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  • Berhentilah sembah syaitan itu, x ada faedah...tukarla duit 1rm kalau korang x sembah syaitan.... buktikan...baik ko tolong kami yg miskin ni dari sembah syaitan tu

  • i dont care what people say.i am still and always will be behind u mahathir!

  • Hey, mahathir ..I just don't believe this! YOU ARE DESCRIBING YOURSELF, YOU SAVAGE MAN!! You were making fun of my country !! Thanks to those people who uploaded for us around the world to see what a double-headed snake you obsiously are!!

    In MAHATHIR BOMBING SINGAPORE and MAHATHIR WANTS TO BOMB SINGAPORE vid clips..they said it all about what your devious mind contains! Where is your soul going to??

  • Let's see, he's showing signs and symptoms of psychosis , like having delusions and/or hallucinations, and very strange atypical behavior. These persons see, things that appear to be real but which are not being experienced at that time by others... , they try to find an explanation so people don't think they are crazy. and then they believe that voices are talking to them and someone has their home bugged ! By then,they tend to believe someone is plotting against them.

  • Lord Of Malaysia - Mahathir

  • Bapak sistem kehakiman tahi.

  • goodness gracious. not another lie!

  • does he???let me see his tongue ;]

    so u see..

    it's just a joke armeggeon

    we say it but never meant it.

    we all have been thinking to bomb singapore for awhile now

    but we can never will..

    cause we love them..do we???

  • Mahathir speaks with a forked tongue. Here he speaks about being a proponent of peace. While similarly in Youtube, he "jokes"about Malaysia being able to bomb Singapore with his Migs and F-18s. See for yourself.

    Pity, that some people speaks through the wrong end of their anatomy.

  • he is one foolish leader i ever since and yet malaysia are idolise him

  • Rust84 is just a stupid child when he is 14 years old in 1997.

    Stupid, bloodyhell, moron, you can even feed yourself or make income whwn you are 14 in 1997

    That was the year when Dr Mahathir saved Malaysia from pariah Fund Hedges that turned Asian countries to the doom. Only Malaysia saved. His measures like bailing out mega companies in 1997 were condemned by IMF and US and World Bank.

  • But now US provides US700billions for bailing out mega companies like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mc and follows Dr M prescription to save the nation people livelihood, employments and wages.

    Stupid Rust84 read past news and learn history

    Go read history stupid!!!moron!!bloodyful!jack­ass!!Boy!!

    Read first, learn before make comments!

  • War??? first dont fight india malay chinese then this country will be more more more power full country in the world...........

    last time i was so stupid...peace is life

    and if india malay chinese be good to each other malaysia will be strong rite?????????

  • yes, war is a brutality, uncivilized, and not a solution. it only create fear and pain. unless islam is at stake, then muslim will have to take war as a measure.

  • I respect Tun Dr Mahathir alot... I really look highly on him and He is the one who put Malaysia in the map. Wishing Him all the best in life. You are the best! We Malaysians really bless to have you as our former leader. You will always be remembered by all Malaysians.

  • Mahathir said that only uncivilised people and savages want war. I fully support him and his statements. So whoever said that he would bomb Singapore and slap Singapore and also laughing at Singaporeans for drinking sewage water must be the most uncivilised hypocritical animal that ever call himself a Muslim. Well said Mahathir.

  • singapore shit!

  • n by the way im proud to say that

    im a Muslim n im from Malaysia..

    no other person in this world now, that i respect more than Tun Mahathir Mohamad..

  • i m not from mal but i m muslim n Mahathir is one of my ideal leaders. Btw i will start doing job from Aug 1st in Mal and will go there from norway

  • wikithegreat congrats to you and welcome to Malaysia.

    If you got chance you should go to Mahathir speech one of this day.

    Once again welcome to Malaysia

  • specifically he is Tun Mahathir Mohamad

    former Prima Minister of Malaysia..

    the best speaker of the third world country

    being respected by other leaders of Muslim country..

    thanks haryuudan for the intro..

    =)

  • Is "Allah" a God and Muhammad was a Prophet?

    Bukhari V4B52N220:

    Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand....."

    No wonder Islam history still today was but terror and grabing power.

  • This ain't right man. You're not doing this to learn. You're doing this to hurt people. And as such, hurt God, though ofcourse, God cannot be hurt. Had you believed in God, no matter what religion or lifestyle, you'd never have done this.

  • joaomichigan said:"This ain't right man. You're not doing this to learn. You're doing this to hurt people."

