ok... I know it may sound like a silly question.. but what is the point of doing this? How does doing a spectral analysis help? What are the benefits? I do a little mixing of my own tracks and think I have a pretty good ear but exactly how does it help? what am I looking for in the overall and what is it I dont want to see? thanks
@lindseyjondawson It's in the comments...to prove GOS is using full modal voice and not falsetto.
You can use this software to see whether you have full resonance or not. Some of us don't hear our voices, even recorded, as thoroughly as we should. Also, it's fun to show that you have a huge singer's formant ;D
Honest question: how many of the harmonics are artifacts caused by the clipping? How many harmonics do you get if you put about ten additional feet of distance between the mic and yourself?
@TarantulaTown Clipping? Explain what you mean by that, if you please.
I can't answer the distance question as GermanOperaSinger is not me and I don't know his mike setup. I know that mine remain with the mike farther away, but I have it far away in any case because my voice is large.
This shows the resonating frequencies of GermanOperaSinger's voice, in that video I responded to. Resonating frequencies are called formants, and operatically trained voices should have formants evenly spaced up to about the 4kHz line (you can read that on the left of the video).
The lines around 3kHz represent the ring in a tenor's voice.
Basically, it's like an oscilloscope, but many times over at once. Does that help? =D
Yes I know. They made me laugh in his original video posting I just forgot to mention it ;P it was like "ha. haha. ha. this is fun" LOL ;-)
yes funny annotation ;p ouch indeed but hey it's nice that he is *proving* that what he has been saying is legitimate, so if you don't like it... lump it. X-P
What I find interesting is that his falsetto is so powerful now that it can understandably be mistaken for ***his*** full voice. But his FULL voice cannot be mistaken for "falsetto", if you know what I mean with that distinction =D
ShawDAMAN: Yes its fun =D High B natural isn't really that difficult. C is a little trickier - though I did manage to sing a half decent one in that video.
aaronsande: We talked a few months ago about a classically trained falsetto vs. a 'pop' falsetto, I believe. My falsetto is along the lines of what a countertenor would use - it's developed. (would you agree?)
I agree completely...and was going to comment that you would make an excellent countertenor as well, but didn't want to be pelted with rotten fruit...
Would you kindly show us the wide-band version, too if it is available? For it may be easier to see the difference between falsetto & mixed (or full) voice!
@halpa8 I would be happy to, but you must explain to me what you mean by "wide-band version". Do you mean the scope instead of this scroll spectrograph?
I find the scope to be less useful in analyzing more than one note, as it has no history...
I mean a "scroll" spectrogram by wide-band, say 300Hz, analysis, not aroud 50. For it is easier to see the overall energy distribution around 3Khz region and others as well.
I discovered in the process that you must compare one voice to itself in this analysis to get the best results. Clearly MY reinforced falsetto and my full voice are different.
And it's a matter of freedom. This reinforced falsetto from GOS is probably still easier for him to sing than when he uses voix mixte. That's another clue it is falsetto.
What type of microphone were you using?
douchecake 4 months ago
@douchecake You have to ask GermanOperaSinger This was an analysis of an audio file he made.
aaronsande 4 months ago
ok... I know it may sound like a silly question.. but what is the point of doing this? How does doing a spectral analysis help? What are the benefits? I do a little mixing of my own tracks and think I have a pretty good ear but exactly how does it help? what am I looking for in the overall and what is it I dont want to see? thanks
lindseyjondawson 11 months ago
@lindseyjondawson It's in the comments...to prove GOS is using full modal voice and not falsetto.
You can use this software to see whether you have full resonance or not. Some of us don't hear our voices, even recorded, as thoroughly as we should. Also, it's fun to show that you have a huge singer's formant ;D
aaronsande 11 months ago
Honest question: how many of the harmonics are artifacts caused by the clipping? How many harmonics do you get if you put about ten additional feet of distance between the mic and yourself?
TarantulaTown 1 year ago
@TarantulaTown Clipping? Explain what you mean by that, if you please.
