Poor loser viet was ruled by France over 50 years, how many battles did u lose to lose ur soverenity? And bofore that, ur name is not viet at all, u were called Indochina, meaning ur little king actually listen to China's command. Why? because ur king won the battle against China then? LOL. And now, loser is trying to change all the history with their imagination, fantasic! but useless, cause all people in the world had their 2nd grade with real history, not ur loser viet's bullshit!
Indian fears China a lot, especially NOW! China will not need to invade Indian again to teach them a lesson. All China has to do now is just build a dam on the river in the upstream as India did to Pakinstain. The more people India has, the faster they die!!! Could India invade China? Yes, but only after their meditation skill is high enough to summon an alien's mother-ship to bombard Beijing...LOL
@snowolfox U r wrong.india don't fear of China but India don't trust China becoz China is a Communist Nation.
In communism country is ruled by few communist comrade and public have no any rights to make any decision.
Communist survive on false propaganda and fear.
If there anby war between India-China that will be the death for china,as well as for India too and new nations like Tibet,East Turkistan and Inner mongolia will get freedom.
@tadorjee My Indian brothers & sisters, we Vietnamese LOVE India! We both share a common enemy, evil china, which must be wiped off the face of the Earth forever. Please help us Vietnamese by giving us the best weapons, ammunitions, technology, military intelligence, training, political help & other aid you can since Vietnam ALWAYS WIN our wars against loser china.
Helping Vietnam is India's BEST investment against loser china. They are arming Pakistan, so you should arm us. Thank you.
@LUONG4YAHWEH losers seek help from losers. Vietnam is the last territory that China ever want. China won the battle to France hundred years ago but still abandoned your hometown. Communist won the battle and reach your capital city then leave after teach you a lesson, as we did on India. Looking at Vietnam history your people can do nothing better than being a dog, such as Franch dog, US's dog, USSR's and China's dog, now your even become India's watch dog. When can this dog evolve into human?
@snowolfox Is this the best that loser china has to offer? LOL!!! Because if you're the most educated person in china, then I feel so sorry for you chinese. Go back to the 2nd grade to know that we Viets NEVER LOST a single war in our 5,000 year History while you chinese mostly LOST ALL YOUR WARS. Even the chinese gov admitted in 2009 that china LOST the 1979 War!
We Viets DEFEATED France, America, Holland, Mongolia, Manchuria & chiense losers MANY TIMES!!! LOL!!! Loser chinese are inferior.
@LUONG4YAHWEH Is this best loser that Vietnam can offer? LOL! If u r the most educated in Viet, I feel awful sorry for ur people. Chinese admit we lose the war against Jap in 1894 and Taiwan was abandoned. But we won the war against France in 1885 and caused their prime minister resigned. Ur poor Ren's Dynasty lose battles all the time and seek help from the Chinese. China abandon u cause we don't pay for ur stupidity and u were ruled by France 50 years, is this what u call never lose a war? LOL
@snowolfox Ren's Dynasty? LOL!!! Vietnam NEVER had one! LOL!!! Also, Vietnam WON against France in Dien Bien Phu! LOL!!! Go finish the 2nd grade, little kid. You're stupid like SHIT!!! LOL!!!
@LUONG4YAHWEH The goal for 1979 is the give you 2 lessons:
1. USSR does NOT able to protect their dog, Vietnam
2. Dog is not suppose to bite human
Since our goals had reached, Chinese retracted from your main cities automatically as we won the war in 1962 in India. Remember, it's retract, not retreat, look it up in your dictionary if you know how! LOL
@snowolfox LIAR!!! Loser chinese's ONLY reason for the 1979 War was: stop Vietnam from invading Cambodia & destroying your murderous ally, the evil Khmer Rouges. THIS WAS NOT MET!!! So china FAILED!
Victorious Vietnam took over all of Cambodia in JUST ONE WEEK!!! And we DESTROYED the Khmer Rouge! Loser china LOST BILLIONS of dollars in investment! Still today, Vietnam RULES Cambodia while loser china is still crying over your BIG lost in 1979. We did NOT need Russia's help because we KILLED u
@snowolfox Did you hear Pres Obama's speech in Australia in which he said that America will return to Asia & the Pacific to DESTROY loser china? LOL!!! Tiny chinese dicks are crying scared as America & the Free World will ARM & FUND Vietnam & other nations will the best weapons, ammo, training & political support to destroy evil china. Once the Peking government falls, loser china will be broken up into many smaller countries :-)
You know this more than anyone else, chinese losers. Sad :-D
@snowolfox Vietnam is loser? LOL!!! Go back to the 2nd grade to know that Vietnam ALWAYS WIN ALL OUR WARS, you ignorant piece of chinese trash while you chinese losers mostly ALWAYS LOSE ALL YOUR WARS! LOL!!!
India won against Pakistan just as Vietnam won against loser china (like always) so you should be saying "Winners seeking help from winners (Vietnam & India) while losers seeking help from losers (pakistan & loser china)" LOL!!!
After the U.S-Vietnam war someone ask the North Vietnamese Government why are you still maintaining your 2 to 3 million man army now that the war is already over? The North Vietnam's Government answer is ominously true and has become a reality. Their answer is "CHINA" is the main enemy, the U.S is a mere scratch on our backs but China is the real enemy of the new United Vietnam, it also answers the question why Russia still has thousands of nuclear warheads targeted toward China.
does China help its own people? does India? you have famines on both countries because for both countries the American way of life is foreign to their cultures their governments are not in the business of protecting their peoples but their hierarchical ranks who live in luxury at the expense of the masses who will always be poor and oppressed and victimized.
India and China might fight a war someday, but I foresee them becoming friends in the future.
Reason is that they realize the Arunachal Pradesh dispute is a vestige of British Raj imperialistic policies, just as the Partition of India was a mess and caused enmity between Pakistan and India, the British Raj policies is causing unnecessary tension between India and China.
Basically, imperialism sucks, cause problems to everyone even to this day. Hopefully, both realize it's not worth war.
@MrAppleseed88 Russia still has thousands of 50.16 megaton warheads the size of waste baskets targeted against China for Russia still remembers it's festering wounds wt China and any alliance wt them is just an alliance of convenience. Russia knows China started annexing territories from the former Soviet Republics and that is a signal of China's real agenda of world wide invasion. It is time that Americans start waking up and start the re-industrialization of their economy to deter China again
@raahulworld and you are talking because you have evidence to this accusation? if it wasn't for American grain subsidies and food stuffs help to poor nations plus billions in development help to foreign governments their civilians will starve to death. yes American agricultural surpluses feed the world who is the first to help in a emergency situation? the American people no matter where you are in the globe if you need help we will bring water,food,milk,medicine,
No offense to Indians but i dont understand how you can listen to this for long periods of time... maybe its just when you speak english but it gets annoying really fast >.<. My earsss. And good luck with dealing with china... i forsee a major conflict in the next few decades while india threatens china's new found economic superiority.
I agree with you, Although i'm an Indian, I hate our country's media because it always keeps showing negative stuff about our country, It always bashes anything that is Indian and just keeps praising foreign stuff. They multiply the problem by 100 times and show it.
India is no better than china interms of grabbing the lands that don't belong to it. There is no India-China border. The areas are called Tibet which was mutually raped by China from the front and Indian pussies from the back..
"There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism. At most there is a difference of degree but not of kind." -- Ibn Warraq, executive director of the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society
VIII.39-42: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's.
IV.76: Those who believe fight in the cause of God.
IV.74: Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward.
II.161: Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all; IX. 5-6: Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.
XVI.8: It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you (again return to disobedience). We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers.
the freeing of a believing slave (suffices), and if he is from a tribe between whom and you there is a covenant, the blood-money should be paid to his people along with the freeing of a believing slave; but he who cannot find (a slave) should fast for two months successively: a penance from Allah, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave , and blood-money should be paid to his people unless they remit it as alms; but if he be from a tribe hostile to you and he is a believer,
IV.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
IV.138: Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way.
. A classic example involves the Kuranic teaching or regulation on drinking wine, where V, 90, which has a strong statement against the practice, came to be interpreted as a prohibition, abrogating II, 219, and IV, 43, which appear to allow it"
"Rather than attempting to explain away the inconsistencies in passages giving regulations for the Muslim community, Kuran scholars and jurists came to acknowledge the differences, while arguing that the latest verse on any subject "abrogated" all earlier verses that contradicted it
now lets talk about the quran shall we ... the Quran has a peculiar doctrine of self cancellation, or "abrogation". This means that certain Quranic verses cancel out, or abrogate, other Quranic verses. Many times over a simple 23 year period, Muhammad’s "Allah" changed His mind, and changed the rules of the game. Hence what Muhammad spoke in the 15th year as the Quran may have been cancelled out by what he spoke in the 21st year.
"There is no greater good fortune for a ksatriya (Hindu) warrior than to engage in a war for killing righteousness among non-Hindus (Christians, Muslims & Sikhs, and others today). So the superiority of actions has also being praised by Him"
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 11, verse 32)
"He (lord Krishna) is terrible time the destroyer of all human beings in all worlds, engaged to destroy all beings in this world"
hahaha once again a misinterpretation ... a ksatriya is a warrior whose job is to fight and in this case fight adharma ... how can this even be referring to Muslims Sikhs Christians etc ... when they didn't even exist in the time when the Shrimad Bhagvatam was written ... hahaha .. you know its not good to be a madrasa educated illiterate ... this is how you get you ass raped on you tube ... lol
Hindu's Book GITA messages to kill all Non-Hindus (Cont)
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 11, verse 34)
"Slay all the irreligious (Dronacarya and Bhismadeva and Jayadratha and Karna also); all the other warriors bent on fighting are already slain by Me, do not be distressed, just fight and you will surely conquer your enemies in battle"
again a misinterpretation ... how can this reference refer to the killing of non Hindus when Dronacarya Bhismadeva Jayadratha and Karna were all devote Hindus .. lol . it talks about killing and fighting adharma ( evil ) ... if this meant to kill Non Hindus .. Muslims would not exist in India today .. you make an utter fool out of yourself ..
no it does not ... where is the word slavery and enslavement mentioned in the references you provided me ... Lord Krishna is simply telling Arjuna the four casts and what role karma plays in determining ones caste... how stupid your reference's are ... now lets talk about the thousands of slaves that Muslim conquers made wherever they went... where there is Islam there is destruction .. well at least the so presumed Islam ..
its ok to be jealous .... hopefully you are not too ignorant of what is going on in your own country ... you are not even close to be even considered worthy of comparison to India ... the plain fact that India has more Muslims than your entire country is a sad thing ...not only that .. peaceful patriotic Muslims....
