Who knew the exact time the clock got hit, only doc was there and the went by a flier and an old lady telling marty in the begining.... soooo the official record was off... who knows the second historical moments in your towns history.
keeping in spirit of the short video. here is my answer. Docs estimate could have been wrong and if the car was running when the alarm went off. Mary would have been trapped. Past doc has been wrong on a few occasion. like in the 3rd movie. Marty said he will crash into the indians. and doc said they wouldn't be there
Pretty much all of Doc's inventions he made in 1955 seemed not to work. I wouldn't be surprised if he had also made a 12-second error in his calculations which Marty ended up avoiding by "luck" :-)
But, Doc didn't know what second the lightning was going to strike. His math was going under the assumption that the lighting was going to strike at exactly 10:04. But there is a 1 in 60 chance of that happening. Marty was probably lucky that there was the delay, or he would have been to early.
This whole "loop hole" thing and all that is pure bullshit. Even though movies have to make sense somehow, they also pack certain things to make you grip the seat with your butt, so in this case, the alarm clock thing was a mere psychological game to make the spectator feel like Marty would not be able to make it to the lightning, yet he was able to reach it, causing an "excitement for success" feeling to everyone watching the movie. What a load of cack this video is...
Here is another question for you, at the dance, what happened to George, that changed him so dramatically that he would punch out a guy for dancing with his date?
1. The clock tower was struck by lightning at 10:04 PM. That's 1 whole minute, 60 seconds of leeway for failure, mistakes, and so on.
2. The relative acceleration of the delorean would not be a factor Doc could have known, he would have had to guess. There are many factors, like wind resistance, road condition, weight, friction changes due to moisture. Bottom line, Doc could not have calculated these factors precisely.
Heres a loop hole deloreans dont go 88 miles an hour! Making the whole idea of time travel in a delorean impossible if not absurd! But so what it's just a movie, and also being why thanks to you why they will never be a back to the future movie 4, as biff would say, thank you very much.
WHO GIVES A DAMN?!!!! its an iconic movie, no one watches these movies and looks for mistakes......we love Back to the Future for exactly how it is....you have to much time on your hands sir! Also its a movie!
He's not late, he decided to go back early (like 10 seconds) to warn Doc about the Libyans, and he only stalled for ten seconds so really he would've got it working at the right moment.
I'd like to tie in the notion that the lightning was 12-13 seconds after the minute with one that "the universe" was protecting itself and disabled/enabled the vehicle for the right period of time for things to work out. Then again said universe may prevent time travel altogether. Or....this is how it played out within the alternate "loop" of time created out of the manipulation of and existence in the past and the car malfunctioned every time in the same way in said "loop". good movie though
Based on the replies here it's apparent most people don't understand the concept of *film continuity*. The subject brought up here is more of a continuity issue than anything else. However, many of you can only think just far enough to say "It's only a movie", or "Time machine's don't exist anyway".
The discussion here is the LACK of continuity of this specific part of the movie, not whether or not time machines exist. There is a very clear difference between the two in this case.
1. the lightning stuck the clocktower at 10:04pm....it could have been 10:04 and 13 seconds....10:04 and 51 seconds...or 10:04 exactly..there is no way anyone would know 2. its just a movie and time machines dont exist
The wire was a closed circuit..there was no where for the electricity to go except into the flux capacitor when the hook struck the cable. Delay or not...the 1.21 gigawatts was trapped until it had a place to escape.
There's no loophole. If you traveled back in time to 1955, an alternate reality is created different from the one you left from. If you stayed in 1955, that 2nd reality is where you would simply be. For example, everyone talks about going back in time to kill Hitler b4 the Holocaust. If you did that, and you returned to this reality, Hitler would have still did what he did. If you killed him and stayed, and awaited. A new reality would have emerged.
Rofl with the catch that the earth would've been in a different location in our universe, and Marty would've been zapped into some empty part of outer space. This is why I love Youtube. lol
Great Great movie, i noticed the 'loophole' but cars of the day were slower than the delorean, and doc, being the bumbling foolish genius he is tested the time using a car from 1955, he could hardly have driven the delorean down the street could he! . so in the end it was just luck. loop hole solved. night night. im off to sort out my socks
I don't see what the big problem is, it was calculated to work at a certain speed (probably the speed limit of 40 mph or whatever), so he just gunned it and went as fast as he could.
Doc Brown could have been off in his calulations, the alarm clock isn't terribly accurate- all said before and all perfectly plausible.
The mere fact that Marty was there, could also have changed the moment lightening struck the clock tower. (Granted, though, the butterfly effect would in reality mean the thunderstrom doesn't happen at al, or misses the town completely, or similar.)
It's called SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF! Meaning you're supposed to enjoy the movie for the fact that it's a fictional work not something to be nitpicked an analyzed. You might as well debate whether plutonium and a flux capacitor really make time travel possible. But no one does. It's a movie.
The answer, FATE. Divine providence. Whatever you want to call it. In order not to create the paradox, the divine guardians of this universe or...Fate, however you want to think about it, set actions into motion making it possible for Marty to get back to 1985. Think about how many people report minor miracles or troubles that bought them or took away a few seconds of time which saved their lives or had some other massively important impact which changed their lives forever? Happens all the time
The biggest loop hole in this scene are the spinning rear wheels of the DeLorean. Trust me, I drove a DeLorean for years, and this box is so lame, even on soap, it would never get the rear wheels to spin!
