"I hear the river crying"...No that is just gas seeping out of people who are full of crap. Your statistics are lies. I am from West Virginia. I was born and raised there...and you people are liars. Wind will never come close to supplying America's energt needs.neither will corn byproducts,or used deep fryer oil. The problem with coal lies with the federal government period. Each and every federal agency in charge of law enforcement in coal operations is corrupt.
"Man did not weave the web of life. He is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." -Native American Chief Seattle. 1800's.
You know what sight would be more beautiful than a mountain? A free market. But we'll never see one. There'll always be thieves and the cleverest of them will get the mob to praise them, like environmentalists do the damage to man, rather than kill them.
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Why dont you people gtfo of wv. you peoplehave no lives and do nothing productive for society. These miners are just trying to make a living. You people have no clue what u r talking about,all mines cannot be underground. At least after mining is over they reclaim the land,But its ok if the flatten a mountain for a mall or airport right? You people are a joke.
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This is a joke. You wonder why the economy is bad when people hold back companies because of how it affects nothing. Newer mining technique equal safer, cleaner mining. You watch to many movies about big bad companies. Destruction of the environment isn't good business. Do you think that wind farms aren't going to hurt the environment. The only reason that anyone believes in wind farms are because they are promoted in the media by GE who owns the media and produces the windmills. Hmmmm
First of all, they do blow off the tops of mountains to get at the coal. You can go to WV and watch it first-hand like I have. And yes I think wind farms are environmentally benign. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? In addition, wind power is economically competitive with coal power. If it wasnt, you wouldnt see large scale wind farms being built by national and regional utilities.
Wind is NOT economically competitive when matched straight against coal. The reason why there are wind turbines out there is because the U.S. Gov. has paid countless dollars to make it worth while (to counter the cost) of wind energy over that of coal. And where does all that money come from? Either our pockets as tax payers or just adding to the national dept. And we wont see "large scale" farms built because wind is never predictable, therefor not a reliable energy source.
Coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear are all heavily subsized by the government too. All you need to do is drive from Nebraska to California on I-80; lots of large scale wind farms especially Wyoming. Texas has many large scale farms and the DoE has published a report that offshore wind farms can produce a very significant amount of US energy needs (dont remember %). Wind is actually very predictable and strong offshore.
True that virtually all forms of energy production at subsidized lumping them all together would be saying that alcohol is the same proof... According to the Energy Information Administration (from the U.S. Gov.) Wind is the most subsidized out of ANY energy production form. (EIA Subsidy) Can you really believe that wind turbines are going to be built on mass out in the ocean??? And the ones already built are inefficient.
That is true that some forms are subsidized more than others. I do question that wind is the most subsidized. Military costs are rarely factored in these calculations and should be for oil. Nuclear is by far the most expensive. Europe has done ocean turbines, and people have been wanting to develop them off the NE coast for 5-6 years now, but a bunch of rich people keep complaining it will be an eye sore even though they probably wont be able to see them.
@billythekid844 Check it out, it's a quick google search. I would post the link but it wont let me. Just search Subsidies U.S. Energy and the first link i'm pretty sure from the E.I.A. Clear that Wind is the most subsidized.
What military are you talking about???
Well I dont know about that, I know coal, wind, nuclear, and some about oil, specifically ANWR.
Nuclear is the CHEEPEST at 1.72 cents/kwh according to the Nuclear Energy institute. compared to coal at 2.37 cents/kwh
The United States military. Iraq and Saudi Arabia are the obvious ones, but there are bases all over the world protecting US access to oil.
Nuclear can be misleading because in the US, we have not built a new plant since the 1970s. In other words, the current cost of nuclear is maintenance. But as soon as you want to build a new plant, the cost skyrockets. So if 1.72 cents/kwh factors in new construction, then okay.
True that virtually all forms of energy production at subsidized lumping them all together would be saying that alcohol is the same proof... According to the Energy Information Administration (from the U.S. Gov.) Wind is the most subsidized out of ANY energy production form. (EIA Subsidy) Can you really believe that wind turbines are going to be built on mass out in the ocean??? And the ones already built are inefficient.
