Look, I actually have some Han Chinese blood and for a piece of shit Manchu like you to even consider yourself Chinese is a something unacceptable! It's pretty much a guarantee that your face will be beaten beyond recognition!!
@ComradeMing "Dream about Korea reunification"? Looks like it's about to happen now for Korea. Taiwan on the other hand....Not so much. And to make sure that Taiwan doesn't fall into China's hands, SK will arm them to their teeth; think I'm kidding? And as for Manchus, I think the Manchus were gunning down Pig Tailed China man the last time Manchuria was liberated (see Jap).
@coolLife1500 Manchus didn't live in Manchuria at that time retard. Most already resided in the mainland. Only Puyi defected because he wanted to be Emperor again. Manchukuo didnt do shit. Manchus arent stupid. They lost to Japs in the 1st war and they saw it as a disgrace. You make Manchus seem like a bunch of wimps. Just stfu kimchi shithead you dont belong with us 8 banners mother fucker. We stole Korean women under Qing.I am half Mongol dumbass. Trinity of Qing under 8, Manchu-Mongol-Han.
@DragonOfQin PFFFF as a Han Chinese, pieces of fuck like the Mongolians and and the Manchu do not deserve any fucking rights in China!! I still till this day do not understand why China has not committed genocide against the Manchu's. Look If I had the chance, I would beat the life out of every single Manchu man, woman, and child!!
@coolLife1500 dream about Kimchi reunification. I was bursting with joy wen Kim Un told SK to fuck off. PS: Taiwan SK relations had been going downhill since SK opened up with PRC. "I think Manchus..." You don't think gook you do what your Manchu master tells you what to do. Remember Samjeondo Monument? I went 2 Korea and I visited it. That should be a UNESCO site. LOL!
Korean /Sillan are descendants of Old Tungus separated more than 10,000 or 12,000 years ago if they say they are Tungus. They are related to the Manchus only in this aspect.
Koreans should say they are brothers of the Japanese which is more likely.
@ghoststrider45 Hey retard most Manchus live in China so what the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing to split nothing to divide. Manchu will gun your gook ass down if you try to invade China. China is a concept invented by Manchu afterall. 1 nation united people Qing Dynasty.
@DragonOfQin Dream You piece of shit, and if you are a Manchu you yourself a fucking gook!!! God, i hope you read this and decide to end your life right now! Manchus are not CHINESE!!! They need to fuck off and quit steeling CHINESE CULTURE!!
@DragonOfQin Koreans never claimed to be Chinese. The Manchu's were posers who wanted to be fucking Chinese!! GOD I HATE THEM SO MUCH YOU AND ALL THE MANCHUS NEED TO GET OUT OF CHINA!!!
@DragonOfQin All Koreans I know, never claimed to be Manchus! I'm sorry, if you are a Manchu, you need to leave China before I come and exterminate all of you with my bare hands!!
@Shovelheaded666 What the fuck? I bet you're Korean! Koreans know alot about Manchu. Look up Korean Manchu. They keep saying they are related to Manchu you retard. You a fucking kimchi gook imposter.
@DragonOfQin Wow I find it hysterical that a low degenerate like you decides to conjure up the notion that I'm Korean (I'm not) just because I state that the Manchu people are not Chinese. And by the way, you are only demeaning yourself with the use of the word "gook" as it implies all Asians! Anyways, I still support with all my heart the idea of the Han Chinese systematically massacring all ethnic Manchu's from Inner China!
@Shovelheaded666 erm just to let you know since i'm a chinese, han chinese is not really an ethnicity or race, it was categorized as such because of the same beliefs and similarity in culture.
many han chinese you know today have many origins from the manchus and mongols, some don't even know it themselves. (and i don't mean by rape and massacare, they just blended in)
i know that teochew and hakkas have very distinct chinese culture from typical han, but they are labeled han chinese anyway.
@Shovelheaded666 before the occupation of beijing, ALL manchurians were forced to wear the same clothes and queu.
and if you dont know, manchurians during ming dynasty was an autonomous allied state of ming. culturally they are also quite similar to chinese, the way they dress used to be the same as chinese tho.
after occupation of china proper, manchu identity, became a military caste system under the 8 banners. by that they can't participate in trade as the normal han chinese do.
@Shovelheaded666 manchus were not being exterminated by chinese, but by Japanese colony manchukuo. where emperor puyi in his desperate situation, just sign any laws forwarded to him.
today, china is helping the manchus to revive the manchu language, sadly most young generation manchus aren't that interested.
ironically many manchu speakers are han chinese professors today.
i remember when manchukuo fall, many colony children from japan was abandoned in china. the biological parents just fled...
@Shovelheaded666 manchus are practically chinese, i don't see why you should hate them, honestly, mongols and manchus were supposed to be one of us, until colonialist came.
i can tell you, under western influences, many chinese were shocked to hear that, manchus were not chinese, even some manchus themselves, when europe came riling up china.
just to let you know that many han chinese also held very high governmental positions at the time. whom also oppose modernization in qing dynasty..
@tdzheng I appreciate you for giving a some insight, but you must remember, the reason the Qing dynasty was resented by the majority of China was because they were ruled over by a foreign power. You can't deny history. By the way, I do not consider the Theo Chow to be Chinese in anyway
@Shovelheaded666 oh really? i'm teo chew btw. my great great grandfather used to be a minister in chaoshan.
my great grandfather died from opium when he was young, and my grandfather ended up in malaysia due to civil wars at that period.
maybe a lot of of chinese in china today say that qing is a foreign is a foreign ruler due to propaganda, but not for migrated chinese in that period, whom also supported sun yat sen financially.
whom stayed in penang before 1911 of qinghai revolution.
@Shovelheaded666 teo chew is an old people dated back from tang dynasty.
we had more claim of old han chinese more than you think, language wise we sill have roughly half of old surviving vocabulary. listed in unesco, so does having the oldest form of chinese opera.
our original homeland were from/around chang'an/xian today. migrated south due to "civil" wars. and called chinese jews sing we don't really have a permanent home.
many old ppl still call them selves t'ng nang, translated tang ppl.
@Shovelheaded666 ppl mistaken teochew for minnan since some notable ppl like taksin the great, king of thonburi kingdom 1734-1782, were of teochew origin. and yes, some words are similar to thai language.
but we're still chinese though, if that's what you're asking. there is still many teochew on chaoshan today. though slang may differ due to mandarin influences.
if we're chinese why can't manchu's be chinese, they're practically the same ppl if you look at them.
@tdzheng Sorry to respond so late. Once again, thanks for the insight about the Chinese nation as a whole. I guess my conception of Teochew has some what changed after the information you've provided me. I accept the manchu and any other ethnic group in China to be of Chinese nationality, but as part of the han ethnic.....well i'm still a still a little shakey about that
and yeah manchu and han can be quite complicated though, but they were once not han, or should i say an distinct ethnic group. with their own culture and language.
but i can hardly say for now, after long period of rule, communism and the cultural revolution, many manchus of stature hid their identity in fear of persecution.
even today's "manchurians" are not 100% manchus. some han chinese declare themselves manchu to avoid 1 child policy.