Dude that's not a paradox, there is NO WAY ANY MAN can now the precise time and location a lighting will strike, THIS is also said in the movie, the only reference they had was that it would strike at 10:04, which leaves a 60 second margin of error, which may not seem as much but as a phisicist I can tell you its god damn plenty.
Come on guys, this is a masterpiece, in that case, the entire movie is a mistake, why? becase Marty is traveling throw time, not espace, this means that from a decade to another the arth have been moved to a part of the solar sistem to another, so he will apear in an "empty" part of the universe, and causing Marty's death, considering that the planet have been moving arround. Dont be so Exigent and relax, because for me this is the best fucking movie ever.
Come on guys, this is a masterpiece, in that case, the entire movie is a mistake, why? becase Marty is traveling throw time, not espace, this means that from a decade to another the arth have been moved to a part of the solar sistem to another, so he will apear in an "empty" part of the universe, considering that the planet have been moving arround. Dont be so Exigent and relax, because for me this is the best fucking movie ever.
The error made in the argument here assumes a digital precision on an analog clock. "Precisely" according to Brown, was not actually when it happened. The lightning strike occurred some time after the clock hand moved (as the narrator points out, 12 seconds after), and the delay corrected the start time for Marty's journey to meet the lightning bolt at the exact time. The delay connotes a Hand of God or Providence influence to me.
In BTTF 3, they have to roll the DeLorean on train tracks. The wheels that were fitted to accomplish this were smaller in diameter than the tires on the car. Therefore, they would turn faster and hit 88 MPH sooner on the speedometer. Speedometers are calibrated in part based on wheel size in if you put the wrong size wheels on, the reading isn't accurate. So, it should have jumped time much earlier than the end of track barricade.
Something else: They know the lightning strikes the tower at 10:04pm. However, that still leaves a 60-second window for the instantaneous lightning to strike. Now, bear in mind that Marty is traveling close to or at 88 mph. A car traveling at 60 miles per hour or more covers a distance of 1 mile or more in one minute. That means there's a full mile or more margin of error to deal with for Marty to hit the wire at the same time the lightning is flowing through it. BIG margin for error, I say.
Doc from 1955 clearly wasn't the great scientist he would later be. E.g. He invented the mind reading device which didn't work. Would it not be fair to say his calculations were alittle off and Marty managed to hit it at the exact right point? I'm sure he wouldn't of just thought "Oh, well the alarm clocks gone off and i didn't go, i'm stuck here.. might aswell get it on with Lorraine.
another overlooked loophole is that in 1885, they could've just taken the gas, intact fuel line, and fuel injection manifold from the delorean that stranded doc just a few weeks prior, and used them to get the indian-battle-damaged delorean up & running..
then they could've just left the 'stripped' delorean in the mine (insurance against any paradoxes) for 50's doc to fix later-he'd have access to all those missing parts
@funktronix I thought about what you said years ago... but I thought that they couldn't touch the DeLorean in the mine, because it had to stay there UNTOUCHED to be as it was when Doc and Marty find it in 1955.
Doc's only information about the lightning bolt was that the clock was stopped at 10:04. Doc's calculations were based on the assumption that lightning would strike at exactly 10:04. 1955 Doc was not a very good scientist at that time, it appears. He didn't account for the fact that there are 60 seconds in a minute. So, the lightning struck at exactly 10:04 and twelve seconds. (Something Doc failed to account for, a really huge oversight actually.)
A simple answer is that the Doc had calculated the time based on normal or average acceleration, however since Marty was late, he immediately "floored it." This caused faster acceleration. So the Doc was right in his original calculation, but Marty was right in improvising (by instantly putting the petal to metal when the De Lorean stalled).
The bigger controversy was that, in the driveway, magically Jennifer Parker transforms from Claudia Wells to Elizabeth Shue right before their eyes without either Marty or the Doc noticing... DA DA DA DUMMMMM
As you noticed Marty was using a 3 speed manual. If he had started precisely as the timer went off he would have been fine and not missed the lightning bolt. But because he had a 12 second delay, he started on the second speed because you only see him accelerate twice. Speed two and speed three. So there problem solved: because of delay he started at a quicker speed.
Doc is never wrong. Why do you think he is always saying "precisely".
1) Doc didn't know the average accelleration rate of the DeLorean, 2) he didn't know the top speed of the DeLorean, 3) they didn't know what second the lightning was going to hit, just sometime within a 60 second timeframe, 4) his alarm clock does not have the same accuracy as the clock tower
someone has been a little too mesmerised by their own (lack of) brilliance. as others say, the calcs were off, 12 seconds late just happened to work, or even the possibility that the delorean accelerated harder and faster than the doc had anticipated. theres a bunch of reasons why this could be made to be reasonable..its a movie!..hello! hello mcfly!...im surprised no one mentioned the Doc being the earth for the lightning and it actually never reaching the conductor...
No. No. No. Your missing the point! It was fate. Luck. Or whatever you wanna call it. The big picture if you will. Marty had to be 12 sec. Late to hit the lightning bolt. That's what makes it great. Haven't you done something wrong and said the next day, wow if I had done it the right way thing would of been all fucked up!!!