@sonnyg121, hahhahaha be practical U emotional fool...Yes I'm aware of what's going on in my country but still we are far better than India that has huge terrorists groups in within and they always wanna play conspiracies against PAK to hide the real truth abt india...You said India has more population of muslims than PAK has...then why these muslims keep complaining abt not getting flats in mumbai?? What makes u hate muslims a lot?
hahahahaha .... u little idiot ... hahaha .. that is the biggest shit i have ever heard ... how has your country treated its minorities ... say its Hindu and Sikh minorities ... why are they all coming to India .. hmmm let me guess because your terrorist friends are killing them .. who said Muslims don't get flats in Mumbai ... that is total crap .. yes i m sure there is some discrimination involved but i know many Muslims who live in up scale flats in Mumbai ..
@sonnyg121, hahaha are u playing jokes with me? when did it happen that minorities of PAK wanted to go India? I guess U have had a dream last night..Minorities of PAK R still here and they don't wanna go anywhere...above all, we don't burn their Churches, Mandirs and houses like your Hindu Extremists did so many times...What can be more embarrassing than this that Kashmiri people carry Paki flags in the protests and shout "HINDUSTAN MURDABAD"? Kashmir is under Indian Administration though..
hahahahaha ... lol right right that is why when the Muslim invaders invaded they destroyed every mandir on their path ... you are by far the most ignorant Muslim ever... Kashmir is named after Kashab Rishi who created the land which is and was ravaged by you Muslims ... once home to over a million Hindus only a few remain due to persecution ... Kashmir is and will always be under Indian control ...
@sonnyg121, as far as the question of Muslim invaders in India, u said muslims entered India and killed so many Hindus...Do u remember the Panipath war?? Yes the Hindus lost that war and gave into the Islamic soldiers and they had to live according to the law Muslim emperors had imposed...It clearly appears that Hindus were a weaker side of that war...and lastly, Muslims have been in Kashmir for 3500 years...India has no right to claim it it's land...Kashmiri people will never give up...got it?
o.k. what does the panipat war have to do with any of this ...lol... if you are trying to say that Hindus were weak then you are truly mistaken ... don't forget the rajputs and the marathas... hahah Muslims in Kashmir 3500 years ago ... rolf.... man what do you guys learn in Pakistan ... how can Muslims exist in Kashmir if Islam itself was founded in 610 A.D, by Muhammad...lol.. Hinduism pre dates Islam by more then 5,000 years .. lol ... your ancestors were Hindu ..
@sonnyg121, The first man ever came on earth was "ADAM" and we all are his ancestors...Where was ur Hinduism at that time?? We didn't belong to Hinduism or any religion as there was no religion and only one God to follow...hahahaha Hinduism! When did it start?? Secondly If u say that you will carry on killing terrorists then you'll have to kill at least 90% of citizens becoz they have always been against Indian GOVT...U cannot stop their movement, they'll get their land back from pigs and dogs..
what b.s. lol .. Adam and Eve hahaha you are a so ignorant if you take the bible literally ... are you a creationist ? ... lol .. Hinduism or Sanathan Dharma means eternal religion ... without beginning or end ... haha Adam and Eve never existed you prick ... lol ... no one cares if they don't like the Indian government .. India is a democracy .. you have the right to do that .. unlike Pakistan ... lol
@sonnyg121, U sound like a complete jerk...Human Generation began from Adam and EVe and it's not only written in Bible but also in Quran...No one gives a shit on Hindu religion whose history is written down by Radical Hindu Idol worshipers of that time and now...Secondly, Democratic countries don't face separatism in states and atrocities followed thereafter...Kashmir will never be urs! Indian democracy is limited to good spoken words only. In reality, India is the worst place on earth...
hahaha Human generation ... u mean the human race .. lol ... you cannot just make a claim simply without proof ... the Adam and Eve story is symbolic not literal u dumdum ... you will be laughed at if you ever express this opinion of yours in public. ... lol and the Quran and Bible are written by peaceful men .. lol ... looking at History all that has ever come out of the Abrahamic religions is war and hate and intolerance ... Hinduism is the only religion that preaches tolerance
@sonnyg121, people will surely laugh at u when u tell them how tolerant and perfect ur Hinduism is...both Quran and bible were books made by God. Bible was changed by humans but nobody could change the Quran and it is still what is was before. There was a hindu Barhamin guy who always hated Islam but now he's an Islamic religious scholar and gives speeches in UK just becoz he read and understood Quran...
hahahahah ... lol you are such a joke ... if the Quran and Bible were the books of God then why especially the Quran would say things like " kill all non - believers " ... gimmmie a break .. the Christians are distancing away from you Muslims since they want to have nothing to do with your dirty politics .. you are the only ass lickers who believe that all abrahamic religions are worshiping one same God .. haha .. you ignorant .. your religion is by far the most violent ..
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
These verses are mostly open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text - as are nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur'an.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to these verse.
@shazycalm The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.
want me to keep going ? i cal fill pages with actual references from your " Holy Book " which preaches love doesn't it ... sounds like it was written by the devil as opposed to God... unless of course you worship the devil ... which i am beginning to believe might just be the case ... lol ... illiterate fool ...
@sonnyg121, U wanna send me more pages of Quran? Of course I'll be happy to receive them but send me the completed verses with meanings and explanations...and don't try to follow the Jews footsteps and find the things that can satisfy u and create confusions for other people..and remember my last message, U won't understand Quran unless u study it thoroughly..Unexplained verses can even confuse a muslim and U are non-muslim so how come u can understand when ur brain is already filled with poison
lol.. i do not need interpretations or explanations from a Muslim in name ... my friend i agree that i ... won't understand Quran unless u study it thoroughly .... and just as that won't understand the Vedas unless u study it thoroughly ... unexplained verses can even confuse a Hindu and you are a Non Hindu ...ur brain is filled with poison .. you see where i am coming from now ???
@sonnyg121, I don't give a dam on what u think and create about Islam...You have got right to say what comes in ur mind and I'll explain what I think is my duty to tell everyone...If you really think Islam is a bad religion then also give me a reason why thousands of people for the last 15 years and today have converted to Islam?? Is someone threatening them to behead or U forgot to send them Quranic versus of ur choice on time??
i don't think Islam is a bad religion ... i simply defend my faith when it is attacked ... just like you would defend Islam ... people are converting to Islam just like they are to Hinduism ... in the West Hinduism is the fastest growing religion .. Islam overall is the fastest since Muslim countries have high population growth .. and to be frank with you i have no problem with Islam growing ... as long as there is respect and understanding ...
lol ... every spiritual is an idol worshiper ... Even Islam and Christianity are big in Idol worship you ignorant fool ... hahaah the biggest bs ever ... Kashmir is India s .... right right Pakistan is a very nice place to live in isn't in
@sonnyg121, Let's see how long ur GOVT. can cope with the problems of Kashmir...The separatists movement cannot be stopped at any cost...LONG LIVE KASHMIRI PEOPLE....
haha ... right that is why there have been such a dramatic reduction of violence in Kashmir over the past 2 months .. lol .. quite frankly the Kashmir people are tired of the violence ... from both the Indian and the Pakistani side .. i'll admit to that .. i have the balls to do it unlike you ... but whoever offers them greater peace and stability will win Kashmir ... and as of now it seems to be India since the Taliban are busy blowing your cities .. lol ..
@sonnyg121, I am very happy to see that u guys have so much to know abt Quran but unfortunately U have showed me all uncompleted verses to prove ur points here...First of all, the killings and beheadings are not ordered to any muslim or non-muslim...These verses were meant to order muslims of that time who made agreements with non-muslims that no side would harm anyone...The non-muslims changed their minds and broke the agreement which means non-muslims did not want peace...(Cont)....
@shazycalm, (Cont)...This is the reason why God sent these verses to alert all the muslims of that time that now they have become ur open enemies and there are on the verge of killing and cleansing you people and ur religion that's Y u have to defend yourselves and kill them where ever u find them...and If ur enemy admits being wrong and convert to Islam, don't kill him...All these verses were sent for those people...God didn't tell us to follow them too...
hahaha your God sorry to say sounds idiotic ... lol .. but then again the Quran was written what like a couple of hundred years after Mohammed's death .. that to if one assumes the Mohammed was a prophet ... you think Hinduism has not been persecuted by Muslims and others??? but we still don't believe in forceful conversions ... why do you think that you are right and everyone else is wrong?? so if your enemies dont convert to Islam you kill them right??
um yes ... as it goes the Quran was revealed to Mohammad through a period of 22 years during which man Muslims memorized it ... The first compilation took place within two years after the Prophet passed away. Abu Bakr was the first caliph after the Prophet. ... up until this book was scatters amongst many followers .. so there is no solid evidence of the book as one ... this is why there are disagreements even amongst Muslims regarding its authenticity ..