@Shovelheaded666 i you wanna find real existing manchus, you should go to taiwan.
some of the turncoat warlords joined the kuomintang after the abdication of qing dynasty.
other than that is south east asia like malaysia, thailand ect. though in SEA most of manchu's descendants there already blended in into other dominent chinese culture there(hakka,teochew,canto,hainan).
han ethnic by its self comprised of, also many ethnic groups. as i say again, each place have their own distinct culture
@Thak11 never heard of that book yet, will look up to it, from what i know is koreans usually don't like inter-breeding in those days, let alone "barbarian" tribes up north.
and were rather objecting when the manchus took beijing. claiming to be the inheritor of old confucian culture
usually manchus were more to the amur river, get me a credible source to prove me wrong or else doesn't prove your point.
Explain it to me right now because it's my first time hearing this when I studied my own culture. Yes, MANCHU culture. Mandate of heaven is just a concept, neither the Qing official records shows this which is funny.
@ghoststrider45 earlier you say you're korean and now you say you're manchu?!
god damn.. hell you even claim goguryo was south koreans? when most south koreans came from silla, gaya, and baekje, goguryo haven't even come to your map at all.
and you have no concept of what ritual is, it's not a "concept" it's a religion!
@ghoststrider45 Gookrider are you talking shit? Qianlong wrote to King George describing English religion of Christianity as barbaric and said that Qing was not willing to adopt Christianity because Qing used a mandate of heaven and earth as their religion which had lasted for thousands of years. Stay out of Chinese history and stick to your gook history. Suck Nippon dick while your doing that. ROFL!!! "Manchu dont identify themself with dogs" from my Manchu friend aka Batarusha.
@Thak11 erm the manchus homeland is in manchuria, and if i remember correctly, the manchus were quite hostile towards joseon dynasty, raiding their borders.
that was before qing dynasty was established anyway.
@ghoststrider45 i did not steal history, why not just go to manchuria and ask the manchus about your historical "fact"? and see how they feel about it?
the mandate of heaven was quite real to them, they even do the rituals. as does every chinese emperor.
heck they were even more superticious and conservative then the chinese themselves.
yeah they did took over those said places, yet they still proclaimed themselves as chinese of the middle kingdom, go read historical facts, not korean claims.
Ghostrider has this delusion that Korea was "free" from foreign domination, and talks about their Altaic brother's achievements, and even goes as far as saying: "Manchu = Korean" therefore, Koreans conquered China. Talk about having zero self-esteem, inferiority complex of Korean people. LOL! He says Korea will take back Manchuria. I probably think China will annex North Korea or at the very least be the sole reigning regional hegemon that will dictate terms of Korean reunificatio
Jin, Balhae, Goguryeo, Gojoseon, etc. are ALL Korean, I never assumed we conquered China, you dumbass. China WAS always conquered by foreign people whether you like or hate the thought. LOL China will never annex NK, NK has one of the largest militaries in world, dumbfuck. You think you can go right in and say hello? hahahahhaha
If Chinese invented printing, why are the oldest printing materials originated from Korea? China like the historian above was always conquered by foreigners, hence Koreans always laugh at Chinks. hahahahhahahahahhahahahahha
Oldext extant bounded book means Korea's metal printing press was the oldest to do mass printing, but the oldest extant printed material is China's wooden printing press.
@ghoststrider45 about mongol conquering jin dynasty, were actually aided by song armies(then allied) against jin, mongol warfare at d time do not have the capability of siege warfare nor does heavy weaponries. mongols did not really get into world power until jin dynasty fell(when most northern chinese join mongol ranks).
until then jin dynasty did overpower the mongols until they faced two pronged invasions on both north and south(mongol-song alliance).
@ghoststrider45 and regarding manchus, they were let in by the emperors general, when the whole imperial family committed suicide.
the shun dynasty on the south kept raiding and pillaging cities including beijing that the ming generals would rather side with the manchus than seeing their family and people raped&massacred by the shun rebels.
thus mandate of heaven were given to the manchus.
go study chinese history before posting stupid comments and misleading people.
Give me source of Male Hans and Female Xianbeis, hahahha. Li Yuan's great great grandfather was an Xianbei, and so was his father, go check the source! Shimin is just 25% Han, Turk, etc. LOL
China is just a shithole, 3rd world wannabe superpower (just like India) country, its never going to be powerful unless Chinese keep making crap and stop relying on former superpowers like Russia, you fantasy chinks.
Yes, Chinese invented printing, and Koreans merely upgraded it to metal printing press. I hope Manchurians are Koreans, because Manchu written script, heritage, language, culture is on the brink of extinction, and I hope all these Koreans are exterminated from this Earth as well.
Hey, you can't even take North Korea, much less take North East China. LMFAO. China will nuke the living shit out of you Koreans. Irradiate and exterminate these inferior vicious little freaks.
Ghostsrider45 is an idiot. He says the "Manchu = Korean" and talks about their Altaic brothers achievements because Korea has no achievements. Pathetic in his attempt to claim the printing press as a Korean invention. LOL what a joke.
Male Xianbei had Han wives (Tang/Sui royal family), you dumbass. Manchus lived in forbidden city, after it was rebuilt and divded Manchu quarters from Han Chinese. They didn't believe in mandate of heaven or middle kingdom. They were following what Mongols did to Chinese 400 years earlier. Confucius imperial exam was only implemented in China proper, Tibetans thought Manchu rulers were next Dalai Lama, Mongols believed that Manchu rulers were Khans.
Han emperors? Sui and Tang royal family were majority Xianbei, 95% Xianbei, 5% Hans or other peoples. You are dumb. Korea was always ruled by Koreans, just like Germany was always ruled by ethnic Germanic people!
Manchu culture is a culture of Manchus, LOL. You should know that Hans were just a slave/lower class in many foreign dynasties like Yuan, Qing, Liao, Northern Wei, etc.
Tang was by hereditarily dominated by Xianbei cultures (even with a drop of Han blood), you can see how Tang royal family were esteemed in Xianbei culture (like horseriding, etc.) according to Tang books. Tang had Korean, Turk, etc. mixed racial people who dominated as officials or dictators like Gao Xianzhi, etc. so what's your point? Heck, An lushan was a Turk/Xianbei person. Tang was multi-ethnic nation btw.
Also, Mongols and Khitans did this as well, but not as effective as did the Manchus who ruled China, made Han Chinese to assimilate Manchu culture, outlawed Han Chinese culture (like footbinding,etc.). LOL Many Manchus also were forbidden to marry and interact with Han Chinese. LMAO!