    I am quoting your hadith. the truth always win.

    I know it is hurt for muslims to learn the truth.

  • cariansee said: No wonder Islam history still today was but terror and grabing power.

    You need to read some history. Did you even bother to watch the "Hizb ut Tahrir - An Outcry to the Islamic Ummah" I told you about earlier to see who are the real terrorists?

  • joaomichigan , Muslims are being brainwashed with lies. So you can not comprehend the real history of Islam. You don't realised that your ancestor were kafir who is force to convert to Islam, otherwise you will not existed.

  • joaomichigan said:" I told you about earlier to see who are the real terrorists? "

    Yes the King of terror;

    Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:

    Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand....."

  • As for the ahadith you posted. Obviously, you are void of understanding. Muhammad said "I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)" because he was surrounded by enemies. But because they knew he was a prophet of God, they feared him, so much that they didn't dear to touch him. And hence war, and killing, was avoided.

  • Yes, Allah means God in Arabic. In Arameic, the language of the Bible, it's Alaha, and in Hebrew it's Eloah. Who is to say God is but one?

  • Allah is a generic name of God in Arabic.

    Historically the name of Allah was moon god the chief gods of Arabian pagan.

    Islamic rituals in Mecca/ Kaaba are the continuation of pagans rituals.

  • It clear your Allah help Muhammad in expanding Islam by using terror and intimidation.

    We see today Muslims still are doing it.

    in 2005 3 Indonesians Christians student were beheaded by Muslims AFTER RAMADAN on survive.

    Do google it to see the headless girl.

    You see in Islam nothing is holy even ramadan or after prayer in mosque.

    This prove Islam god is Satan.

  • Did the Bible tell Christians to colonize countries, steal resources and take people slaves?

  • Did Allah tell Muhammad to attact kafir their land and loot and distroyed their culture and force them fo convert to Islam or die?

    YESS.

    47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.

  • 47:4 relates to the Qur'an's definition of "fight", which again, is synonymous to self-defense. Islam didn't spread by force, unless others waged war against the Muslims. You're confusing it with Christianity. As a Christian, I know this.

  • The Qur'an is the only flawless holy book in existence. Nobody seems to be able to find a single mistake in it. Unlike the Bible and the Torah, in which revelations of past prophets are lost in translation and excessive modification. 004.082: "Do they not consider the Quran? Had it been from other than God, surely they would have found therein much discrepancy."

  • The Qur'an further explains facts about the nature of the universe that we're just beginning to understand, as to prove whom it came from. The big bang, the expansion of the universe, the atom, information and DNA, the forming of organisms, the forming of the embryo, the earth's protective layers, the origin of iron, sea water surface tension, continental drifting.

  • Bet you didn't know that huh, ya damn hater

  • guys, google "when the moors ruled europe" and check out that video

  • Muslims scholar are just trying to fit quran with the science.

    No logical person can ever see any connection between Quran and science.

    Quran are just collection of statement and its not science.

    Of Course Muslims are too brainwashed to think logically. They only parroting what their imam or "scholar" said.

  • Today Quran is a second version compilation, The first one under Abu Bakr were distroyed by Uthman.

    Furthermore the compilation is mixed up and un-chronolgical. and worst it does not have backgrounds writen in that book.

  • cariansee, if you are a true Christian, why are you so obsessed putting out lies about your brothers in faith?

  • joaomichigan , I can not be silent if I know the truth of reality of Islam.

    Muslims can not know or realised this because they are in total submission state as slaves.

    46:9 Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.

  • cariansee, you speak as if you care about the Muslims and want them to see your side of the story. Yet you seem to label them as ignorant fools who can't think for themselves. That ain't right man.

  • joaomichigan , I just want Muslims to know the thing that are not told by your imam or scholar.

    5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not of things which, if they were made known unto you, would trouble you; but if ye ask of them when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made known unto you. Allah pardoneth this, for Allah is Forgiving, Clement.

  • lame...still repeat the same things..

    chinese is the engine of the malaysia economy?

    WTF...

  • Yes, in many cases.

    fact; Malay 50.4%, Chinese 23.7%, indigenous 11%, Indian 7.1%, others 7.8%.

    Compare it to the economy of Taiwan, Honkong and Singapore where the Chinese , unlike Malaysia they don't have natural sources, yet their economy are more advance than Malaysia. The story would be different If the majority of Malaysian are Chinese.