@sonnyg121, Bete Quran was completed in the presence of Muhammad...The thing U are talking abt is the tempering of Quran which happened after the incident of "KARBALA" which divided mulims into two large parts Sunnis and Shias...U are just making mockery of yourself...and yes today Muslim communities are in disagreement with each other and Prophet Mohammad had already predicted it and said there would be more than 60 Muslim groups (which we call FIRQA)
yes now you see how annoying it gets when people talk crap when they don't know what's going on... i know the Quran was composed during Mauhamads time .. it was written down and memorized by his followers but it was not made into a book until the first caliph .. so no matter what its still not 100% authentic
@sonnyg121, Quran is 100% and the other books made/published after it are not authentic coz they were made by Humans...None of the Quranic Verse was ever changed or deleted by Muhammad or any Caliph...Yes it's annoying when people talk crap abt my religion without knowing it completely...I have had chat with so many Islam haters who talk abt Quran in their own perceptions...I challenge them to come at the conference and ask as many questions as they want but they refuse which means they R dirty
@shazycalm lol idiot why should we come to your conference idiot why dont you go to peace conference and understand why whole world have problem with your satanic religion and convert to hindu I cahllange you to convert to another religion if you are human or die satan's deathif love god then you should adore gods creation and eat cow, goat, jackass's shit and chicken droping.... well .....hmmmso much for your love for your allah
@shazycalm lol pigface princess your bitch allah converted to Hindu to get salvation first thing allah was anointed with gao mata mutter what you call cow piss now wont you follow your allah who is now hindu otherwise ho else you willget yout time with 72 virgin boys hahahahahhahaha hohohohohoho
@shazycalm lol princess weren't you there when allah was dictating quran to whoremad when he was fornicating 6 year old you wer ther holding legs of 6 year old when satanic verses were recited and diriving whoremad to rape that six year old chchchch so much for humanity you care princess shemale shadylady
@sonnyg121, and Lemme tell u I am not trying to prove that everyone is wrong and only Muslims are correct...Every religion has got something good to offer and Islam has many good things to offer...and God is merciful towards everyone not only Muslims...God promises success to all those people who make efforts regardless of any religion...this is the reason why WEST is more successful than the EAST
ah well i m glad to hear this ... the West is more successful because of their past karmas and they are only rich in material wealth not in spiritual wealth .. this is why so many in the West suffer from depression etc....the east has always been prosperous but its religions and cultures were attacked and they survived that test ... now its time for the western religions to face this challenge since atheism is no the rise....
sounds like you have a very merciful God .. or maybe he is only merciful towards Muslims and not towards man ... you have just proved what i had set out to prove to you lol ... you have just justified terrorism .. how idiotic and hypocritical .. i dont know if its you or you religion though .. but most likely i think its you ..
so its interesting if you think about it that your ancestors who were Hindus pussied out when confronted by Arabs ... lol .. you were born cowards are cowards and will remain cowards for the rest of your life .. most importantly because you don't have the balls to face the truth or to accept the fact that you are WRONG ..
@sonnyg121, (Cont)...This is the reason why God sent these verses to alert all the muslims of that time that now they have become ur open enemies and there are on the verge of killing and cleansing you people and ur religion that's Y u have to defend yourselves and kill them where ever u find them...and If ur enemy admits being wrong and convert to Islam, don't kill him...All these verses were sent for those people...God didn't tell us to follow them too...
A simple reading of such Qur'anic passages makes it obvious how easy it is for many Muslims to feel hatred and enmity against Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims. Although, many Muslims are very fond of quoting some of the more "open-minded" and "inclusive" verses of the Qur'an, one cannot ignore the weight and impact of the above passages on a devout Muslim who wants to find and obey the will of God as found in the Qur'an.
Many have claimed that Qur'anic verses in support of fighting, were for a special historical situation concerning the beginning of Islam. They argue that since prophet Muhammad, was persecuted in Mecca for the first thirteen years of his ministry, he was justified in his military actions in the last ten years of his life in Medina and for the support of the budding Islamic movement.
The problem with this reasoning is that nowhere in the Qur'an itself the above commands to fight are restricted to a special time period or against a special people group.Unlike the divine commands found in the book of Joshua in the OT, that were specific to a time, place and people group, Orthodox Muslims believe that the Qur'anic commands are universal and thus applicable for all times and places.
Unlike the divine commands found in the book of Joshua in the OT, that were specific to a time, place and people group, Orthodox Muslims believe that the Qur'anic commands are universal and thus applicable for all times and places.
A second objection that one hears is that Islam is a religion of peace and war in Islam is only for self-defense. Jamal Badawi, a popular Muslim apologist, claims, "Actual armed jihad is permissible under two conditions alone: one is for self-defense, and the other is for fighting against oppression." (cited in Diana Eck, A New Religious America, HarperSanFrancisco, 2001, p. 238)
. Although, Badawi is quite accurate in describing the conditions of armed jihad in Islam, what he fails to say is that the definitions of "self-defense" and "fighting against oppression" are much broader than usually understood.
Many Orthodox Muslims believe that if a nation's leaders do not acknowledge the rule of Islam, then those rulers are "oppressors" and thus a legitimate target for war (see John Kelsay, Islam and War, Louisville: Westminster/John Knox Press, 1993, p. 35). Many Muslims argue that America is a cultural aggressor by exporting its Hollywood values all over the world, and thus any fight against Americans is done in self-defense (see the article by Mark Galli, "Now What?
A Christian response to religious terrorism," Christianity Today, Oct 22, 2001). Therefore, there is no end to how a Muslim group can define "self-defense" and "oppression" and thus find an Islamic justification for violence.
The earliest biography of prophet Muhammad was written by Ibn Ishaq in the second century of the Islamic era and was later edited by Ibn Hisham in the third century. This work was translated into English under the title, The Life of Muhammad, by A. Guillaume and published by Oxford University Press in 1955. The following accounts are some of the sayings and actions of prophet Muhammad and his close companions found in this biography
In the constitution of Medina, whom prophet wrote when he and his followers migrated from Mecca in the year 622, we read, "A believer shall not slay a believer for the sake of an unbeliever, nor shall he aid an unbeliever against a believer ... Believers are friends one to the other to the exclusion of outsiders ... The believers must avenge the blood of one another shed in the way of God" (p. 232).
@shazycalm An old blasphemy law, which was written in 1927 during during colonial days, banned insults directed against any religion. In 1986, dictator General Zia-Ul Haw modified the law to protect only Islam. The law require a life imprisonment or a life sentence for anyone who defiled the name of Muhammad or committed other blasphemy. In 1990, a religious court ruled that the penalty for crimes under the law (Section 295-C of the country's Constitution) is execution.
@shazycalm The law states: "Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, or by inputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly defiles the sacred name of the Holy prophet Mohammed...shall be punished with death and shall be liable to a fine." The law is being used in Pakistan to discriminate against religious minorities:
@shazycalm largely Christians, and Ahmadis. Under the present law, a Muslim may blaspheme Christianity with impunity. But a Christian doing the same against Islam can theoretically be executed.
@sonnyg121, blaspheme Christianity with impunity?? hahahaha and in return Christians doing this will be punished hahahahah...when did it happen??...My one of the best friend is Christian. He never told me that before.....
@sonnyg121, Yes dear my christian friend and I went to a proper school, college and university...we were not taught by some holocaust Hindu extremists like U guys are taught...If my country is known for killing minorities across the world, then U should definitely tell me any one incident that proves that minorities were hurt in PAK hahahah another solid lie on the face...What can be worse than Gujrat, Kashmir, Khalistan, Orissa and killings of your own hindu casts Dalits?
lol ... is that where they though you the Muslims have been in Kashmir for 3,500 years.... second of all most schools in India are convent schools run by Christian churches .... so haha they possibly cannot be Hindu extremist ... and Hindus extremism exists only in response to your terrorist Muslim extremists .. besides Hinduism as history shows us is the most tolerant of all world religions ...
lol .... i just gave you an example above ... i can keep going but for the sake of not being a troll i refrain from posting the myriad of articles that circulate the internet regarding Pakistan's persecution of minorities ... lol ... what can be worse than Gujarat, Kashmir , Punjab , Orissa .. there is only one and you guessed it is Pakistan .. and fyi you know about these riots because of the efforts of the Hindu journalists who put their lives in danger to report these stories.
@sonnyg121, Yes I know the Indian journalists did a great job at exposing the Hindu Extremism and it's conspiracies regarding the horrible riots and genocide...but Indian media also concealed huge facts of Kashmir atrocities in order not to get embarrassed in front of the whole world...
Iqbal Haider, then the Law Minister, urged reform of the blasphemy law because several individuals had been falsely accused. There was a suspicion that the motivations of their accusers was to settle old scores or to intimidate others. In response, some extreme Fundamentalist Muslim leaders put a price of $40,000 on Haider's head.
@sonnyg121, I don't understand where the hell you got all this pussy information from? May be you need to do a research and grab some pure UNBIAS reports to depend on..Just name any single minority guy who has been legally or illegally executed in Pak...hahahaha believe me I couldn't stop myself laughing after reading all ur messages...India the great country after killing 600,000 minorities are blaming Pak from where no minority killing or discrimination has ever been reported...wow!
hahaha ... oh my god you are calling my information biased...lol ... your country is known for persecution and killing of minorities across the world and here you are telling me that a single minority has not been killed in Pakistan .. lol
@sonnyg121 In pakistan does not have a man like Ballthakeray or Nirender Modi or organisation like RRS ,BJP , Hindutva ,Blarangdal and Vernon Gandhi who openly profess of eliminating any one who is not a hindu.U kill minorities in large scale and UR defence is that INDIA IS A DEMOCRACY.Thats Hog wash and Holy Cow's shit.
hahahaha man should i give you a list of all the terrorist organizations active in Pakistan .... lol ... India is a secular nation and in that secularism Hinduism the majority religion is always persecuted ... that is why organization such as the RSS have risen ... i might not agree with some of their policies but i certainly feel that there is a need for them during these difficult times.... it is very dangerous for you to ignore what is going on in Pakistan ..