Northern Wei was founded by Xianbei Tuoba clan, and they spoke and wrote Xianbei, but their majority of government officials wrote in Chinese to control China proper. This was same way the Manchus did about 1,000 years later to control the Chinese populace. LOL hahahahhaha
Xianbei is a Mongolic language, so yes they spoke it. As for written language (ex. Northern Wei), they used Xianbei writing system based on Uighurs and Chinese characters (to rule the populace of China proper). LOL
Li Yuan is not pure Han, there's a dispute in his ancestry and also he married Xianbei wives. Taizong and Li Shimin had majority Xianbei blood, and Li Shimin married Xianbei wives as well. Both Sui and Tang ruling class were Xianbei genetically and culturally.
Hence, why Sinocentric is bullshit if you look in Chinese lenses. China was conquered by Kingdoms of VARIOUS ethnic peoples, you idiot. BTW, the founders of Sui and Tang spoke Xianbei, were assimiliated into Xianbei culture, etc. China was always multicultural, but Han nationalists like you say it is, but all of us are Han Chinese?!?! LOL
That's what you said. Tribute from Chinese POV can be simple gifts or just trade. The Khitans gave 500 camels to Goryeo, does this mean a tribute? How can you define tribute? Korea was independent with ethnic Korean rulers, while China was always divided and conquered by other ethnic peoples in various kingdoms.
So data from veneral disease proves 50% of comfort woman? You do know that majority of comfort women were Chinese! Koreans come second, dumbass chink. lmao
"Wright (1973: 239-40) notes that Li Shimin’s “paternal grandmother had been of the great powerful Xianbei clan of Dugu” and further notes that his maternal grandmother was a daughter of Yuwen Tai and he “was thus by birth a member of the Xianbei clan of Yuwen (ibid: 242).” Apparently assuming that the father (李昞) of Li Yuan was a pure Han Chinese, Ho (1998: 131) declared that Shimin “was genetically 75 percent Xianbei.”
Funny how Sui and Tang rulers family were slaves of Xianbei.
Song gave tributes to Khitans to appease them from attacking their country, Jurchen Jin took Kaifeng and their emperor and his son, they appease Jin by bringing tributes to Jurchens. After Jin was destroyed by Mongols, the Song also gave tributes to Mongols to not invade their country. LOL
Korea was never vassal of Yuan Manchu or Ming. If she was, she would have no soverignity, the King is absolute ruler of Korea, and we traditional never believed in emperors, its a philosophical thing that is different from your son of heaven shit. Go google the "Ming eunuchs to Joseon". hahahahhaha 50%? Care to give source!
Korea was never ruled by Mongols, Manchus and any other countries except by Japan. Please keep dreaming about your fantasy histories, you do know Ming gave many eunuchs and virgin girls to Joseon, right? Majority of Khitans were assimilated into Goguryeo, Balhae, etc. Korean states. LOL Comfort woman included Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, Dutch, etc, dumbfuck. LOL!
How is Qing a chinese state when its cultural and ruling entity was Manchu? The Chinese, like Mongols and Tibetans were just a conquered people who had to obey Manchu decrees. You never know? Joseon was Confucianist, so it was Pro-Chinese in general. I blame Confucianism for making Korea a weak country, just like China!
Go look at Yongle's info on wikipedia or others sources, dumbass. LOL Qing is not Chinese, but Manchu. You know before Qing, Manchus were vassals of Joseon, so it doesn't make sense at all. Qing never interfered in Joseon politics and outside politics.^^ Give me source he skinned 2800 Koreans?
Didn't Nationalists got aided by US while Communist was largely funded by Soviets? Pawns are just Pawns. Korea was divided because of NK. Koreans get eunuchs and prostitutes from China as well. ^___^
Korea was cultural backwaters for the past 8,000 years, whereas China is the the pinnacle of human civilization in Eastern Asia, and possibly the entire world until the industrial revolution.
That's why Manchu culture, heritage, written script, language is on the brink of extinction? That's why Korea is a sub-Chinese culture, copy-cat everything from Chinese civilization, including Hanja (Chinese script) and Korea was a vassal subordinate tributary state to the nominal suzerain (China)?
Pathetic Korea is always subordinate and inferior to China.
If Korea is a subculture of China, we would still be writing Chinese just like Japanese. LOL If Korea was vassal to China, why did Korea had an absolute King. The Dragon on Joseon emblem is 5 or 7 claws, while China is limited to 5. Korea also claimed territories to so-called "nominal suzerain" to Qing Manchus. The Manchus gave Gando to Korea afterwards, so what's up LOL Doesn't this go against Chinese protocol against vassal states? HAHAHHAHAHHAHA You chinks make me laugh even more.
Korea had Emperors and Kings. We only believed that heaven is almighty ruler of all mankind, not the rulers, hence prosperity of heaven. Chinese believed that rulers were just there because of they were chosen by heaven.
Since when Korean was that much? Manchu invaded Korea, too. Korea was a tributary state of han chinese Ming Dynasty, and manchu empire. Manchu empire uses han or chinese language. manchu had been directly the colony of Ming Dynasty before, too. Today Korea area is very small because Korea has lost its land to Jurchens or manchu, Han chinese, mongol, japanese. Slave of all races there is Korea. i'm from Southeast Asia of india sphere culture
Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. Looks like Manchus politically subjugated China, but China culturally dominated Manchuria. LOL!
Yes, Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. It all started with Emperor Kangxi prostrated himself 3 times and kowtowed 9 times in front of the effigy of Confucius. Something Korean kings used to do to the Chinese emperor.
Funny part is that he was only Manchu emperor that favored Confucianism. As for Korean Kings, they never did to any Chinese emperor, which is another bullshit. The funny part is that Manchus emperors only spoke in Manchu language, a language than chinese would never understand. ^^
Oh, that's is interesting, since Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. Korean people should be exterminated from this Earth as well. The most inferior vicious little freakish race in East Asia, and the most hopeless, pathetic, and unmanageable nation on Earth.
The funny part of Chinese like you is that you say Manchus are Chinese, but in fact you hate them. Why the lies and hypocritsy? You chinese are so delusional. hahaha
Sorry, but do we overpopulate and disturb other countries like chinks? think about that, your people are disgusting whores that needs to be exterminated. Dirty people with dirty culture!
Tang dynasty emperor says this? hahahaha Do you know prime minister Yeom Gasomun says that Tang has short history. hahahahahahahhaha Your first Tang emperor died and wrote to never have a war against Goguryeo.
The opinion, will, and desire of the Korean peoples have zero consequence on the fate of the Korean peninsula. What an unlucky, hopeless, unmanagable country, that is Korea, the most inferior nation in East Asia.
Chinese and Japanese are superior to Korean, hence why Korea is divided by major powers, and Korean women are offered as tribute to American protective services (ie. American G.I.) - so much for racial purity of your country, it's all getting gang raped by foreign soldiers.
I bet one of your grand mothers' ears could be found in Ear Mound in Japan. Cuz you obviously cannot HEAR me when I say: Japanese should have made a body mound of all Koreans on Earth, kill 'em all!!!!
Korea isn't divided by major powers (Russia/US), that was back in 1950s. As for today, american GI is stationed in Germany, Japan ,etc. too, so stfu, dumbass chink. Obviously, the Ear tomb also included Chinese soldiers as well, stupid chink.
