cool i always rhought every individual string had to be adjusted to have perfect intonation. but u only have to adjust the fat string. sweet! thats why my guitar sounds like crap those idiots at the guitar store did every string. im gonna tell them they are idiots the next time i go there. if they ask me ill just say i found it on youtube. how can they argue with that.
Hey people, I've adjusted my string length to the max, but the 12th fret is still sharp. Any ideas on how to fix it? or is it just a problem with Ashton guitars? :) Thank-you in advance
@ADAMROCKS5 One thing though, if you happen to be giving your guitar a full service (like what I am doing) the intonation setting is best left until the bridge height has been sorted :)
That's fine. But he has a dinky little gadget that he plugs the guitar into to check the MHZ - so he can get the exact pitch of the note. Can it be done by ear? I don't have perfect pitch - and if the tuning is only a little bit out it can be hard to tell
@dravidwake Dude thats a 24 dollar Korg tuner .... available at probably any music shop on the planet , shit i've even seen them at best buy and walmart .
can bad intonation have anything to do with getting fret buzz? I believe mines out but i got this fucken bad as fret buzz on my high E, fucken annoying, I was going to try this but I don't have a digital guitar tuner, is this possible without one? Maybe by ear?
Thank You for this video Tim. I have a Jackson DXMG Dinky with a floyde rose locking system and i have been able to fix my intonation in under 30 minutes.
anybody know what the problem is when notes are still out of tune even after the screws are adjusted to max capacity? Would appreciate an answer. Thanks!
@bensonguitar If your saddle is pushed all the way to the end and it's still not right, you might have a warped neck. try searching for a vid on adjusting your truss rod.
When you restring just check the intonation again to double check. Though make sure to bend the strings in and play them for a while so that they stay in tune before checking.
Restring and stretch. Tune yur guitar... then tune it again until it's stays in the best tune it can... then tune it again... then adjust yur harmonic... then tune yur guitar again... proceed to the next string... test yur E string again... continue on but always compare the previous string tuning... after a half hour playing with chromatic tuners and hexigonal wrenches you should have the best tuned guitar that it can be... and if it's in a good guitar it will stay that way for years!
@TheSpartanPhalanx that bridge is similar to a floyd rose, adjust the saddles to get appropiate intonation and also adjust the tension on the springs to get proper action which also gives better intonation. If there's any buzz from the string then consider raising the action so that the string is above the fret to thickness of a dime to a nickel. also consider if the neck is bowed. The neck should have a slight bow
if you dont mind me bugging you about a couple more things, what if im missing a spring and how do i adjust the saddle? ive tried everything but i cant seem to be able to.
@TheSpartanPhalanx you can always buy a set of new springs, but you can adjust the tension to work with 2 springs but the tension would feel to lose. some people like it like that though. to adjust the saddles, use an allen key to loosen the screws between the saddles then follow the video
I'm wondering how these people get jobs and I can't when I know way more and understand the physics of a guitar better than this douche, only other reason is cuz I'm mexican
@wisesatyr72 In some cases, the bridge may be so out of whack that the adjustment screw is not long enough to hit a perfect intonation. If the guitar is worth it, take it to a pro for repare. If not, buy a nicer guitar.
@wisesatyr72 In some cases, the bridge may be so out of whack that the adjustment screw is not long enough to hit a perfect intonation. If the guitar is worth it, take it to a pro for repair. If not, buy a nicer guitar.
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So my guitar wont intone, it doesnt matter where I move the saddles on my strat too, the note stays the same on the 12th fret, I've done it before on other guitar so I know I'm doing it right, anyone got any idea's to help?
@MrLordshanks If you can physically see the saddle move when you turn the screw, then you have bad ears or a bad tuner if you think it's not changing pitch. But it could be that the screw is stripped, or otherwise is not doing anything. If turning the screw is not moving the saddle, this may require a repair rather than just an adjustment.
Something that is often overlooked on necks that are screwed on.....like a strat....is the neck screws can become loose, even right from the factory new, before you set up any electric guitar check to see if its a screw in neck and tighten the screws nice and snug
@jesuspunk33 If you need to adjust the bridge saddle "back" more and have run out of room you can always remove the spring. That will give you a tad more room to adjust back. Also......if your strings are old or have been played on alot.......change them first......worn or old strings can mess up your tuning and intonation
the biggest problem i had when first trying this was turning the screws way too much. if your using an electronic tuner try strumming open E and turning screw....you will see that even a small adjustment will change tuning. once i figured out how little i had to turn it this was alot easier.
This is not possible... been doing this over 2 hours and couldn't get it done :( I can't do it... no matter how much and which way I turn the screws the 12tf Fret is always sharp... it is always sharp on my low E. What am I doing wrong? Please help me :/ I could not even tell which way to turn the screw really. Got an Epi SG400. Thank you very much!!!! :(
@GattsTaichou if the twelfth fret harmonic is in tune to E on your low E string, and the fretted (not fretted hard but just enough to keep it from buzzing) note is sharp, you need to make the string longer, by turning the screw counter-clockwise. remember to detune a little before adjusting as to remove some of the stress on the saddle itself. be sure that you havent already "unscrewed" the screw from the saddle or that it is stripped.
If you look at the individual bridge saddle you will see that it is a wedge shape - offset. To get more backward movement (which you need) you may be able to take the saddle out, remove the screw and insert it from the other side so the saddle now covers the rear half of the bridge space. That should get you there. If the saddle is already at the back, the guitar is faulty.
