Pentagon Plane Debris

[390bullitt1968]

There were no passengers found. You must just take it on faith , since the feds claim every passenger's remains were found.

[killuminati1871]

explane how it went thru 4 walls ? only a cruse or tomahawk could have done that...we all know it was an inside job just ask lloyd englind

[Merlin5by5]

@killuminati1871

The Boeing 757 actually went thru 13 Rebar Concrete walls, a retainer wall, and the

THREE feet of Indiana Limestone, Brick Infill, and ANOTHER concrete wall to hold

it up. No cruise missile or tomahawk could penetrate that. They are rated for a

maximum of 8 inch concrete wall. Try again.

[MsgtSpook]

@SonsOfAzazel "look at the photos of the damage, which show over a hundred feet of steel-reinforced concrete columns and stone walls torn out of the first floor. The freak-ass conspiracy sites won't show you the photos of the first floor,  since it shows them to be liars:

One example, showing the damage done by the aircraft's wings. Unless the conspiracy pimps think there was some missile hitting there, with a hundred-foot wingspan....

[SonsOfAzazel]

The average Truther has the IQ of a garden slug. They actually believe someone would engineer some crack-brained plot to drive planes into buildings that were already rigged for demo, because just blowing up the WTC wouldn't piss anyone off enough.

How much crack do you have to smoke to make sense out of that?

[SonsOfAzazel]

"None of these clowns have ever seen a missile"

The Truther pussies are basically ignorant civilians, whose knowledge of military matters is close to ZERO, which is why they always sound so stupid when discussing their magical "missiles."

Missiles hit a building, penetrate, and blow shit OUTWARDS. Look at any photos online.

At the Pentagon, the pillars & stone walls are not exploded outward, but obviously knocked INWARD.

Simple -- but it seems to be a bit more than Truthies can grasp.

[trj23100]

you defend the gov't but if they needed to kill YOU they wouldnt think twice about it. you are part of the machinery that enables these evil people to invade countries that have done nothing to the u.s. well done. i bet your're religious too

[trj23100]

you fool

[safarieten]

It's all very good to ask where the wings are etc, but where is the engine debris ???? Many poeple say that it was a missile that hit the Pentagon, and that millitary aircraft hit the 2 towers. That's all very well, but if this is true, where are the passengers, and what happened to them??

[pudster420]

@safarieten pretty sure the sadistic side of your imagination can figure that one out! i could think of a few options off the top of my noodle!

[blueshark69]

@safarieten "Many poeple say that it was a missile that hit the Pentagon"

You'll notice that it's only civilian idiots who say that, definitely no one who has ever seen a missile strike.

Missiles hit, penetrate and blow everything OUTWARD. At the Pentagon, all the exterior columns on the first floor -- over 100 feet wide -- were obviously knocked INWARD, just like if something really big and fast hit it. Like a plane.

Missiles also don't leave behind tons of plane debris & dead passengers

[cloudomnislashes]

wth does this got to do with the pentagon crash? the plane is different, the wall is different! stop linking all the plane crashes with each other when there isn't any link except "plane" and "crash".

[korverone]

Its getting to the point where ppl who think this was 19 terrorist are akin to those who still think the world is flat and the ones Ive meet that do are often bullish and of the type to blindly follow authority

[korverone]

I assume this is supposed to be supporting evidence as to why there was so little debri. This is an assumption and maybe wrong if so I apologize. This data how ever has little to no value. As already been explained in a few other post, the pentagon walls were not of this type. As from the film the plane doesnt even penetrate. Where as in the pentagon several walls were penetrated. The plane would have been, logically, full of fuel also, does that atomize as well. .

[Underwood4321]

"still can't find an actual REASON for a bunch of hi-speed cameras ringing the Pentagon"

These ignorant civilian Truthers still don't understand that the Pentagon is an OFFICE building, not some hi-security area like a missile site. Only a few areas INSIDE the bldg are extremely secure.

Until that partking lot was put in, there were NO cameras outside the Pentagon except for one over each entrance, just to keep track of the obnoxious demonstrators that infest the place a few times a year.

