برادر انقلابی پاسدار ان قلاب سابق، فکل کراوتی و به اصطلاح مخأف ان قلاب امروز ، ما مردم ایران انقده گاو و گوسفند هستیم که حمایتت میکنیم، میریم جلو پاسداران رژیم (که خودت به وجودش آوردی) سینه سپر میکنیم، به گائیدن خودمون رو میدیم تا اخوندهایی رو که خودت آوردی ایران سرنگون بشن تا تو از آمریکا بیای ایران و بشی پرزیدنت و ۴۰ سال هم سواری بگیری از ما این ملت خر و احمق. زنده باد سازگارا
@toohnooch as much as I wanted to give a good response to your nonsense, I think your words alone speak volumes as to how uneducated, uninformed, and stupid you are. what a waste of time..
یا شما دیوانه هستید یا کور مگر اینهمه فساد و جنایت را نمیبینید، ۹۰% از شما و این رژیم متنفر هستند فقط ۱۰% که منافع دارند و میلیاردها تومن از اموال مردم را به تاراج بردند با شما هستند.
I absolutely hate Islam, if this is the face of it. A bunch of psycotic, fearmongering, violent murderes. Fuck these bastards. A threat to humanity for sure. The Koran in one hand, and a bloody knife in the other. Despicable.
with all do respect mads888, you need to look in to other religions as well! There are many ways to accomplish a goal, but bottom line its all about control and manipulation!
the Jews, the Christians, the Muslims, they are all the same with similar or identical agendas! the only difference is their means of achiving their goals!
Religion has always been a tool to control and manipulate the masses.
Yeah right. you can't have democracy ruled by a book written some thousands years ago. When are these idiots going to learn? This guy was an asshole then and still is. He still claims that he is a child of the revolution that fucked up the country thoroughly. But I like many others have been transformed from revolutionary ideology version of Islam to a democracy and liberal version of Islam. Now thats bullshit in its purest form.
You really need to get your facts right and look a bit more open-mindedly at religion, which, like any other ideology has its ups and downs. A lot of clerics in Iran are supporting people. In fact there are fewer clerics behind Ahmadi-nejhad than there are in the Green Wave.
I got them straight all right. Name one nation ruled by a religious book that has a true democracy. Where is that open-minded religion youre referring too? Buddhism? I dont think so. All those clerics you mentioned who are supporting the people. Why now, after 30 years of tyranny? I tell you why, its because they are afraid of their own asses. They really dont give a shit about the people. They know that their days are numbered and want to be on the safe side.
Read my post again. I didin't say "run a country using religion", I said "have an open mind about religion".
And secondly. it seems to me that you didn't get your facts straight. If you had, you would have, for example, known that many of these clerics are, and have been, against mixing religion and politics.
What do you know about history of Iran? Reading a few bits of news about Iran doesn't make one an expert. Until recently even news agencies weren't very clear on politics in Iran.
We already had a nation like Turkey in the 50's. But the CIA enforced a corrupt dictatorship. And Iranians are not like islamic mental slaves anymore. That why they march in the millions to bring down the Islamic Republic.
Liberating oneself from mental slavery can be a challenge.
So if at first Persians did not succeed the first time around, now is the time to try again. The Americans are not as stupid and narrow-minded as they were when they did 'regime change' in the 50's.
Today some Americans are recognizing that islamic insanity is a huge enemy of everyone, including enemy of the unfortunate brainwashed muslims all over the place.
I beg your pardon, but Turks are increasingly falling back into islamic ideology and becoming less and less secular. Big parts of Turkey don't subscribe to the secular ideas of Kamal Ataturk, and had it not been for the Army, we would have been witnessing a Turkish version of the Islamic Republic today.
Well at least the Turkish army are keeping the islamic insanity at bay.
One area of Persian society can do the same as the Turks; because at the moment, the Turkish-ness has a greater victory over the arab's islamic insanity than Persian pride has.
If the army is not rooting out the islamic insanity of foreign/arab invaders, then the army would not be worthy of its name.
The role of the army is to maintain law, order and the integrity of the society.
Insane islam is FOREIGN to Turks and also to Persians. Persians should emulate the Turks in this regard; otherwise islamic insanity will cause Iranians to swallow some bombs soon
I use the word 'Persian' because that name is the more enduring legacy of the indigenous people of that area
1. By calling all Iranians "Persian", you're offending groups of minority in Iran. And this legacy you're talking about was 2500 years ago. Iranians have done many things since then that they are proud of. The 1979 revolution is in fact one of them.
