Keith Carlock: Modern Drummer Festival 2005

[paisteguy799]

those drums sound so good

[amaupin4111]

Man is it just me or did he do at least 5+ lines before this show? Man's pale as a ghost and has huge bags under his eyes..

[DrummingNonStop]

Such and odd setup.

[benediktstehle]

WWWWWWW

[benediktstehle]

FLOOOOOOOWWW

[benediktstehle]

no flow like his flow.

[chungiemunchin]

This dude is just so good! There is a lot to learn by watching his style and checking out his time feel. Practice, practice, practice! oh yeah....and then........PRACTICE!

[sailingandmusic]

Hey Folks. . You can see and hear Keith in action on the new RUDDER live DVD. over 2 hours of footage, and a big keith drum solo. Four Camera shoot, mixed by nic hard. nineteeneight (dot) com

[kewlfonz]

Keith's got such a lovely, light musical touch. When he needs to drop bombs or get loud snare accents etc, he's got that, but unlike a lot of drummers who just beat the living daylights out of their kits, this guy plays melodically and sensitively—This guys' a wizzard without any doubt.

Remember if you always bash every part of the kit, where else can you go? Because drums don't have scales and arpegios as such, melody has to be implied by using many varying degrees of force.

Nice going Keith.

[Kolenschopper]

It amazes my that the drummix and sound is this crappy. And that for people who should know how drums ought to sound.

[MrHydrogoon]

what a player

[storagedog33]

Have been studying his dvd for a few months. Don't don't don't underestimate Keith's arms and stick motions. If you focus on and practice towards gaining those high arm whips and stick paths/motions and can learn to get that whipping velocity, you will be amazed when your doubles starting having that type of power and volume. You will feel like that is no effort to it.....and there won't be much...

[godzuki444]

@storagedog33 Do you suggest his dvd ?

[blight4hire]

what is the metronome timing for this song?

[paisteguy799]

@blight4hire u mean time signiature> and its in 4/4, keith just never really accentuates the 1 which is just so cool

[blight4hire]

0.44- 0.46 - i think the fill he played was like that. a paradiddle-diddle twice then with doubles on the feet and you do it twice. The first R L are played on the toms then the rest on the snare. any experienced drummer want to correct me? because i am trying to figure out how to do that fill. its so tasty

[kewlfonz]

@blight4hire That fast roll which is the fill I think you're referring to, is in fact a sixteenth note triplet played with a double stroke roll. This is a very hard rudiment/phrase to play because it requires an accent on the first note of the first double and then an accent on the second note of the second double=R r l L r r L l r R

Yeh, if you want to get good, learn how to put accents into double stroke rolls—should keep you busy...

[Kelavmeister]

@kewlfonz ...I dont think so. It's a common 8 note grouping he does, consisting of two bass drum hits, and a paradiddle-diddle. Sometimes he'll tighten up the first two snare hits into a flam. Check out his other solos and you'll see it all over the place. On drummerworld they have a solo from his DVD, it's got better audio for clarification!

[tutalus]

Look at the lean on his snare drum... beautiful...

[paisteguy799]

best sounding drums ive prolly ever heard, and probably the greatest phrasing on a drum set ive ever heard, keith is ridiculously good and original

[colourfulwithaU]

I love his setup.

[webstercat]

the left side cymbal,what is it?

[Moog167]

@webstercat It looks like a K Special Dry ride

[dreadkillah610]

Man got some groove in him

[DaFeeshey]

Flawless

[DeGreesRemix]

Does anybody know what sort of hihats he plays in this clip?

Thanks

[Stupar28]

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeee

[patrycjusz43]

SUPERRRRR

[w9jon]

ive seen keith live, he has the most beautiful snare drum in the world!

[Stupar28]

vrh...

[ShroomSamich]

qoq

[ostrichfoot]

not true friend.... I got an album of a live smooth jazz group (dont remeber the name of the band) keith was playing drums before he got real known and it was not happening at all. This was at least 10 years ago..

the theme of the story is you got a sound!!!! find it!!!!!! Gadd cant do what Vinnie does.... Paul Motion can't do what bill stewart does.. find your own.. skies the limit.. i never thought drums could be played like keith does.... it's all coming out of nothing...