@sonnyg121 If India is progressing than Why 15 million women sell their body for food............Why 45 million kids has to go to work to suport their family income........Why 700 million ppls. has no toilet and shit in the street..........Hindu cannot aford to burn their dead and dump half burned bodies in the ganges river.this holy water is full of Animal and Humen remain and garbage............India has more HIV than whole of Aferican continent. LOL Indian Economy.............
lol .. progress is measured with improvement you idiot ... 5 years ago 30%of India was under the poverty line and now its 24% .. this is progress .. its not like Pakistan where you have 1 blast one day and 10 another day .. lol .. hahahaha not sure which Pakistani website you are referring to for you numbers but they are not accurate ... why are all porkis so jealous ..
this will only cause more problems .. like the recent blast at a mosque which killed 37 Muslims ... this is one of the reasons Pakistan is listed 10 on the list of failed states .. so i say stop arguing with Indians and start doing something to improve your country ...
@sonnyg121 IN UR dream pakistan a failed state........If it is so than U should be more worried cuz it will be very easy to use WMD aganist U.Indian Hindus have a complex and they R day dreaming. UR media and Politician Bark like dogs, sitting in UR master's LAP.
haha what??? here blind man read this ... and i m getting this information from BBC ... its not an Indian website unlike your biased sources ... read and learn kid ..
Pakistan moved from 34th last year to ninth in the new report - one of the sharpest changes in the overall score of any country on the list.
The contributing factors were Pakistan's inability to police the tribal areas near the Afghan border, the devastating earthquake last October in Kashmir and rising ethnic tensions, the report said.
Afghanistan, ranked 10th, faces different problems from Iraq, which despite the presence of US-led troops came fourth, the report said.
Educated exiled Afghans had been slow to go home following the ousting of the Taleban in 2001, but poor refugees had returned from Pakistan and Iran in large numbers, the study said.
"The result is a capital city busting at the seams but short of trained administrators."
The authors cite India as an example of a state which has pulled back from the brink, saying that in the 1970s analysts predicted dire consequences as a result of population growth, economic mismanagement, poverty and corruption.
Now, they say, India today has turned itself around and might have the edge over China (ranked 57) in the long run.
Pauline Baker, president of the Fund for Peace, told the Associated Press news agency that India had greater social mobility and was more decentralised than its more populous neighbour....
well hopefully this will put some sense into your mind ....
@shahjee273 here is a list of all those terrorist groups which you said dont exist in Pakistan ... Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO) Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) Tehreek-e-Jaferia Pakistan (TJP) Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi Lashkar-eJhangvi (LeJ) Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan (SMP) Jamaat-ul-Fuqra Nadeem Commando Popular Front for Armed Resistance Muslim United Army Harkat-ul-Mujahideen Al-alami(HuMA)
@sonnyg121 cont ... Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA, presently known as Harkat-ul Mujahideen) Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) Jaish-e-Mohammad Mujahideen E-Tanzeem (JeM) Harkat-ul Mujahideen (HuM, previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar) Al Badr Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM) Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ) Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami(HUJI) Muttahida Jehad Council (MJC) Al Barq Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen Al Jehad Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army People’s League Muslim Janbaz Force
@sonnyg121 cont .. Kashmir Jehad Force Al Jehad Force (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force) Al Umar Mujahideen Mahaz-e-Azadi Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen Islamic Students League Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami Muslim Mujahideen Al Mujahid Force Tehrik-e-Jehad Islami Inquilabi Mahaz
it is definitely not hog wash nor is it holy cow shit .. lol .. it is rather a fact as civilized people call it .. so grow up and do something about it ... or they will take over your country and soon you wont even be able to post comments on youtube ...
@sonnyg121 India has 13 consulate in Afghanistan. From RAW is activly supporting terrorism in Pakistan.Pakistan has the name and pictures of thoes ppls. from Afghanistan and also pictures of the same ppls.when they visit Delhi and who R the Indian govt. official ,who recive them.............
hahaha ... funny how Pakistan is the only country that has made this claim ... if you have the name and pictures then why can't we find these people ?? let me guess because they are not Indian !! lol what a joke
@sonnyg121 UR not even funny.60 yrs. ago british gave U a Country name India on a Platter after 1000 yrs of Slavery and Indian Hindu cannot handle it.Indian Hindu behave well when they R slave.
jajaja ...how stupid people can be i have found out today .. lol .. you dum dum 60 years ago you too were Indian ... lol and the British had control of India for 100 years .. not sure where you got 1000 years from ... lol ... besides the true slaves are those people in Pakistan who follow a religion they don't understand and a language they cannot speak ... go worship your arab masters .. i m sure you learned all your information from some illiterate mulla in some remote madrasa
@sonnyg121 U already started suffering from dementia.100 yrs. of British Slavery+900 yrs of Muslim ruled over India.In case UR a cow's pee drinker than the URIC Acid has affected UR memory Brain Cells. OF course U do not see humanity by worshipping LOW LIFE ( Holly Cow,Monkey ,Rats, Funny face Dolls).This is in UR benefit to revert back to Slavery.Thats how Hindus R going to be saved from Unknown.........................
hahahahaha... oh you are such a baby .. so now since you have no arguments left you revert to name calling ... lol .. well you see in Hinduism we are thought to respect the religious beliefs of others and not to insult even when scum like you balbber on without reason .. well when you return to your senses you can reply back proki boy .. till then peace out
@sonnyg121 Right from Ghandi to today's Hindu has mindset.Than how hindus reached to this mental state.There is only one conclusion, that the URIC ACID has destroyed their brain cell. "URIC ACID is integral part of animals and human URINE. For further information Log on to URIC ACID POSIONING on internet.
hahahaha .. o.k. man you can keep that attitude while Indians are bust taking over the world ... none the less your mindset is screwed up i think because you have been drinking too much Indian piss .. lol .. nonetheless don't boggle us with your mulla taught science that you learned from some madrasa .. lol ..
@sonnyg121 Yes Hindu Temple has taught U about SEX. Probably thats the reason INDIA is No:1 in Trafficking women for prositution UN REPOT......India is NO:1 in HIV and number is rising 90 people infected every hours of the day and night.....Ciz of Dowary custom in Hindus, Hindus parent R killing 3000 Baby girld per day.Thus created gender imblance, that resulted into 70 million Fagots and lesbians, hifhest in the world.....So UR killing UR self with UR Socail Evil, which only unique to hindus.
hahahaha ... what are you talking about .. you think the caste system and the system of dowry does not exist amongst Muslims !!! hahahaha .. well you should do a little research before you make such bold assertions ... you are just coming up with random crap to try and stir a debate since you have lost your previous one .. well what can i expect out of this poor madrasa educated porki brain of yours ..
Muslims donot have cast systwm as per say as hindu has it. How the brahmin treat Dalit thats a disgrace to Human diginity. I am not jumping one to another issue.I am explaining that no matter what angle look at majority Hindu,they R disgusting. Cuz Evil only produce Evils. No matter what Truth is going to prevail.There R Hindu live in Pakistan ,Bangladesh ,Malysia, Indonesia, Middle east, But U never hear that Hindu were harm cuz of their Faith, as we routinly see in India, hindus does....
hahha .. well you obviously have no clue what you are talking about .. do some research ... yes this exists in India because of corruption .. just like any other religion people take scriptures .. twist them and hence you have something that is not right ... just as in Islam you have your terrorists and in Christianity fundamentalists ... does that mean the religion is bad?? of course not .. i could easily call Islam a terrorist religion >> and you know you will disagree
@sonnyg121 U only Kn. HU, HU, Ha,Ha. and bloking UR WEb site so that no one send U the video.U do not like to see the Truth. and keep on saying He HE HA HA .Just like Hypocrate Gandhi ,outworldly preached Non.violance but asked Mountbatton to use Militry power against Pakistan.U can say what ever about UR Laws and Cositution, they R worthless piece of papers, and to decive the gulble western intectuals. A Con. game played at the highest level originating from the lowest level..UR blinded with..
Poor loser viet was ruled by France over 50 years, how many battles did u lose to lose ur soverenity? And bofore that, ur name is not viet at all, u were called Indochina, meaning ur little king actually listen to China's command. Why? because ur king won the battle against China then? LOL. And now, loser is trying to change all the history with their imagination, fantasic! but useless, cause all people in the world had their 2nd grade with real history, not ur loser viet's bullshit!
snowolfox 2 months ago
Indian fears China a lot, especially NOW! China will not need to invade Indian again to teach them a lesson. All China has to do now is just build a dam on the river in the upstream as India did to Pakinstain. The more people India has, the faster they die!!! Could India invade China? Yes, but only after their meditation skill is high enough to summon an alien's mother-ship to bombard Beijing...LOL
snowolfox 3 months ago
@snowolfox U r wrong.india don't fear of China but India don't trust China becoz China is a Communist Nation.
In communism country is ruled by few communist comrade and public have no any rights to make any decision.
Communist survive on false propaganda and fear.
If there anby war between India-China that will be the death for china,as well as for India too and new nations like Tibet,East Turkistan and Inner mongolia will get freedom.
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LuvthewayUact 3 months ago
@tadorjee My Indian brothers & sisters, we Vietnamese LOVE India! We both share a common enemy, evil china, which must be wiped off the face of the Earth forever. Please help us Vietnamese by giving us the best weapons, ammunitions, technology, military intelligence, training, political help & other aid you can since Vietnam ALWAYS WIN our wars against loser china.
Helping Vietnam is India's BEST investment against loser china. They are arming Pakistan, so you should arm us. Thank you.
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
@LUONG4YAHWEH losers seek help from losers. Vietnam is the last territory that China ever want. China won the battle to France hundred years ago but still abandoned your hometown. Communist won the battle and reach your capital city then leave after teach you a lesson, as we did on India. Looking at Vietnam history your people can do nothing better than being a dog, such as Franch dog, US's dog, USSR's and China's dog, now your even become India's watch dog. When can this dog evolve into human?
snowolfox 2 months ago
@snowolfox Is this the best that loser china has to offer? LOL!!! Because if you're the most educated person in china, then I feel so sorry for you chinese. Go back to the 2nd grade to know that we Viets NEVER LOST a single war in our 5,000 year History while you chinese mostly LOST ALL YOUR WARS. Even the chinese gov admitted in 2009 that china LOST the 1979 War!
