Charlie Zeleny Drums: Double Bass Drum Basics

[ukra87sp]

Sometimes it's easier to do it faster than slower :P It's like falling down, the only way to go is fast :)

[thewsca]

It's all about practice.It does come eventually.I've recently started incorporating double bass drum technique into my live playing and once you lock it in,it's a great feeling of achievment.When you've been trying to get to a certain level for so long and you finally get there.It's having the confidence to try it live.

[dieheartmaggot]

Im a fan of all metal, and i have to say that the playing at the end was pretty shitty

[Jello2519]

I like how he says it's easy, when most guys can't even move there arms and like that fast when they masturbate :P let alone count....

[AspiringRocker729]

First thing I noticed: That china on the far right is SO DESTROYED.

[slickvick456]

I have been playing for about 1 and half years now, and still can’t get myself together on the double bass. It’s so hard, cz I can barely play the same everyday..it sucks...

[mike2313ful]

Was wondering if you new how to basically make a pdp double pass pedal better. . . sounds crazy . . I am dead broke . and only have that pedal I think its terrible to play with. . very uneven. When I play with pedals at the store I kill it. . It is frustrating . . just curious if anyone has any thoughts..

[Devilwearsprada96]

I luv it how he says easy n I'm like :o

[Milpup]

that fill is a slipknot fill

[cantstopmike311]

@Milpup How is that a slipknot fill lol it's a drum fill that slipknot used

[MetallfrankOs]

@Milpup not necessarily cause the "slipknot fill" had to come from some were right?

[makmoful]

please give me more praktice your play Double Drum in your Video and please give me you email facebook ok thanks alot friends me from Indonesia

[makmoful]

@makmoful

[makmoful]

Respond to this video... that is very good for charlie Z cant you give me teach more and cant you give you have email pleas becaus a like you play Double Drums this my email @makmoful

[XLingeringWhisperX]

is that a dw 5000?

[spasticpuma]

@XLingeringWhisperX Yes, it has to be. I have the same ones.

[MetalHeadJimi93]

2:18 Sounds like Hot for Teacher mixed with Motorbreath

[flipr1012]

240p for the win!

[RaymundoBerrelleza]

dude thanks to Jesus and you i should be able to play Miss May I in 3 weeks

[asxetos666]

George kollias can play all this with one foot and one hand.

[trinik95]

DAAAMMM!!! FAST HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SabianBoy1]

i kinda like his snare

[MrAlabamaBoy91]

damn.



[Tschoschy96]

now then u speed it up.. it sounds very awsome...(playing) very simple ... :P

[TheMultigenerator]

I love you

[Ruhkxy]

great teacher

[alma7509]

tss...! wish i can do that dobby!

[ImDusky]

You see alot of metal drummers with 2 bassdrums and 2 pedals(like jordisson),is this an advantage? upon bassdrum with 2 pedals?

[Lijnproductions]

@ImDusky Well, i've been drumming for like 9 years, and the advance of the double pedals is that you can play both: single basses and double basses. But he doesn't have 2 basses, he just has a double pedal and 1 bass. You also have bass pedals which automatically play 2 bass drums, without having the option to play just a single bass drum. Good luck ;)

[revkevpratt]

Nice instruction. Lots of good nugs for beginners.

Thanks. Rev. Kev.

[jurasikthrash]

disarmed, this as twitching

[flashpro62]

Just to say, your bass drum sounds a paper tube...

[nicolateolis]

2:25 VERY SIMPLE BWAHAHAHAHA -.-

[drums1109]

@nicolateolis Haha I think he means the technique which I believe is. The speed on the other hand...

[phreestylesk8r]

proggressive metal is the best and this video is helpful

[calynoozz08]

this is so unreal :O

[DK384]

Awesome!!

[TheAmundos]

holy shit!

[yingkalok]

2:25 "very simple"

[encoreee90]

nice guy.. 2:08 d d d d du du du du..speed it up..vrvrvrvrvrvrvrvrvvvfgstydv­fsdtyvfsdtyv...very simple :D:D:D:D:D

[aakkoin]

@encoreee90 IT IS SIMPLE, don't you get it... and mike portnoy has made it a horrible cliche

[nickrock12]

@encoreee90 its sample

[mrabdrum]

@encoreee90 its actually pretty simple lol :P

[Kentsuruki]

2:14 Speed it up... sounds awesome... VERY SIMPLE

yeah sure dude xD

[ZePerfectionist]

How the hell do you sit on a chair while you doubble bass? i always lose balance, what am i doing wrong?