    Since China adopted capitalism economy, she is now the second biggest economy in the world.

  • What a strange reply! Sorry to be blunt, but what's your point?Is this academic or are you suggesting that Malaysia would be better off or should be Chinese? or...? I literally don't get it...?

    Given that the video is speaking out against war, are you somehow arguing FOR war with your irrelevant stats? How utterly unhelpful.

  • Quran is corrupted and mixed up.

    todays quran is the second version compilation under Uthman. The first compilation was under Abu Bakr were destroyef by Uthman because of many contraditions.

    Therefore todays Quran is not the original and it has missing verses.

    Read Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 62

  • Abu Bakr made copies. Besides, it was already tradition to memorize the Quran by heart.

    Also, the ahadith you're referring to does not prove your point. It is as irrelevant as the rest of your arguments.

  • Go back to school, kid...

  • joaomichigan no its you who need to go to a real school.

    There are approx. only 1.3 billion Muslims world wide. they only manage to get 7 noble prizes.

    Where else the 15 million Jews got at least 175 noble prizes.

    You see how Islam make Muslims rather uneducated.

  • Without hadith Quran will be irrelevant because it has no background in it.

    It become more a collection of Muhammad words, that can be interpreted as it said/written at all times.

    That is precisely what Islamic jihadis did.

  • Oh yea self defense.

    Listen, you can not fool rational people.

    It was Muhammad that started attacking Kafir fellow Arabs to force them to convert to his religion. His follower carry on attacking other nations outside Arabian peninsula. As the result its obvious that Arab Muslims carrying islamisation and Arabization in the middle east and north africa.

  • cariansee, you are by far the most irrational person in this commentary. You can't invent your own history. What you're saying couldn't be further away from the truth.

  • joaomichigan , you can not face the truth about Islam.

    46:9 Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner

  • I see you're starting to run out of things to say, instead you're just tossing out random quotes with no relevance to this discussion. I will consider Islam the true religion until someone shows me some real proof of the contrary.

  • God bless Mahathir. He alone modernized Malaysia, from a poor and muddy third world country into a rich and prosperous role model for others to follow, especially those who want to make it on their own instead of relying on foreign aid or giving in to economic colonization.

  • Malaysia properity is due to natural resources and 50 % of her citizen are not Malay mostly Chinese who contribute much of the progress of Malaysia.

    They are the true engine of the economy.

  • cariansee, I am a Christian and an ethnic Norwegian. I've studied comparative religion at the University of Oslo, and I know this. The Qur'an is full of miracles, if you don't want to look into the book that was suggested earlier, Google around.

  • kyrreny confessed:"cariansee, I am a Christian and an ethnic Norwegian."

    Here we go again a muslim pretend to be this or that or an exChristians.

    I know Muslims mind.

    Muslims are easy in lying because Islam don't teach morality.

    Can you see that you are a liar, Quran full of Miracle? This satement can only come from ignorant Muslims or a madrasah graduate

  • Ok.

  • joaomichigan said:"I see you're starting to run out of things to say, instead you're just tossing out random quotes "

    Quran verses has no background so I can use it in context what we are discussing.

    46:9 inrelation of you defending Islam as if Islam have salvation.

    5:101 in relation with Muslims lack of knowledge

  • Look at you, you can't even spell properly. Yet you want to make 4.6 billion Muslims denounce their religion?

  • kyrreny said:"Look at you, you can't even spell properly. Yet you want to make 4.6 billion Muslims denounce their religion? "

    False againt there approx. only 1.3 billion Muslims world wide. they only manage to get 7 noble prizes.

    Where else the 15 million Jews got at least 175 noble prizes.

    You see how Islam make Muslims rather uneducated.

  • Sorry, my bad, 1.3 billion Muslims. 4.6 billion humans.

    I agree many Muslims are uneducated. But can you blame them for not having properly gotten back on their feet after all the Western invasions? Look up "Hizb ut Tahrir - An Outcry to the Islamic Ummah" on Google for a quick history lesson.

  • Anyway, cariansee, good luck on your Satanic little project here. I also hope your English improves.

  • I'd love to have a discussion with you on Google Talk or Skype or something. Or I could invite you to Oslo for an inter-faith conference.

  • kyrreny, I study many religion and Moral philosphy. I look at their core or basic belief.

    I found Islam is at the bottom ranking spiritaul wise.

    Give me a universal wisdom verse in Quran if you can find one.