We Viets DEFEATED France, America, Holland, Mongolia, Manchuria & chiense losers MANY TIMES!!! LOL!!! Loser chinese are inferior.
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
@LUONG4YAHWEH Is this best loser that Vietnam can offer? LOL! If u r the most educated in Viet, I feel awful sorry for ur people. Chinese admit we lose the war against Jap in 1894 and Taiwan was abandoned. But we won the war against France in 1885 and caused their prime minister resigned. Ur poor Ren's Dynasty lose battles all the time and seek help from the Chinese. China abandon u cause we don't pay for ur stupidity and u were ruled by France 50 years, is this what u call never lose a war? LOL
snowolfox 2 months ago
@snowolfox Ren's Dynasty? LOL!!! Vietnam NEVER had one! LOL!!! Also, Vietnam WON against France in Dien Bien Phu! LOL!!! Go finish the 2nd grade, little kid. You're stupid like SHIT!!! LOL!!!
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
@LUONG4YAHWEH The goal for 1979 is the give you 2 lessons:
1. USSR does NOT able to protect their dog, Vietnam
2. Dog is not suppose to bite human
Since our goals had reached, Chinese retracted from your main cities automatically as we won the war in 1962 in India. Remember, it's retract, not retreat, look it up in your dictionary if you know how! LOL
snowolfox 2 months ago
@snowolfox LIAR!!! Loser chinese's ONLY reason for the 1979 War was: stop Vietnam from invading Cambodia & destroying your murderous ally, the evil Khmer Rouges. THIS WAS NOT MET!!! So china FAILED!
Victorious Vietnam took over all of Cambodia in JUST ONE WEEK!!! And we DESTROYED the Khmer Rouge! Loser china LOST BILLIONS of dollars in investment! Still today, Vietnam RULES Cambodia while loser china is still crying over your BIG lost in 1979. We did NOT need Russia's help because we KILLED u
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
@snowolfox Did you hear Pres Obama's speech in Australia in which he said that America will return to Asia & the Pacific to DESTROY loser china? LOL!!! Tiny chinese dicks are crying scared as America & the Free World will ARM & FUND Vietnam & other nations will the best weapons, ammo, training & political support to destroy evil china. Once the Peking government falls, loser china will be broken up into many smaller countries :-)
You know this more than anyone else, chinese losers. Sad :-D
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
@snowolfox Vietnam is loser? LOL!!! Go back to the 2nd grade to know that Vietnam ALWAYS WIN ALL OUR WARS, you ignorant piece of chinese trash while you chinese losers mostly ALWAYS LOSE ALL YOUR WARS! LOL!!!
India won against Pakistan just as Vietnam won against loser china (like always) so you should be saying "Winners seeking help from winners (Vietnam & India) while losers seeking help from losers (pakistan & loser china)" LOL!!!
LUONG4YAHWEH 2 months ago
After the U.S-Vietnam war someone ask the North Vietnamese Government why are you still maintaining your 2 to 3 million man army now that the war is already over? The North Vietnam's Government answer is ominously true and has become a reality. Their answer is "CHINA" is the main enemy, the U.S is a mere scratch on our backs but China is the real enemy of the new United Vietnam, it also answers the question why Russia still has thousands of nuclear warheads targeted toward China.
darthvader5300 3 months ago
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LuvthewayUact 3 months ago
USA, RUSSIA, INDIA,VIETNAM, NATO and PHILIPPINES vs CHINA...
WE GOT 1 COMMON ENEMY..
carlogwapo1234 3 months ago
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LuvthewayUact 3 months ago
does China help its own people? does India? you have famines on both countries because for both countries the American way of life is foreign to their cultures their governments are not in the business of protecting their peoples but their hierarchical ranks who live in luxury at the expense of the masses who will always be poor and oppressed and victimized.
Vmartin70EZ 8 months ago
India and China might fight a war someday, but I foresee them becoming friends in the future.
Reason is that they realize the Arunachal Pradesh dispute is a vestige of British Raj imperialistic policies, just as the Partition of India was a mess and caused enmity between Pakistan and India, the British Raj policies is causing unnecessary tension between India and China.
Basically, imperialism sucks, cause problems to everyone even to this day. Hopefully, both realize it's not worth war.
Phead128 8 months ago
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@Phead128 my friend china and nepal taught india how to cultivate rice in ancient time. beside rice, nepal introduce millet and pigs poultry to india.
watch this documentary --> chapani le chan chan:Story of Rice-N-Millet in the Himalayas
and you realize that for without Nepal, Indians would today be eating mud.
long live china+nepal friendship
diliprai 8 months ago
we dont need china to make toys for our children we could make it right here in INDIA.
sounak505 9 months ago
Dont worry, we will make sure India will destroy china.
MrAppleseed88 10 months ago
@MrAppleseed88 Russia still has thousands of 50.16 megaton warheads the size of waste baskets targeted against China for Russia still remembers it's festering wounds wt China and any alliance wt them is just an alliance of convenience. Russia knows China started annexing territories from the former Soviet Republics and that is a signal of China's real agenda of world wide invasion. It is time that Americans start waking up and start the re-industrialization of their economy to deter China again
darthvader5300 3 months ago
india only good at answering my calls when i need tech support with my phone company...lol
Chaodragon07 11 months ago
@Chaodragon07 US is only good at killing civilans across the world
raahulworld 8 months ago
@raahulworld and you are talking because you have evidence to this accusation? if it wasn't for American grain subsidies and food stuffs help to poor nations plus billions in development help to foreign governments their civilians will starve to death. yes American agricultural surpluses feed the world who is the first to help in a emergency situation? the American people no matter where you are in the globe if you need help we will bring water,food,milk,medicine,
Vmartin70EZ 8 months ago
hitler comes again in the form of india who start war with all
Arslann2009 1 year ago 2
hold ur tounce
surjithts 1 year ago
Stupid Indians n stupid Indian Media
mrnawanshehr 1 year ago
No offense to Indians but i dont understand how you can listen to this for long periods of time... maybe its just when you speak english but it gets annoying really fast >.<. My earsss. And good luck with dealing with china... i forsee a major conflict in the next few decades while india threatens china's new found economic superiority.
tube2a 1 year ago 12
@tube2a i agree im indian the ear RAPE IS FUCKING MASSIVE
Abbadon380 2 months ago
china dont want india.. nothing there except slum dog kids
williameva 1 year ago 4
@williameva - Idoits still think india as slum dog. We are way ahead than your china. We are not copy maker and we belive in innovation.
Further india do not want china what is there you tell me?
prerak28 1 year ago
@williameva Quite the contrary, actually
butterchicken4 1 year ago
why does indian news sound like CNN + FOX multiplied by 10????
Isreal4realz 1 year ago 10
@Isreal4realz Maybe because India is US + US multiplied by 10 ?
ace41r 1 year ago
@Isreal4realz
I agree with you, Although i'm an Indian, I hate our country's media because it always keeps showing negative stuff about our country, It always bashes anything that is Indian and just keeps praising foreign stuff. They multiply the problem by 100 times and show it.
Anmol34 1 year ago 8
@Anmol34 this is better for India.....more we criticize ourselves the better we will get.....
laluprasad111 11 months ago
India is no better than china interms of grabbing the lands that don't belong to it. There is no India-China border. The areas are called Tibet which was mutually raped by China from the front and Indian pussies from the back..
MsKushh 1 year ago
@MsKushh That might be why India is ready to see tibet as a free country and help dalai llama when hes in need.
ace41r 1 year ago
We build a road you send tanks ... nice
PrometheanRunGood 1 year ago
Jai Hind
sonnyg121 1 year ago
"There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism. At most there is a difference of degree but not of kind." -- Ibn Warraq, executive director of the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society
sonnyg121 1 year ago
VIII.39-42: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
IV.76: Those who believe fight in the cause of God.