Remember part 2?? When biff steals the dalorian?? He returns to the future which didn't change for Marty and the doc...when back in biffs 1985 Marty suggested they go back to the future n stop biff from stealing the dalorian n doc tells him they can't and why...so how'd biff go back to the future n nothing changed for anyone?? And then they left jennifer in the biff alternate 1985 n said she'll have no memory of this place... Do you think on some realm Jennifer woke up in a biff 1985 with no1 M
What makes me laugh is that this is a film about a mad scientist who builds a time machine out of a car and yet the time on a clock is what doesn't make sense
Clearly what happened here is the Doc forgot to calculate in the higher performance of the DeLorean using gasoline from 1955 which used tetra-ethyl lead at an anti-knock additive. This resulted in an increase of engine performance. Therefore, the 12 second delay was offset by the increased acceleration speed of the DeLorean. Of course, this is probably garbage as that DeLorean used Bosch K-Jetronic as the fuel system which did not have knock sensors to retard ignition timing during pre-ignition.
if movie was real doc could have calculated wrong,or the clock could have been faulty/not accurate...if it was real the cable that the lighting hits would have been designed differently like maybe a bunch of cables lined up in a row all wired together to compensate for error.i know i would have,even if all calculations were correct,air temp,humidity were compensated all that would have to happen is minor error like spinning the tires and u could be 1 second or 10feet,human error biggest problem
I forget if this can work out. But could the note have given him more detail? And how do people now understand this kind of conversation. It's a puzzle. If it ruins the movie you don't have the mental capacity to enjoy a rock.
@PlatonicPhi And if the main point doesn't work. Try looking at the area in more detail to look at other parts. You know you can change the conversation slightly and discuss more of the film. There are probably lots of interesting parts you can look at.
@PlatonicPhi I'll add something else. The idea of him delaying 12 seconds and slamming on the peddle to compensate works simply. But under other considerations does it not.. Was there anything else that would mess up the view?
@PlatonicPhi false,doc said u would hit 88 when the lighting hits accelerating for the mark in the road.worst thing u can do is spin tires when trying to get from point a to point be in a shortest time and be precise.i drag race alot and can tell u when u spin ur tires off the starting line ur time will be slower and mph faster,,if u dont spin u have faster time and slower mph.u couldnt calculate point a to b unless pedal is to floor 100% to be correct,so human error or clock was bad
I started to ask these very same questions, and think about this loophole. Then, I got my wife to hit me round the face with a wet haddock, and I felt much better. Try it. It worked for me :)
Disagree. First, the movie doesn't tell how doc knew the acceleration speed and top speed of the delorean. Maybe it was faster than he anticipated? Then again, maybe not. Second, if Marty had become stuck in 1955, that would not create a paradox unless he became involved with his mother once again, or altered history for his parents. His life would simply go on.
Let us also not forget that the time of the lightning strike was only approximate. They only knew what minute at which it was supposed to strike. Not the exact second. Perhaps the speeding Delorean helped attract the lightning.
erm, he got his calculations wrong, and as luck would have it, the delay was just right. ITS A MOVIE!! You have a major paradox in your personality!!!!
Well Doc is probably smart enough to figure something like this would happen. He probably used stretchy cable that if marty hit 12 seconds earlier would have stretched until the lightning hit.
The answer is fairly obvious; Doc Brown calculated the timing based upon the position that the clock hands were frozen in. That is how history recorded the exact moment of the lightning strike. Doc could not have known that he would have to SLIDE DOWN the cable that was attached to the clock hands. Doc's own weight pulled the hands back 12 seconds as he slid down.
Yes you are right, this is shocking....shockingly shit! What a waste of my life that I am never going to get back, I would have rather shat razor blades fr 2:49 than watch that
In almost all the films I have seen the "time" going on within the movie does not = the time for us watching the movie; EXAMPLES: The old tv series Voayge to the Bottom of the Sea, ST, among others---it would be nice if the makers of movies, if having a "time period" that either must or must not be meet were = to 'acutal' time but as even in BTTF, it doesn't happen. However, still u do pick up that problem. In the third esp there is a MAJOR PROBLEM that is never mentioned. MORE if u want----
Again, the clock was just a tension builder, and again, Marty would just live his life from 1955, make sure that the timestream remains normal until 1:24 A. M. on October 26, 1985 (provided he would have saved Doc), tell his folks the story, and moved on with his life. Besides, even though the movies were great. Check out the new game videos. There is someone that is even more evil than Biff Tannen.
This isn't a loophole you idiot. It just means that Doc Brown was wrong with his calculation. We know he's a bad scientist from earlier in the movie when his other inventions don't work.
@KisonInc your correct...since i was a kid i knew that this was the answer...beside that, you shouldnt call someone an idiot because of that. Whats the matter with you? This makes you "look" like a douche bag
I don't think so. See, sure he didn't drive off right on when the Clock went off, but the lightning struck the clock tower just before the Time Machine hit the wire. The Electricity was flowing through the wire instantly. Basically what I'm saying is, he had a little leeway. And most importantly, a movie like BTTF can get away with little things like this.
B. Doc had said that his model was not built to scale, so he may have judged the time incorrectly when Marty had to leave.
C. If Marty had been trapped, I believe that he would have just lived his life in 1955, worked with Doc to create the De Lorean in order to stop the paradox that would happen if the machine was not created, and when his teenage self is sent to the past in 1985, resumed his life in 1985 as a 40-year-old with Doc.