    Islam does not teach love, compassion, forgiveness, sacrify for other then fellow Muslims.

    That is a Cult and not religion.

  • kyrreny said:"Anyway, cariansee, good luck on your Satanic little project here. I also hope your English improves."

    on the contrary it is you who believe in satanic religion. Which started when muhammad meet him in Hira cave.

    2 Corinthians 11:14

    And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

  • No its not because Western invation, but islam invation.

    Islam not only make people poor but also more importantly enslaved Muslims soul and rational thinking.

    Look at the far east how prosperous and more advance then Muslims world.

  • Almost every single Muslim country has been invaded by Western armies by the use of force. Look at the video kyrreny suggested.

    You're saying the Quran has no background? It has its background in the Torah, the Bible, and all past revelations from all past prophets.

  • joaomichigan said:"Almost every single Muslim country has been invaded by Western armies by the use of force"

    That is the result of Muslims breaking the Law of cause and effect.

    Muslims are the first who attack Kafir Countries, loots, destroys local cultures and force them to convert or else.

    Even the last Caliphate did slaughter 2+ million Christians Balkan mostly Armenians.

    You reap what you sow

  • The Torah and Bible stories in Quran are different they are not a background.

    Read the Bible you will see that the verse do have background and you will know the context.

    But Quran is just a collection of Muhammad words which you can not know the context nor do you know whether the verses are in sequence.

  • kyrreny said:"Sorry, my bad, 1.3 billion Muslims. 4.6 billion humans."

    Is that good English?

    You said:"..Yet you want to make 4.6 billion Muslims denounce their religion? "

    And not 4.6 billion human.

  • 2.177 It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards east or west; but it is righteousness---to believe in God and the last day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves."

  • 2.177 Flowery verses.

    The question is which God??

    The next thing to is look at his teaching and the result of its follower.

    Do this god teach love, forgiveness, compassion to ALL MANKIND OR ONLY TO HIS FOLLOWER?

    DOES THE TEACHING TRANSFORM A PERSON INTO A GOOD PERSON OR BLINDED BY EMOTION AND HATRED AND PREPARE TO KILL IN HIS NAME.

  • The teachings demand that you use your head.

    The God in the Bible teaches you to love, but not to stand up for yourself. The God in the Qur'an teaches you to love, but to stand up for yourself and fight for what is good in a world that is filled with evil. It is up to you to choose whether you want to be a man or something less than that.

    Keep in mind that we know very little about the life and teachings of Jesus. Most is fictional.

  • Copy and paste this number into Google "7875444652425208286" and you'll see the video "An Outcry to the Islamic Ummah" -- it is almost impossible to find it otherwise as Google for some reason has buried it.

  • It helps illustrate why Mahathir wants to criminalize war. Other than that, the Zeitgeist movie is just brilliant. I hope there will be many more to follow.

  • joaomichigan said:"Keep in mind that we know very little about the life and teachings of Jesus. Most is fictional."

    Look at Quran, Salomon stories, Stars are lamp ions, jinn enjoy listening reciting of Quran and hadith Muhammad spite the moon. He saw most inhabitant of hell are women. The most bizarre is his claimed of Isra Miraj and meeting with "Gabriel" all with no witness.

    Where else Jesus Miracle performant were witness by many.

  • joaomichigan said:"The teachings demand that you use your head."

    Really why then 5:101;"O ye who believe! Ask not of things which, if they were made known unto you, would trouble you;... "

    Bukhari V8B73N6:

    "The Prophet said, "Allah has forbidden you ... ask too many questions (in religion)..."

  • It teaches you to use your head in worldly matters.

    Unworldly matters, however, are beyond our understanding and also really none of our business, e.g. "who created God", "what was before God" etc. This is what the Prophet meant -- questions that lead you nowhere.

  • The reason of islam forbid Muslims to ask question about Islam religion, becasue Satan know there is no truth in Islam.

    But Jesus teach us to ask, to seek and to knock the door (for truth)

    Because he say that knowing the Truth shall set you free.

    Freedom is not Islam teaching(total submission)

  • joaomichigan said:"The God in the Qur'an teaches you to love"

    Really?

    Give me the verse stating that Allah teach Muslims to love ALL MANKIND/KAFIR AND NOT ONLY MUSLIMS.

  • You talk about love, and of the Bible, but your disrespectful hate makes it obvious you understand neither.

    cariansee said: Really? Give me the verse stating that Allah teach Muslims to love ALL MANKIND/KAFIR AND NOT ONLY MUSLIMS.