[letsago0]

@ZePerfectionist From my experience, and I too am still working through this the faster I get, you just have to work on balance. Derek Roddy has a useful excercise. He says before you start playing, sit on your seat and raise your fet about an inch off the ground trying not to curl your feet under your seat. Keep your legs up for as long as you can and try to keep your back straight. I get where ur commin from though. A lot of people get used to relying on the human "kickstand" to keep balance.

[iMuTiLaTe]

Great tutorial, thanks. I need double basses and could have them by now but I decided to wait to buy double BASSES instead of double KICKS because I have trouble staying "even" with double kicks.

[Likestodrum334]

When you play sixteenths on the kick and the simple hand pattern up top, your hands wil alwaysl play with your right foot. the rides on all the quater notes and the snare on only 2 & 4 meaning it will go wit your right foot which plays 1&2&3&4&. its a different story for the triplet pattern tho.

[bobby9727]

Hi great Lessons One question.When your doing the 16ths on the bass drum is your left hand(snare) hitting with right foot or your left foot.I am having a hard time getting my right foot hitting perfect with my left hand when i do 16ths with my double pedal.Thanks.

[shekinabass]

acomada el sonido la proxima

[songmaster2011]

the second one sounds like system of a down

[7Sheets2TheWind]

Hey buddy. What do you use to keep the reverb out of your bass drum? suck a sheets or dampners?

[TheGhettoGuitarist]

the 4 hand 2 feet thing sounds like the begining of hatredy by dethklok

[ObsessedPig]

there is a difference between simple and easy you guys....this IS simple, that doesnt mean it doesnt take alot of practice to work up speed.

[BandAnimated]

how long do i have to practice for a technique like you have? (a)

[saraworm]

very simple... HAHA!

[Craxols]

mmmmmmm yeshhhh very simpleeeeee lol... awesome lesson dude!

[RutboyNiles]

@IrieDrumS Because it IS simple.

[DISARRAY3]

WHAT IS WITH THE PAWN SHOP CHINA WITH A CHUNK OUT OF IT? TOOK THE VID FROM AN 8 TO A 2 WITH THAT ONE....

[SharkBitch]

Awesome!!! Thank you!!!

[zike389]

and i call that at 2 54 doubles under doubles or quads under quads

[Fa113nWarri0r]

2:34 fuck that...lol

[MetallicMikey]

@Fa113nWarri0r It's all practice. Just practice doing that every day and you'll have it down at a good speed in no time.

[dain100]

@Fa113nWarri0r its easy

[Kudan26]

well... it is easy... D:

[MattKondrath]

im sorry but the band thing at the end just sounded like random shit... and i listen to the most chaotic metal out there >.>

[JPJHDD]

@IrieDrumS Oh yeah, like that‘s very simple hahahahaha

[EpicSpiffer]

ahh, I remember about a year ago when i got a double pedal watching these videos like "wtf thats so hard!" but after a while of practising and playing double kick everyday for a year or so you will realise its not difficult :)

BTW please Check out my drum covers

[9960058]

2.25 very simple

[djjjozsi]

nice :)

[nickrock12]

@IrieDrumS lol it's simple lol you just need some practice

[1xadavid]

Oh come on guys this is SOOOOOOO SIMPLE. *sarcasm intended*

[gangsterthomas1000]

new dream theater drummer spotted :)

[allmetaliswelcome]

2:25 is actually very simple indeed

[CkSandwich]

how dos he go so damn fast?

nah I'm jus bein an asshol cause I'm drink

sjajhahah. shits cred

[MrCommenterful]

the first beat you can do with heal toe.

[TreHundreKroner]

Haha! 2:25  ya, veery simple..

=)

[N0bb13]

When I watch this, he is moving all of his leg. I got taught to create the kick from your ankle whilst keeping the rest of your leg still.

What is the correct/best technique ?