You don't understand, in the alternate reality 1985 the Time would be delayed back to the time where Marty comes back into 1985, so it does make sense that the timer from 1985 would be delayed.
wow geta life, its a great movie, who the fuck cares.. ITS A MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yeah um. Or the Doc mis-calculated. rofl. He said he didn't build the original model to scale. He could of based his calculations on the model not thinking about it, as a classically mad scientist would. OR... Maybe Marty counter-acted the 12 second delay, by punching well past 88 mph. It's not always a time paradox bro >_>
This isn't a loophole, it's a plot-hole; pretty much the opposite of a loophole.
Also, this is something we all caught as kids. It's easily spotted and obvious, but it doesn't matter, because the whole solution is predicated upon him hitting a wire in the period of time it is charged by a bolt of lightning, which would be, of course, impossible to calculate anyway.
The LOOPhole to this is that Doc could have miscalculated, or mislead Marty.
From the story we know it was reported that lightning struck at "exactly" a specific time, but in reporting they do not say what SECOND it struck - just the minute. Far more likely is that time would have some sort of self-correcting aspect to it, that the car stalled for exactly 12 seconds to put the car (and Marty) at the correct spot and at the correct time... No controversy - we just invent God to take care of it... :)
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1885, shouldn't there have to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1885, shouldn't there hav to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1985, shouldn't there hav to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
@vlayco33 No can do. Doc's presence in 1885 skewed the time line and there is no longer a De Lorean Time Machine in 1985. Doc buries car in 1885, sends Marty letter. Marty and 1955 Doc fix the car. If Marty goes forward to 1985 he won't find another De Lorean (unless 1955 Doc builds a new one - unlikely because he might create a Universe Ending Paradox). Marty returns to 1885 to save Doc from being shot. Skewed time lines were explained in BTTF Part 2 when old Biff gave young Biff the Almanac.
@vlayco33 If the 1885 De Lorean was interfered with in any way, Marty may never get it in 1955 or be able to use it to get back to 1885 and save Doc. Potential Paradox. Better question ... Kerosene was being refined in 1885. Why didn't Doc track some down and refine it into usable gasoline. He would have had the knowledge to do that. Perhaps there wasn't enough time. Rather ironic if that's the case.
well the loophole to your loophole is if he was on time he wouldnt have hit the gas like that. He would have taken off at a normal speed and then gotten up to 88 mph. But because he was late he took off like a bat from hell and could have easily made up for that 10 second difference. They dont specify how fast he needs to go when he takes off so their isn't really anything wrong with this scene. However there is one HUGE loophole with the DOC.
@mlow38 i'm glad the script writers / directors / producers didn't ... because then we might not have had such a great and entertaining movie ... because had it been in the hands of critics like you, it would've never been made !!
I think the obvious answer is that Doc got the time slightly wrong, and it was a happy accident or divine intervention that the car stalled. Oh, yeah, one more thing...ahem....it's a friggin' movie!!!
Instead of driving up to a speed of 88 mph after takeoff as he was instructed, Marty drove the car at up to 91 mph for 15.11 seconds, then decelerated down to 88 mph for the remainder of the distance to the the wire, thus eliminating the 12 second deficit he started with. He hit the wire at exactly the right moment.
@mlow38 yeah, also, its a 1 and a million chance that you will hit the wire at the time the lightning strikes. what would make the chances more likely is set it up instead of a hook but a bar that looks like a t, and have a wire runnign down the street like a subway. so you would get the lightning strike at any time you are touching the wire. even simpler would be running a giant extension cord into the flux capacitor
@spiffyschmoo Yeah but the flier only gave the time 10:04. How did they get it down to the exact second the lightning strikes. It'd be impossible to calculate wind resistance when the weather didn't even forecast rain until just before the storm. It would have been so much simpler had Marty just connected a long wire from the clock tower into the flux capacitor and drive in circles at 88mph.
he cant get stuck in 1955, he would get old and tell himself to wait 12seconds. the hands on clocks constantly move so it would be easy to work it out. second....ITS A FUCKING FILM
@mlow38 And it's that kind of reasoning that allowed me to believe it within the confines of the film that is how it worked out. It's something that I first noticed as a kid, but later on as an adult started to put the exact same kind of logic that you did. There are too many coincidences in this film to be a simple accident, it was fate for the two of them.
I'd hardly describe this as controversy. Controversy is where you punch a black guy for no reason, or make a remark about someone's religion.
This is just an error.
Gallifrey103 5 months ago
Who knew the exact time the clock got hit, only doc was there and the went by a flier and an old lady telling marty in the begining.... soooo the official record was off... who knows the second historical moments in your towns history.
lucky44124 5 months ago
keeping in spirit of the short video. here is my answer. Docs estimate could have been wrong and if the car was running when the alarm went off. Mary would have been trapped. Past doc has been wrong on a few occasion. like in the 3rd movie. Marty said he will crash into the indians. and doc said they wouldn't be there
devildavin 5 months ago
Pretty much all of Doc's inventions he made in 1955 seemed not to work. I wouldn't be surprised if he had also made a 12-second error in his calculations which Marty ended up avoiding by "luck" :-)
djsixottawa 5 months ago
it wouldn't have caused a paradox, noob.
PerseusLP 5 months ago
Hmm!!!! Who shot JFK? Do you know?
houtexmk15 5 months ago
you don´t get laid very often , right?