Wind power is better than coal mining. If they built wind towers, then there are permanent jobs.
If they blew up the mountain, then there will be a limited time of jobs for mining. The miners will be breathing in dust and crap. Coal fired plants will spew out large amount of toxins in to the air.
Why would you send people to the mines, when they can just work on wind turbines? You are one sick sadistic person.
i heard about MTR a few years ago and I came from WI to visit WV. I couldn't believe that big coal was destroying and leveling out mountains which causes horrible erosion patterns and unsafe drinking water.
I just donated!
Can you please include the website in the description. It was hard to find it. Thank you!
beautifuldorks 1 week ago
I need this song!!!!!
XEPICfailGAMERX 7 months ago
2000 MILES OF STREAMS BURNED
zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 1 year ago
the song is by Pamela Chen.
google her name and you can get more info on her website under projects, hulucom.
jgazso 1 year ago
It's been 11 months since I last asked for the name of the song. The internets has failed me, as have I failed myself. I am sad.
jdub03 1 year ago
FUCK TREE HUGGERS!
CvilleTigers11 1 year ago
@scifive48 You just won the internets.
jdavidson091 1 year ago
Still? no one knows the song?
abjc89 1 year ago
For those who wanted the music i think its point of balance by the steven kirby quartet not sure if you can listen to the music...
acjlarsen08 1 year ago
"I hear the river crying"...No that is just gas seeping out of people who are full of crap. Your statistics are lies. I am from West Virginia. I was born and raised there...and you people are liars. Wind will never come close to supplying America's energt needs.neither will corn byproducts,or used deep fryer oil. The problem with coal lies with the federal government period. Each and every federal agency in charge of law enforcement in coal operations is corrupt.
pvtdinky 1 year ago
@emeraldfranc Idiot.
bapyou 1 year ago
wat is the name of the music i want to get it
it sounds cool
alive852 1 year ago
yeah what is the song!! it is in the Zeitgeist movies also.
pieterxc 2 years ago
WHAT IS THE SONG CALLED!
txtingtj1 2 years ago 8
"Man did not weave the web of life. He is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." -Native American Chief Seattle. 1800's.
schererart 2 years ago
marketing genius.
thecritiqu 2 years ago
I want to download the song to this off amazon. Anybody know the name?
jdub03 2 years ago 4
@jdub03 i know this song is beast i would buy it too
ilovetechnology14 2 years ago
Yeah it is. I still haven't found the name of the song. I'll keep searching until I do.
jdub03 2 years ago
You know what sight would be more beautiful than a mountain? A free market. But we'll never see one. There'll always be thieves and the cleverest of them will get the mob to praise them, like environmentalists do the damage to man, rather than kill them.
Kogerii 2 years ago
WTF is wrong with people, just buy some solar panels & stop destroying mountains.
nowellian 2 years ago 2
I am sorry my God has to see this distruction of his beautiful creation. I know he is sad.
angelarexroad 2 years ago
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Why dont you people gtfo of wv. you peoplehave no lives and do nothing productive for society. These miners are just trying to make a living. You people have no clue what u r talking about,all mines cannot be underground. At least after mining is over they reclaim the land,But its ok if the flatten a mountain for a mall or airport right? You people are a joke.
shipthemback 2 years ago
"I hear the river crying, something isnt right, I see a mountain dying, right before my eyes"
-Railroad Earth
ecnal30 2 years ago 5
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This is a joke. You wonder why the economy is bad when people hold back companies because of how it affects nothing. Newer mining technique equal safer, cleaner mining. You watch to many movies about big bad companies. Destruction of the environment isn't good business. Do you think that wind farms aren't going to hurt the environment. The only reason that anyone believes in wind farms are because they are promoted in the media by GE who owns the media and produces the windmills. Hmmmm
dh81787 2 years ago
First of all, they do blow off the tops of mountains to get at the coal. You can go to WV and watch it first-hand like I have. And yes I think wind farms are environmentally benign. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? In addition, wind power is economically competitive with coal power. If it wasnt, you wouldnt see large scale wind farms being built by national and regional utilities.