[Underwood4321]

" Not leaving any debris or evidence that a jumbo jet was ever there"

How fucking blind do you Truther morons have to be to miss the tons of debris -- landing gear, wheels, engine parts, pieces of fuselage & flaps, etc ?

And of course you ignore the hundreds of people who clearly saw a jetliner and focus on one or two who think maybe they saw a missile ... or a small plane ...

Truthers believe whatever bullshit it takes to feed their paranoid delusions.

[pudster420]

@Underwood4321 so its been a year...you smrtn up yet? lol

[Blobadelics]

the pentagons not a concrete wall lol fucktard

[CHIPSTERO7]

The side of the Pentagon that was hit was made of Kevlar reinforced concrete.

[ReasonOfAbortion]

Agreed.

[simaojrcosta]

Actually, they build anti bomb walls after the incident. Before it was just regular walls, you can see it in the pictures all over the internet. They didn't even exist when the pentagon was built, do you know how old is that building?

[61Chrysler300]

"Now, dumbfuck -- give us your brilliant analysis why the security guards at the monitors need anything better than regular WalMart-quality cameras just to see someone sneaking across the lawn? If there WAS good film, you assholes would just yell Photoshop"

So far none of you ignorant civilian pussies can answer this one.

Give it a try, satinhooks -- make an even bigger ass of yourself.

[okichris]

The pilot was said to be one of the shittiest people to fly a plane. i wonder how he aimed a huge plane so precisely into his target..

[ReemYoranus]

"i wonder how he aimed a huge plane so precisely into his target"

So how do you know where he was aiming? Actually, the spot he hit was pretty shitty, not even a very significant part, which is why only low-level bureaucrats were killed.

Going by your theory is like aiming a bullet at a wall, and then afterward drawing a bulls-eye around where it hits, saying "Good shot!"

[satinhooks]

You mean a very large bullet nearly as tall as the wall. Not leaving any debris or evidence that a jumbo jet was ever there.

I was in an aviation high school. None of the maneuvers made by those pilots is physically possible. The speeds and turns and altitudes of the planes would have caused the structural integrity of the crafts to break up or malfunction.

Sorry. You are wrong. Please go to your local library and get some books so that your mind can be at rest about who the liars are.

[61Chrysler300]

What an ignorant twat you are -- not to mention full of shit. You were IN an aviation high school (obviously aren't even a pilot), but claim you know certain maneuvers are impossible -- though they've all been duplicated many times by REAL pilots in simulators. Not that you've ever looked any of this stuff up.

You haven't even followed the last dozen posts about the Pentagon cameras.

Try AerospaceWeb, dipshit. They'll also explain why all that debris at the Pentagon clearly is from a 757.

[realistromeo]

I still smell poop, a big steamy load...no definitive video even after all this time...HEART OF US INTELIGENCE has no definitive video of the event WHAT IDIOTS! complete shmucks at the pentagon security firem now!

[chris7777777777777]

you 9/11 deniers are incredible, you guys are so unreasonable its funny to hear you guys rant. I don't like the situation no more than you do. You guys aren't going to change anything so get over it. if it is true that there are powerful men running the country...Then what are YOU going to do about it you little twit(thats what they would say) lol. seriously, there is nothing we can do, so i just don't care about it anymore.

[realistromeo]

Lol i don't deny 9/11.. i deny the governments story.

You speak truth man, but at least they wouldn't be man enough to say it to my face...lol

But i agree, it would involve the compicity of the FBI, CIA,MILITARY,CORPARATIONS, and GOVERNMENT! way to deep to topple even by force.

Where is luke skywalker when you need him.

[chris7777777777777]

the government is like a HUGE web trap, anchored in millions of places. this is not a system like cut off the head and the rest will wither and dye, the only way is to nuke the head, but then the rest of the country will still have its little systems set up, and if that happen it will affect are very livly hood and just wouldn't be worth the struggle, the chain of command in government is set up for such events anyway, I am not saying I would ever do anything like this, i'll make a great movie.

[ResurrectedFish]

"HEART OF US INTELIGENCE has no definitive video of the event"

Possibly just because you're ignorant enough to think that the Pentagon is the "heart of US intelligence" -- you probably believe those missile battery fairy tales, also.

Now3, dumbfuck -- give us your brilliant analysis why the security guards at the monitors need anything better than regular WalMart-quality cameras just to see someone sneaking across the lawn?