MarcalRaul 5 months ago 6
@MarcalRaul I don't either, must be the reason why I'm watching this
kookoo78 5 months ago
WOAAAH this is for the hard core hard core fansss
shattered101 5 months ago 2
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cglize 5 months ago
But, Doc didn't know what second the lightning was going to strike. His math was going under the assumption that the lighting was going to strike at exactly 10:04. But there is a 1 in 60 chance of that happening. Marty was probably lucky that there was the delay, or he would have been to early.
314geekman 5 months ago 4
Get a life. It's a fucking movie.
BreakingGlass77 5 months ago
This whole "loop hole" thing and all that is pure bullshit. Even though movies have to make sense somehow, they also pack certain things to make you grip the seat with your butt, so in this case, the alarm clock thing was a mere psychological game to make the spectator feel like Marty would not be able to make it to the lightning, yet he was able to reach it, causing an "excitement for success" feeling to everyone watching the movie. What a load of cack this video is...
dodgecoronet68 5 months ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHO CARES
gloom2 5 months ago in playlist back to the future
You gotta be shitting me with this "loop hole"
no1pjfan 5 months ago
Here is another question for you, at the dance, what happened to George, that changed him so dramatically that he would punch out a guy for dancing with his date?
That's an important story, yet to be told.
frosted1030 5 months ago
Alright, here's how to close the loophole:
1. The clock tower was struck by lightning at 10:04 PM. That's 1 whole minute, 60 seconds of leeway for failure, mistakes, and so on.
2. The relative acceleration of the delorean would not be a factor Doc could have known, he would have had to guess. There are many factors, like wind resistance, road condition, weight, friction changes due to moisture. Bottom line, Doc could not have calculated these factors precisely.
frosted1030 5 months ago 2
hey asshole, can you lower the price of gas? shut the fuck up!
paladindarknite 5 months ago
did u thnk about the possibilty tht doc misscalculated
BTW6666 5 months ago
its a fucking film dickhead
Jakesamillions 6 months ago
This "loophole" is not an oversight, or controversial.
Look at Marty, just after he gets the engine going at 1:35. He turns suddenly to the clock as if it has JUST rung and goes "Ha!"
Obviously they wrote and shot it such that Marty was racing to get the Delorean going BEFORE the alarm went, and just made it.
It was reworked in the edit. Why? For added drama.
They clearly disregarded the tiny "loophole" in favour of suspense, safe in the knowledge that most people aren't lame enough to care!
greyztone 6 months ago
Heres a loop hole deloreans dont go 88 miles an hour! Making the whole idea of time travel in a delorean impossible if not absurd! But so what it's just a movie, and also being why thanks to you why they will never be a back to the future movie 4, as biff would say, thank you very much.
codehackerzane 6 months ago
WHO GIVES A DAMN?!!!! its an iconic movie, no one watches these movies and looks for mistakes......we love Back to the Future for exactly how it is....you have to much time on your hands sir! Also its a movie!
twistedbutterfly81 6 months ago
He's not late, he decided to go back early (like 10 seconds) to warn Doc about the Libyans, and he only stalled for ten seconds so really he would've got it working at the right moment.
aysheissoonotonfire 6 months ago
I'd like to tie in the notion that the lightning was 12-13 seconds after the minute with one that "the universe" was protecting itself and disabled/enabled the vehicle for the right period of time for things to work out. Then again said universe may prevent time travel altogether. Or....this is how it played out within the alternate "loop" of time created out of the manipulation of and existence in the past and the car malfunctioned every time in the same way in said "loop". good movie though
2010cynic 6 months ago
A) The doc was wrong. B) Marty got lucky.
MikeTrus 6 months ago
Good catch.
Based on the replies here it's apparent most people don't understand the concept of *film continuity*. The subject brought up here is more of a continuity issue than anything else. However, many of you can only think just far enough to say "It's only a movie", or "Time machine's don't exist anyway".
The discussion here is the LACK of continuity of this specific part of the movie, not whether or not time machines exist. There is a very clear difference between the two in this case.
greenrefrigerator 6 months ago
terrible loophole, marty may have started late but he gunned the fuck out of the delorean but really man it is just a movie so enjoy it.
23Revan84 6 months ago
Maybe if he had his foot on the clutch the whole time, the car would have started.
myceejay 6 months ago
1. the lightning stuck the clocktower at 10:04pm....it could have been 10:04 and 13 seconds....10:04 and 51 seconds...or 10:04 exactly..there is no way anyone would know 2. its just a movie and time machines dont exist
smm8855 6 months ago
The wire was a closed circuit..there was no where for the electricity to go except into the flux capacitor when the hook struck the cable. Delay or not...the 1.21 gigawatts was trapped until it had a place to escape.
highguy9900 6 months ago
There's no loophole. If you traveled back in time to 1955, an alternate reality is created different from the one you left from. If you stayed in 1955, that 2nd reality is where you would simply be. For example, everyone talks about going back in time to kill Hitler b4 the Holocaust. If you did that, and you returned to this reality, Hitler would have still did what he did. If you killed him and stayed, and awaited. A new reality would have emerged.
johanlaurasia 6 months ago
Rofl with the catch that the earth would've been in a different location in our universe, and Marty would've been zapped into some empty part of outer space. This is why I love Youtube. lol
Tarwater03 6 months ago
Great Great movie, i noticed the 'loophole' but cars of the day were slower than the delorean, and doc, being the bumbling foolish genius he is tested the time using a car from 1955, he could hardly have driven the delorean down the street could he! . so in the end it was just luck. loop hole solved. night night. im off to sort out my socks
atheistdawn 6 months ago
Cant believe you went to the trouble of making this ridiculous video...You have very little to worry about in life...I envy you....
eob1985 6 months ago
Waste of 2 minutes.
james7300 6 months ago
I don't see what the big problem is, it was calculated to work at a certain speed (probably the speed limit of 40 mph or whatever), so he just gunned it and went as fast as he could.