[chungiemunchin]

The band you're trying to think of is called "The Head's Up Super Band". If you listen to Keith's work on people's cd's like Clay Aiken or Jane Getter, you will find him sounding more like any other drummer (still great but he's not playing stuff like on this video). In fact, I suggest that if Keith ONLY played like he does with WKT all the time, he wouldn't have made it onto Steely Dan's stuff. Like all great musicians, one must play to the music to make music.

[Monsterdrumma]

I hear what your saying but he was playing with Wayne when Donald Fagen and Walter Becker sat in and then decided to hire Keith so he got the gig while playin' very busy stuff.

[chungiemunchin]

Absolutely.................now­, imagine Keith's first day in the studio with Donald and Walter.......and Two Against Nature is called out and away he goes with the stuff he plays in WKT.............what do you think that exchange which would follow might be like?

[sweetfly66]

@ostrichfoot ... a good point you make ... I did a gig last summer with someone who went to North Texas with Keith .. he told me that Keith had fabulous chops because of drum corps but thats about it ..he had no voice on drumset ... Keith obviously developed into something extraordinary ... it is within us , we just have to find it ...good post man

[DCussen]

Dang. Just another guy I'll never be near as good as, but can listen to in amazement.

[dancazio]

oh man....this is great stuff !!...been rollin' around the idea, after seein' keith w/ steely dan in sept...of how phattback funky he's always been......now here's a killa piece of modern fusion !!!...

A very innovative nyc combo...and all humble gentlemen, for sure !!

[toohsas]

This is fckin great

[uhoh38125]

K-CONS?

[pulsating123]

oooooooooooooooooooo

[TheDrumma42]

i feel circles and more open with trad grip(triplets.). reg grip i feel more straight and linear. does that make sense? at least for me i def generate more power from reg grip and feels more comfortable to me. always trad grip with brushes though

[sweetfly66]

@TheDrumma42 definitely makes sense .... I have heard Joe Morello talk about trad VS matched and he is absolutely convinced that he can swing much harder with trad grip .... i am like you , i use trad for brushes but typically use matched grips with sticks ... then again i do not play a hell of a lot of swing ...mostly funk and rock oriented drumming

[bcwdrums]

Great playing guys....

[rrdrums110]

Yeah dude . I agree. I do play both but trad impresses me more . it's beginning to look like some artistic reference from the past. And that has everything to do w/the instant gratification fixes modern drummers crave.

[abstractlogix23]

Krantz Carlock Lefebvre, the baddest trio from New York. Get their new recording .. Some of it are what you are watching

[LowCountryAudio]

BEAST!

[4EVAFT]

what a groove7i like this!!!

[rrdrums110]

Another good drummer that uses what grip? That's right trad. No coincidence that the best players use it. Great left hand. Try it you matched grip limitors.

[SuddenlyPASTA]

How ignorant are you? Learn both. Both have pros and cons. Open your mind and learn to think beyond what everyone tells you.

[sergiobarlozzi]

mi icorda il periodo elettrico di Tony Williams (RIP)

[abstractlogix23]

The first studio recording from these three guys are coming in August 2009. This is one the best instrumental trios out there

[fess04]

i believe the guitarist is Wayne Krantz.....a real unique guy ....great sound....i dont think that is Oz Noy

[boiledrootbeer]

Yip, Wayne Krantz. Sounds like he's using a Moggerfooger.

[KRyPToNiTe1923]

wow keith has a pretty cool style but does anyone know who is the guy on the guitar cos he was playing some pretty eclectic out there stuff which makes keiths job all the more harder and kudos to him

[digimaton]

Wayne Krantz with Lefebvre on bass, it was thanks to Krantz that Carlock got the Steely Dan gig, Krantz's drummer, 6 years +, Thursday nights, the 55 Bar NYC, sadly the gig is no more.

[nadampski]

No doubt that the guys got lots of technique, but he leaves me absolutely cold. Sorry.