[gillieman760]

@N0bb13 usually when you are playing at lower BPM, its easier to keep rhythm using more leg movement, as the BPM's get higher you begin using mainly your ankles and calf's. whatever works for YOU. as long as you're having fun who cares

[ToAsTmAn119911]

lol Those are very simple. Anything even over doubles is pretty much easy. Groups over quads is weird though. Also, for people wondering about heel toe; do not use shoes while doing it. Also, dont try learning it on flat ground and then taking it to a pedal. Heel toe takes awhile to learn, and you wont get clean doubles at first, so start slow. Hah, im hoping this guy isnt going to be the drummer for Dream Theater, he's good, but styles dont match. He'll lead DT to blast beats lol.

[MBeautifulMourningH]

very simple my ass!

[DrumT4rd1337]

@IrieDrumS Why it is actually VERY simple once you learn the technique.

[deathmetalterrorist]

Behold... The Arctopus!!! \,,/

[aso209]

veeeeeryyyy simple?huh!!! hahahahaha!!!

[jshads88]

not dissing in any way but this is pretty much joey jordisons back catolouge

[porangeasaurus]

you should do a vid on slide or heel toe technique so kids actually know HOW to play double bass

[TearAddict]

That is some awesome drumming.

[aassyr1111]

man its not "Veeerry simple.

[Jeijo1]

a hundred bucks says this guy will be the next drummer for dream theater

[vbdude006]

@Jeijo1 Sorry to dissappoint :P

[cpjackson79]

@Jeijo1 Is that 100 x the number of comments on the video?

[TozeDT]

@Jeijo1 i want those 100$...NOW xD

[raokin466]

@Jeijo1 seems like you missed a hundred bucks, it's Mike Mangini

[xDrummingPiex]

@Jeijo1 You sir, owe me 100 dollars

[dreamtheaterz28]

@Jeijo1 Looks like you owe alot of people a hundred bucks : D

[The4thGuy]

@Jeijo1 $100 bucks please...

[quintmasta14]

@Jeijo1 Nope! Mike Mangini lol

[jakubrox19]

@IrieDrumS it is very simple actually

[stexnookie]

damn that kit sound stupid!

[Drum4evr22]

his double bass on that kit sounds like a helicopter

[Kikidud]

2:37

Psychosocial <3

[DISARRAY3]

WHAT IS WITH HIS SETUP?? NICE CHUNK MISSING OUT OF THAT CHINA...

[btodalew9890]

... i gotta get a drum kit, man...

[SelfAmputation]

This the badass from Blotted Science?

[nickmeadrums]

@SelfAmputation yup

[HIMSk8rCKY]

What Kind Of Set Do You Use that Thing Sounds Great

[thatentrenchingtool]

Excellent video; concise, articulate explanations, good camera angles & lighting, good sound, and all around de-mystifies some core components to the style. A+++++

[85Dethbabe]

He says " a lot of guys use this " GIRLS DO TOO!!!!! That's all I wanted to share, thank you...

[unicursalhex]

The Sonors must sound so much better than those buckets

[Addalucija]

too much talking not enough playing!

[tenordrummercj]

@IrieDrumS cause for anyone who is a drummer it is haha

[carfreak213]

your drumset sounds like shit and you ahve some fcking good ass mics

[gigakoulis]

and just speed it up... Yeah, how ?!

[loblit05]

@gigakoulis by practicing

[MySlipknot100]

cool

[ligthingblade]

That is an acelerator turbo or nylon dw?

[ligthingblade]

By the way, what double bass drum pedal r u playing?.... I loved its sound

[ZackBratton528]

@ligthingblade It's a DW 5000.

[ligthingblade]

You played some megadeth songs xD

[JoneyDuca]

Pass n' listen to my rmx "I need your Loving".. You will like it.I Promess..

[doubleshot555]

2:18 - 2:26 whoaaaaaahhh

[aeroman4life]

@doubleshot555 how about 2:58 to 3:05

[landroverdisco100]

his guy is the shiz

[landroverdisco100]

his guy is the shiz

[peapotato]

paiste rude china damn

[schnarfel]

@IrieDrumS i know, right after a s;jg/;ahsgILAWHfg'wfiqw'irgasv­'sf

[Dsteve96]

1:57 Chris Adler

[petersinol]

heh, because it IS very simple:) One of the easiest things in drumming. Very effective but not hard to do.

[DEADMANSJOURNAL]

@petersinol lol thank you!! everyone is like "omg not simple." but it really is..

[DeathToAllButMetal01]

That makes it all look so easy

[MrCraig133]

@DeathToAllButMetal01 zc sdfvsdvwedvasdv

[andi23rosca]

awesome drum skills

[j10p31c]

are those drum mics just there for show?