    I already did. But seeing as you don't really read any of my replies, you probably missed it. In Islam, everybody, including plants, trees and animals, are born Muslim. A Muslim is really just one that is close to God.

  • I am dismantling the truth of Islam so that you can know the real truth and wake up from your brainwashed condition.

    Give me Quran verse stating that Allah teach Muslims to love ALL MANKIND/KAFIR AND NOT ONLY MUSLIMS.

    Tell me was Muhammad illiterate?

  • Give me the verse stating that Allah teach Muslims to love ALL MANKIND/KAFIR AND NOT ONLY MUSLIMS.

    A person who is close to got should live holy and dare not to lie, hate, terrorise and will love ALL MANKIND AND NOT ONLY FELLOW MUSLIMS.

  • First of all im impressed by your knowledge of the religion cariansee. Im in no way try to offend you or anything but you seem biased/skew in most of your statements. The first time i read the quran (translated) (i think im seven then)it scared the hell out of me (like reading fictional horror), BUT the book is like a puzzle, you might pick up a black piece and think it's rubbish but actually it is just a dot in the whole picture (if you understand what i mean).

  • Unlike the Bible Quran is just a compilation of collection of Muhammad words of statements.

    It has no background in it.

    So it can be interpreted as it writen. because it has no context. What's more Muslims believe that it was Allah words meaning it apply for anytime. hence the rise of Jihadis Islamic fundamentalist.

    If you follow the moderate, the Quran will be irrelevant, because what is writen were refered to 7th century Islamic Arab culture.

  • While im no way supporting any specific religion, you have to admit some religions served it purpose and a major turning point in the history. Oh and you might want to do a bit of research on your own about the crusade and jerusalem, some of your 'facts' sometimes misplaced and try to look at the bigger picture next time before running amok.

  • The truth of a religion can be shown by its fruits in its follower. in Islam case is just look the condition of Islamic and Muslims world today.

    Islam is the only religion that promote terrorism to achieve "Allah cause"

    As for Crusader. They want to take back Christians holy Land which was taken by Muslims.

    Think ! if Mecca was taken by kafir, do Muslims have right to take it back by force?

  • Ok, this is going nowhere. It's like talking to a wall. Or explaining string theory to an animal.

    If you ever grow up and decide you're man enough to meet me in real life and have a debate with me in front of a live audience, send me a message.

    I'm out.

  • kyrreny , wake up.

    Islam don't guarantee salvation:

    46:9 Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.

    You are gambling with your soul.

  • In 46:9, Muhammad is saying he's just a man. He doesn't want to end up being worshiped like Jesus.

    The Qur'an is the most structured, eloquent and rhetoric of the holy books. The numerical structure of the Qur'an counts as one of its many miracles. You'd know that if you'd actually study it.

  • joaomichigan said:"In 46:9, Muhammad is saying he's just a man. He doesn't want to end up being worshiped like Jesus."

    Was it Muhammad who said that or Allah? remember Muslims must believe that Quran verses are Allah words.

    Psychologically in fact that is what Islam teaching really is no salvation. Because it does not understand the law of cause and effect.

  • Whereas Muhammad had something to do with the Qur'an, Jesus had nothing to do with the Bible. The Bible is mainly made up of fictional tales and words of wisdom, very little is actual revelations from actual prophets. No two Bibles are alike, Christians add what they like and remove what they dislike. Google "zeitgeist the movie"

  • It is different with the Qur'an though, which has never been altered. As God says in Surat al-Hijr: "It is We who have sent down the Reminder and We who will preserve it."

  • If you think that the Bible is fictional, its up to you, but you are really blinded by Islam to think that way.

    All miracle, crusifixtion, resurrection and going to heaven were witness by many.

    It was Satan that create Islam and Quran that reject and alter the story of Jesus to deceived Muslims thus preventing them for salvation.

    You must read the Bible and ask God to open your mind.

  • I have the Bible. I love the Bible.

    But Satan can't touch God's word, know what I'm saying?

  • joaomichigan, What do you mean Satan can't touch God's word?

    God's words can be manipulated by Satan, just as it did we it tempt Eva.

    He did the same with the Bible in Quran where he twisted and altered God'words and stories in the Bible at claimed his is the original and the Bible is corrupted.

    His purpose is to deny God salvation for human as Gods children. instead human become his slaves.