[bassalltheway]

nice, carlock's a beast

[storefedekussesvin]

anyone know what the name of the 'middel' cymbal is?

[torylelandkirgiss]

I think its a Zildjian K Constantinople 22" medium thin low ride. Not sure exactly, but it is a Constantinople ride.

[marchall26]

Really think what? He's got some chops.

[marchall26]

Keith is very interesting to watch play when it comes to technique. He has that crazy loose french grip type thing going with his right hand and he's choked ridiculously far back on the stick in his left. Buuut, it definitly works for him. He has some thunderous beats. I'm really digging his playing right now. I like his hi hat foot work too. He really incorporates it into the groove, as opposed to always keeing it strictly on the quarter note or the backbeat. Very tasteful.

[n0rthjunkie]

im not a hater but he sucked

[ibreathedrums]

your an idiot

[n0rthjunkie]

your an idiot

[merckk2]

Both of you are idiots for not knowing the difference between your and you're. Your is possessive, you're means you are, which is the one you were looking for.

Also, Keith is a monster.

[n0rthjunkie]

na he just sucks

[DaPhinoXX]

I completely agree with you, 100%

[BoatzNPleiadians]

thumbs up

[DrShrinker]

lol!

[DaPhinoXX]

Really? You really think that? Wow

[n0rthjunkie]

yea im more of a metel guy or somthing when it comes around with travis barker my OPINOIN SAME THINK MERKK2

[ApacheLabel]

what with his snare

[drumlinefreak13]

Other than the drums, this style of music sounds like Chick Corea

[Jakersoxas]

No way man, not a chance, totally different

The only thing which sounds similar to you about this music compared to Chick Corea's is the effect Wayne Krantz is using, the MoogerFooger Ring Modulator

[drumlinefreak13]

That's what I meant :)

[chickenpluckersson]

1.36 onwards sounded a bit like chick when he's being funny, as he often does, but it's too straight ahead for him.

[senseitre]

0:49 to 0:53 changed my life!

And thanks Doomguy

[monkeypenios]

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[Tata996]

I think you need to GET a life instead

[senseitre]

Bit grumpy there, Tata996?

Pick your battles, mate.

[senseitre]

@Tata996 A life where I need to diss people's opinions on public forums? Thanks for the tip- I'll work on it :)

[Timmyinc44]

Everyone thinks I'm weird for tipping my snare away form me, but this is just ridiculous.

[etherealeyes]

probably just because of his posture.

Im guessing the those who think youre weird dont play traditional grip? They really only need to try it for a few seconds with traditional grip to understand.

[jazzowacko]

no way anyone can play snare like that with a matched grip.Unless there doing it for fun or show.

[blueshiftmusic]

I can play matched grip with my snare like that, it's all the players preference of what's comfortable.

[chickenpluckersson]

that's not how your snare is set up though man, looked pretty flat to me.

[blueshiftmusic]

That's how it's currently set up actually. :)

[chickenpluckersson]

well, if you're a matched grip player, it aint gonna help your technique at all. But, you'll figure it out.

[blueshiftmusic]

It's all preference my friend. I practice both grips, but using my snare like that matched isn't really a problem for me. Everyone has their own way of doing things. ^_^

[chickenpluckersson]

I'm not saying it can't be done, it concerns the basic physics of hitting a drum that's most economical/comfortable while movin round the rest of the kit, you could get used to it though. The problem here is, you'd find your left hand hittin the rim of the 1st rack tom during fast fills (as a match player), or, you'd have to travel the extra distance to avoid it, which'd slow u down.

[xCrumblingMirth]

Man....i will master this style someday.

[DrShrinker]

So will I. Someday in the next life.

[chu1234]

Thoroughly amateur.  Guy needs to work on his fills.

[kage1974]

Very funny.... For those of you who don't know, there are a growing number of people deprived of attention who post absurd comments like this to intentionally provoke a response. If you go to amazon and look at reviews for the Beatles White album you'll see.... Must be nice to have that kind of time on your hands.... Next time when I get my french fries they better be hot, damn it!!!!

[chu1234]

dammit i've been ousted.