As for China, wasn't it supported by Russia as well? Now, Russia supplys arms to China, you got it? LOL
Yes, but U.S. has war-time command of S. Korea's military, therefore S. Korea is like a castrated vassal protectorate which doesn't even have command of it's own military. Talk about getting owned. Korea is a hopeless cause. Korean people themselves don't know it, but their country and people will be extinct very soon.
US didn't control the SK military in Korean war, they supplied the army with weapons and supplies. South Korea has its own army, navy and airforce and is among the top 10 largest in world, dumbass. Where the fuck did you get information that SK military is under American supervision?
As for China, did you know Russia supplied the Communists under Mao in 1920s-1940s? So Mao was vassal of Stalin? LOL
No... you are Korean, but you don't even know America has war-time command of SK's military? Why don't you go google this shit, you stupid Korean. I'm not here to teach inferior Koreans about their country. Go fucking google it. There is an internet for that inferior Korean.
Well, Chinese, Japanese, Manchu, Mongol, Russian, and American soldiers all had their dicks up Korean women's vaginas, spread STD to wipe out the Korean race, which is a cum bucket for foreign warriors. :D
Did you google how America has war-time command of South Korea's military.
How do you consider yourself a sovereign nation if N. Korea attacks your country, and you have to ask white people whether it's okay to defend your sovereign territory?
White men control your military, even though Korean war is long over, because they don't trust S. Koreans with their own military, since they might self-destructive and accidentally overdose on Kim chee or something. Vassal state.
Where does USA control SK? c'om, give me the source, I am waiting on your answer, you stupid chink As for Russia, doesn't China need Russian tanks and guns? This is same shit as China and Russia. Fucken vassal, manchu slave. ^^ Do you know why China was always conquered by smaller amount of people? A: Because chinks are fucken inferior creatures. hahahahahha
@Shovelheaded666
Manchus, Chinese or Korean whosoever is none of your business. If you come to China your head would be chopped off like the old days.
Thak11 1 month ago
@Thak11 I have been to China, and they need to seriously change their ways. A full extermination of all non Han Chinese people is preferable.
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666
Why you have the idea so extreme like that ?
Thak11 1 month ago
@Thak11 I apologize for that. I was under the influence of a lot of built up anger, and did not stop to think rationally of what I was typing ....
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666
That's alright, people do have ups and downs in emotion.
Thak11 1 month ago
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Look, I actually have some Han Chinese blood and for a piece of shit Manchu like you to even consider yourself Chinese is a something unacceptable! It's pretty much a guarantee that your face will be beaten beyond recognition!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@ComradeMing "Dream about Korea reunification"? Looks like it's about to happen now for Korea. Taiwan on the other hand....Not so much. And to make sure that Taiwan doesn't fall into China's hands, SK will arm them to their teeth; think I'm kidding? And as for Manchus, I think the Manchus were gunning down Pig Tailed China man the last time Manchuria was liberated (see Jap).
coolLife1500 1 month ago
@coolLife1500 Manchus didn't live in Manchuria at that time retard. Most already resided in the mainland. Only Puyi defected because he wanted to be Emperor again. Manchukuo didnt do shit. Manchus arent stupid. They lost to Japs in the 1st war and they saw it as a disgrace. You make Manchus seem like a bunch of wimps. Just stfu kimchi shithead you dont belong with us 8 banners mother fucker. We stole Korean women under Qing.I am half Mongol dumbass. Trinity of Qing under 8, Manchu-Mongol-Han.
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
@DragonOfQin PFFFF as a Han Chinese, pieces of fuck like the Mongolians and and the Manchu do not deserve any fucking rights in China!! I still till this day do not understand why China has not committed genocide against the Manchu's. Look If I had the chance, I would beat the life out of every single Manchu man, woman, and child!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@DragonOfQin Manchus are not even on the same level as humans! If you are a Manchu, all I can say is that I wish the worst for you!!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@coolLife1500 dream about Kimchi reunification. I was bursting with joy wen Kim Un told SK to fuck off. PS: Taiwan SK relations had been going downhill since SK opened up with PRC. "I think Manchus..." You don't think gook you do what your Manchu master tells you what to do. Remember Samjeondo Monument? I went 2 Korea and I visited it. That should be a UNESCO site. LOL!
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
Korean /Sillan are descendants of Old Tungus separated more than 10,000 or 12,000 years ago if they say they are Tungus. They are related to the Manchus only in this aspect.
Koreans should say they are brothers of the Japanese which is more likely.
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11 12,000 years is just too long ago. Shit North Chinese also descendant of nomadic tribes if Koreans go by this logic.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@ComradeMing
Manchus are our brothers, don't worry, we will take back Manchuria and divide China into chess pieces.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 Hey retard most Manchus live in China so what the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing to split nothing to divide. Manchu will gun your gook ass down if you try to invade China. China is a concept invented by Manchu afterall. 1 nation united people Qing Dynasty.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin Dream You piece of shit, and if you are a Manchu you yourself a fucking gook!!! God, i hope you read this and decide to end your life right now! Manchus are not CHINESE!!! They need to fuck off and quit steeling CHINESE CULTURE!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666 what about Koreans?
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
@DragonOfQin Koreans never claimed to be Chinese. The Manchu's were posers who wanted to be fucking Chinese!! GOD I HATE THEM SO MUCH YOU AND ALL THE MANCHUS NEED TO GET OUT OF CHINA!!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666 Koreans claim to be Manchus though and Koreans say that Chinese were their slaves. Whats up with that?
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
@DragonOfQin All Koreans I know, never claimed to be Manchus! I'm sorry, if you are a Manchu, you need to leave China before I come and exterminate all of you with my bare hands!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666 What the fuck? I bet you're Korean! Koreans know alot about Manchu. Look up Korean Manchu. They keep saying they are related to Manchu you retard. You a fucking kimchi gook imposter.
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
@DragonOfQin Wow I find it hysterical that a low degenerate like you decides to conjure up the notion that I'm Korean (I'm not) just because I state that the Manchu people are not Chinese. And by the way, you are only demeaning yourself with the use of the word "gook" as it implies all Asians! Anyways, I still support with all my heart the idea of the Han Chinese systematically massacring all ethnic Manchu's from Inner China!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@Shovelheaded666 erm just to let you know since i'm a chinese, han chinese is not really an ethnicity or race, it was categorized as such because of the same beliefs and similarity in culture.
many han chinese you know today have many origins from the manchus and mongols, some don't even know it themselves. (and i don't mean by rape and massacare, they just blended in)
i know that teochew and hakkas have very distinct chinese culture from typical han, but they are labeled han chinese anyway.
tdzheng 3 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 before the occupation of beijing, ALL manchurians were forced to wear the same clothes and queu.
and if you dont know, manchurians during ming dynasty was an autonomous allied state of ming. culturally they are also quite similar to chinese, the way they dress used to be the same as chinese tho.