If there WAS good film, you assholes would just yell Photoshop.

[ReemYoranus]

"HEART OF US INTELIGENCE has no definitive video of the event WHAT IDIOTS!"

OK, dipshit -- explain exactly what the point would be to have dozens of high-speed cameras all around the Pentagon, since no regular video cameras would capture something going as fast as a .45 bullet (550mph = 810feet per sec).

Would it prevent anything? Yeah, you'd get some really great shots of the rats in the dumpsters.... real National Geo-quality.

Cameras' only purpose was to alert guards to intruders on lawn.

[realistromeo]

Depends on the angle, if it was a rooftop camera you'd get a real long view of the planes entry..but this 5 frame shot captures a view of only 100 feet or less.

And the only rats are in the pentagon. but they should be in dumpsters.

[Moron6411]

"if it was a rooftop camera you'd get a real long view of the planes entry"

And if were pointed straight up, the guards could stare at clouds all day instead of the immediate threat area.

What, exactly, would be the point of a camera shooting straight out from the roof?? Nature shots of the seagulls? Real blurry pictures of the apartment buildings in Crystal City?

Anything not aimed at the immediate perimeter, like the lawn, isn't much use in letting the guards know someone is approaching.

[realistromeo]

So you could see things like the parking lot/entrance/ and the like...there would should have been better security and better film footage. After all it is the HEART of National Defense..billion dollar building...the highest defense/military ministers in all of America.

What if a HALF ton truck was pulling up aththe gates? would you wait to see if they produced proper docs? no ...youd block them or stop them pre emptivly.

[HughJorgaan]

"there would should have been better security and better film footage"

Why, exactly, should there be better film footage? Wouldn't make a bit of difference to the conspiracy freaks since they'd just claim it was fake anyhow. The purpose of the cameras is to alert the guards (and yes, you do have to pass barricades before you drive toward it).

And exactly what security was bad? And please don't make an fool of yourself by talking about magic missile batteries on the roof, right on a flightline.

[satinhooks]

If the government had ANY interest in putting all of the "Conspiracy Theorist" (i mean, REAL AMERICANS) to shame there would have been footage of an AIRPLANE going into the building.

Not some blur and an explosion. There was footage all around the area that would have captured a plane crash easily. They could've easily show ANYTHING.

And yes, since it's the heart of our national defense and there is ABSOLUTELY no plane footage, it's a fucking LIE. Get your head out of the sand. WAKE UP!!!

[TankMonster105]

"footage all around the area that would have captured a plane crash easily."

It's always fun watching some ignorant civilian pretending to actually know something.

Your diotic theory is, then, that the biggest conspiracy in history forgot to fake up a video for you?

Of course you have zero evidence there ever were any other "missing" videos.

And still can't find an actual REASON for a bunch of hi-speed cameras ringing the Pentagon.

There weren't any, as anyone who worked there knows.

[61Chrysler300]

"Not leaving any debris or evidence that a jumbo jet was ever there"

With all your vast aeronautical knowledge, you're telling us this compressor stage and landing gear assembly, and wheels, are NOT from a 757?

Exactly which kind of missile do you think they belong to?

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[eddiedizle]

this plane didnt take off.. it road into the wall not leaving the ground. the terroist that hit the pentagon must of been a damn good pilot to drive the plane parallel to the ground like that. also this planes wings went into the wall and caused damage.. aparently the plane that hit the pentagon wings didnt cause any damage

[dfwtexxaas]

Wings were swept back due to their backward angles.

[FarmGirlJB]

"the plane that hit the pentagon wings didnt cause any damage"

Wrong. The wings smashed the crap out of the stone & concrete outer walls -- and just about the exact shape & size of that plane. Quite a coincidence, don't you think?

The Truther websites only show misleading photos. To see the whole damage, just before the collapse, see:

tinyurl DOT com/3yu2hz

Totally punctured walls are in red, busted limestone is in green. Look at the measurements.

[LietuvaLietuviams1]

you didnt answer the qestion

[dfwtexxaas]

If there is a weak spot within the building, such as a window area, all of the energy wil focus directly on that spot and all of the engergy from the plane will transfer to that spot...next question!