I currently switch between a Drop c tuning a drop Bb tuning and the standard 7 string tuning on a 7 string Ibanez how often do i need to reset the intonation on my guitar? and how much stress does that put on my guitar?
On my guitar, the string is intonated perfectly on my G string on the first 12 frets, but once you go past the 12th fret, it is sharp. Is there any way to fix this?
i would get a professional setup done. (also i cant stress enough the professional part of that, anyone can do a setup, but you would want to get it done professionally) go see a guitar tech and whatever you do, DO NOT go to guitar center.
intonation is set up the same way on any kind of bridge.. just a guitar thats not body thru that has just a typical bridge or trem, has screws for each string that raise or lower the saddles..
make sure your the neck is not warped and is straight, which you can adjust with the Truss Rod.. and make sure the saddles are the right height off the bridge, dont wanna have them sitting too high or too low.. if the strings buzz against the frets near the nut theyre definitely too low, if theyre hard to fret and sit high off the fretboard theyre too high.. if the saddle and bridge are all one piece, raise/lower the whole bridge as needed and then move the saddles afterwards..
depends... if you use low tunigs, it can be that you need longer saddles or a different bridge (see caparison HGS series, nicely explained on the caparison homepage)
i baught a cheap baby ML dean and put a screamin demon george lynch pick-up in it and damn it screams like hell i like taking odd guitars and doing strange stuff to them
@aceofspades78 if you play jazz or blues yea...??? but you would only put emg's on your guitar if you're playing hardcore or metal. unless you're retarded.
i had that problem when i first switched to a higher guage string, try setting all the saddles far forward as you can, retune the guitar with the saddles in this possition, then try setting up the intonation again, should give you tons of room. thats the only thing i can think of.
I need help i have a epiphone les paul standard and when I rotate the screws jack shit happens, could the bridge height or something else have somethign to do with this
I'd make sure your neck isn't buckling or bowing. That's the only reason I can think of right now on why the screws aren't working. I'll try to think of more...
ok i dun get this i did what was showed in the video and didnt work ... my situation is my high e is in tune but as i go up past say the 7th fret it starts to get flat and by the 24th fret is almost a half step flat n e 1 have an idea????
as a beginner, how can i tell that the fret buzz i get is because of the truss rod, and as a beginner how do i tell that there is simething wrong with the truss rode shape.
i did exactly what the video shows and noticed my 1st 2nd and 3rd string were still Flat but i cant loer the saddle any further...using a floating bring on a strat tremolo systm
HELP!!! i have an Ibanez RG series guitar. and it does NOT wanna keep staying in tune. i solved the problem a couple months ago, but now i put new strings in it, and now the ACTION Got higher!!! can SOMEONE HELP ME!!! its pissing me off
naw fuck what all those guys said i have one too and all it is, is the bridge tention take off the back and looking towards the neck there should be 2 star head screws all u gotta do is ballence it out if the bridge keeps going up then the tention is too high and u gotta lower it
pretty much...its having a note....sounding the same no matter what string.....or place on the fretboard you play it...it should be the same note...just different pitch....
guys have any idea what i need to do? my guitar gets out of tune after i go to tune the other strings!!! when i tune all of them and immediately come back to the first string i see that its way out of tune!!! plz help me if there is a way!!! i have an old japaneas electric guitar.
Are you using a Floyd Rose? If so you will need shit loads of patience until you get it correct.. If its a very old guitar Your Tuners may slip or you may have Strung it incorrectly, Check the Strings arn't Slipping at the Posts. Once all the strings are on stretch them in. a couple of quick fixes for ya without too much trouble. hope this helps
If you have a floating tremelo (vibrato) you will find that when you tune one string, the low 'E' then you tune the A string, because its floating, depending on the strings tention one of them will go out of tune. If your A string is tighter than the E string, tune your E string and your A string should be flat. To resolve this you want to get your strings in tune to ear as close as you can and then keep tuning to pitch on a tuner =) i hope i helped.
Intonenattion should only be done after you set the action on the guitar. If the action is high off the fret board that will stretch the strings further when you pLay causing the string to be sharp when played . at the 12th fret requiring you to move the saddle back away from the fretboard Which will lengthen the string. If string is flat move saddle closer to fretboard will shorten string.
the 12th harmonic should sound the same as the low and high E. or rather, the low and high E should sound the same as the 12th harmonic, since the harmonic should be the reference and not the other way around.
oh if it helps anyone, the intonation would commonly be set with just over 2 mm more at the low E string in length that on the high E string(the saddles are 2 mm further back), im guessing this is something to do with shift in frequency? but if you look at the guitar and the bridge saddles arent all in line, thats why so dont change it to all be equal
When you tune your guitar with a tuner and for example you play bar chord at the tenth fret that does not sound quite in tune. It means you have bad intonation and your string length(s) need to adjusted to fix the problem.
the intonation is basically reliant on the scale length of the guitar, each note you play would be a munite amount out of key if you dont set it, because of the length of the string, so if the harmonic equals the fretted note halfway along the scale, then the whole of the fretboard is harmonically correct, makes a bit of a difference if youre guitars been suffering from lack of upkeep, most are set up quite nicely anyway
if youre in drop C youre likely to be playing metal? in which case itd be distorded to shit and hardly matter anyway, i imagine a in a simmilar way though, sinse the 12 fret harmonic would still be simmilar to the fretted note, also you could always tune it to a standard tuning, then retune it back down?