Distimok 6 months ago
IT'S A FUCKIN MOVIE!!!!!
smonvin 6 months ago 4
well done
oacmre 7 months ago
fuck you
isaacADD 7 months ago
Doc Brown could have been off in his calulations, the alarm clock isn't terribly accurate- all said before and all perfectly plausible.
The mere fact that Marty was there, could also have changed the moment lightening struck the clock tower. (Granted, though, the butterfly effect would in reality mean the thunderstrom doesn't happen at al, or misses the town completely, or similar.)
thelyniezian 7 months ago
It's called SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF! Meaning you're supposed to enjoy the movie for the fact that it's a fictional work not something to be nitpicked an analyzed. You might as well debate whether plutonium and a flux capacitor really make time travel possible. But no one does. It's a movie.
jinggo78 7 months ago 13
@jinggo78 Well said!
voon100 6 months ago
GUYS I FIGURED OUT THE WHOLE THING BEHIND THIS; IT'S A MOVIE!
fecman94 7 months ago 26
Please shut up. You're boring and make this film no fun.
GleeenHD 7 months ago 2
this is dumb. this is for 5 years olds that can't think for themselves
LBB420 7 months ago
The answer, FATE. Divine providence. Whatever you want to call it. In order not to create the paradox, the divine guardians of this universe or...Fate, however you want to think about it, set actions into motion making it possible for Marty to get back to 1985. Think about how many people report minor miracles or troubles that bought them or took away a few seconds of time which saved their lives or had some other massively important impact which changed their lives forever? Happens all the time
N1k1mon 7 months ago
The 12 second delay is the amount of time between the lightning hitting the tower and traveling down the cable to the car. Boom.
callycap3 7 months ago
this guy needs to get laid .......
goinhasII 7 months ago
Someone needs to tell this guy that its "just a movie".... Of course, he might be the type that is still waiting for a hooverboard.
JZOSU1129 7 months ago
Yes that's interesting but I think you're missing an even bigger issue...You have way too much time on your hands. Get a job you Slacker!
Jonwood74 8 months ago
The biggest loop hole in this scene are the spinning rear wheels of the DeLorean. Trust me, I drove a DeLorean for years, and this box is so lame, even on soap, it would never get the rear wheels to spin!
quadraturencoder 8 months ago
Dude that's not a paradox, there is NO WAY ANY MAN can now the precise time and location a lighting will strike, THIS is also said in the movie, the only reference they had was that it would strike at 10:04, which leaves a 60 second margin of error, which may not seem as much but as a phisicist I can tell you its god damn plenty.
KevsterJester42 8 months ago
Come on guys, this is a masterpiece, in that case, the entire movie is a mistake, why? becase Marty is traveling throw time, not espace, this means that from a decade to another the arth have been moved to a part of the solar sistem to another, so he will apear in an "empty" part of the universe, and causing Marty's death, considering that the planet have been moving arround. Dont be so Exigent and relax, because for me this is the best fucking movie ever.
italuiss 8 months ago
@italuiss You, sir, rock
eddieg256 7 months ago
Come on guys, this is a masterpiece, in that case, the entire movie is a mistake, why? becase Marty is traveling throw time, not espace, this means that from a decade to another the arth have been moved to a part of the solar sistem to another, so he will apear in an "empty" part of the universe, considering that the planet have been moving arround. Dont be so Exigent and relax, because for me this is the best fucking movie ever.
italuiss 8 months ago
Hey fuck face, it's a movie. Get over yourself, brainiac.
MrEvillarry 8 months ago
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I think Doc would just have to find a way to steal some plutonium if Marty missed the lightning.
ciccone39 8 months ago
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ciccone39 8 months ago
The error made in the argument here assumes a digital precision on an analog clock. "Precisely" according to Brown, was not actually when it happened. The lightning strike occurred some time after the clock hand moved (as the narrator points out, 12 seconds after), and the delay corrected the start time for Marty's journey to meet the lightning bolt at the exact time. The delay connotes a Hand of God or Providence influence to me.
vegasmovieguy 8 months ago
@vegasmovieguy Exactly. It was done purposely to show that Doc's calculations were not as "precise" as Doc Brown claimed.
fjccommish 8 months ago
In BTTF 3, they have to roll the DeLorean on train tracks. The wheels that were fitted to accomplish this were smaller in diameter than the tires on the car. Therefore, they would turn faster and hit 88 MPH sooner on the speedometer. Speedometers are calibrated in part based on wheel size in if you put the wrong size wheels on, the reading isn't accurate. So, it should have jumped time much earlier than the end of track barricade.
waupunguy 9 months ago
Something else: They know the lightning strikes the tower at 10:04pm. However, that still leaves a 60-second window for the instantaneous lightning to strike. Now, bear in mind that Marty is traveling close to or at 88 mph. A car traveling at 60 miles per hour or more covers a distance of 1 mile or more in one minute. That means there's a full mile or more margin of error to deal with for Marty to hit the wire at the same time the lightning is flowing through it. BIG margin for error, I say.
cicholdebannan 9 months ago
Sigh....
lightfriar 9 months ago
All 1955 Doc would have to do is remember to put an extra plutonium pellet in the trunk of the Delorean on October 26th 1985. PROBLEM SOLVED!