billythekid844 2 years ago 9
@billythekid844
Wind is NOT economically competitive when matched straight against coal. The reason why there are wind turbines out there is because the U.S. Gov. has paid countless dollars to make it worth while (to counter the cost) of wind energy over that of coal. And where does all that money come from? Either our pockets as tax payers or just adding to the national dept. And we wont see "large scale" farms built because wind is never predictable, therefor not a reliable energy source.
edgebardo 10 months ago
@edgebardo
Coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear are all heavily subsized by the government too. All you need to do is drive from Nebraska to California on I-80; lots of large scale wind farms especially Wyoming. Texas has many large scale farms and the DoE has published a report that offshore wind farms can produce a very significant amount of US energy needs (dont remember %). Wind is actually very predictable and strong offshore.
billythekid844 10 months ago
@billythekid844
True that virtually all forms of energy production at subsidized lumping them all together would be saying that alcohol is the same proof... According to the Energy Information Administration (from the U.S. Gov.) Wind is the most subsidized out of ANY energy production form. (EIA Subsidy) Can you really believe that wind turbines are going to be built on mass out in the ocean??? And the ones already built are inefficient.
edgebardo 10 months ago
@edgebardo
That is true that some forms are subsidized more than others. I do question that wind is the most subsidized. Military costs are rarely factored in these calculations and should be for oil. Nuclear is by far the most expensive. Europe has done ocean turbines, and people have been wanting to develop them off the NE coast for 5-6 years now, but a bunch of rich people keep complaining it will be an eye sore even though they probably wont be able to see them.
billythekid844 10 months ago
@billythekid844 Check it out, it's a quick google search. I would post the link but it wont let me. Just search Subsidies U.S. Energy and the first link i'm pretty sure from the E.I.A. Clear that Wind is the most subsidized.
What military are you talking about???
Well I dont know about that, I know coal, wind, nuclear, and some about oil, specifically ANWR.
Nuclear is the CHEEPEST at 1.72 cents/kwh according to the Nuclear Energy institute. compared to coal at 2.37 cents/kwh
edgebardo 10 months ago
@edgebardo
The United States military. Iraq and Saudi Arabia are the obvious ones, but there are bases all over the world protecting US access to oil.
Nuclear can be misleading because in the US, we have not built a new plant since the 1970s. In other words, the current cost of nuclear is maintenance. But as soon as you want to build a new plant, the cost skyrockets. So if 1.72 cents/kwh factors in new construction, then okay.
billythekid844 10 months ago
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@billythekid844
True that virtually all forms of energy production at subsidized lumping them all together would be saying that alcohol is the same proof... According to the Energy Information Administration (from the U.S. Gov.) Wind is the most subsidized out of ANY energy production form. (EIA Subsidy) Can you really believe that wind turbines are going to be built on mass out in the ocean??? And the ones already built are inefficient.
edgebardo 10 months ago
Why don't you take a visit here and judge it with your own two eyes?
eers2ya 2 years ago 2
Wind power is better than coal mining. If they built wind towers, then there are permanent jobs.
If they blew up the mountain, then there will be a limited time of jobs for mining. The miners will be breathing in dust and crap. Coal fired plants will spew out large amount of toxins in to the air.
Why would you send people to the mines, when they can just work on wind turbines? You are one sick sadistic person.
ratryu 2 years ago 3
i heard about MTR a few years ago and I came from WI to visit WV. I couldn't believe that big coal was destroying and leveling out mountains which causes horrible erosion patterns and unsafe drinking water.
mbuckster 2 years ago 3
Oh, very nifty. Do you know the song name?
UrbanTwitch 2 years ago
really? the song name?
heylukeydukey 2 years ago