I'd love an After Effects plugin that emulates the CVI. It would be great for adding a cool 80's retro look. Match it with a soundtrack made up of CMI samples, and you're sorted.
For some reason, there are virtually NO programs available for Windows or Mac that do this sort of real-time video processing. Why not? Loads of stuff to make visuals from music, loads of stuff to make video in non-real-time, but I can't find anything that takes video in via a digitizer and lets me PLAY with it!
I can't find any tools on modern computers that have one tenth of the flexibility of what I used to do with an Amiga or CVI. Why not?
@midwestconcertvideo - Computers today are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster and better than before. Just compare the video editing software used today, and the software used in 1979. It was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slower back then. Just becasue you can't find these programs doesn't mean they don't exist.
@danielodors I've been looking. Most of the things, like Resolume, are designed to play video loops, but are poorly suited for the processing live video in real time. Snaaaaaaaark does not help, suggestions for actual programs might.
@midwestconcertvideo - You don't seem to understand how this works. The video is never stored on the computer, it only passes through the hardware to overlay those simple effects in real-time. You can't do stuff like editing, or changing the speed of the video, because you are forced to operate at the speed of the video. The program you showed, of course it's lousy. It uses video from within the computer. I can't suggest any program, because you would need a perhipeal like the one for the CVI.
@danielodors Of course it would be possible to do this on a PC. I have plenty of PCs, both Windows and Mac, that store and manipulate video, even HD video, in real time. It is not a limitation of hardware, it is a limitation of imagination. I was doing stuff like this, though much worse quality, with Elan's Invision and a Live board on an Amiga 1000 back in the day, sampling video, playing loops, etc.
@midwestconcertvideo As far as I can tell, the reason we don't have software tools that can do this is because the people writing software these days haven't seen what we had 20 years ago. I want a programmer to look at this and make a software version of this that will work with a standard video input card.
Pioneers often invent things long before technology catches up with their vision. Search for "The Mother of All Demos" to see how far ahead of everything Doug Englebart was.
I saw you are a videograper. Want a suggestion? Buy the fastest processor you can get, get a workstation graphics card, and get paramount amount of ram, maybe 32 gigs. That should make real-time video editing possible for you computer. Something the CVI cold only dream of. It's simply physically impossible for any program to allow you to do what the video shows without the right hardware. Just like you can't play HD video on a pc without a graphics card. It's stuff you can't just download.
@danielodors I'm not sure you understand what I'm looking for. I have editing software, I use Edius and play 3 1080i streams at once on a cheap quad processer Q8300. The thing is, that is not what I'm talking about. I want to take an input from a camera LIVE and apply processing to that input LIVE. That is what the CVI did - it was an instrument that you could play.
Watch this tape. every single effect on this tape was done in real time. No capture to hard disk, no post-processing. Real time.
@midwestconcertvideo - I know what you are looking for, I was just trying to give you a cheaper alternative, but you want the real deal? Go get what's called a vision switcher. That's exactly what's in the video, just that one is really cheap. Production switchers are extremely expensive, and I know you won't buy one just to mess around with. Even the CVI used a vision switcher (it's the device with the slides). Doing this without a vision switcher is like wanting to video chat without a webcam.
@danielodors I have a Video Toaster (Amiga), a Tricaster (PC) and a Sony 2 M/E switcher with 3 TBCs. And this device still does stuff that those don't do. A switcher allows you to cross-fade and do split screens. The Toaster and Tricaster also added a limited array of DVE effects. But still none of the equipment I have at my disposal can do some of these effects. I could reproduce any of these effect with a computer in NON-real time, or do some small amount of them in real time. But not both.
@midwestconcertvideo - AAAAAAAAH. C'mon dude, do a little research and use a little common sense. Of course your devices don't do that. Those effects are more novelty than professional. Video mixers's target audience is both broadcasters (what would they want with that?) and Video Jockeys, therefore you have systems where a layman can just do silly effects at the press of a button, and you have systems that you actually have to do more than press a button to get great effects.
@midwestconcertvideo - {/watch?v=dF5RQnQhxk8&NR=1&feature=fvwp} The effects this video mixer does are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more advanced and professional than those from the CVI. Yes, video editing is in real-time, because all it has to do is play back the video from the sources. The above where I said " blah blah you can do ealtme video editing blah blah" was a typo. Anyhow, I just realized something. I will tell you on another comment.