after occupation of china proper, manchu identity, became a military caste system under the 8 banners. by that they can't participate in trade as the normal han chinese do.
tdzheng 3 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 manchus were not being exterminated by chinese, but by Japanese colony manchukuo. where emperor puyi in his desperate situation, just sign any laws forwarded to him.
today, china is helping the manchus to revive the manchu language, sadly most young generation manchus aren't that interested.
ironically many manchu speakers are han chinese professors today.
i remember when manchukuo fall, many colony children from japan was abandoned in china. the biological parents just fled...
tdzheng 3 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 manchus are practically chinese, i don't see why you should hate them, honestly, mongols and manchus were supposed to be one of us, until colonialist came.
i can tell you, under western influences, many chinese were shocked to hear that, manchus were not chinese, even some manchus themselves, when europe came riling up china.
just to let you know that many han chinese also held very high governmental positions at the time. whom also oppose modernization in qing dynasty..
tdzheng 3 weeks ago
@tdzheng I appreciate you for giving a some insight, but you must remember, the reason the Qing dynasty was resented by the majority of China was because they were ruled over by a foreign power. You can't deny history. By the way, I do not consider the Theo Chow to be Chinese in anyway
Shovelheaded666 2 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 oh really? i'm teo chew btw. my great great grandfather used to be a minister in chaoshan.
my great grandfather died from opium when he was young, and my grandfather ended up in malaysia due to civil wars at that period.
maybe a lot of of chinese in china today say that qing is a foreign is a foreign ruler due to propaganda, but not for migrated chinese in that period, whom also supported sun yat sen financially.
whom stayed in penang before 1911 of qinghai revolution.
tdzheng 2 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 teo chew is an old people dated back from tang dynasty.
we had more claim of old han chinese more than you think, language wise we sill have roughly half of old surviving vocabulary. listed in unesco, so does having the oldest form of chinese opera.
our original homeland were from/around chang'an/xian today. migrated south due to "civil" wars. and called chinese jews sing we don't really have a permanent home.
many old ppl still call them selves t'ng nang, translated tang ppl.
tdzheng 2 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 ppl mistaken teochew for minnan since some notable ppl like taksin the great, king of thonburi kingdom 1734-1782, were of teochew origin. and yes, some words are similar to thai language.
but we're still chinese though, if that's what you're asking. there is still many teochew on chaoshan today. though slang may differ due to mandarin influences.
if we're chinese why can't manchu's be chinese, they're practically the same ppl if you look at them.
tdzheng 2 weeks ago
@Shovelheaded666 here's some teochew opera, /watch?v=qoqMyirx31s
if you want to know.
that's what they wear on those days, though opera clothes could be abit exaggerated.
but their clothes also depicts a timeline. and what they wear depicts rank.
tho i understand chinese opera is not suited for western tastes.
tdzheng 2 weeks ago
@tdzheng Sorry to respond so late. Once again, thanks for the insight about the Chinese nation as a whole. I guess my conception of Teochew has some what changed after the information you've provided me. I accept the manchu and any other ethnic group in China to be of Chinese nationality, but as part of the han ethnic.....well i'm still a still a little shakey about that
Shovelheaded666 2 hours ago
@Shovelheaded666 haha no prob, hope it helps.
and yeah manchu and han can be quite complicated though, but they were once not han, or should i say an distinct ethnic group. with their own culture and language.
but i can hardly say for now, after long period of rule, communism and the cultural revolution, many manchus of stature hid their identity in fear of persecution.
even today's "manchurians" are not 100% manchus. some han chinese declare themselves manchu to avoid 1 child policy.
tdzheng 1 hour ago
@Shovelheaded666 i you wanna find real existing manchus, you should go to taiwan.
some of the turncoat warlords joined the kuomintang after the abdication of qing dynasty.
other than that is south east asia like malaysia, thailand ect. though in SEA most of manchu's descendants there already blended in into other dominent chinese culture there(hakka,teochew,canto,hainan).
han ethnic by its self comprised of, also many ethnic groups. as i say again, each place have their own distinct culture
tdzheng 1 hour ago
@tdzheng
The Manchus concept of Manchuria also includes their tribes in Korean peninsula , just read the Manchus ' book " The Originalities of Manchuria".
Just like in the past Chinese concept of Liadong also included Korean peninsula (maybe part of it. ).
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11
Read Origins of Manchu and Jin book says they were from Korea, nothing more.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@Thak11 never heard of that book yet, will look up to it, from what i know is koreans usually don't like inter-breeding in those days, let alone "barbarian" tribes up north.
and were rather objecting when the manchus took beijing. claiming to be the inheritor of old confucian culture
usually manchus were more to the amur river, get me a credible source to prove me wrong or else doesn't prove your point.
tdzheng 2 months ago
@tdzheng
yep, heck Manchu emperors claimed themselves Khan to rule Mongols, Buddha to rule Tibetans, confucianists to rule Chinese, etc. hahahhahahaha
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@tdzheng
Manchus = same volk as Koreans, maybe you'll never understand homogeneous people's culture!
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 i can't take you seriously anymore, you just state baseless facts.
you can't even state where manchu's originated from properly.
if you want to lie about manchu's history you have to do better than this!
and regarding chinese rituals, i don't even want to bother explaining it to you, cuz you'll just claim it's korean ritual all over again.
tdzheng 2 months ago
@tdzheng
Explain it to me right now because it's my first time hearing this when I studied my own culture. Yes, MANCHU culture. Mandate of heaven is just a concept, neither the Qing official records shows this which is funny.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 earlier you say you're korean and now you say you're manchu?!
god damn.. hell you even claim goguryo was south koreans? when most south koreans came from silla, gaya, and baekje, goguryo haven't even come to your map at all.
and you have no concept of what ritual is, it's not a "concept" it's a religion!
were you even born in asia?
tdzheng 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 Gookrider are you talking shit? Qianlong wrote to King George describing English religion of Christianity as barbaric and said that Qing was not willing to adopt Christianity because Qing used a mandate of heaven and earth as their religion which had lasted for thousands of years. Stay out of Chinese history and stick to your gook history. Suck Nippon dick while your doing that. ROFL!!! "Manchu dont identify themself with dogs" from my Manchu friend aka Batarusha.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
We are going to take back NE Korea soon for Manchus people, their homeland there.
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11 erm the manchus homeland is in manchuria, and if i remember correctly, the manchus were quite hostile towards joseon dynasty, raiding their borders.
that was before qing dynasty was established anyway.
tdzheng 2 months ago
@tdzheng
Yep, it depends on which Manchu tribes were hostile, the other Manchu tribes (includes Nuarachi) were allied with Joseon.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 nurhachi was allied/vassal state to ming dynasty. and later rebelled sometime in his later life for various political reasons (yehe).
and killed during a siege by a chinese canon.
well he was hostile to both ming and joseon. hell, just wiki it!
your argument is invalid.
the origins of manchus were from jurchen, oh dear are you trolling me?! xD
tdzheng 2 months ago
Jin, Bohai, Koguryo and Gojosun were not Korean , the present Koreans steal the names of these countries different from them.
