephilim145

What a nonsense!

[ceelo4]

why does he revert to communism? wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING?

[BeautifulTULIP]

Scripture says SIN is the problem from which man must be saved to enter heaven, not Communism.

[djtko19]

Communism is sin.

[ajchann123]

djtko19: that's wrong chief. Matthew 20: 1-16. Basically, men hired at different hours, working for different amounts of time earn the same amount of money. You only see communism from a world view.

[djtko19]

Well, ajchann123, maybe the economic system called communism is not so bad, other than the fact that it doesn't work. But Communism is basically a totalitarian system that outlaws religion and religious thought. And the only reason that some Communist countries still have religion is because even Communists cannot control everything in a country. And I just don't see how you are bring in Bible verses to support Communism? if that's what you're trying to do.

[Secretknowledge75]

Perhaps a dead rat in a black robe painted white.

[ryeroe1975]

oh man! Help the modern world? An extension of christianity? The unification church doesnt even acknowledge the Deity of Christ. The Unification church is a dead rat in a white robe

[Merkkyrr]

wow, that is one dumb dude.

[WeSympathize]

Actually, I stay away from fur. It's just plain mean to do that to an animal.

[Badmoon18]

.

Exactly,

They are wolves in sheep clothing.

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[333pro333]

Communism is nothing compared to the heresies they teach. They are wolves in sheep clothing.

[newbirth35]

Remember when this was recorded. :)