Korsun-Shevchenkovsky Offensive 1944, Eastern Front, WW2

[maltavmalta]

If the germans had beaten the russians in the war, by taking Moscow, then the Americans would have introduced Berlin to their new toy - the Atomic bomb.

[MegaChingachguk]

Гитлер капут бля!!!

[JAG312]

Why the Italian subtitles?

[Olts100]

Actually some 58 000 German soldiers were trapped in the pocket. Of these some 40 000 escaped the pocket. Among trapped and later escaped soldiers were couple of thousand Russian auxiliaries. Moreover it's somewhat ironic that there were couple of hundred Russian prisoners of war who preferred stay and escape with Germans although they had a chance to go back to Red Army.

[Cinedocumentalist]

@Olts100 yes... so the feel-good (read: bullshit) story goes... if so many escaped, how come they left their dead general (supreme commander of the encircled forces -- Wilhelm Stemmermann) behind?

While some undoubtedly escaped (hundreds rather than thousands), there was no organized breakthrough, most were killed in action, some were taken prisoner.

Also most of those who escaped, were soon killed in massed artillery and air strikes.

Had they surrendered, most would've been home by 1955.

[Olts100]

@Cinedocumentalist Stemmermann was fighting in the rear and was killed by AT fire, but generals Lieb and Gille got out. As also Degrelle and many others.

No doubt the battle was Soviet victory, but it wasn't "second Stalingrad".

It's interesting to see those Soviet era films, but you have to remember that it's not always truth what you see there. 

[Cinedocumentalist]

@Olts100 Generals Lieb, Gille, Degrelle escaped... as they abandoned their troops and were airlifted to "safety". Stemmermann didn't, stayed with his troops & eventually shared their fate.

It's interesting to read, say, wikipedia and lift whole passages from there but it's not always the truth they write there.

While both sides overestimated enemy losses and underestimated their own, Soviet estimates were better grounded in reality -- it was them who had to exhume & rebury the bodies.

[smehist]

@Olts100 ya a lot of propoganda ! мой папа родился на 3 мес ранее там и получил аусвайс..но при отходе немцы зверствовали--особенно сс. бабуля проклинает фашистов.а вермахт говорит хороший.

[jackzero99]

@Cinedocumentalist Most would be home by 1955? Of the 107,000 German prisoners at Stalingrad, only 5,000 made it home in 1955

[Duhaime26]

@Cinedocumentalist like 20% made it back to Germany after the war lol

[aeromilitary]

Yes , your statements are correct abou the Russians...at that time any

Russian soldier or officer who would accept captivity was considered

a trador. However I doubt your German figures less then 28000 Krauts

managed to escape that terrible pocket, a lesson the dumn Germans

will never forget , a lesson given by the so called " peasant Army or better

said the Ivans " and their Abwehr miscalculated everything perfectly

fitting the German , Austrian and Swiss arrogance !

[radiantrey]

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[radiantrey]

Enjoyed to see how German's asses a kicked and Germans Killeds. Thanks a Lot. To kill 27 000 fucking Germans - Very Good.))))))))

[radiantrey]

Люблю смотреть, как убивают немцев - как бальзам на душу! Спасибо большее!

[phausser]

test

[sh13bk]

and here fascist saw butt)

it's nice see and after long time

[killercrabman]

one of the last battles on equal terms in the east..hitler should have stuck to politics..all on the backfoot from here for the germans..