Hey guys can someone answer this question I got. I bought a new guitar a few months ago and the G string can't be tuned in I tried with an electric tuner with they normal tuning method but no avail. could doing what he does here fix it? It sounds too low
tighten the g string till it sounds just close enough, a lot of times when the string is too low, well if it is this low, it might be too low for the machine to actually pick up the note very well
what kind of guitar did you bought? is it fixed bridge or like floyd rose or something. With a fixed bridge it would be very strange you cant get it tuned :P
This is a good vid for intonation but my high e string is in tune at both the open and 12th fret but on the 15th fret, its almost a half step flat at Gb...........how do i fix this type of problem? Its also bad at 17th fret with the A note being a half step flat aswell.
what about the flat head screw part that is holding the "intonation" how do you adjust that? how close are your strings suppose to be to the fret board?
Using the harmonics of the 19th fret will give you better results faster.
The 19th fret will have the same 'pinch harmonic' as your 7th fret, that is 1/3 of the string length. So on your low E string it is B. On A it's E etc.
I can adjust the intonation of a whole guitar quite fast this way in 2-5 minutes..
the higher the fret, he bigger the difference between the harmonic and the fretted note, so u gain precission, but be careful not to bend the string too much (at all), i mean keep your push perpendicular to the fretboard.. however, i have problems on my cheap guitar to get very good results on 19th fret, i'm usually satisfied with a good match for 12'th.
They are higher up in the register and will fluctuate more clearly. Also you can both pinch and push down on the 19th fret and thus need no tuner, you just hear the result.
if the note fretted at the 12th is sharp move the string guide backwards. just go through all the strings in turn then go through them again making any further adjustments as necessary.
to give you an idea i just set up my charvel model 4 on which all the string guides had been removed due to a rebuild of the OFR and therefore all the intonation settings had been lost in alittle over an hour using this method and it's just about perfect.
as in the above video start by tuning all open strings, you can test the harmonic but really it tells you nothing. The software automatically detects the string being played, now just pay the string at the 12th fret and watch both the sliding bar and the digital frequency, if the sliding bar is left the note is flat and to the right it's sharp. if the not is flat adjust the string guide on the bridge forward, to remember this (and this is gonna sound daft) both Flat and Forward begin with a F...
the easiest way i have found to set intonation is by using your pc and a software tuner which you can download for free!
i don't know about you guys my ears aren't good enough to tune intonation by ear and i don't have a good enough chromatic tuner, i have one of those things with a red and green light and whilst it's great for on the fly tuning of normal open strings it isn't any use for intonation as it either doesn't recognise the frequency or just isn't accurate enough.
i just set up my jay turser and my fendor strat you do the same for each string works really slick, an doyu do hold the string down for each on the 12th fret , after a full tune up i waled on the strings and some nice string bending and she is still in tune after all that playing its staying good so iam happy .. no more tech bills gota love it
yh ive got a problem like that on my e string the 12th fret plays d# and e is on the 13th fret and i try adjust the saddle but the screw becomes worringly loose
Ive had intonation problems for ages ever since i changed gauge. Ive got it in tune at the open fret and the 12th fret but it gets screwed up after that. If i play a G note (3rd fret e string) its in tune, but then i move to the 15th fret and its about 1/2 step flat. How do i solve this problem?
To add to this also, measure at the 12th fret at both E-strings. The proper measurement should be 1/16 of an inch at both E- strings (6th and 4th string.)
So........You check the Intonation,by using a 3 step procedure.......Open string,Holding the 12th Fret.....& also a Harmonic at the 24th fret. Ive tried that before,& cant get all 3 to be exact dead on. but I can get OPEN & also the 12th fret dead on...........Just Not using all 3 steps.
I was told by a person who works guitars....To HOLD at the 12th fret,as opposed to Hitting a Harmonic there.....They said the reason you HOLD at the 12th is because...Thats what you do when you play, You press the string down. Yes in some cases you use harmonics during playing,but in general you hold the string down,made sense to me......So,again..I ask....WHich is the Correct Method, & Why. Why a Harmonic at the 12 rather than pressing down on the 12th.
hey this really helped me understand how to do this. I have a shecter and i used to play with 10's. Then i played with 9's and i liked how i could effortlessly get really exagerated vibrato. But now past the 9th fret on my E string it gets really out of tune. so ya im guessing thats intonation. Im beggining to understand basic stuff on the guitar from tinkering with my squire. But ya do you thing i should attempt to adjust it on my own? or take it into Guitar center
Thanks this helped a lot! what about if your using a floyd rose bridge set up?
AvengeTheHeartache 1 week ago
cool i always rhought every individual string had to be adjusted to have perfect intonation. but u only have to adjust the fat string. sweet! thats why my guitar sounds like crap those idiots at the guitar store did every string. im gonna tell them they are idiots the next time i go there. if they ask me ill just say i found it on youtube. how can they argue with that.
JulietsMan 2 weeks ago
I think it's the first video I've seen from expert village that is really usefull! lol
TheHellraiserc7 3 months ago 2
wow! I think it's the first video I've seen from expert village that is really usefull! lol
TheHellraiserc7 3 months ago
Hey people, I've adjusted my string length to the max, but the 12th fret is still sharp. Any ideas on how to fix it? or is it just a problem with Ashton guitars? :) Thank-you in advance
madgoldnz 3 months ago
what if you adjust the saddle all the way up and it's still flat?
cire420nyc 4 months ago
@cire420nyc do you know how to check your truss rod? it could need adjustment, but be careful. there are some videos about it
wholewurld 2 months ago
Wow, thanks! My guitar sound awesome now!