[LietuvaLietuviams1]

if the plane atomizes upon impact instantly. How can it break the walls open?

[dfwtexxaas]

If there is a weak spot within the building, such as a window area, all of the energy wil focus directly on that spot and all of the engergy from the plane will transfer to that spot...next question!

[meronmotors]

@dfwtexxaas HAHA thank you we need more people like you. These conspiracy theories usually come from 23 year old kids on there moms computer. They were usually the furthest away from where it happend and usually have very little education, but I dont know how....they always know the most.

[meronmotors]

@dfwtexxaas Freedom of speech is abused somtimes

[johnhall77]

@LietuvaLietuviams1 Tell me? Is there such a thing as liquid metal? Or do we just pick up sheet of metal out of the ground and make stuff with it?

[prebenso]

Ofcourse the plane could disintegrate into thin air in a ball of fire, leave a five meter circular hole just waiting for the roof to collapse leaving PCs and furniture completly intakt, maybee in DIe HARD 5

[realistromeo]

this plane hit "DEAD ON". the comercial plane that "purportedly" hit the pentagon DID NOT hit it squarely yet ripped through reinforced walls meant to withstand bomb blasts and missle strikes.?? i smell fish.

[FarmGirlJB]

"walls meant to withstand bomb blasts and missle strikes"

More B.S. cut-and-pasted from some wacko conspiracy website. Probably PrisonPlanet.

None of these clowns have ever seen a missile and don't have a clue what it would take to "withstand" a hit from even the smallest cruise missile, let alone a 757 at full speed.

[dfwtexxaas]

Look at how small the wall was on this test. Sure an airliner is bigger but look how much bigger the Pentagon is compared to this little wall. By the way, the WTC towers 1 and 2 were not designed to withstand a commercial airliner traveling at 500mph. I don't know where you heard that from...probably some conspiracy site.

[toursupport]

Why are you so eager to accept the government lie? The Pentagon had windows, the jet was ten times bigger, went through multiple walls and after "bouncing off the lawn" before hitting the building, left virtually no skidmarks. I don't know what happened, but I know what didn't happen.

[dfwtexxaas]

Listen, I've seen missiles fly through the air and trust me, there would've been thousands of witnesses that would've seen a missile. Instead, there were hundreds of witnesses to say they saw a PLANE flying low and into the Pentagon. The reason it went through some of the walls was because of the windows. "Jet was 10 times bigger" Well, the wall was 100 times bigger and thicker than this very small wall.

[djdiverse]

Uhhh? One of the architects who designed the towers said that. As well as a few structual engineers said that. Maybe you should research it a little more.

[thurmanthomas1990]

Wow!!! That shit turned into dust. The need to reinact a plane dive bombing into a field.

[samuellite2003]

Damn...I wouldn't have believe it if I didn't see this video. That's awesome!

[outoftowners2008]

Finally, somebody that shows some actual evidence.  Keep up the good job.

[kingstevesmith]

Hopefully, this will shut all those CTs up.

[prebenso]

Democracy goes away if people who disagree with you are just to shut up. The loss was great to us all. But the inconsistencies just wont go away.

[dfwtexxaas]

Who says the a plane can't just disenegrate when flying into a reinforced wall at 500mph? Now I hope all you conspiracy theorists will eat your words and shut your traps.

[SonsOfAzazel]

@dfwtexxaas "I hope all you conspiracy theorists will eat your words"

Not much chance of that. Truthie Cultists are mostly made up of two groups:

Many of them are just Moslem shills, covering up for their terrorist buddies by blaming it on anyone else they can think of -- usually the Jews.

The other major group of Truthies is the ignorant teenage dipshits who took Wood Shop instead of science classes, and they'll swallow whatever conspiracy sperm is sprayed at them, without question.

[MsgtSpook]

@SonsOfAzazel "The other major group of Truthies is the ignorant teenage dipshits who took Wood Shop instead of science classes, and they'll swallow whatever conspiracy sperm is sprayed at them"

That covers most of these stupid kids. They never had a decent basic education, and are just far too stupid, and too lazy, to check any of the bullshit they're fed by the professional conspiracy pimps like Jones & Fetzer.