Dragon Age: Origins ~ Return To Ostagar - What remained of Duncan.. in an dead Ogre

[zorrgon56]

I still dont get why the army under Loghains control betrayed the king. If I was a soldier in that I would try to rally everyone to charge over Loghain and flank the Darkspawn Horde, not just follow a bitches orders and run away!

[sushanalone]

@zorrgon56 if you do this dlc you will realise that Cailan was planning a peace treaty with Orlains , Logain hated them and didnt want that to happen, plus he would be in a powerful position if cailan was dead as his daughter was the queen. i had doubts about Logains loyalty vs pragmatism but finding the documents fromt he kings chest here proves he betrayed the king for his own plans.

[OmegaSamaRed]

@sushanalone Didn't it also have something to do with the heavily suggested 'betrayal' of Anora? Ina certain letter the empress suggests that since Anora can't provide Cailan with an heir, that the two ought to unite forces. From what I remember Loghain wasn't exactly happy about those rumors, one of the guards at Ostagar even suggested the two had been arguing about the queen.

[sushanalone]

@OmegaSamaRed yah ure right that too

[ItIsTheInvisibleMan]

@sushanalone He didn't know about those documents though. He was enraged becasue Calian was planning to marry the empress of Orlais (confirmed by David Gaider lead writer, because it was thought Anora was unable of producing an heir) and Loghain was furiouse.

[Grrymjo]

I wonder if Ferelden is in the southern hemisphere of their world.

[WolfytheWolf5667]

and the females were brought down to become Broodmothers spawning tens of thousands of Darkspawn.

I guess there's only 3 blights left until the Darkspawn cease to exist. Forever. Without Gods to corrupt, they can't resurrect themselves.

[usafsf1016]

@WolfytheWolf5667

I thought that Origins was the Fifth Blight, and there were 7 Old Gods? I'm just making sure I didn't miss anything

[WolfytheWolf5667]

@usafsf1016

Oh, two then.

That just makes them even more easy to kill. But what I don't get is, why would people think that the Grey wardens would attack the King? what, to "ally with the darkspawn?" are people in Fereldan so retarded they think Darkspawn would ever work alongside Humans?

[usafsf1016]

@WolfytheWolf5667 I'm not sure of the logic they used either, and to be honest I don't even see how Loghain got away with desertion that directly led to the King's death, I would think that irregardless of risk it's treason to leave your king to die. So, I guess that's the mindset they have, a little bit backwards.. I LOVE the game though, and I hope I get to kill those next two ArchDemons, Just in case this is taken wrong I'm not a troll.

[OmegaSamaRed]

@WolfytheWolf5667 Because in another DLC (Warden's keep) you learn that the Grey wardens tried to overthrow a king once, though for good reason. The wardens were cornered at Soldier's Peak and slaughtered/starved. King Arland was a tyrant, but he was remembered as a good king nonetheless even though little is known. Meanwhile the wardens were 'exiled' from Fereldan due to their supposed coupe d'etat. It wasn't until king Maric I believe that the wardens were no longer outlawed (books),

[OmegaSamaRed]

@WolfytheWolf5667 (Darned word limit) So basically the wardens went down in history as dangerous traitors. Many still distrust them and don't know the real reason the wardens attacked king Arland. On top of that most believe that the wardens destroyed the dark-spawn entirely during the last blight. Most people thought they simply betrayed yet another king while exaggerating the number of dark-spawn. People believe Loghain over the wardens because he's a war hero that helped free Fereldan.

[SealDude]

@usafsf1016 there are 5 old gods

dragon age origins is the fourth blight

so mankind onlyh ave to endure 1 more blight :D

(i bet dragon age 3 will be a load shit of wars and conflicts: Blight, Qunari invading the rest of the world, mages vs templar war)

[ShadowPhoenixKC]

@SealDude Actually, Dragon Age Origins was the 5th Blight. Garahel took down the Archdemon Andoral to end the 4th Blight.

[SealDude]

@ShadowPhoenixKC my bad.

then there are 6 old gods..atleast according to the dragon age wiki there is going to be atleast 1 more blight

[ShadowPhoenixKC]

@SealDude 7, 7 old gods it says. So two more blights

[SealDude]

@ShadowPhoenixKC oh yeah

[braddy000]

Duncan didn't deserve to get eaten :'(

[GrizzIy2O]

To the people wondering why there aren't many bodies, or any bodies at ALL. THE DARKSPAWN EAT HUMANS. THE FLESH. THE MEAT. EVERYTHING.

[Vampirvork]

ohh duncan will i hope appear in dragon age 2 or 3

and i also hope that the bloodline between the couslands and howes are in war

Fergus Cousland is awesome

[braddy000]

where is all the bodies?

[Warrior536]

@braddy000

maybe the darkspawn cleared them out for some reason?

[GrizzIy2O]

@Warrior536 they ate them

[swordmaster536]

@Warrior536 the darkspawn feed on meat only any meat at all i figured people would know this about half the people you talk to in ostagar will say somethin about darkspawn and thier meals

[9beatles]

@swordmaster536 duncan may not have been eaten, at first.  *SPOILER

the archetect uses grey warden blood to make darkspawn talk, so how do you think he got a warden's blood before they attacked vigils keep, he could have been eaten after

[MCLindemann]

@9beatles *POTENTIAL SPOILER* Correction: He got the blood from Utha, the dwarf that was with him in Awakening. If he didn't have Grey Warden blood before Ostagar, the arch demon wouldn't have it awakened when it did; The Architect awakened the arch demon. Duncan was most definitely eaten.

[MCLindemann]

@9beatles *POTENTIAL SPOILER* Correction: He got the blood from Utha, the dwarf that was with him in Awakening. If he didn't have Grey Warden blood before Ostagar, the arch demon wouldn't have it awakened when it did; The Architect awakened the arch demon. Duncan was most definitely eaten.

[MCLindemann]

@9beatles (POTENTIAL SPOILER) Correction: He got the blood from Utha, the dwarf that was with him in Awakening. If he didn't have Grey Warden blood before Ostagar, the arch demon wouldn't have it awakened when it did; The Architect awakened the arch demon. Duncan was most definitely eaten.

[GrizzIy2O]

@braddy000 The darkspawn feed on human flesh. They ate them.

[Bobbilhead]

Is this a mod??I have xbox 360 and was wondering?

[JMSLionheart]

Duncan is still alive, I think he is with the Architect (no matter if you kill him in Awakening, it's like Flemeth, immortal), and will appear in DA 2 or 3. If a simple ogre can be resurrected... no difference for Duncan.

[zeratul1356]

@JMSLionheart

wtf did you get that assumption?Of course hes dead!

[JMSLionheart]

@zeratul1356 I was joking, I know it, but the fact is that we haven't seen his dead body yet. And Duncan will be remembered in DA 2, maybe in form of statue.

[GothicVampireism]

psh id kick the ogers ass! id be like bring it BITCH

[RosalieHale1995]

the background music is kick ass.

[tehmackness]

is this really what you pay for? a revived ogre that killed the king?

[HaloFlood6]

maybe duncan somehow escapsed and will be in the next expansion?

[Rancor856]

@HaloFlood6 well he did do the naration for the end of the game so he had to be alive

[anthonyforch]

How come duncans body was no where to be found? And the kings body still had flesh? Strange....

[yohunter5]

bad ass ogre