ADAMROCKS5 4 months ago
@ADAMROCKS5 One thing though, if you happen to be giving your guitar a full service (like what I am doing) the intonation setting is best left until the bridge height has been sorted :)
ADAMROCKS5 4 months ago
That's fine. But he has a dinky little gadget that he plugs the guitar into to check the MHZ - so he can get the exact pitch of the note. Can it be done by ear? I don't have perfect pitch - and if the tuning is only a little bit out it can be hard to tell
dravidwake 5 months ago
@dravidwake Dude thats a 24 dollar Korg tuner .... available at probably any music shop on the planet , shit i've even seen them at best buy and walmart .
naborsdriller395 4 months ago
@adamade12 Thanks ;)
zZorgZz 5 months ago
yes
seauji 5 months ago
when he says it is ''flat'' doe it men it is too low?
zZorgZz 5 months ago
@zZorgZz yes
skateabuga 5 months ago
@zZorgZz Yes - "flat"is too low. "sharp" is too high.
dravidwake 5 months ago
@dravidwake Awesome. :) Thanks!
zZorgZz 5 months ago
this guy is cool! thank god for real people who tell you straight.
tgm5150 5 months ago
this is the best expert village video ive ever seen!
DJ52Forty 6 months ago
AMen!!! aWESOME, I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT THE HECK THOSE SCREWS WERE FOR LOLL!!
raidenshian 6 months ago
can bad intonation have anything to do with getting fret buzz? I believe mines out but i got this fucken bad as fret buzz on my high E, fucken annoying, I was going to try this but I don't have a digital guitar tuner, is this possible without one? Maybe by ear?
halo3forlyfe 7 months ago
@halo3forlyfe The buzz would be your action and/or neck relief.
thisismy1strodeo 6 months ago
Thank You for this video Tim. I have a Jackson DXMG Dinky with a floyde rose locking system and i have been able to fix my intonation in under 30 minutes.
NailedDeadRisen87 7 months ago
anybody know what the problem is when notes are still out of tune even after the screws are adjusted to max capacity? Would appreciate an answer. Thanks!
dhenry1234 7 months ago
@dhenry1234 your fucked. take it to a luthier and get him to fix it
WhiteRook94 7 months ago
what about on a floyd rose
whatstillremains 7 months ago
my tuner said at my twelth im half a step out...moved the saddle as far as i can and it didnt do anything :(
bensonguitar 8 months ago
@bensonguitar If your saddle is pushed all the way to the end and it's still not right, you might have a warped neck. try searching for a vid on adjusting your truss rod.
CWelkV2N 7 months ago
Wow, an expertvillage video where somebody knows what they're talking about. Thanks, dude.
TallMikeBismuth 8 months ago
thanks!!! i will never have to blow fifty dollars at guitar center again
BOHOCO 8 months ago 8
can any one tell me if i need to do this every time i restring?
please reply!
thanks
hiyaberty69 10 months ago
@hiyaberty69 Shouldn't have too.
When you restring just check the intonation again to double check. Though make sure to bend the strings in and play them for a while so that they stay in tune before checking.
Averagegamer100 10 months ago
To check intonation on a guitar, u are suppose too check each string ... and then adjust the same way..IF NEEDED did he leave that out..
Rick31797 10 months ago
@Rick31797 well, it seemed obvious that you need to do it with every other string, right or youre american?!
malakispanien 10 months ago
Restring and stretch. Tune yur guitar... then tune it again until it's stays in the best tune it can... then tune it again... then adjust yur harmonic... then tune yur guitar again... proceed to the next string... test yur E string again... continue on but always compare the previous string tuning... after a half hour playing with chromatic tuners and hexigonal wrenches you should have the best tuned guitar that it can be... and if it's in a good guitar it will stay that way for years!
kewlmynd99 11 months ago
this might be the only good expert village video for guitars lol this is actually good!
Bobby36594 11 months ago
Anyone know how to set the intonation for a wilkinsons tremelo?
TheSpartanPhalanx 1 year ago
@TheSpartanPhalanx that bridge is similar to a floyd rose, adjust the saddles to get appropiate intonation and also adjust the tension on the springs to get proper action which also gives better intonation. If there's any buzz from the string then consider raising the action so that the string is above the fret to thickness of a dime to a nickel. also consider if the neck is bowed. The neck should have a slight bow
trueshinchan 1 year ago
@trueshinchan thanks man!
if you dont mind me bugging you about a couple more things, what if im missing a spring and how do i adjust the saddle? ive tried everything but i cant seem to be able to.
TheSpartanPhalanx 1 year ago
@TheSpartanPhalanx you can always buy a set of new springs, but you can adjust the tension to work with 2 springs but the tension would feel to lose. some people like it like that though. to adjust the saddles, use an allen key to loosen the screws between the saddles then follow the video
trueshinchan 1 year ago
@TheSpartanPhalanx check out this video instead. It's way more informative watch?v=QEyg_sEACdE
trueshinchan 1 year ago
I'm wondering how these people get jobs and I can't when I know way more and understand the physics of a guitar better than this douche, only other reason is cuz I'm mexican
trueshinchan 1 year ago
@trueshinchan Oh stfu with your race card.
jschwind435 1 year ago
@jschwind435 how many hispanics work at guitar center?
trueshinchan 1 year ago
@trueshinchan One at the Toledo Guitar Center. But Hispanics are minority so you'll see less working. If you posses the skill, they will hire you.
jschwind435 1 year ago
nice schecter
tajulafham94 1 year ago
First helpful expert village video I found very helpful. Thanks!!