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11
How do you "steal" history, you can fabricate history, which China is doing right now.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 i did not steal history, why not just go to manchuria and ask the manchus about your historical "fact"? and see how they feel about it?
the mandate of heaven was quite real to them, they even do the rituals. as does every chinese emperor.
heck they were even more superticious and conservative then the chinese themselves.
yeah they did took over those said places, yet they still proclaimed themselves as chinese of the middle kingdom, go read historical facts, not korean claims.
tdzheng 2 months ago
@tdzheng
What Chinese rituals did Manchus ever did? You explain.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
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China is similar to UK.
Han chinese are like english.
Uyghurs are like scottish.
Tibet is like Welsh.
And inner mongolia is like northern Ireland.
The manchus and han chinese are now one ethnic group like anglo-saxons.
kangaroodragon123 3 months ago
@kangaroodragon123 lol good comparison.
tdzheng 2 months ago
China is just a shit-poor country, not even an advanced technological power in world!
Do you know how tiny Britain controlled half the earth's population? Because of technology. So far, the chinks haven't gotten that idea!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Ghostrider has this delusion that Korea was "free" from foreign domination, and talks about their Altaic brother's achievements, and even goes as far as saying: "Manchu = Korean" therefore, Koreans conquered China. Talk about having zero self-esteem, inferiority complex of Korean people. LOL! He says Korea will take back Manchuria. I probably think China will annex North Korea or at the very least be the sole reigning regional hegemon that will dictate terms of Korean reunificatio
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Jin, Balhae, Goguryeo, Gojoseon, etc. are ALL Korean, I never assumed we conquered China, you dumbass. China WAS always conquered by foreign people whether you like or hate the thought. LOL China will never annex NK, NK has one of the largest militaries in world, dumbfuck. You think you can go right in and say hello? hahahahhaha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
If Chinese invented printing, why are the oldest printing materials originated from Korea? China like the historian above was always conquered by foreigners, hence Koreans always laugh at Chinks. hahahahhahahahahhahahahahha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Korea has the oldest extant bounded book, while China has the oldest extant printed material. Big difference there pal. Big difference.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
oldest printed material = Korea
0 China. hahhahahha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Oldext extant bounded book means Korea's metal printing press was the oldest to do mass printing, but the oldest extant printed material is China's wooden printing press.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Funny how chinks and their chinkland was conquered by just few thousands Mongols and Manchus.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
You talk about OTHER people's achievements. Talk about insecurity. There is no Korean achievement to speak of.
Phead128 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45 about mongol conquering jin dynasty, were actually aided by song armies(then allied) against jin, mongol warfare at d time do not have the capability of siege warfare nor does heavy weaponries. mongols did not really get into world power until jin dynasty fell(when most northern chinese join mongol ranks).
until then jin dynasty did overpower the mongols until they faced two pronged invasions on both north and south(mongol-song alliance).
and later disputes between mongol&song
tdzheng 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 and regarding manchus, they were let in by the emperors general, when the whole imperial family committed suicide.
the shun dynasty on the south kept raiding and pillaging cities including beijing that the ming generals would rather side with the manchus than seeing their family and people raped&massacred by the shun rebels.
thus mandate of heaven were given to the manchus.
go study chinese history before posting stupid comments and misleading people.
tdzheng 2 months ago
@tdzheng
Mandate of heaven is just an concept, there's no proof that Manchus ever said that. They just took over China, Tibet, Mongolia, and Taiwan.
ghoststrider45 2 months ago
@ComradeMing
Give me source of Male Hans and Female Xianbeis, hahahha. Li Yuan's great great grandfather was an Xianbei, and so was his father, go check the source! Shimin is just 25% Han, Turk, etc. LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
But that doesn't make sense, Sui and Tang royal families were largely descendant of Xianbei stock and culture?? hahahaha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
as tributary states to the nominal suzerain, China.
Phead128 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Korea and Japan, via imperial decree, will resubmit themselves within the proper order of East Asia soon enough.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
China is just a shithole, 3rd world wannabe superpower (just like India) country, its never going to be powerful unless Chinese keep making crap and stop relying on former superpowers like Russia, you fantasy chinks.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
China will be a Superpower, and will dictate the terms and conditions of Korean reunification. Anyone with a brain knows this dude.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
So when? Conditions of Korean reunification? Does China control NK? hahahahha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Yes, Chinese invented printing, and Koreans merely upgraded it to metal printing press. I hope Manchurians are Koreans, because Manchu written script, heritage, language, culture is on the brink of extinction, and I hope all these Koreans are exterminated from this Earth as well.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Koreans invented printing, and printing press as well. Yes, we Koreans are going to take back Manchuria soon.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Hey, you can't even take North Korea, much less take North East China. LMFAO. China will nuke the living shit out of you Koreans. Irradiate and exterminate these inferior vicious little freaks.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
NK has nukes, who doesn't? stupid dirty chinks.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Ghostsrider45 is an idiot. He says the "Manchu = Korean" and talks about their Altaic brothers achievements because Korea has no achievements. Pathetic in his attempt to claim the printing press as a Korean invention. LOL what a joke.
Phead128 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
The wall was built in Ming era, during that time, the Ming had many confrontations with nomadic people like Manchus. ^^
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
The same how Han Chinese thought Manchu rulers were fulfilling Confucius morals, etc.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Male Xianbei had Han wives (Tang/Sui royal family), you dumbass. Manchus lived in forbidden city, after it was rebuilt and divded Manchu quarters from Han Chinese. They didn't believe in mandate of heaven or middle kingdom. They were following what Mongols did to Chinese 400 years earlier. Confucius imperial exam was only implemented in China proper, Tibetans thought Manchu rulers were next Dalai Lama, Mongols believed that Manchu rulers were Khans.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
What cultural aspect did Chinese impose on Manchus? Nothing, why? You ask yourself, ok? hahaha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
China was vassal state to Khitans, Jins, Mongols, etc. hahaha.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Han emperors? Sui and Tang royal family were majority Xianbei, 95% Xianbei, 5% Hans or other peoples. You are dumb. Korea was always ruled by Koreans, just like Germany was always ruled by ethnic Germanic people!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Manchu culture is a culture of Manchus, LOL. You should know that Hans were just a slave/lower class in many foreign dynasties like Yuan, Qing, Liao, Northern Wei, etc.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
Hans were just slaves of the various ruling ethnic peoples, like I said before. LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Tang was by hereditarily dominated by Xianbei cultures (even with a drop of Han blood), you can see how Tang royal family were esteemed in Xianbei culture (like horseriding, etc.) according to Tang books. Tang had Korean, Turk, etc. mixed racial people who dominated as officials or dictators like Gao Xianzhi, etc. so what's your point? Heck, An lushan was a Turk/Xianbei person. Tang was multi-ethnic nation btw.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Also, Mongols and Khitans did this as well, but not as effective as did the Manchus who ruled China, made Han Chinese to assimilate Manchu culture, outlawed Han Chinese culture (like footbinding,etc.). LOL Many Manchus also were forbidden to marry and interact with Han Chinese. LMAO!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Northern Wei was founded by Xianbei Tuoba clan, and they spoke and wrote Xianbei, but their majority of government officials wrote in Chinese to control China proper. This was same way the Manchus did about 1,000 years later to control the Chinese populace. LOL hahahahhaha
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Xianbei is a Mongolic language, so yes they spoke it. As for written language (ex. Northern Wei), they used Xianbei writing system based on Uighurs and Chinese characters (to rule the populace of China proper). LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Li Yuan is not pure Han, there's a dispute in his ancestry and also he married Xianbei wives. Taizong and Li Shimin had majority Xianbei blood, and Li Shimin married Xianbei wives as well. Both Sui and Tang ruling class were Xianbei genetically and culturally.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
What do you mean?