@midwestconcertvideo - Here's what I realized. The CVI doesn't actually manipulate the video. It samples a single frame at a time and it manipulates just that frame, then overlaying it back on the video (sometimes with a static or translating alpha channel) when done manipulating that frame. If you noticed, the manipulated elements are not actually video, per say, and the reflections are really just duplicate displays of the same video. It could be possible to make a program that does this stuff
woooo 4000 colours
PutItAway101 2 months ago
whoa!
spacecricket 3 months ago
everyone was raised by their f'ed up 50s parents
ngDetecter 4 months ago
i hate the 80s...natural and acoustic sounds?...
ngDetecter 4 months ago
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ngDetecter 4 months ago
god I love horrible quality VHS
vjtk 4 months ago
this is how most early MTV videos were made, especially those by the Pet Shop Boys.
djcoreystuart 4 months ago
at 1:05 that's the effect they used for tha OK GO music video..
slackdave 6 months ago in playlist RARE
And Windows gives you all these features for free whenever it hangs.
ReedSolomon 6 months ago
I'd love an After Effects plugin that emulates the CVI. It would be great for adding a cool 80's retro look. Match it with a soundtrack made up of CMI samples, and you're sorted.
UncleFeedle 6 months ago
I'm still kinda amazed at how this device managed to do this^^
bassmajor 7 months ago
For some reason, there are virtually NO programs available for Windows or Mac that do this sort of real-time video processing. Why not? Loads of stuff to make visuals from music, loads of stuff to make video in non-real-time, but I can't find anything that takes video in via a digitizer and lets me PLAY with it!
I can't find any tools on modern computers that have one tenth of the flexibility of what I used to do with an Amiga or CVI. Why not?
midwestconcertvideo 11 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - Computers today are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster and better than before. Just compare the video editing software used today, and the software used in 1979. It was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slower back then. Just becasue you can't find these programs doesn't mean they don't exist.
danielodors 9 months ago
@danielodors I've been looking. Most of the things, like Resolume, are designed to play video loops, but are poorly suited for the processing live video in real time. Snaaaaaaaark does not help, suggestions for actual programs might.
midwestconcertvideo 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - You don't seem to understand how this works. The video is never stored on the computer, it only passes through the hardware to overlay those simple effects in real-time. You can't do stuff like editing, or changing the speed of the video, because you are forced to operate at the speed of the video. The program you showed, of course it's lousy. It uses video from within the computer. I can't suggest any program, because you would need a perhipeal like the one for the CVI.
danielodors 9 months ago
@danielodors Of course it would be possible to do this on a PC. I have plenty of PCs, both Windows and Mac, that store and manipulate video, even HD video, in real time. It is not a limitation of hardware, it is a limitation of imagination. I was doing stuff like this, though much worse quality, with Elan's Invision and a Live board on an Amiga 1000 back in the day, sampling video, playing loops, etc.
midwestconcertvideo 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo As far as I can tell, the reason we don't have software tools that can do this is because the people writing software these days haven't seen what we had 20 years ago. I want a programmer to look at this and make a software version of this that will work with a standard video input card.
Pioneers often invent things long before technology catches up with their vision. Search for "The Mother of All Demos" to see how far ahead of everything Doug Englebart was.
midwestconcertvideo 9 months ago
I saw you are a videograper. Want a suggestion? Buy the fastest processor you can get, get a workstation graphics card, and get paramount amount of ram, maybe 32 gigs. That should make real-time video editing possible for you computer. Something the CVI cold only dream of. It's simply physically impossible for any program to allow you to do what the video shows without the right hardware. Just like you can't play HD video on a pc without a graphics card. It's stuff you can't just download.
danielodors 9 months ago
@danielodors I'm not sure you understand what I'm looking for. I have editing software, I use Edius and play 3 1080i streams at once on a cheap quad processer Q8300. The thing is, that is not what I'm talking about. I want to take an input from a camera LIVE and apply processing to that input LIVE. That is what the CVI did - it was an instrument that you could play.