JDawgg910 1 year ago
thanks so much for the post, great help!
jackpepper2000 1 year ago
SHITTTTTTTTTTT!!!! this was easyyyy man!!!! and ive been looking for this solution FOREVER... i just didnt know... THANKS EXPERT TIM!!!!!!
javier7high 1 year ago 13
what if your string is too sharp and no matter what direction you adjust it it wont budge ?
wisesatyr72 1 year ago
@wisesatyr72 In some cases, the bridge may be so out of whack that the adjustment screw is not long enough to hit a perfect intonation. If the guitar is worth it, take it to a pro for repare. If not, buy a nicer guitar.
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@wisesatyr72 In some cases, the bridge may be so out of whack that the adjustment screw is not long enough to hit a perfect intonation. If the guitar is worth it, take it to a pro for repair. If not, buy a nicer guitar.
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dampvoodoo10 1 year ago
So my guitar wont intone, it doesnt matter where I move the saddles on my strat too, the note stays the same on the 12th fret, I've done it before on other guitar so I know I'm doing it right, anyone got any idea's to help?
MrLordshanks 1 year ago
@MrLordshanks If you can physically see the saddle move when you turn the screw, then you have bad ears or a bad tuner if you think it's not changing pitch. But it could be that the screw is stripped, or otherwise is not doing anything. If turning the screw is not moving the saddle, this may require a repair rather than just an adjustment.
HumanJHawkins 1 year ago
i have that same tuner. i'm assuming you can you that one ?
1uzi98suicide5 1 year ago
Something that is often overlooked on necks that are screwed on.....like a strat....is the neck screws can become loose, even right from the factory new, before you set up any electric guitar check to see if its a screw in neck and tighten the screws nice and snug
inkey2 1 year ago
@jesuspunk33 If you need to adjust the bridge saddle "back" more and have run out of room you can always remove the spring. That will give you a tad more room to adjust back. Also......if your strings are old or have been played on alot.......change them first......worn or old strings can mess up your tuning and intonation
inkey2 1 year ago
how many procent difference between harmonic and 12fretted note is acceptiable?
also if u like to downtune a whole step from standard(but also play the standard as well), is it adviced to set the intonation for a halfste down?
w00per 1 year ago
Why not go to Guitar Center? please explain
qjtuber123 1 year ago
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2strong2cool 1 year ago
the biggest problem i had when first trying this was turning the screws way too much. if your using an electronic tuner try strumming open E and turning screw....you will see that even a small adjustment will change tuning. once i figured out how little i had to turn it this was alot easier.
bedfordvan01 2 years ago
i think the whole hings legit.
therooster224224 2 years ago
This is not possible... been doing this over 2 hours and couldn't get it done :( I can't do it... no matter how much and which way I turn the screws the 12tf Fret is always sharp... it is always sharp on my low E. What am I doing wrong? Please help me :/ I could not even tell which way to turn the screw really. Got an Epi SG400. Thank you very much!!!! :(
GattsTaichou 2 years ago
same issue here! anyone?
bigblubox 2 years ago
i think your strings are too old.get new ones and try againe
pusiii18 2 years ago
@GattsTaichou if the twelfth fret harmonic is in tune to E on your low E string, and the fretted (not fretted hard but just enough to keep it from buzzing) note is sharp, you need to make the string longer, by turning the screw counter-clockwise. remember to detune a little before adjusting as to remove some of the stress on the saddle itself. be sure that you havent already "unscrewed" the screw from the saddle or that it is stripped.
wasitthat 2 years ago
If you look at the individual bridge saddle you will see that it is a wedge shape - offset. To get more backward movement (which you need) you may be able to take the saddle out, remove the screw and insert it from the other side so the saddle now covers the rear half of the bridge space. That should get you there. If the saddle is already at the back, the guitar is faulty.
donepearce 1 year ago
@TheM3ta1Mi1itia il be your tech. in 1.6 years when i am done learning how to do it at musicians institute
IceSCREAMsuicide 2 years ago
how do you know when you need to move the saddle closer, or further away
IceSCREAMsuicide 2 years ago
hi there I own a fender american highway telecaster.. do you know how to intonate these guitars. I am having problems intonating.....
Z985 2 years ago
I currently switch between a Drop c tuning a drop Bb tuning and the standard 7 string tuning on a 7 string Ibanez how often do i need to reset the intonation on my guitar? and how much stress does that put on my guitar?
cothy86 2 years ago
on my guitar all my strings are pretty in tune, but my G string (haha...) always sounds sharp above the 5th fret. anyway i can fix this problem
moo735 2 years ago
On my guitar, the string is intonated perfectly on my G string on the first 12 frets, but once you go past the 12th fret, it is sharp. Is there any way to fix this?
Guitarzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 2 years ago
it means ur guitar needs to be either refretted or ur gage i to high take it to a gutiar center or a music store
jimmy63357 2 years ago
i would get a professional setup done. (also i cant stress enough the professional part of that, anyone can do a setup, but you would want to get it done professionally) go see a guitar tech and whatever you do, DO NOT go to guitar center.
zosointhewiind 2 years ago
Why NOT go to Guitar Center, please explain
qjtuber123 1 year ago
@zosointhewiind why not GC?
dlmahtani7 1 year ago
@Guitarzzzzzzzzzzzzzz actually.....when setting intonation the G is supposed to be set slightly sharp
inkey2 1 year ago
"wait what about my other five strings? did that just fix all of them?" lol.
bigscarybear 2 years ago
you would repeat this for all the strings
AL3XTH3LARG3 2 years ago
yea all the strings are the same
jandera21 2 years ago
and another thing is wat about all the other strings is it the same thing??
besta7xfan 2 years ago
but wat about a guitar without body through???
besta7xfan 2 years ago
intonation is set up the same way on any kind of bridge.. just a guitar thats not body thru that has just a typical bridge or trem, has screws for each string that raise or lower the saddles..
theendcredits 2 years ago
i have every other string set without a prob
but my g is always sharp on the 12th fret i moved the saddle back as far as it would go and it just got worse....any tips?