[MrYeswecan14]

this dudes so cool

[firdausmukhtar]

i carved a smile when he turn to lightning mode...

awesome!

[CHAOTIKProject]

That snare kills a few of my brain cells each time he hits it. God, I hate it :P

[slipknottXmaggot]

fuck man!!! I wish drums werent so god damn expensive!!! I always wanted to be a drummer sssoooo bad, but cant afford it, had to settle with a bass guitar...oh well, thats pretty fun too

[ShannonVenasse]

@slipknottXmaggot ...I hear ya on that one!!

[mgzt190plus]

WOW! if this dude can compose songs and write lyrics and act in movies and play keyboards, we have the next Phil Collins! Except, Phil doesn't use double bass drums. So why would anyone else? Oh damn, forgot Chester eeek!

Great vid thanks poster, this guy is damn good! I mean REALLY good!

Many thanks.

[RockDrumWorld]

I didn't get that second beat....

[MacaIsDahBomb]

Lol @ "Very simple" xDDDDD

[retardedsnake]

i love the way he just merks up the kit so you cant see his hands nd hes just like "very simple!" utter legend

[mediateketsdeg]

PRO!!!!!"!!!

[NewYorkJets99]

The Triplets section sounded awesome. Nice video. \m/.

[Mattmoo36]

just what i was looking for, thanks :)

[drakethekool56594]

do you have any tips on like how tight the springs should be i keep trying to position the pedals right so i dont ware myself out to fast

[Meatlooaf]

Just play with it, you'll find your settings.

[KllswtchOvrDrv]

EPIC

[Sk8trdude1234]

i havent been drumming long, about a month ever since i had my drum kit, but this vid has helped alot x)

[schlabbeldibabbeldib]

first, you should play other things.

[WelshR3dneck]

i just started drumming and this video really helped me out. thanks dude!

ill be checking out your other vids!

[mangie222]

i have those exact pedals :P

[gency11]

thanks dude this vid is great thumbs up!!

[VikingDrumm19]

Yeah,nice tutotorial!!!

[aLeCThOmAs13]

This video is like really super duper helpful i recomend people who are first get there double bass pedal to look at this video first thing.

[DrummerAhead15]

Can someone help me ahah, I've been watching this vid multiple times doing single strokes and alternating my feet RLRLRL, yet i do it very slow and still loose a smooth consistant pattern. I go like 4 mph ahah and i loose it plus.... I dont understand heel down i put my heels down and my feet wont move uo and down cause my foot simply cant move up or down without snapping my bone tbh..

[tactusvamp]

basicly it just takes practice to keep a solid beat, there's no trick to get good and fast in a short time. if it doesn't feel good to keep your heels down then don't. everybody plays them a little different, it's all about what feels comfortable and works for you. keep practicing you'll get it.

[ajhsdrumgod]

The fill with 4 on the hands and 2 on the feet is one of my favorites to play =D

[001001011010]

that alternating double fill is sick

[santim777]

ssteee..ueeeee!!!

[utter125]

thanks for fills man! very helpfull :D

[soulformusic4020]

it sounds awsome. lol

[GunthorThePie]

You should TOTALLY learn Beast and The Harlot by Avenged Sevenfold ;) Ace drumming man (Y)

[PaintballFreak6850]

fuck that, xenochrist would impress me

[mastercj95]

@PaintballFreak6850 right? rofl that song is crazy

[aditwi]

fuckin awesome dude u ve inspired me a lot i can do all this stuff but at that speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!

[Alyssa71808]

that was so Awesome! the Fills were AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[millz726]

you make it look soo easy, but its the hardest shit in the world!!!!

except for jazz and funk.

i swear some of the stuff my step dad does is impossible, or not ment 4 humans....

[srijankiller]

i wud suggest u play 8th notes or slow patterns HEEL DOWn and Faster one HEEL UP and to maintain STAmina and CleaNESS use SWEVEL motion,,,,,but ONE MAIN THING :::: PRACTICE PERFECTLY and HAVE FUN with iT!!!!!!

[ruaridouglas]

This guy plays smooth!!!

[scurlcube]

i just got a pedal,and im surprised how easy it is to do this stuff, the only thing for me is that it takes conditioning to do it fast / precise but otherwise the syncopation isn't hard, and sounds bad ass!