I can't answer the distance question as GermanOperaSinger is not me and I don't know his mike setup. I know that mine remain with the mike farther away, but I have it far away in any case because my voice is large.
aaronsande 1 year ago
HOW DO I GET THIS DONE FOR MY VOICE?
aspsingr 2 years ago
Search for "spectrograph software free" or "spectral analysis free", or you can ask mradaChris below, who can link you to a download he has set up.
aaronsande 2 years ago
i'm 12 years old and what is this
xu3369 2 years ago
This shows the resonating frequencies of GermanOperaSinger's voice, in that video I responded to. Resonating frequencies are called formants, and operatically trained voices should have formants evenly spaced up to about the 4kHz line (you can read that on the left of the video).
The lines around 3kHz represent the ring in a tenor's voice.
Basically, it's like an oscilloscope, but many times over at once. Does that help? =D
aaronsande 2 years ago
Very interesting and useful.
By the way the little chuckles after hitting the high note at 1:42 or so gave me a good laugh. ;-D
ShawDAMAN 2 years ago
@ShawDAMAN LOL
Well those were GOS's original chuckles! I didn't even edit out the comment at the end, though I did make an annotation about it ;D
aaronsande 2 years ago
Yes I know. They made me laugh in his original video posting I just forgot to mention it ;P it was like "ha. haha. ha. this is fun" LOL ;-)
yes funny annotation ;p ouch indeed but hey it's nice that he is *proving* that what he has been saying is legitimate, so if you don't like it... lump it. X-P
ShawDAMAN 2 years ago
True.
What I find interesting is that his falsetto is so powerful now that it can understandably be mistaken for ***his*** full voice. But his FULL voice cannot be mistaken for "falsetto", if you know what I mean with that distinction =D
aaronsande 2 years ago
Yes I know what you mean. :)
ShawDAMAN 2 years ago
ShawDAMAN: Yes its fun =D High B natural isn't really that difficult. C is a little trickier - though I did manage to sing a half decent one in that video.
aaronsande: We talked a few months ago about a classically trained falsetto vs. a 'pop' falsetto, I believe. My falsetto is along the lines of what a countertenor would use - it's developed. (would you agree?)
GermanOperaSinger 2 years ago
I agree completely...and was going to comment that you would make an excellent countertenor as well, but didn't want to be pelted with rotten fruit...
aaronsande 2 years ago
Would you kindly show us the wide-band version, too if it is available? For it may be easier to see the difference between falsetto & mixed (or full) voice!
halpa8 2 years ago
@halpa8 I would be happy to, but you must explain to me what you mean by "wide-band version". Do you mean the scope instead of this scroll spectrograph?
I find the scope to be less useful in analyzing more than one note, as it has no history...
aaronsande 2 years ago
I mean a "scroll" spectrogram by wide-band, say 300Hz, analysis, not aroud 50. For it is easier to see the overall energy distribution around 3Khz region and others as well.
halpa8 2 years ago
I think I understand, but this track may be too noisy for that. You basically mean a "bird's eye view" right? Lower frequency resolution?
Or did you mean to zoom in? I'm not sure zooming in is going to show us anything we can't already see. But I didn't think that was what you meant.
aaronsande 2 years ago
Very interesting analysis. Besides, this SG is very clear! Many thanks!
halpa8 2 years ago
@halpa8 You are welcome. Yes, I adjusted the minimum dB as high as possible (without erasing formants) to remove the noise from the mike, etc.
aaronsande 2 years ago
Thanks - this really helped. Will comment more later - have to go in a few minutes.
GermanOperaSinger 2 years ago
@GermanOperaSinger My pleasure! Don't forget you have to accept my video response in your inbox before it will show up under your video!
aaronsande 2 years ago
@aaronsande I see head voice.
mradaChris 2 years ago
Well, as I said in the other video just now:
I discovered in the process that you must compare one voice to itself in this analysis to get the best results. Clearly MY reinforced falsetto and my full voice are different.
And it's a matter of freedom. This reinforced falsetto from GOS is probably still easier for him to sing than when he uses voix mixte. That's another clue it is falsetto.
aaronsande 2 years ago