EpicSoundNY 2 years ago
make sure your the neck is not warped and is straight, which you can adjust with the Truss Rod.. and make sure the saddles are the right height off the bridge, dont wanna have them sitting too high or too low.. if the strings buzz against the frets near the nut theyre definitely too low, if theyre hard to fret and sit high off the fretboard theyre too high.. if the saddle and bridge are all one piece, raise/lower the whole bridge as needed and then move the saddles afterwards..
theendcredits 2 years ago
depends... if you use low tunigs, it can be that you need longer saddles or a different bridge (see caparison HGS series, nicely explained on the caparison homepage)
freaxxx 2 years ago
when i move the saddles rite up or rite down the intonation doesnt change one bit
guitarslf132 2 years ago
its not up or down its back n forth ;o)
typeonegfr 2 years ago
i baught a cheap baby ML dean and put a screamin demon george lynch pick-up in it and damn it screams like hell i like taking odd guitars and doing strange stuff to them
fireamracing 2 years ago
do u have to set the intonation in standard tuning? E
fireamracing 2 years ago
SCHECTER! :P good choice! I got an Tempest custum in black and EMG 60//81 :P
Andreas0705 2 years ago
i think he's using Seymour Duncan's...
zerito1213 2 years ago
yehh theyre semour duncans
xdarkxxsoilx 2 years ago
EMGs are a great way to get a shit sound
aceofspades78 2 years ago
not for me
supershaun215 2 years ago
@aceofspades78 if u play girly music
osvas23 1 year ago
@aceofspades78 if you play jazz or blues yea...??? but you would only put emg's on your guitar if you're playing hardcore or metal. unless you're retarded.
1metalhead238 1 year ago
@aceofspades78 shit sounds are the best sounds homie :D
4444johnnyboy4444 1 year ago
@aceofspades78
Yeah, Sure. If you're playing a lot of clean! If you're playing metal it sounds great!
modelking100 1 year ago
@modelking100 Even the clean tones are great!
000acr000 11 months ago
What happens when you're dealing with a sharp string, and you run out of room moving the saddle backwards?
ZoonosisG 2 years ago
dude i have the same problem
bulletfingrz 2 years ago
i had that problem when i first switched to a higher guage string, try setting all the saddles far forward as you can, retune the guitar with the saddles in this possition, then try setting up the intonation again, should give you tons of room. thats the only thing i can think of.
Hippyy123 2 years ago
you probably bought the wrong gauge for your guitar.
pj2bass12 2 years ago
I need help i have a epiphone les paul standard and when I rotate the screws jack shit happens, could the bridge height or something else have somethign to do with this
mike1jimmypage 2 years ago
I'd make sure your neck isn't buckling or bowing. That's the only reason I can think of right now on why the screws aren't working. I'll try to think of more...
MegaCalvinHobbes 2 years ago
acually sry wen i did this yea it helped but im at the lowest it can go and its still a tad flat its ALOT better now
anthonyguitar1591 2 years ago
ok i dun get this i did what was showed in the video and didnt work ... my situation is my high e is in tune but as i go up past say the 7th fret it starts to get flat and by the 24th fret is almost a half step flat n e 1 have an idea????
anthonyguitar1591 2 years ago
as a beginner, how can i tell that the fret buzz i get is because of the truss rod, and as a beginner how do i tell that there is simething wrong with the truss rode shape.
kaleluk31 2 years ago
i did exactly what the video shows and noticed my 1st 2nd and 3rd string were still Flat but i cant loer the saddle any further...using a floating bring on a strat tremolo systm
CommBreakDown 2 years ago
This guy knows what he's doing. He's better than that faggot with with the beatles haircut.
paperchasin23 2 years ago
HELP!!! i have an Ibanez RG series guitar. and it does NOT wanna keep staying in tune. i solved the problem a couple months ago, but now i put new strings in it, and now the ACTION Got higher!!! can SOMEONE HELP ME!!! its pissing me off
Rosalesforever 2 years ago
if the action got higher....
adjust....the high of the strings....they are sitting on bolts kind of like levers....look at you guitar and you will see what i am talking about....
then, adjust your guitar accordingly....
good luck....
cheers......
ughthisisgay123 2 years ago
if you have a ibanez rg5ex1 and if it keeps detuning then try adding some more springs to the whammy or stronger ones
protoballa 2 years ago
naw fuck what all those guys said i have one too and all it is, is the bridge tention take off the back and looking towards the neck there should be 2 star head screws all u gotta do is ballence it out if the bridge keeps going up then the tention is too high and u gotta lower it
anthonyguitar1591 2 years ago
whats intonation
?
im beginner i dont know nothing about my guitar
ceote5 2 years ago
pretty much...its having a note....sounding the same no matter what string.....or place on the fretboard you play it...it should be the same note...just different pitch....
ughthisisgay123 2 years ago
guys have any idea what i need to do? my guitar gets out of tune after i go to tune the other strings!!! when i tune all of them and immediately come back to the first string i see that its way out of tune!!! plz help me if there is a way!!! i have an old japaneas electric guitar.
bboys0lid 2 years ago
Are you using a Floyd Rose? If so you will need shit loads of patience until you get it correct.. If its a very old guitar Your Tuners may slip or you may have Strung it incorrectly, Check the Strings arn't Slipping at the Posts. Once all the strings are on stretch them in. a couple of quick fixes for ya without too much trouble. hope this helps
Guns2031 2 years ago
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K1RKYD 2 years ago
If you have a floating tremelo (vibrato) you will find that when you tune one string, the low 'E' then you tune the A string, because its floating, depending on the strings tention one of them will go out of tune. If your A string is tighter than the E string, tune your E string and your A string should be flat. To resolve this you want to get your strings in tune to ear as close as you can and then keep tuning to pitch on a tuner =) i hope i helped.