AfterHoursTC 9 months ago
Doc from 1955 clearly wasn't the great scientist he would later be. E.g. He invented the mind reading device which didn't work. Would it not be fair to say his calculations were alittle off and Marty managed to hit it at the exact right point? I'm sure he wouldn't of just thought "Oh, well the alarm clocks gone off and i didn't go, i'm stuck here.. might aswell get it on with Lorraine.
dazzer87 9 months ago
hijazi23q: a gr8 observation, props!
another overlooked loophole is that in 1885, they could've just taken the gas, intact fuel line, and fuel injection manifold from the delorean that stranded doc just a few weeks prior, and used them to get the indian-battle-damaged delorean up & running..
then they could've just left the 'stripped' delorean in the mine (insurance against any paradoxes) for 50's doc to fix later-he'd have access to all those missing parts
ahh, to scrutinize movie logic..
funktronix 9 months ago
@funktronix I thought about what you said years ago... but I thought that they couldn't touch the DeLorean in the mine, because it had to stay there UNTOUCHED to be as it was when Doc and Marty find it in 1955.
terrywest111 9 months ago
whats the controversy? His calculations were off.
Razorokc 9 months ago
Who gives a fuck.
nemonucliosis 9 months ago 4
This is a pointless video and you are a loser for posting CONTROVERSY
timmyctc 9 months ago 2
while that is a good point, doc could have been wrong and the lightning struck at 10:04 and 12 seconds
Aromand 9 months ago
There is a much easier explanation to this.
Doc's only information about the lightning bolt was that the clock was stopped at 10:04. Doc's calculations were based on the assumption that lightning would strike at exactly 10:04. 1955 Doc was not a very good scientist at that time, it appears. He didn't account for the fact that there are 60 seconds in a minute. So, the lightning struck at exactly 10:04 and twelve seconds. (Something Doc failed to account for, a really huge oversight actually.)
amiziko 9 months ago
A simple answer is that the Doc had calculated the time based on normal or average acceleration, however since Marty was late, he immediately "floored it." This caused faster acceleration. So the Doc was right in his original calculation, but Marty was right in improvising (by instantly putting the petal to metal when the De Lorean stalled).
0706823245 9 months ago
The bigger controversy was that, in the driveway, magically Jennifer Parker transforms from Claudia Wells to Elizabeth Shue right before their eyes without either Marty or the Doc noticing... DA DA DA DUMMMMM
dsscam 9 months ago 2
Flaw in your video....he wouldnt be stuck in 1955 forever...
dafspeed 9 months ago 4
As you noticed Marty was using a 3 speed manual. If he had started precisely as the timer went off he would have been fine and not missed the lightning bolt. But because he had a 12 second delay, he started on the second speed because you only see him accelerate twice. Speed two and speed three. So there problem solved: because of delay he started at a quicker speed.
Doc is never wrong. Why do you think he is always saying "precisely".
PCC4102 10 months ago
It's simple. Doc miscalculated. Paradox averted.
evonix4 10 months ago
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this is one of the greatest movies ever made, there I solved the controversy
wachiinn 10 months ago
1) Doc didn't know the average accelleration rate of the DeLorean, 2) he didn't know the top speed of the DeLorean, 3) they didn't know what second the lightning was going to hit, just sometime within a 60 second timeframe, 4) his alarm clock does not have the same accuracy as the clock tower
ACDC7369 10 months ago
someone has been a little too mesmerised by their own (lack of) brilliance. as others say, the calcs were off, 12 seconds late just happened to work, or even the possibility that the delorean accelerated harder and faster than the doc had anticipated. theres a bunch of reasons why this could be made to be reasonable..its a movie!..hello! hello mcfly!...im surprised no one mentioned the Doc being the earth for the lightning and it actually never reaching the conductor...
rcaddict72 10 months ago 2
No. No. No. Your missing the point! It was fate. Luck. Or whatever you wanna call it. The big picture if you will. Marty had to be 12 sec. Late to hit the lightning bolt. That's what makes it great. Haven't you done something wrong and said the next day, wow if I had done it the right way thing would of been all fucked up!!!
joejunior93 10 months ago 2
Remember part 2?? When biff steals the dalorian?? He returns to the future which didn't change for Marty and the doc...when back in biffs 1985 Marty suggested they go back to the future n stop biff from stealing the dalorian n doc tells him they can't and why...so how'd biff go back to the future n nothing changed for anyone?? And then they left jennifer in the biff alternate 1985 n said she'll have no memory of this place... Do you think on some realm Jennifer woke up in a biff 1985 with no1 M
hijazi23q 10 months ago 2
OR... Electricity... When grounded by Doc Brown should have channeled through his body would negate the xfer of energy to the DeLorean...