IV.74: Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
II.161: Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all; IX. 5-6: Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
XVI.8: It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you (again return to disobedience). We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
talk about slavery .. lol
sonnyg121 1 year ago
the freeing of a believing slave (suffices), and if he is from a tribe between whom and you there is a covenant, the blood-money should be paid to his people along with the freeing of a believing slave; but he who cannot find (a slave) should fast for two months successively: a penance from Allah, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave , and blood-money should be paid to his people unless they remit it as alms; but if he be from a tribe hostile to you and he is a believer,
sonnyg121 1 year ago
IV.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
IV.138: Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
. A classic example involves the Kuranic teaching or regulation on drinking wine, where V, 90, which has a strong statement against the practice, came to be interpreted as a prohibition, abrogating II, 219, and IV, 43, which appear to allow it"
sonnyg121 1 year ago
"Rather than attempting to explain away the inconsistencies in passages giving regulations for the Muslim community, Kuran scholars and jurists came to acknowledge the differences, while arguing that the latest verse on any subject "abrogated" all earlier verses that contradicted it
sonnyg121 1 year ago
now lets talk about the quran shall we ... the Quran has a peculiar doctrine of self cancellation, or "abrogation". This means that certain Quranic verses cancel out, or abrogate, other Quranic verses. Many times over a simple 23 year period, Muhammad’s "Allah" changed His mind, and changed the rules of the game. Hence what Muhammad spoke in the 15th year as the Quran may have been cancelled out by what he spoke in the 21st year.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Hindu's Book GITA messages to kill all Non-Hindus
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 2, verse 31)
"There is no greater good fortune for a ksatriya (Hindu) warrior than to engage in a war for killing righteousness among non-Hindus (Christians, Muslims & Sikhs, and others today). So the superiority of actions has also being praised by Him"
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 11, verse 32)
"He (lord Krishna) is terrible time the destroyer of all human beings in all worlds, engaged to destroy all beings in this world"
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahaha once again a misinterpretation ... a ksatriya is a warrior whose job is to fight and in this case fight adharma ... how can this even be referring to Muslims Sikhs Christians etc ... when they didn't even exist in the time when the Shrimad Bhagvatam was written ... hahaha .. you know its not good to be a madrasa educated illiterate ... this is how you get you ass raped on you tube ... lol
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Hindu's Book GITA messages to kill all Non-Hindus (Cont)
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 11, verse 34)
"Slay all the irreligious (Dronacarya and Bhismadeva and Jayadratha and Karna also); all the other warriors bent on fighting are already slain by Me, do not be distressed, just fight and you will surely conquer your enemies in battle"
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
again a misinterpretation ... how can this reference refer to the killing of non Hindus when Dronacarya Bhismadeva Jayadratha and Karna were all devote Hindus .. lol . it talks about killing and fighting adharma ( evil ) ... if this meant to kill Non Hindus .. Muslims would not exist in India today .. you make an utter fool out of yourself ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Hindu's Book GITA messages to enslave and bound low caste poor people
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 18, verse 48)
"Actions prescribed according to ones (low caste hindus) nature must not be given up, O Arjuna, even if defective"
shazycalm 1 year ago
Hindu's Book GITA messages to enslave and bound low caste poor people (Cont)
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 18, verse 41)
"Of Brahmanas, Kshtriyas and Vaishyas, as also the Sudras, O Arjuna, the duties are distributed according to the qualities born of their own nature"
(Bhagavad- Gita chapter 4, verse 13)
"The fourfold caste has been created by Me according to the differentiation of Guna and Karma"
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
no it does not ... where is the word slavery and enslavement mentioned in the references you provided me ... Lord Krishna is simply telling Arjuna the four casts and what role karma plays in determining ones caste... how stupid your reference's are ... now lets talk about the thousands of slaves that Muslim conquers made wherever they went... where there is Islam there is destruction .. well at least the so presumed Islam ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Facts about Real india:
1) 350-400 million people below poverty line
2) 30% indians still live on dollar a day
3) 47% of indian kids under 5 are malnourished
4) Half of worlds chronically hungry live there
5) An estmtd million prostitutes in india
6) World health officials calling india the nxt africa because of its spreading hiv/aids
7) Bombay generates $400 million a year in revenue just from its prostitute business
8) India has the poorest & dirtiest Railway service although it's the largest
shazycalm 1 year ago
The real face of Indian democracy:
(1) 2002 Gujrat - Huge massacre of Muslims colony, raping them and burning them alive and their homes.
(2) 2007 Orissa - Attacking on Christians, burning more than 200 Churches along with their homes.
(3) 1984 Punjab - Killing of Sikh leaders and raping their women to change their generation.
(4) 2006 Khairlanji - Humiliating Dalit untouchables, killing them and massive Rape incidents.
(5) 2010 Kashmir - Killing and torturing civilians is still going on.
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
its ok to be jealous .... hopefully you are not too ignorant of what is going on in your own country ... you are not even close to be even considered worthy of comparison to India ... the plain fact that India has more Muslims than your entire country is a sad thing ...not only that .. peaceful patriotic Muslims....
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, hahhahaha be practical U emotional fool...Yes I'm aware of what's going on in my country but still we are far better than India that has huge terrorists groups in within and they always wanna play conspiracies against PAK to hide the real truth abt india...You said India has more population of muslims than PAK has...then why these muslims keep complaining abt not getting flats in mumbai?? What makes u hate muslims a lot?
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahahahaha .... u little idiot ... hahaha .. that is the biggest shit i have ever heard ... how has your country treated its minorities ... say its Hindu and Sikh minorities ... why are they all coming to India .. hmmm let me guess because your terrorist friends are killing them .. who said Muslims don't get flats in Mumbai ... that is total crap .. yes i m sure there is some discrimination involved but i know many Muslims who live in up scale flats in Mumbai ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, hahaha are u playing jokes with me? when did it happen that minorities of PAK wanted to go India? I guess U have had a dream last night..Minorities of PAK R still here and they don't wanna go anywhere...above all, we don't burn their Churches, Mandirs and houses like your Hindu Extremists did so many times...What can be more embarrassing than this that Kashmiri people carry Paki flags in the protests and shout "HINDUSTAN MURDABAD"? Kashmir is under Indian Administration though..
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahahahaha ... lol right right that is why when the Muslim invaders invaded they destroyed every mandir on their path ... you are by far the most ignorant Muslim ever... Kashmir is named after Kashab Rishi who created the land which is and was ravaged by you Muslims ... once home to over a million Hindus only a few remain due to persecution ... Kashmir is and will always be under Indian control ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, as far as the question of Muslim invaders in India, u said muslims entered India and killed so many Hindus...Do u remember the Panipath war?? Yes the Hindus lost that war and gave into the Islamic soldiers and they had to live according to the law Muslim emperors had imposed...It clearly appears that Hindus were a weaker side of that war...and lastly, Muslims have been in Kashmir for 3500 years...India has no right to claim it it's land...Kashmiri people will never give up...got it?
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
o.k. what does the panipat war have to do with any of this ...lol... if you are trying to say that Hindus were weak then you are truly mistaken ... don't forget the rajputs and the marathas... hahah Muslims in Kashmir 3500 years ago ... rolf.... man what do you guys learn in Pakistan ... how can Muslims exist in Kashmir if Islam itself was founded in 610 A.D, by Muhammad...lol.. Hinduism pre dates Islam by more then 5,000 years .. lol ... your ancestors were Hindu ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, The first man ever came on earth was "ADAM" and we all are his ancestors...Where was ur Hinduism at that time?? We didn't belong to Hinduism or any religion as there was no religion and only one God to follow...hahahaha Hinduism! When did it start?? Secondly If u say that you will carry on killing terrorists then you'll have to kill at least 90% of citizens becoz they have always been against Indian GOVT...U cannot stop their movement, they'll get their land back from pigs and dogs..
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
what b.s. lol .. Adam and Eve hahaha you are a so ignorant if you take the bible literally ... are you a creationist ? ... lol .. Hinduism or Sanathan Dharma means eternal religion ... without beginning or end ... haha Adam and Eve never existed you prick ... lol ... no one cares if they don't like the Indian government .. India is a democracy .. you have the right to do that .. unlike Pakistan ... lol
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, U sound like a complete jerk...Human Generation began from Adam and EVe and it's not only written in Bible but also in Quran...No one gives a shit on Hindu religion whose history is written down by Radical Hindu Idol worshipers of that time and now...Secondly, Democratic countries don't face separatism in states and atrocities followed thereafter...Kashmir will never be urs! Indian democracy is limited to good spoken words only. In reality, India is the worst place on earth...
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahaha Human generation ... u mean the human race .. lol ... you cannot just make a claim simply without proof ... the Adam and Eve story is symbolic not literal u dumdum ... you will be laughed at if you ever express this opinion of yours in public. ... lol and the Quran and Bible are written by peaceful men .. lol ... looking at History all that has ever come out of the Abrahamic religions is war and hate and intolerance ... Hinduism is the only religion that preaches tolerance
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, people will surely laugh at u when u tell them how tolerant and perfect ur Hinduism is...both Quran and bible were books made by God. Bible was changed by humans but nobody could change the Quran and it is still what is was before. There was a hindu Barhamin guy who always hated Islam but now he's an Islamic religious scholar and gives speeches in UK just becoz he read and understood Quran...
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahahahah ... lol you are such a joke ... if the Quran and Bible were the books of God then why especially the Quran would say things like " kill all non - believers " ... gimmmie a break .. the Christians are distancing away from you Muslims since they want to have nothing to do with your dirty politics .. you are the only ass lickers who believe that all abrahamic religions are worshiping one same God .. haha .. you ignorant .. your religion is by far the most violent ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycal
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
These verses are mostly open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text - as are nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur'an.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to these verse.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
want me to keep going ? i cal fill pages with actual references from your " Holy Book " which preaches love doesn't it ... sounds like it was written by the devil as opposed to God... unless of course you worship the devil ... which i am beginning to believe might just be the case ... lol ... illiterate fool ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, U wanna send me more pages of Quran? Of course I'll be happy to receive them but send me the completed verses with meanings and explanations...and don't try to follow the Jews footsteps and find the things that can satisfy u and create confusions for other people..and remember my last message, U won't understand Quran unless u study it thoroughly..Unexplained verses can even confuse a muslim and U are non-muslim so how come u can understand when ur brain is already filled with poison
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
lol.. i do not need interpretations or explanations from a Muslim in name ... my friend i agree that i ... won't understand Quran unless u study it thoroughly .... and just as that won't understand the Vedas unless u study it thoroughly ... unexplained verses can even confuse a Hindu and you are a Non Hindu ...ur brain is filled with poison .. you see where i am coming from now ???
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, I don't give a dam on what u think and create about Islam...You have got right to say what comes in ur mind and I'll explain what I think is my duty to tell everyone...If you really think Islam is a bad religion then also give me a reason why thousands of people for the last 15 years and today have converted to Islam?? Is someone threatening them to behead or U forgot to send them Quranic versus of ur choice on time??
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
i don't think Islam is a bad religion ... i simply defend my faith when it is attacked ... just like you would defend Islam ... people are converting to Islam just like they are to Hinduism ... in the West Hinduism is the fastest growing religion .. Islam overall is the fastest since Muslim countries have high population growth .. and to be frank with you i have no problem with Islam growing ... as long as there is respect and understanding ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
lol ... every spiritual is an idol worshiper ... Even Islam and Christianity are big in Idol worship you ignorant fool ... hahaah the biggest bs ever ... Kashmir is India s .... right right Pakistan is a very nice place to live in isn't in
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, Let's see how long ur GOVT. can cope with the problems of Kashmir...The separatists movement cannot be stopped at any cost...LONG LIVE KASHMIRI PEOPLE....