K1RKYD 2 years ago
tnx,ill try and see what happens,cheers.
bboys0lid 2 years ago
I don't have an auto tuner.... so how do i do this?
MikeTheGuy00 2 years ago
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koolala 2 years ago
Intonenattion should only be done after you set the action on the guitar. If the action is high off the fret board that will stretch the strings further when you pLay causing the string to be sharp when played . at the 12th fret requiring you to move the saddle back away from the fretboard Which will lengthen the string. If string is flat move saddle closer to fretboard will shorten string.
cybervisionstar 3 years ago
is the 12th harmonic suppsed to sound the same or different to the 12th note? cuz my low E sounds the same but my high E sounds different o.O
Eddyuukii 3 years ago
the 12th harmonic should sound the same as the low and high E. or rather, the low and high E should sound the same as the 12th harmonic, since the harmonic should be the reference and not the other way around.
azureguy 2 years ago
i dont quite understand what this intonation is for. Do you need to do it for floyd rose licensed tremolo systems?
xKamikaze13 3 years ago
u need to do it for all guitars...it makes the guitar sound better...procedings may vary depending on what type of bridge u have
sk8all247 3 years ago
Oh okay, but how do i move the things that hold the string at the tremolo system end of the guitar? I dont see any screws holding them in place.
xKamikaze13 3 years ago
Intonation just mess your guitar is playing the note it should be... without it you can't make a guitar sound right... more or less anyway.
ArkAngelHFB 2 years ago
yes it make the guitar sound right when playing cords
wwm8980 3 years ago
if your intonation is off, then yes. it doesnt what kind of tremolo system you have.
xxleben85 3 years ago
oh if it helps anyone, the intonation would commonly be set with just over 2 mm more at the low E string in length that on the high E string(the saddles are 2 mm further back), im guessing this is something to do with shift in frequency? but if you look at the guitar and the bridge saddles arent all in line, thats why so dont change it to all be equal
plymskima 3 years ago
When you tune your guitar with a tuner and for example you play bar chord at the tenth fret that does not sound quite in tune. It means you have bad intonation and your string length(s) need to adjusted to fix the problem.
t3h4b5 3 years ago
Why Exactly Do You Need To Set Intonation?
Tr3ntR3znor666 3 years ago
the intonation is basically reliant on the scale length of the guitar, each note you play would be a munite amount out of key if you dont set it, because of the length of the string, so if the harmonic equals the fretted note halfway along the scale, then the whole of the fretboard is harmonically correct, makes a bit of a difference if youre guitars been suffering from lack of upkeep, most are set up quite nicely anyway
plymskima 3 years ago
Oh, Kool Thanx
Tr3ntR3znor666 3 years ago
alright thanks, and its a fixed bridge.
motty900 3 years ago
how do i set Intonation when im in drop c tuning?
motty900 3 years ago
He motty900, use the same method when you use drop c tuning. Should be fine.
GuitarFreakBashing 3 years ago
tune it to standard first I guess
whatbedevoid 3 years ago
if youre in drop C youre likely to be playing metal? in which case itd be distorded to shit and hardly matter anyway, i imagine a in a simmilar way though, sinse the 12 fret harmonic would still be simmilar to the fretted note, also you could always tune it to a standard tuning, then retune it back down?
plymskima 3 years ago
I thought my E-string was 3/2 steps off because I was in drop C, this was very helpful.
charybdiscylla 3 years ago
Hey guys can someone answer this question I got. I bought a new guitar a few months ago and the G string can't be tuned in I tried with an electric tuner with they normal tuning method but no avail. could doing what he does here fix it? It sounds too low
ErnestoMag 3 years ago
tighten the g string till it sounds just close enough, a lot of times when the string is too low, well if it is this low, it might be too low for the machine to actually pick up the note very well
if that helps at all
and omg.... "and the G string can't be tuned"
freaking hilarious
holyfire001202 3 years ago
what kind of guitar did you bought? is it fixed bridge or like floyd rose or something. With a fixed bridge it would be very strange you cant get it tuned :P
Or the set up of your guitar is very poor.
GuitarFreakBashing 3 years ago
This is a good vid for intonation but my high e string is in tune at both the open and 12th fret but on the 15th fret, its almost a half step flat at Gb...........how do i fix this type of problem? Its also bad at 17th fret with the A note being a half step flat aswell.