Watch this tape. every single effect on this tape was done in real time. No capture to hard disk, no post-processing. Real time.
midwestconcertvideo 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - I know what you are looking for, I was just trying to give you a cheaper alternative, but you want the real deal? Go get what's called a vision switcher. That's exactly what's in the video, just that one is really cheap. Production switchers are extremely expensive, and I know you won't buy one just to mess around with. Even the CVI used a vision switcher (it's the device with the slides). Doing this without a vision switcher is like wanting to video chat without a webcam.
danielodors 9 months ago
@danielodors I have a Video Toaster (Amiga), a Tricaster (PC) and a Sony 2 M/E switcher with 3 TBCs. And this device still does stuff that those don't do. A switcher allows you to cross-fade and do split screens. The Toaster and Tricaster also added a limited array of DVE effects. But still none of the equipment I have at my disposal can do some of these effects. I could reproduce any of these effect with a computer in NON-real time, or do some small amount of them in real time. But not both.
midwestconcertvideo 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - AAAAAAAAH. C'mon dude, do a little research and use a little common sense. Of course your devices don't do that. Those effects are more novelty than professional. Video mixers's target audience is both broadcasters (what would they want with that?) and Video Jockeys, therefore you have systems where a layman can just do silly effects at the press of a button, and you have systems that you actually have to do more than press a button to get great effects.
danielodors 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - I apologizes for my rudeness, but I hope that helped. I'm running on sheer caffeine right now.
danielodors 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - {/watch?v=dF5RQnQhxk8&NR=1&feature=fvwp} The effects this video mixer does are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more advanced and professional than those from the CVI. Yes, video editing is in real-time, because all it has to do is play back the video from the sources. The above where I said " blah blah you can do ealtme video editing blah blah" was a typo. Anyhow, I just realized something. I will tell you on another comment.
danielodors 9 months ago
@midwestconcertvideo - Here's what I realized. The CVI doesn't actually manipulate the video. It samples a single frame at a time and it manipulates just that frame, then overlaying it back on the video (sometimes with a static or translating alpha channel) when done manipulating that frame. If you noticed, the manipulated elements are not actually video, per say, and the reflections are really just duplicate displays of the same video. It could be possible to make a program that does this stuff
danielodors 9 months ago
Forget Adobe Premier, I want one of these!
1990chrism 1 year ago
I'm sold
ressla 1 year ago
Hey I just got out of a cave I was stuck in, this device could change the world!!!
Jordainio 1 year ago
Adobe After Effects?
VacTrooper 1 year ago
Yea baby !
This was more than cutting edge at that time.
Realmasterorder 1 year ago
@Realmasterorder And the silly part is, it is STILL cutting edge. Where are the real-time video manipulation programs of today?
midwestconcertvideo 11 months ago
@Realmasterorder And the silly part is, it is STILL cutting edge. Where are the real-time video manipulation programs of today?
midwestconcertvideo 11 months ago
We've just uploaded some Fairlight CVI resources (manuals, loops etc) - see fairlightcvi dotcom
vjzoo 1 year ago
Wow!its amazing.How much would one of these macines cost today?Remortgage your house right?he he
arpquadra 2 years ago
Wow the background music was done on a CMI??? There are some sounds also used by tangerine dream
Tittlekopf 2 years ago
does anyone know of a program equivalent BESIDES using MAX/MSP for this?
ecentole 2 years ago
i still use it, i can do good video effects with the CVI....
guimbadriver 2 years ago
I like the slow motion of the old video tapes, frame by frame, like 1:10
javier302 2 years ago
Amazing!
anndapanda 2 years ago 2
I like that, pity your tape is so badly chewed!
themanmaschine 2 years ago
Ultra cheesy, and therefore wonderful!
The "vertical mirrors" mode must be what Prince used at the end of "When Doves Cry."
justiceleague3000 3 years ago
".......mod dancer not included........."
JANXDPDX 3 years ago
you can now do this with a laptop , adobe aftereffects and cubebase , oh how things have changed
jmm1233 3 years ago
@jmm1233
not live!
bonspielTV 2 years ago
Gotta love that analogue distortion.
LampEight 3 years ago 7
where could i get one of these ?
a280281 3 years ago
Nice to see the CVI demo, I have ten various models of CVIs and we still use them all. Tough to get a tech to work on them these days.
StarInYourOwn 3 years ago 2
i've got one myself, hard to figure out though....but so old skool:)
vjpaljas 3 years ago
oh man I'm getting one!
buckvideo 3 years ago