2. After the revolution Iran was supposed to implement a regime based on modernized Islam...
...(if you want to know what that means, read some of Dr Shariaati's books. People turned muslim after reading his books. As an Atheist even I find his books enlightening, though they will never make me believe in God :) ) But a group of ultra-conservatives who disagreed with modernising religion, didn't believe in democracy and fundamentally disagreed with Khomeini, managed to get some power and started killing off many Iranian intellectuals...
And because of the mess the country was in with the Iraq war and all the sanctions, a lot of the original founders of the republic did not realise what was happening until it was too late. This ultra-conservative group is the one who has taken power now and Ahmadinejhad is one of them (It's argued that Khameneie isn't one of them, and is just afraid of losing power)...
These original founders started realising the flaw in their original plans for a regime based on religion (modernised or not) and had a change of heart (this is what Sazegara is talking about in this video). They are the ones who started the reformist movement in 1997 when Khatami was elected for presidency.
@roni6124 yeah true now turkey is being more islamic & ataturk's ideas are in trash of history while he's roting in hell, soon turkish women will have the freedom to get education without having to take off their headscarfs in schools and they can freely cretisis israel's crimes without being accused of antisemmitism which is great, gov serving its people instead of some foreign agenda, not running to join the EU the Turkish economy is the 18th in the world like 20 times bigger then greeks
برادر انقلابی پاسدار ان قلاب سابق، فکل کراوتی و به اصطلاح مخأف ان قلاب امروز ، ما مردم ایران انقده گاو و گوسفند هستیم که حمایتت میکنیم، میریم جلو پاسداران رژیم (که خودت به وجودش آوردی) سینه سپر میکنیم، به گائیدن خودمون رو میدیم تا اخوندهایی رو که خودت آوردی ایران سرنگون بشن تا تو از آمریکا بیای ایران و بشی پرزیدنت و ۴۰ سال هم سواری بگیری از ما این ملت خر و احمق. زنده باد سازگارا
icefisherman5000 10 months ago
i like the fact that hes white! lol
Footballist2011 1 year ago
@toohnooch as much as I wanted to give a good response to your nonsense, I think your words alone speak volumes as to how uneducated, uninformed, and stupid you are. what a waste of time..
roni6124 1 year ago
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آقای خامنهای
یا شما دیوانه هستید یا کور مگر اینهمه فساد و جنایت را نمیبینید، ۹۰% از شما و این رژیم متنفر هستند فقط ۱۰% که منافع دارند و میلیاردها تومن از اموال مردم را به تاراج بردند با شما هستند.
مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی
مرگ بر خامنه ای جنایت کار
sohrab2012 2 years ago
sounds like a criminal gang enterprise.
MrHeraclioFournier 2 years ago
I absolutely hate Islam, if this is the face of it. A bunch of psycotic, fearmongering, violent murderes. Fuck these bastards. A threat to humanity for sure. The Koran in one hand, and a bloody knife in the other. Despicable.
mads888 2 years ago
with all do respect mads888, you need to look in to other religions as well! There are many ways to accomplish a goal, but bottom line its all about control and manipulation!
the Jews, the Christians, the Muslims, they are all the same with similar or identical agendas! the only difference is their means of achiving their goals!
Religion has always been a tool to control and manipulate the masses.
YashMJ 2 years ago
he is koni
iran1976 2 years ago
fuck him.
sasangis 2 years ago
Mousavi supported the Fatwa issued against Salman Rushdie. That's not a man of peace.
conciousgood 2 years ago
Yeah right. you can't have democracy ruled by a book written some thousands years ago. When are these idiots going to learn? This guy was an asshole then and still is. He still claims that he is a child of the revolution that fucked up the country thoroughly. But I like many others have been transformed from revolutionary ideology version of Islam to a democracy and liberal version of Islam. Now thats bullshit in its purest form.
mbzbugsy 2 years ago
You really need to get your facts right and look a bit more open-mindedly at religion, which, like any other ideology has its ups and downs. A lot of clerics in Iran are supporting people. In fact there are fewer clerics behind Ahmadi-nejhad than there are in the Green Wave.
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
I got them straight all right. Name one nation ruled by a religious book that has a true democracy. Where is that open-minded religion youre referring too? Buddhism? I dont think so. All those clerics you mentioned who are supporting the people. Why now, after 30 years of tyranny? I tell you why, its because they are afraid of their own asses. They really dont give a shit about the people. They know that their days are numbered and want to be on the safe side.