  • cariansee: Please stop spreading lies. The Qur'an gives Muslims permission to fight only in self-defense: 2.190: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you." But that shouldn't be no problem, seeing as how they've been attacked, for no apparent reason other than jealousy and hate, ever since the Crusades.

    As for Saudi Arabia, do not confuse corrupt regimes that call themselves Muslim with Islam, when it's clear they do not practice what's taught in the Qur'an and the Hadith.

  • Crusade were taking the holyland back from Muslims. It was the Muslims who taken the holyland.

    If mecca was taken by kafir will you not take it back by forced??

    Think munafik

  • 100% AGREED

    :)

  • yeah.. war is killing ! war ia terrible

    legalize marijuana.. for sake of world peace,

    Weed is enjoyable

  • Al Kafiroon 109: 1. Say: O disbelievers!

    Al Kafiroon109: 2. I worship not that which ye worship;

    Al Kafiroon109: 3. Nor worship ye that which I worship.

    Al Kafiroon109: 4. And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

    Al Kafiroon109: 5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

    Al Kafiroon109: 6. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

  • tell me whose statement are 109:1 - 6 ?

    Were those Allah's or Muhammad?

    If as you believe that Quran is Allah words, then who is Allah worshipping??

    Think this rationally if Quran verses were Allah words and not Muhammad !!

  • Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Don't bother with this person.

  • aifiya , you can not stand the truth of Islam.

    Do you.

    Do you know in Saudi recently a woman who was kidnap and gang raped get punishment of 100 lashes and 6 month in jail thanks to syariah law.

    That is the reality of Islam.

  • Hey u gota point there. I missed that.

  • Not really, that is the reality of Saudi Arabia and how the royal family would go to any length to keep the public terrified and hold onto their own power.

  • hasnat407, wrong, it all based on Shariah law.

    Do you know, that the lawyer of the victim was sacked from his duty because he dare to challenge of the Court. And now he is facing charges for dare to questioning the shariah law.

    FACT SHARIAH LAW IS A CULT RELIGULATION IT HAS NOTING TO DO WITH JUSTICE.

  • The Quran is a Message from Allah (ST) to all mankind. Allah does not worship anyone. If you read closely, the verse starts with "say", meaning its an instruction for men, not Allah's (ST) own action. I believe you miss the point, which was that there is no basis in Islam to use force in order to spread the religion. The verses in of the Quran teach peace and Co-existance.

  • hasnat407 WROTE:"I believe you miss the point, which was that there is no basis in Islam to use force in order to spread the religion."

    You are blind not to read the fact Islam history.

    9:29, "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day...."

    9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them..."

    Show me verses that quran teach peace and co-existance. Do you understand what fighting in "Allah course"

  • You should read the whole chapter, not just quoting them without having any knowledge of islamic law. Go n get the quran (with english translations) at nearest bookstore. Read it. From the beginning, to the last. And shut up.

  • Quran are just collection of Muhammad words most in poem form.

    It has no background. Even the compilation was as the result of interpretation. That is the reason why many verses don't have connection with a verse before or after.

  • And I can say that Bible are collections of Paul's words. Paul.. Paul... and Paul.. Only 10% from the whole bible are the words of Jesus. That's why most bible followers disagree in most of the statement written in it because of its nonsense.

  • dinswok said:"And I can say that Bible are collections of Paul's words. Paul.. Paul... and Paul.."

    You know people around the world can see for themselves how Muslims are so stupid, ignorant and lack of knowledge because of oppressed mindset.

  • Man you are disrespectful. Ain't nothing in you except hate. Had you had any knowledge, at least you'd act like someone who is knowledgeable.

  • kyrreny , it you who don't have any knowledge because you only parroting what your imam or Islamic scholar told you

  • Eg: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, the WORD, and

    the HOLY GHOST: and these three are one." (1st Epistle of John 5:7 - AV) I don't know how English speaking people translates this verse. Even if I read hundreds of time, I will understand.

  • correction: I will NEVER understand.

  • Well dinswok ,maybe God make you say " I will understand"

    Its a prophecy that you will accept Jesus at the end.

    MAKE NOT OF YOUR WORDS WHEN JESUS OPN YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES.

  • How about when Jesus said that there'd be a messenger after him to reveal God's message in full?

  • You say there is no connection between God, the Qur'an and the universe? You need to look up the book "The Quran: Unchallengeable Miracle" on Amazon. Though I bet you'd be too brainwashed to look at anything that claims to shatter the lies you believe in.