[floridacajun2]

@kage1974 Those "growing number of people deprived of attentino who post absurd comments" are known as Trolls.

[jdjbarnat]

@kage1974 this guy looks like a retarded, obese version of Elton John....

[Moog167]

DID YOU SEE THE FRIKKIN VENUE THIS DUDE WAS PLAYING IN?!?

He ain't no amateur.....His timing is flawless.....

[senseitre]

Wow, that's an amazing groove, can anyone tell me the name of it? Is it just a jam or is there a recording?

[OnTheRoof1]

that is a pretty serious angle!

[senseitre]

That's a pretty serious groove!

[blight4hire]

will someone tell me wad genre of solo is he playing? is it jazz?

[OnTheRoof1]

is sort of jazzy funky fusion, bit weird but awesome.

[Cleforo]

it's between funk/swing and free jazz

[danielhayles]

Ummmm, nothin free jazz about it dude, everything was totally in time

[Cleforo]

free jazz can totally be in time too man, and as i said, it's not free jazz, but it has a flavor of it

[blight4hire]

this drummer is fucking good

[samm1809]

he played at billy hyde in brisbane a whila ago.....man i regret not going now!!!

[EILIVdrummer]

Look at the angle of the floortoms!!!

[norfy330]

i know the guy who taugh keith at one time and my drummer at my church is good friends with kieth

[generatrix999]

Who taught Carlock how to hold the sticks? Nice technique.

Wanna talk 'short, efficient throw', look at the set-up.

[abletonreason]

Awesome! I like how he resembles a butch lesbian haha

[danlc95]

Haha, When he was on the cover of MD, he looked just like this kid I was teaching!

[SabianAHX]

lmao those are the exact words I was thinking

[lewisn27]

he has wierd angles on everything, good player though.

[mistahtut]

1:04-1:07 = awesome

[webstercat]

Whip method to the extreme, the sticks are always in constant motion. I'm sure there was not a lot of effort to produce those motions.Lot to learn in a few seconds. Good eye!

[Benm21]

does anyone know the name of the song please, i would really appreciate it if some one new thank you

[johnnyherb]

They don't really do 'songs', they are mostly long improvisations with scraps of Krantz pre-composed grooves here and there.

[doomguy132]

this is called "why" and they do do songs. a lot of it is improvisation but there is structure and form. on the outsides at least haha what happens in the middle of the song is a mystery.

[funkadelic100]

wow. could Keith be much better?

what an organic groove

[spacitydrummer4JC]

..very different style - but He's good. I think He once said that the reason He has a setup like that, Is so other people won't play It. Good Idea lol.

[MMMuller]

no he said that it is one of the advantages of it, but it was just a joke

[spacitydrummer4JC]

Oh lol. Oh well..

[lyricsP]

Check him out on Walter Becker's new album "Circus Money" Tight stuff.

[arkanoide]

i love this song... but i dont know where i can find it..please somebody help me!

[doomguy132]

hey its called "why" and if you get the modern drummer dvd from 2005 you will have it. haha he does a solo, a mini clinic, and then jams this song for like 13 minutes. its awesome. haha

[Lith3on]

nice drumming.

he does look a bit like a hardcore lesbian though.

haha

[senseitre]

@Lith3on Haha totally- but seems such a nice and humble guy in all the interviews I've seen.

[wiludall]

@Lith3on bahahaha i actually laughed out loud :)

[delliejonut]

I'm so pissed lol. Keith carlock had a clinic at UA yesterday with his band rudder and I missed out on it cause I didn't know about it. GAH YES HE IS AWESOME

[liennto]

wow. i guess his technique is the best? holy french grip!

[ocdrumboy1]

too bad they couldnt have had the modern drummer fest at the 55 bar... :) then they couldve showed em how they really rip!! except they would have to do 35 sets to ensure all the people of seeing them since the 55 is so small haha :)

[guerillaresponse]

Haha, so true. I envy you for having seen them back in the steady 55 days when they were going at it weekly. It's great that Carlock is now part of bigger artists, but goddamn, all I want to hear him play with is Krantz, Lefebvre and Anthony Jackson.

[philateliceun]

and oz noy