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Hence, why Sinocentric is bullshit if you look in Chinese lenses. China was conquered by Kingdoms of VARIOUS ethnic peoples, you idiot. BTW, the founders of Sui and Tang spoke Xianbei, were assimiliated into Xianbei culture, etc. China was always multicultural, but Han nationalists like you say it is, but all of us are Han Chinese?!?! LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Google it.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
"Sui and Tang Cannot Be Classified as Han Chinese Dynasties: Successors to the Xianbei Conquest Dynasties" by Wontack Hong.
It's a really good sourced article, I recommend reading this and also research your own as well.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
That's what you said. Tribute from Chinese POV can be simple gifts or just trade. The Khitans gave 500 camels to Goryeo, does this mean a tribute? How can you define tribute? Korea was independent with ethnic Korean rulers, while China was always divided and conquered by other ethnic peoples in various kingdoms.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
So data from veneral disease proves 50% of comfort woman? You do know that majority of comfort women were Chinese! Koreans come second, dumbass chink. lmao
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
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ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
"Wright (1973: 239-40) notes that Li Shimin’s “paternal grandmother had been of the great powerful Xianbei clan of Dugu” and further notes that his maternal grandmother was a daughter of Yuwen Tai and he “was thus by birth a member of the Xianbei clan of Yuwen (ibid: 242).” Apparently assuming that the father (李昞) of Li Yuan was a pure Han Chinese, Ho (1998: 131) declared that Shimin “was genetically 75 percent Xianbei.”
Funny how Sui and Tang rulers family were slaves of Xianbei.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Song gave tributes to Khitans to appease them from attacking their country, Jurchen Jin took Kaifeng and their emperor and his son, they appease Jin by bringing tributes to Jurchens. After Jin was destroyed by Mongols, the Song also gave tributes to Mongols to not invade their country. LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Korea was never vassal of Yuan Manchu or Ming. If she was, she would have no soverignity, the King is absolute ruler of Korea, and we traditional never believed in emperors, its a philosophical thing that is different from your son of heaven shit. Go google the "Ming eunuchs to Joseon". hahahahhaha 50%? Care to give source!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
Tang ruling class was Xianbei and they even had Xianbei culture. LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Korea was never ruled by Mongols, Manchus and any other countries except by Japan. Please keep dreaming about your fantasy histories, you do know Ming gave many eunuchs and virgin girls to Joseon, right? Majority of Khitans were assimilated into Goguryeo, Balhae, etc. Korean states. LOL Comfort woman included Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, Dutch, etc, dumbfuck. LOL!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
How did Manchus ever assimilate Chinese culture? It was the other way around. Heck, many ruling Chinese like Yuan Shikai were pro-Manchu. LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
How is Qing a chinese state when its cultural and ruling entity was Manchu? The Chinese, like Mongols and Tibetans were just a conquered people who had to obey Manchu decrees. You never know? Joseon was Confucianist, so it was Pro-Chinese in general. I blame Confucianism for making Korea a weak country, just like China!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Go look at Yongle's info on wikipedia or others sources, dumbass. LOL Qing is not Chinese, but Manchu. You know before Qing, Manchus were vassals of Joseon, so it doesn't make sense at all. Qing never interfered in Joseon politics and outside politics.^^ Give me source he skinned 2800 Koreans?
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ComradeMing
Yongle's great grandmother was Korean, didn't know? BTW, it's nice that China gave so many woman and enunchs to Joseon. ^^ LOL
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
That's why Korea is divided, it's weak, pathetic, and should be eradicated from this Earth.
Phead128 3 months ago
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Korea is divided because it's pathetic, pawns of Superpowers, bitch slave conquered territories, where Chinese get virgins from Korea as tribute.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Didn't Nationalists got aided by US while Communist was largely funded by Soviets? Pawns are just Pawns. Korea was divided because of NK. Koreans get eunuchs and prostitutes from China as well. ^___^
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
China throughout history was always conquered by smaller unknown people, this is sad inferior history of chinks. ^^
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Korea was cultural backwaters for the past 8,000 years, whereas China is the the pinnacle of human civilization in Eastern Asia, and possibly the entire world until the industrial revolution.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
China just had a writing system, that's it. Chinese culture was just a byproduct of western cultures, particulary, Central Asian. ^^
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Have you seen the video "I'm a Korean" - LMFAO Ninja please, stupid Korean.
Phead128 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Yeah, that is why Korean culture was just a byproduct of American GI cocks right?
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Yea yea, China sucked Manchu dick for 400 years, my friend.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
That's why KOrea was the vassal slave of Chinese, Japanese, American, Russian, Khitan, Jurchen, Manchu, Mongolian, and even N. Koreans lol!!!
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Why is Chinese slave of Mongols, Manchus, Japanese, Russian, American, French, British, Khitan, Jurchens, Koreans, etc? you dumbfuck!
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
That's why Manchu culture, heritage, written script, language is on the brink of extinction? That's why Korea is a sub-Chinese culture, copy-cat everything from Chinese civilization, including Hanja (Chinese script) and Korea was a vassal subordinate tributary state to the nominal suzerain (China)?
Pathetic Korea is always subordinate and inferior to China.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
If Korea is a subculture of China, we would still be writing Chinese just like Japanese. LOL If Korea was vassal to China, why did Korea had an absolute King. The Dragon on Joseon emblem is 5 or 7 claws, while China is limited to 5. Korea also claimed territories to so-called "nominal suzerain" to Qing Manchus. The Manchus gave Gando to Korea afterwards, so what's up LOL Doesn't this go against Chinese protocol against vassal states? HAHAHHAHAHHAHA You chinks make me laugh even more.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Korea never had an Emperor, only a King. China had an Emperor, and Korea was a conquered vassal subordinate inferior state to China.