  • There are no miracle in Quran.

    You are too brainwashed to admit it.

    Give me an example the Miracle in Quran!!

  • The actual word is "paraclete", synonymous with "the spirit of truth" -- bearing strong resemblance to Prophet Muhammad's title Al Amin, or The Trustworthy. For more, Google "muhammad in the bible" and look up the first hit.

  • tell me where in the Bible said that Jesus say a messenger will come after Him?

    What he promises is The Comforter the Holy Spirit who will be with us for ever.

    MUHAMMAD IS DEAD. HOW CAN HE BE A COMFORTER.

    INFACT HE INSTIL TERROR IN HUMAN HEART VIA HIS TEACHING.

  • Come on you know damn well that comforter ain't no holy spirit. First of all, Jesus said the comforter would come. The Holy Spirit has always been here. Muhammad came. Jesus said God's message would be revealed in full. I don't see the Holy Spirit bringing along no message. All I see is the Qur'an as the only holy book claiming to be the word of God with no bullshit in it.

  • kyrreny said:"Come on you know damn well that comforter ain't no holy spirit."

    You see how ignorant you are. John 14:26

    But the Comforter, who is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

  • LOL..

  • Tun amazes me during his leadership, during all his interviews and he even amazes me during his interview over Astro .Selera Tokoh ke apa ke...he was only talking about his free time and his family but that still had me glued to the telly.Teruskan Tun.Semoga Allah s.w.t merahmati Tun dan isteri sehingga ke akhir hayat..you will always have my prayers...be our leader again..just a wish..some might quote me on this and say that I am a Muslim fanatic that will blow up anyone..lol

  • roslanshapri said:"Semoga Allah s.w.t merahmati"

    You see you are a muslims therefore you have those Muslims mindset one in which being blind submission to leader / caliphate.

    Its psychological effect of Islam religion.

  • ..I am a Muslim,therefore proud of it, happy with it and very,very thankful born as a Muslim..thanks to people like you for reminding me once in awhile and putting me on the right track before i go astray..anyway, psychological effect of a religion are not bound to one religion only..check whats happening to other religion as well..at least i am not going against or downgrading any other religion like what you are doing..so, u must be damn proud with your believes and i congrat u for that..

  • roslanshapri said:"..I am a Muslim,therefore proud of it, happy with it and very,very thankful born as a Muslim.."

    Muslims are the first victim of Islamic psychological deception who become slaves of the dark forces and have a mindset that live in other realm and see through their Master eyes.

    i.e. Muslims jihadis feeling great after beheading two Indonesian Christian girl student in Indonesia.

  • ..how about Christian American soldiers feeling on top of the world after torturing prisoners in Guantanamo bay...how about Israelis soldiers being proud of killing women and children of Palestines?..

  • roslanshapri a treatment against terrorist jihadis is totally different with the case of Jihadis beheading an innocent Indonesian Christians girl student.

    As for Israelly killing women and Children is the old Muslims propaganda.

    Go to Israel and witness yourself.

  • ..ask yourself these...are Buddhists terrorists just because they are fighting for democracy in Myanmar?Are Christians terrorists just because they are killing each other in Ireland because of different churches?Are the Palestinians terrorists because they are fighting for their land in Palestine?Are Iraqis terrorists just because the Americans invaded their country and killed their leader

  • roslanshapri get your fact right.

    The Buddhist only demonstrate and do not terrorised by bombing randomly like Jihadis do.

    Yes IRA are brand terrorist. But now they are no more because they see the common sense.

    IRA was a political movement not religious one.

  • nobody mentioned about IRA..when i spoke of Ireland..it was not of IRA but between churches of different sect....whats the difference in fighting for democracy and fighting for their homeland like what the palestinians did?are israelis not terrorists?

  • Will it make you a terrorist(whatever believes you might hold on to) if someone came and bombed your family and you fight back?

    So,why do you label Islam as a terrorist group and why did you do this in the first place?...and WHY I am i bothered to response to these...I wonder why...psychological effect perhaps?

  • roslanshapri said:"Will it make you a terrorist(whatever believes you might hold on to) if someone came and bombed your family and you fight back?"

    Your Allah make your mind twisted.

    Its the Muslims terrorism who bomb many nation first.

    i.e. the US attack Afganistan because it was the Muslims terrorism who bomb US from 1993 to 2001.

    Get your fact right.