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
haha ... right that is why there have been such a dramatic reduction of violence in Kashmir over the past 2 months .. lol .. quite frankly the Kashmir people are tired of the violence ... from both the Indian and the Pakistani side .. i'll admit to that .. i have the balls to do it unlike you ... but whoever offers them greater peace and stability will win Kashmir ... and as of now it seems to be India since the Taliban are busy blowing your cities .. lol ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, I am very happy to see that u guys have so much to know abt Quran but unfortunately U have showed me all uncompleted verses to prove ur points here...First of all, the killings and beheadings are not ordered to any muslim or non-muslim...These verses were meant to order muslims of that time who made agreements with non-muslims that no side would harm anyone...The non-muslims changed their minds and broke the agreement which means non-muslims did not want peace...(Cont)....
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm, (Cont)...This is the reason why God sent these verses to alert all the muslims of that time that now they have become ur open enemies and there are on the verge of killing and cleansing you people and ur religion that's Y u have to defend yourselves and kill them where ever u find them...and If ur enemy admits being wrong and convert to Islam, don't kill him...All these verses were sent for those people...God didn't tell us to follow them too...
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahaha your God sorry to say sounds idiotic ... lol .. but then again the Quran was written what like a couple of hundred years after Mohammed's death .. that to if one assumes the Mohammed was a prophet ... you think Hinduism has not been persecuted by Muslims and others??? but we still don't believe in forceful conversions ... why do you think that you are right and everyone else is wrong?? so if your enemies dont convert to Islam you kill them right??
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, WTF are u talking abt?? The Quran was written after Muhammad's death?? Who said this? What exactly do u wanna know?
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
um yes ... as it goes the Quran was revealed to Mohammad through a period of 22 years during which man Muslims memorized it ... The first compilation took place within two years after the Prophet passed away. Abu Bakr was the first caliph after the Prophet. ... up until this book was scatters amongst many followers .. so there is no solid evidence of the book as one ... this is why there are disagreements even amongst Muslims regarding its authenticity ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, Bete Quran was completed in the presence of Muhammad...The thing U are talking abt is the tempering of Quran which happened after the incident of "KARBALA" which divided mulims into two large parts Sunnis and Shias...U are just making mockery of yourself...and yes today Muslim communities are in disagreement with each other and Prophet Mohammad had already predicted it and said there would be more than 60 Muslim groups (which we call FIRQA)
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
yes now you see how annoying it gets when people talk crap when they don't know what's going on... i know the Quran was composed during Mauhamads time .. it was written down and memorized by his followers but it was not made into a book until the first caliph .. so no matter what its still not 100% authentic
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, Quran is 100% and the other books made/published after it are not authentic coz they were made by Humans...None of the Quranic Verse was ever changed or deleted by Muhammad or any Caliph...Yes it's annoying when people talk crap abt my religion without knowing it completely...I have had chat with so many Islam haters who talk abt Quran in their own perceptions...I challenge them to come at the conference and ask as many questions as they want but they refuse which means they R dirty
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm lol idiot why should we come to your conference idiot why dont you go to peace conference and understand why whole world have problem with your satanic religion and convert to hindu I cahllange you to convert to another religion if you are human or die satan's deathif love god then you should adore gods creation and eat cow, goat, jackass's shit and chicken droping.... well .....hmmmso much for your love for your allah
MsAllah666 1 year ago
@MsAllah666, Fuck U piece of Shit...I won't convert to Shit religions U are asking me to join U motherfucker
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm lol pigface princess your bitch allah converted to Hindu to get salvation first thing allah was anointed with gao mata mutter what you call cow piss now wont you follow your allah who is now hindu otherwise ho else you willget yout time with 72 virgin boys hahahahahhahaha hohohohohoho
MsAllah666 1 year ago
@shazycalm lol princess weren't you there when allah was dictating quran to whoremad when he was fornicating 6 year old you wer ther holding legs of 6 year old when satanic verses were recited and diriving whoremad to rape that six year old chchchch so much for humanity you care princess shemale shadylady
MsAllah666 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, and Lemme tell u I am not trying to prove that everyone is wrong and only Muslims are correct...Every religion has got something good to offer and Islam has many good things to offer...and God is merciful towards everyone not only Muslims...God promises success to all those people who make efforts regardless of any religion...this is the reason why WEST is more successful than the EAST
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
ah well i m glad to hear this ... the West is more successful because of their past karmas and they are only rich in material wealth not in spiritual wealth .. this is why so many in the West suffer from depression etc....the east has always been prosperous but its religions and cultures were attacked and they survived that test ... now its time for the western religions to face this challenge since atheism is no the rise....
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
sounds like you have a very merciful God .. or maybe he is only merciful towards Muslims and not towards man ... you have just proved what i had set out to prove to you lol ... you have just justified terrorism .. how idiotic and hypocritical .. i dont know if its you or you religion though .. but most likely i think its you ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121
so its interesting if you think about it that your ancestors who were Hindus pussied out when confronted by Arabs ... lol .. you were born cowards are cowards and will remain cowards for the rest of your life .. most importantly because you don't have the balls to face the truth or to accept the fact that you are WRONG ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, (Cont)...This is the reason why God sent these verses to alert all the muslims of that time that now they have become ur open enemies and there are on the verge of killing and cleansing you people and ur religion that's Y u have to defend yourselves and kill them where ever u find them...and If ur enemy admits being wrong and convert to Islam, don't kill him...All these verses were sent for those people...God didn't tell us to follow them too...
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
A simple reading of such Qur'anic passages makes it obvious how easy it is for many Muslims to feel hatred and enmity against Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims. Although, many Muslims are very fond of quoting some of the more "open-minded" and "inclusive" verses of the Qur'an, one cannot ignore the weight and impact of the above passages on a devout Muslim who wants to find and obey the will of God as found in the Qur'an.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
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sonnyg121 1 year ago
Many have claimed that Qur'anic verses in support of fighting, were for a special historical situation concerning the beginning of Islam. They argue that since prophet Muhammad, was persecuted in Mecca for the first thirteen years of his ministry, he was justified in his military actions in the last ten years of his life in Medina and for the support of the budding Islamic movement.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
The problem with this reasoning is that nowhere in the Qur'an itself the above commands to fight are restricted to a special time period or against a special people group.Unlike the divine commands found in the book of Joshua in the OT, that were specific to a time, place and people group, Orthodox Muslims believe that the Qur'anic commands are universal and thus applicable for all times and places.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Unlike the divine commands found in the book of Joshua in the OT, that were specific to a time, place and people group, Orthodox Muslims believe that the Qur'anic commands are universal and thus applicable for all times and places.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
A second objection that one hears is that Islam is a religion of peace and war in Islam is only for self-defense. Jamal Badawi, a popular Muslim apologist, claims, "Actual armed jihad is permissible under two conditions alone: one is for self-defense, and the other is for fighting against oppression." (cited in Diana Eck, A New Religious America, HarperSanFrancisco, 2001, p. 238)
sonnyg121 1 year ago
. Although, Badawi is quite accurate in describing the conditions of armed jihad in Islam, what he fails to say is that the definitions of "self-defense" and "fighting against oppression" are much broader than usually understood.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Many Orthodox Muslims believe that if a nation's leaders do not acknowledge the rule of Islam, then those rulers are "oppressors" and thus a legitimate target for war (see John Kelsay, Islam and War, Louisville: Westminster/John Knox Press, 1993, p. 35). Many Muslims argue that America is a cultural aggressor by exporting its Hollywood values all over the world, and thus any fight against Americans is done in self-defense (see the article by Mark Galli, "Now What?
sonnyg121 1 year ago
A Christian response to religious terrorism," Christianity Today, Oct 22, 2001). Therefore, there is no end to how a Muslim group can define "self-defense" and "oppression" and thus find an Islamic justification for violence.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
The earliest biography of prophet Muhammad was written by Ibn Ishaq in the second century of the Islamic era and was later edited by Ibn Hisham in the third century. This work was translated into English under the title, The Life of Muhammad, by A. Guillaume and published by Oxford University Press in 1955. The following accounts are some of the sayings and actions of prophet Muhammad and his close companions found in this biography
sonnyg121 1 year ago
In the constitution of Medina, whom prophet wrote when he and his followers migrated from Mecca in the year 622, we read, "A believer shall not slay a believer for the sake of an unbeliever, nor shall he aid an unbeliever against a believer ... Believers are friends one to the other to the exclusion of outsiders ... The believers must avenge the blood of one another shed in the way of God" (p. 232).
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm yea long live kashmiri ppl those are kashmiri pandits not intruders from porkistan ...aisan faramosh !!
idioticstuff 1 year ago
@idioticstuff, What do u mean?
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
keep dreaming .... Kashmir is India's .. we will keep killing your terrorist friends till they are wiped out ....
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm An old blasphemy law, which was written in 1927 during during colonial days, banned insults directed against any religion. In 1986, dictator General Zia-Ul Haw modified the law to protect only Islam. The law require a life imprisonment or a life sentence for anyone who defiled the name of Muhammad or committed other blasphemy. In 1990, a religious court ruled that the penalty for crimes under the law (Section 295-C of the country's Constitution) is execution.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm The law states: "Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, or by inputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly defiles the sacred name of the Holy prophet Mohammed...shall be punished with death and shall be liable to a fine." The law is being used in Pakistan to discriminate against religious minorities:
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm largely Christians, and Ahmadis. Under the present law, a Muslim may blaspheme Christianity with impunity. But a Christian doing the same against Islam can theoretically be executed.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, blaspheme Christianity with impunity?? hahahaha and in return Christians doing this will be punished hahahahah...when did it happen??...My one of the best friend is Christian. He never told me that before.....
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahaha ... well then you and your Christan friend need to go to School ( not a madrasa ) a proper school ..lol
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, Yes dear my christian friend and I went to a proper school, college and university...we were not taught by some holocaust Hindu extremists like U guys are taught...If my country is known for killing minorities across the world, then U should definitely tell me any one incident that proves that minorities were hurt in PAK hahahah another solid lie on the face...What can be worse than Gujrat, Kashmir, Khalistan, Orissa and killings of your own hindu casts Dalits?