Dillebror 2 years ago
Read my post again. I didin't say "run a country using religion", I said "have an open mind about religion".
And secondly. it seems to me that you didn't get your facts straight. If you had, you would have, for example, known that many of these clerics are, and have been, against mixing religion and politics.
What do you know about history of Iran? Reading a few bits of news about Iran doesn't make one an expert. Until recently even news agencies weren't very clear on politics in Iran.
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
Very interesting interview. Speaker has keen insight into what is presently happening in Iran.
g1e2c3k4o 2 years ago
Moshen seems like a pleasant man.
Persians are an old and proud people.
Yet Persians can't seem to extricate their brainwashed minds from the islamic insanity of arab invaders. What a shame for these Persian mental slaves.
And because the Persians are islamic mental slaves, Iranians foolishly inject themselves into the issues among the Semites of the Arabian Peninsula.
Persians should see the Turks as a nation worth emulating
Turks are islamic but wise enough to be secular instead of insane.
nirbija 2 years ago
well said nirbija.
classicberny 2 years ago
well understood. lol
nirbija 2 years ago
We already had a nation like Turkey in the 50's. But the CIA enforced a corrupt dictatorship. And Iranians are not like islamic mental slaves anymore. That why they march in the millions to bring down the Islamic Republic.
k11984 2 years ago 2
Good points.
Liberating oneself from mental slavery can be a challenge.
So if at first Persians did not succeed the first time around, now is the time to try again. The Americans are not as stupid and narrow-minded as they were when they did 'regime change' in the 50's.
Today some Americans are recognizing that islamic insanity is a huge enemy of everyone, including enemy of the unfortunate brainwashed muslims all over the place.
nirbija 2 years ago
I beg your pardon, but Turks are increasingly falling back into islamic ideology and becoming less and less secular. Big parts of Turkey don't subscribe to the secular ideas of Kamal Ataturk, and had it not been for the Army, we would have been witnessing a Turkish version of the Islamic Republic today.
roni6124 2 years ago 11
Well at least the Turkish army are keeping the islamic insanity at bay.
One area of Persian society can do the same as the Turks; because at the moment, the Turkish-ness has a greater victory over the arab's islamic insanity than Persian pride has.
nirbija 2 years ago
So you think an army should have the power to force a government on people, just because it's in keeping with your ideas? Very hypocritical!
You don't seem to know much about Iran's history or the culture. If you did you wouldn't repeatedly call them "Persian".
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
If the army is not rooting out the islamic insanity of foreign/arab invaders, then the army would not be worthy of its name.
The role of the army is to maintain law, order and the integrity of the society.
Insane islam is FOREIGN to Turks and also to Persians. Persians should emulate the Turks in this regard; otherwise islamic insanity will cause Iranians to swallow some bombs soon
I use the word 'Persian' because that name is the more enduring legacy of the indigenous people of that area
nirbija 2 years ago
1. By calling all Iranians "Persian", you're offending groups of minority in Iran. And this legacy you're talking about was 2500 years ago. Iranians have done many things since then that they are proud of. The 1979 revolution is in fact one of them.
2. After the revolution Iran was supposed to implement a regime based on modernized Islam...
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
...(if you want to know what that means, read some of Dr Shariaati's books. People turned muslim after reading his books. As an Atheist even I find his books enlightening, though they will never make me believe in God :) ) But a group of ultra-conservatives who disagreed with modernising religion, didn't believe in democracy and fundamentally disagreed with Khomeini, managed to get some power and started killing off many Iranian intellectuals...
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
And because of the mess the country was in with the Iraq war and all the sanctions, a lot of the original founders of the republic did not realise what was happening until it was too late. This ultra-conservative group is the one who has taken power now and Ahmadinejhad is one of them (It's argued that Khameneie isn't one of them, and is just afraid of losing power)...
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
These original founders started realising the flaw in their original plans for a regime based on religion (modernised or not) and had a change of heart (this is what Sazegara is talking about in this video). They are the ones who started the reformist movement in 1997 when Khatami was elected for presidency.
BurgundyBag 2 years ago
@roni6124 yeah true now turkey is being more islamic & ataturk's ideas are in trash of history while he's roting in hell, soon turkish women will have the freedom to get education without having to take off their headscarfs in schools and they can freely cretisis israel's crimes without being accused of antisemmitism which is great, gov serving its people instead of some foreign agenda, not running to join the EU the Turkish economy is the 18th in the world like 20 times bigger then greeks
toohnooch 1 year ago