Gbell3587 3 years ago
Kinda looks like the pre-06-2006 Jackson slsmg.
wesselbindt 3 years ago
Look at 1:35
it does not say Jackson on the Headstock, so its a Schecter I guess.
crosmanshooter 3 years ago 2
I already figured it wasn't a jackson, and I think it's one from Schecter's blackjack line.
wesselbindt 3 years ago
No wonder guitar tech's cost so fucking much. They take FOREVER to do anything!
lambo525 3 years ago
well its accually really usefull.. but from what i've from my guitar after having a crack at it is that its nakered
pemby07 3 years ago
what about the flat head screw part that is holding the "intonation" how do you adjust that? how close are your strings suppose to be to the fret board?
chachalylovesdanny 3 years ago
Using the harmonics of the 19th fret will give you better results faster.
The 19th fret will have the same 'pinch harmonic' as your 7th fret, that is 1/3 of the string length. So on your low E string it is B. On A it's E etc.
I can adjust the intonation of a whole guitar quite fast this way in 2-5 minutes..
jjuup 3 years ago 2
to me i sounds like you're doing the exact same thing just with some other harmonic tunes... i fail to see how thats easier/better...
micp4130 3 years ago
the higher the fret, he bigger the difference between the harmonic and the fretted note, so u gain precission, but be careful not to bend the string too much (at all), i mean keep your push perpendicular to the fretboard.. however, i have problems on my cheap guitar to get very good results on 19th fret, i'm usually satisfied with a good match for 12'th.
Dm3qXY 3 years ago
okay, i see... thx...
micp4130 3 years ago
They are higher up in the register and will fluctuate more clearly. Also you can both pinch and push down on the 19th fret and thus need no tuner, you just hear the result.
jjuup 3 years ago
So if i was too do the hamronic at 24th fret that would be even better?
Bomaman 3 years ago
If you have a guitar with 24 frets, yes. Most guitars and most bass guitars do not have that, that's why I suggested the 19th fret.
jjuup 3 years ago
That's a tapped or natural harmonic smartass
NLGPB 3 years ago
this is the first expertvillage vid that accually helped
powertothechord 3 years ago 2
if the note fretted at the 12th is sharp move the string guide backwards. just go through all the strings in turn then go through them again making any further adjustments as necessary.
to give you an idea i just set up my charvel model 4 on which all the string guides had been removed due to a rebuild of the OFR and therefore all the intonation settings had been lost in alittle over an hour using this method and it's just about perfect.
i hope this is useful to you
cheers!
Rich
Pynes1664 3 years ago
as in the above video start by tuning all open strings, you can test the harmonic but really it tells you nothing. The software automatically detects the string being played, now just pay the string at the 12th fret and watch both the sliding bar and the digital frequency, if the sliding bar is left the note is flat and to the right it's sharp. if the not is flat adjust the string guide on the bridge forward, to remember this (and this is gonna sound daft) both Flat and Forward begin with a F...
Pynes1664 3 years ago
Hi guys,
the easiest way i have found to set intonation is by using your pc and a software tuner which you can download for free!
i don't know about you guys my ears aren't good enough to tune intonation by ear and i don't have a good enough chromatic tuner, i have one of those things with a red and green light and whilst it's great for on the fly tuning of normal open strings it isn't any use for intonation as it either doesn't recognise the frequency or just isn't accurate enough.
cont.
Pynes1664 3 years ago
i just set up my jay turser and my fendor strat you do the same for each string works really slick, an doyu do hold the string down for each on the 12th fret , after a full tune up i waled on the strings and some nice string bending and she is still in tune after all that playing its staying good so iam happy .. no more tech bills gota love it
KevinMillard68 3 years ago
yh ive got a problem like that on my e string the 12th fret plays d# and e is on the 13th fret and i try adjust the saddle but the screw becomes worringly loose
ineedalatte 3 years ago
Ive had intonation problems for ages ever since i changed gauge. Ive got it in tune at the open fret and the 12th fret but it gets screwed up after that. If i play a G note (3rd fret e string) its in tune, but then i move to the 15th fret and its about 1/2 step flat. How do i solve this problem?
Gbell3587 3 years ago
To add to this also, measure at the 12th fret at both E-strings. The proper measurement should be 1/16 of an inch at both E- strings (6th and 4th string.)
viletantrum 3 years ago
So........You check the Intonation,by using a 3 step procedure.......Open string,Holding the 12th Fret.....& also a Harmonic at the 24th fret. Ive tried that before,& cant get all 3 to be exact dead on. but I can get OPEN & also the 12th fret dead on...........Just Not using all 3 steps.
97warlock 3 years ago
I was told by a person who works guitars....To HOLD at the 12th fret,as opposed to Hitting a Harmonic there.....They said the reason you HOLD at the 12th is because...Thats what you do when you play, You press the string down. Yes in some cases you use harmonics during playing,but in general you hold the string down,made sense to me......So,again..I ask....WHich is the Correct Method, & Why. Why a Harmonic at the 12 rather than pressing down on the 12th.
97warlock 3 years ago
You've misunderstood, You play the 12th fret harmonic, the you hold the 12th fret to see if it matches the open harmonic string.
mojorisen74 3 years ago
nice! helped me to use .009 gauge from .010
hatooku 3 years ago
hey this really helped me understand how to do this. I have a shecter and i used to play with 10's. Then i played with 9's and i liked how i could effortlessly get really exagerated vibrato. But now past the 9th fret on my E string it gets really out of tune. so ya im guessing thats intonation. Im beggining to understand basic stuff on the guitar from tinkering with my squire. But ya do you thing i should attempt to adjust it on my own? or take it into Guitar center
PHS4ever 3 years ago
try to save money unless it's a expensive guitar
hatooku 3 years ago
damn... 1242345398476 videos on how to check intonation on fixed bridges and none with a floyd rose bridge... SAD!!!! :(
Viperion444 3 years ago