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
lol ... is that where they though you the Muslims have been in Kashmir for 3,500 years.... second of all most schools in India are convent schools run by Christian churches .... so haha they possibly cannot be Hindu extremist ... and Hindus extremism exists only in response to your terrorist Muslim extremists .. besides Hinduism as history shows us is the most tolerant of all world religions ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
lol .... i just gave you an example above ... i can keep going but for the sake of not being a troll i refrain from posting the myriad of articles that circulate the internet regarding Pakistan's persecution of minorities ... lol ... what can be worse than Gujarat, Kashmir , Punjab , Orissa .. there is only one and you guessed it is Pakistan .. and fyi you know about these riots because of the efforts of the Hindu journalists who put their lives in danger to report these stories.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, Yes I know the Indian journalists did a great job at exposing the Hindu Extremism and it's conspiracies regarding the horrible riots and genocide...but Indian media also concealed huge facts of Kashmir atrocities in order not to get embarrassed in front of the whole world...
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
lol ... the Pakistani media does not even do this much ... you history is a history of oppression .. which is heavily influenced by your religion ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
Iqbal Haider, then the Law Minister, urged reform of the blasphemy law because several individuals had been falsely accused. There was a suspicion that the motivations of their accusers was to settle old scores or to intimidate others. In response, some extreme Fundamentalist Muslim leaders put a price of $40,000 on Haider's head.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shazycalm
right right minorities are not persecuted in Pakistan ...lol you illiterate fool ... do some research ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121, I don't understand where the hell you got all this pussy information from? May be you need to do a research and grab some pure UNBIAS reports to depend on..Just name any single minority guy who has been legally or illegally executed in Pak...hahahaha believe me I couldn't stop myself laughing after reading all ur messages...India the great country after killing 600,000 minorities are blaming Pak from where no minority killing or discrimination has ever been reported...wow!
shazycalm 1 year ago
@shazycalm
hahaha ... oh my god you are calling my information biased...lol ... your country is known for persecution and killing of minorities across the world and here you are telling me that a single minority has not been killed in Pakistan .. lol
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 In pakistan does not have a man like Ballthakeray or Nirender Modi or organisation like RRS ,BJP , Hindutva ,Blarangdal and Vernon Gandhi who openly profess of eliminating any one who is not a hindu.U kill minorities in large scale and UR defence is that INDIA IS A DEMOCRACY.Thats Hog wash and Holy Cow's shit.
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahahaha man should i give you a list of all the terrorist organizations active in Pakistan .... lol ... India is a secular nation and in that secularism Hinduism the majority religion is always persecuted ... that is why organization such as the RSS have risen ... i might not agree with some of their policies but i certainly feel that there is a need for them during these difficult times.... it is very dangerous for you to ignore what is going on in Pakistan ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 If India is progressing than Why 15 million women sell their body for food............Why 45 million kids has to go to work to suport their family income........Why 700 million ppls. has no toilet and shit in the street..........Hindu cannot aford to burn their dead and dump half burned bodies in the ganges river.this holy water is full of Animal and Humen remain and garbage............India has more HIV than whole of Aferican continent. LOL Indian Economy.............
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
lol .. progress is measured with improvement you idiot ... 5 years ago 30%of India was under the poverty line and now its 24% .. this is progress .. its not like Pakistan where you have 1 blast one day and 10 another day .. lol .. hahahaha not sure which Pakistani website you are referring to for you numbers but they are not accurate ... why are all porkis so jealous ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
this will only cause more problems .. like the recent blast at a mosque which killed 37 Muslims ... this is one of the reasons Pakistan is listed 10 on the list of failed states .. so i say stop arguing with Indians and start doing something to improve your country ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 IN UR dream pakistan a failed state........If it is so than U should be more worried cuz it will be very easy to use WMD aganist U.Indian Hindus have a complex and they R day dreaming. UR media and Politician Bark like dogs, sitting in UR master's LAP.
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
haha what??? here blind man read this ... and i m getting this information from BBC ... its not an Indian website unlike your biased sources ... read and learn kid ..
Pakistan moved from 34th last year to ninth in the new report - one of the sharpest changes in the overall score of any country on the list.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
The contributing factors were Pakistan's inability to police the tribal areas near the Afghan border, the devastating earthquake last October in Kashmir and rising ethnic tensions, the report said.
Afghanistan, ranked 10th, faces different problems from Iraq, which despite the presence of US-led troops came fourth, the report said.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
Educated exiled Afghans had been slow to go home following the ousting of the Taleban in 2001, but poor refugees had returned from Pakistan and Iran in large numbers, the study said.
"The result is a capital city busting at the seams but short of trained administrators."
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
The authors cite India as an example of a state which has pulled back from the brink, saying that in the 1970s analysts predicted dire consequences as a result of population growth, economic mismanagement, poverty and corruption.
Now, they say, India today has turned itself around and might have the edge over China (ranked 57) in the long run.
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
Pauline Baker, president of the Fund for Peace, told the Associated Press news agency that India had greater social mobility and was more decentralised than its more populous neighbour....
well hopefully this will put some sense into your mind ....
sonnyg121 1 year ago
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@sonnyg121
cont ...
Al-Rashid Trust
Al-Akhtar Trust
Rabita Trust
Ummah Tamir-e-Nau
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@shahjee273
it is definitely not hog wash nor is it holy cow shit .. lol .. it is rather a fact as civilized people call it .. so grow up and do something about it ... or they will take over your country and soon you wont even be able to post comments on youtube ...
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 India has 13 consulate in Afghanistan. From RAW is activly supporting terrorism in Pakistan.Pakistan has the name and pictures of thoes ppls. from Afghanistan and also pictures of the same ppls.when they visit Delhi and who R the Indian govt. official ,who recive them.............
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahaha ... funny how Pakistan is the only country that has made this claim ... if you have the name and pictures then why can't we find these people ?? let me guess because they are not Indian !! lol what a joke
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 UR not even funny.60 yrs. ago british gave U a Country name India on a Platter after 1000 yrs of Slavery and Indian Hindu cannot handle it.Indian Hindu behave well when they R slave.
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
jajaja ...how stupid people can be i have found out today .. lol .. you dum dum 60 years ago you too were Indian ... lol and the British had control of India for 100 years .. not sure where you got 1000 years from ... lol ... besides the true slaves are those people in Pakistan who follow a religion they don't understand and a language they cannot speak ... go worship your arab masters .. i m sure you learned all your information from some illiterate mulla in some remote madrasa
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 U already started suffering from dementia.100 yrs. of British Slavery+900 yrs of Muslim ruled over India.In case UR a cow's pee drinker than the URIC Acid has affected UR memory Brain Cells. OF course U do not see humanity by worshipping LOW LIFE ( Holly Cow,Monkey ,Rats, Funny face Dolls).This is in UR benefit to revert back to Slavery.Thats how Hindus R going to be saved from Unknown.........................
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahahahaha... oh you are such a baby .. so now since you have no arguments left you revert to name calling ... lol .. well you see in Hinduism we are thought to respect the religious beliefs of others and not to insult even when scum like you balbber on without reason .. well when you return to your senses you can reply back proki boy .. till then peace out
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 Right from Ghandi to today's Hindu has mindset.Than how hindus reached to this mental state.There is only one conclusion, that the URIC ACID has destroyed their brain cell. "URIC ACID is integral part of animals and human URINE. For further information Log on to URIC ACID POSIONING on internet.
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahahaha .. o.k. man you can keep that attitude while Indians are bust taking over the world ... none the less your mindset is screwed up i think because you have been drinking too much Indian piss .. lol .. nonetheless don't boggle us with your mulla taught science that you learned from some madrasa .. lol ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 Yes Hindu Temple has taught U about SEX. Probably thats the reason INDIA is No:1 in Trafficking women for prositution UN REPOT......India is NO:1 in HIV and number is rising 90 people infected every hours of the day and night.....Ciz of Dowary custom in Hindus, Hindus parent R killing 3000 Baby girld per day.Thus created gender imblance, that resulted into 70 million Fagots and lesbians, hifhest in the world.....So UR killing UR self with UR Socail Evil, which only unique to hindus.
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahahaha ... what are you talking about .. you think the caste system and the system of dowry does not exist amongst Muslims !!! hahahaha .. well you should do a little research before you make such bold assertions ... you are just coming up with random crap to try and stir a debate since you have lost your previous one .. well what can i expect out of this poor madrasa educated porki brain of yours ..
sonnyg121 1 year ago
Muslims donot have cast systwm as per say as hindu has it. How the brahmin treat Dalit thats a disgrace to Human diginity. I am not jumping one to another issue.I am explaining that no matter what angle look at majority Hindu,they R disgusting. Cuz Evil only produce Evils. No matter what Truth is going to prevail.There R Hindu live in Pakistan ,Bangladesh ,Malysia, Indonesia, Middle east, But U never hear that Hindu were harm cuz of their Faith, as we routinly see in India, hindus does....
shahjee273 1 year ago
@shahjee273
hahha .. well you obviously have no clue what you are talking about .. do some research ... yes this exists in India because of corruption .. just like any other religion people take scriptures .. twist them and hence you have something that is not right ... just as in Islam you have your terrorists and in Christianity fundamentalists ... does that mean the religion is bad?? of course not .. i could easily call Islam a terrorist religion >> and you know you will disagree
sonnyg121 1 year ago
@sonnyg121 U only Kn. HU, HU, Ha,Ha. and bloking UR WEb site so that no one send U the video.U do not like to see the Truth. and keep on saying He HE HA HA .Just like Hypocrate Gandhi ,outworldly preached Non.violance but asked Mountbatton to use Militry power against Pakistan.U can say what ever about UR Laws and Cositution, they R worthless piece of papers, and to decive the gulble western intectuals. A Con. game played at the highest level originating from the lowest level..UR blinded with..
shahjee273 1 year ago