Phead128 3 months ago
@Phead128
Korea had Emperors and Kings. We only believed that heaven is almighty ruler of all mankind, not the rulers, hence prosperity of heaven. Chinese believed that rulers were just there because of they were chosen by heaven.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
If NK is part of china, why it banned Hanja? LOL
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
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Since when Korean was that much? Manchu invaded Korea, too. Korea was a tributary state of han chinese Ming Dynasty, and manchu empire. Manchu empire uses han or chinese language. manchu had been directly the colony of Ming Dynasty before, too. Today Korea area is very small because Korea has lost its land to Jurchens or manchu, Han chinese, mongol, japanese. Slave of all races there is Korea. i'm from Southeast Asia of india sphere culture
tukkatathai 4 months ago
Nice job, Manchus for ruling the Chinese 300 years!
Love from Korea.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45 Nice job, Kim Jong Il is persecuting his Korean populace due to direct orders from his Chinese overlords
ILike2DrinkAlot 4 months ago
@ILike2DrinkAlot
LOL at direct orders? yes, according to your fantasy. hahaha
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
You haven't heard? N. Korea is a de-facto Chinese colony dude.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
nope, it's just your Chinese fantasy.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. Looks like Manchus politically subjugated China, but China culturally dominated Manchuria. LOL!
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
culturally dominated Manchuria? No, modern China controls Manchuria. LOL! haha
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Yes, Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. It all started with Emperor Kangxi prostrated himself 3 times and kowtowed 9 times in front of the effigy of Confucius. Something Korean kings used to do to the Chinese emperor.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Funny part is that he was only Manchu emperor that favored Confucianism. As for Korean Kings, they never did to any Chinese emperor, which is another bullshit. The funny part is that Manchus emperors only spoke in Manchu language, a language than chinese would never understand. ^^
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Oh, that's is interesting, since Manchu written script, language, and heritage is on the brink of extinction. Korean people should be exterminated from this Earth as well. The most inferior vicious little freakish race in East Asia, and the most hopeless, pathetic, and unmanageable nation on Earth.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
hahahahha inferior vicious? Why did Chinese call us Land of gentleman? hahahahhaha
Anyway, it's good you celebrated liberation from manchu rule.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Exterminated.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
The funny part of Chinese like you is that you say Manchus are Chinese, but in fact you hate them. Why the lies and hypocritsy? You chinese are so delusional. hahaha
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Nothing more inferior than a Korean. They should all be exterminated by the Japanese.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Sorry, but do we overpopulate and disturb other countries like chinks? think about that, your people are disgusting whores that needs to be exterminated. Dirty people with dirty culture!
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Vicious little freaks.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Tang dynasty emperor says this? hahahaha Do you know prime minister Yeom Gasomun says that Tang has short history. hahahahahahahhaha Your first Tang emperor died and wrote to never have a war against Goguryeo.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
That's why Korea is the most inferior nation in East Asia today right?
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
According to Chinese fantasy? Yep the whole world is Chinese and God is Chinese too. ^^
stupid lie inferior chinks!
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
You mad bro?
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
is jesus chinese also? This is typical of sinocentricism. ^^
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Koreans are renown for their pseudo-historical revision. Koreans are known to claim Manchurians as their own. They are called "Kimcheerians"!
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
historical revisionism? since when? hahaha yep in your chinese fantasy. Please eat your dim sum and stinky tofu, jjangkola.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
You can say all you want, but at least I'm not a stinky Kimcheerian wannabe Manchurian.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Wannabe Manchurian?
"The Korean people are an ethnic group originating in the Korean peninsula and Manchuria.[10][11] "
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
The opinion, will, and desire of the Korean peoples have zero consequence on the fate of the Korean peninsula. What an unlucky, hopeless, unmanagable country, that is Korea, the most inferior nation in East Asia.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
zero consequences? uh....why was Korea always ruled by ethnic Koreans? And China never? china is still a shithole compare to South Korea. LOL
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
If ethnic Koreans are so superior to China, why is China one nation, and why is Korea two nations huh? LOL!!!!!!!
Phead128 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
That's why N. Korea is a de-facto Chinese colony, and Americans are gang-raping Korean women vaginas right?
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
IF NK is a Chinese colony, then why is NK so anti-Chinese? Chinese is just aiding NK, so are SK, USA, and Japan, you dumb chink. hahahaha
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
All Koreans should be exterminated and the Korean peninsula should be annexed by China and Japan. Korean race should be exterminated.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
"Should be"? Didn't Japanese also annexed parts of China? hahaha stop bullshitting your fantasy dream, jjang.
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Chinese and Japanese are superior to Korean, hence why Korea is divided by major powers, and Korean women are offered as tribute to American protective services (ie. American G.I.) - so much for racial purity of your country, it's all getting gang raped by foreign soldiers.
I bet one of your grand mothers' ears could be found in Ear Mound in Japan. Cuz you obviously cannot HEAR me when I say: Japanese should have made a body mound of all Koreans on Earth, kill 'em all!!!!
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Korea isn't divided by major powers (Russia/US), that was back in 1950s. As for today, american GI is stationed in Germany, Japan ,etc. too, so stfu, dumbass chink. Obviously, the Ear tomb also included Chinese soldiers as well, stupid chink.
As for China, wasn't it supported by Russia as well? Now, Russia supplys arms to China, you got it? LOL
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Yes, but U.S. has war-time command of S. Korea's military, therefore S. Korea is like a castrated vassal protectorate which doesn't even have command of it's own military. Talk about getting owned. Korea is a hopeless cause. Korean people themselves don't know it, but their country and people will be extinct very soon.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
US didn't control the SK military in Korean war, they supplied the army with weapons and supplies. South Korea has its own army, navy and airforce and is among the top 10 largest in world, dumbass. Where the fuck did you get information that SK military is under American supervision?
As for China, did you know Russia supplied the Communists under Mao in 1920s-1940s? So Mao was vassal of Stalin? LOL
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
No... you are Korean, but you don't even know America has war-time command of SK's military? Why don't you go google this shit, you stupid Korean. I'm not here to teach inferior Koreans about their country. Go fucking google it. There is an internet for that inferior Korean.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
STFU, manchu slave. Go bow down to foreign emperors, inferior jjangkae. hahaha
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Well, Chinese, Japanese, Manchu, Mongol, Russian, and American soldiers all had their dicks up Korean women's vaginas, spread STD to wipe out the Korean race, which is a cum bucket for foreign warriors. :D
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
are we mixed genetically, unlike the holy chink race? hahaha XD
ghoststrider45 4 months ago
@ghoststrider45
Did you google how America has war-time command of South Korea's military.
How do you consider yourself a sovereign nation if N. Korea attacks your country, and you have to ask white people whether it's okay to defend your sovereign territory?
White men control your military, even though Korean war is long over, because they don't trust S. Koreans with their own military, since they might self-destructive and accidentally overdose on Kim chee or something. Vassal state.
Phead128 4 months ago
@Phead128
Where does USA control SK? c'om, give me the source, I am waiting on your answer, you stupid chink As for Russia, doesn't China need Russian tanks and guns? This is same shit as China and Russia. Fucken vassal, manchu slave. ^^ Do you know why China was always conquered by smaller amount of people? A: Because chinks are fucken inferior creatures. hahahahahha