  • Islam is not for peace;

    Hadith Sahih Muslims B004, N1062:

    Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah...said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship..."

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  • .they were acting based on their own fanatical believes...havent you heard there are 5 diferent sect in Islam?read more books boy...not only excerpts from Hadith or Quran that you found on the internet...do your self a favor...

  • roslanshapri said:"they were acting based on their own fanatical believes...havent you heard there are 5 diferent sect in Islam?"

    So why do Muslims always claimed that islam is only one.

    However the existing of 5+ different Islam sect, is the result of Quran being just a collection of Muhammad words that has no background. Without various Hadith. Quran verses can be interpreted either as it said or in millions meaning.

    Think about it.

  • ..The Holy Quran IS one and will always be one and is being used by all Muslims from whatever sects they are from.If u are free enough to do a study on the Quran, none of the verses of the Holy Book have been tempered with or changed from the day it was compiled by the companions of Prophet Muhammad.

  • roslanshapri said:" none of the verses of the Holy Book have been tempered with or changed from the day it was compiled by the companions of Prophet Muhammad. "

    This prove that you are ignorant how Quran was compile. The quran you have now is the second version compile under Uthman.

    The first version by Abu Bakr were destroyed under Uthman instruction.

    Get to know your own Quran.

  • Different sects does not mean different believes but only different leaders but the believes of Allah is ONE and Muhammad is the Last Prophet will always be the same believes to all Muslims. millions of interpretation of Hadith and some are sahih and most are not...whatever the case may be..Holy Quran will and always be ONE.

  • roslanshapri said:"Different sects does not mean different believes but only different leaders but the believes of Allah is ONE"

    That is not the point.

    Because Christians too believe in one God.

    The point is that since Quran has no background so these sect can interpret Quran as they see fit.

  • ..my apologies..4 sects in Islam...see what you have done to my brain...

  • roslanshapri read your holy verses:

    Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

    Qur'an:9:111 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

    Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

    Are those reflect religion of peace?

  • At Tawba 9:111. Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

  • roslanshapri, Tawba 9:111 is deception.

    [46:9] Say: I am not the first of the apostles, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

    Allah can not guarantee Muhammad nor Muslims salvation.

  • Why Tawba 9:111 is a deception?Is it because it does not agree with you?

    Al Ahqaf 46: 9. Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.

    Al Ahqaf 46: 13. Surely those who say, Our Lord is Allah, then they continue on the right way, they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.

  • roslanshapri said:"Why Tawba 9:111 is a deception?Is it because it does not agree with you?"

    Because it contradic with 46:9] Say: I am not the first of the apostles, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

    THINK !!

  • Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."(Where did you actually got this?From your own compilation?)

    At Tawba 9: 69. As in the case of those before you: they were mightier than you in power, and more flourishing in wealth and children. They had their enjoyment of their portion: and ye have of yours, as did those before you; and ye indulge in idle talk as they did. They!- their work are fruitless in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will lose (all spiritual good).

  • roslanshapri said:"Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."(Where did you actually got this?From your own compilation?)"

    Al Tabari is a compilation of various Hadith and Quran verse quote.

    You see you don't really know about the truth of Islam.

  • Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us."

  • Tabari IX:69"Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds.....As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us."

    Well that is Islamic nobility that is the reason why Muslims regards killing as normal.

    Just as the jihadis terrorist do around the world.

  • These are excepts from Tarikh Al Tabari and are not from the Holy Quran.These were compiled by Al Tabari and even in the introduction it was stated that whatever he mention in his book is relied on the news that were narrated by some men. he had attributed these stories to their narrators, without inferring anything from their incidents ...

  • Tabari is a recording a recording what happened during Muhammad times like Hadith do.

    Without these book Quran is invalid because there are no background.

    Legally Hadiths are more historical valid then Quran verses with only contain collection of Muhammad statement (babbling)

  • At Tawba 9: 4. Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).

  • Tawba 9: 4. Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo!.."

    Contradic with

    Qur'an 66:2 "Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows."

    Bukhari:V7B67N427 "The Prophet said, 'If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'"

  • AT Tahrim 66: 1. O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. At Tahrim 66: 2. Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.

  • Tawba 9: 4. contradic with At Tahrim 66: 2

    66:1 has nothing to do with 66:2.

    66:1 is about wife, 66:2 is about war with kafir.

    You see how Quran verses is un-chronological. This is what I said then without background Muslims can interpret the verses as they see fit.

  • where in 66:2 states it is about war with kafir?