TheKINGofBMW 10 months ago
@TheKINGofBMW oh snap!!..i just read your post after i wrote mine!..
rcaddict72 10 months ago
WOW... MIND FUCK
TheKINGofBMW 10 months ago
To start a MANUAL Transmission Vehicle.. You MUST DEPRESS the CLUTCH!
TheKINGofBMW 10 months ago
What makes me laugh is that this is a film about a mad scientist who builds a time machine out of a car and yet the time on a clock is what doesn't make sense
wfcsam94 10 months ago
a wizard did it
CountVictorVonScary 10 months ago
Clearly what happened here is the Doc forgot to calculate in the higher performance of the DeLorean using gasoline from 1955 which used tetra-ethyl lead at an anti-knock additive. This resulted in an increase of engine performance. Therefore, the 12 second delay was offset by the increased acceleration speed of the DeLorean. Of course, this is probably garbage as that DeLorean used Bosch K-Jetronic as the fuel system which did not have knock sensors to retard ignition timing during pre-ignition.
KLowD9x 10 months ago 2
@KLowD9x I like your style.
copperkipper1 10 months ago
you idiot, all he did was shift at higher rpm to allow better acceleration.
kenny231189 10 months ago
if movie was real doc could have calculated wrong,or the clock could have been faulty/not accurate...if it was real the cable that the lighting hits would have been designed differently like maybe a bunch of cables lined up in a row all wired together to compensate for error.i know i would have,even if all calculations were correct,air temp,humidity were compensated all that would have to happen is minor error like spinning the tires and u could be 1 second or 10feet,human error biggest problem
peanutbutterisfu 10 months ago
I forget if this can work out. But could the note have given him more detail? And how do people now understand this kind of conversation. It's a puzzle. If it ruins the movie you don't have the mental capacity to enjoy a rock.
PlatonicPhi 10 months ago
@PlatonicPhi And if the main point doesn't work. Try looking at the area in more detail to look at other parts. You know you can change the conversation slightly and discuss more of the film. There are probably lots of interesting parts you can look at.
PlatonicPhi 10 months ago
@PlatonicPhi I'll add something else. The idea of him delaying 12 seconds and slamming on the peddle to compensate works simply. But under other considerations does it not.. Was there anything else that would mess up the view?
PlatonicPhi 10 months ago
@PlatonicPhi false,doc said u would hit 88 when the lighting hits accelerating for the mark in the road.worst thing u can do is spin tires when trying to get from point a to point be in a shortest time and be precise.i drag race alot and can tell u when u spin ur tires off the starting line ur time will be slower and mph faster,,if u dont spin u have faster time and slower mph.u couldnt calculate point a to b unless pedal is to floor 100% to be correct,so human error or clock was bad
peanutbutterisfu 10 months ago
I started to ask these very same questions, and think about this loophole. Then, I got my wife to hit me round the face with a wet haddock, and I felt much better. Try it. It worked for me :)
autopsysal666 10 months ago
OH SHUT UP. Jeez, go butcher a good freaking move you dolt.
MegaVCN 10 months ago
you are very right
jaime8729 10 months ago
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ITS JUST A MOVIE
jonahmoffatt 10 months ago
what about the fact doc brownn made anither time machine....................and it would of been for dramatic tension
Thunda1986 10 months ago
dude, its a movie........a MOVIE....or 'film' in canadian
rformidable 10 months ago
Disagree. First, the movie doesn't tell how doc knew the acceleration speed and top speed of the delorean. Maybe it was faster than he anticipated? Then again, maybe not. Second, if Marty had become stuck in 1955, that would not create a paradox unless he became involved with his mother once again, or altered history for his parents. His life would simply go on.
skrapmetal 10 months ago
Let us also not forget that the time of the lightning strike was only approximate. They only knew what minute at which it was supposed to strike. Not the exact second. Perhaps the speeding Delorean helped attract the lightning.
WonkaVator72 10 months ago
erm, he got his calculations wrong, and as luck would have it, the delay was just right. ITS A MOVIE!! You have a major paradox in your personality!!!!
Powerhous 10 months ago
Well Doc is probably smart enough to figure something like this would happen. He probably used stretchy cable that if marty hit 12 seconds earlier would have stretched until the lightning hit.
WeAreReligious 10 months ago
this thing happens with clock bombs in acttion movies too :)
Vicentems170 10 months ago
The answer is fairly obvious; Doc Brown calculated the timing based upon the position that the clock hands were frozen in. That is how history recorded the exact moment of the lightning strike. Doc could not have known that he would have to SLIDE DOWN the cable that was attached to the clock hands. Doc's own weight pulled the hands back 12 seconds as he slid down.
servospambot 10 months ago 3
Yes you are right, this is shocking....shockingly shit! What a waste of my life that I am never going to get back, I would have rather shat razor blades fr 2:49 than watch that
Jexington80 11 months ago
Who cares?
aeroclaw24 11 months ago
what was the point in this video
fomiz 11 months ago
This guy just isn't thinking 4th dimensionally.
RGraw 11 months ago 2
with spelburg at the wheel, NO PARODOXS ARE SCENE OR HERD,
live it, love it, KNOW IT!
mondoqracker 11 months ago
In almost all the films I have seen the "time" going on within the movie does not = the time for us watching the movie; EXAMPLES: The old tv series Voayge to the Bottom of the Sea, ST, among others---it would be nice if the makers of movies, if having a "time period" that either must or must not be meet were = to 'acutal' time but as even in BTTF, it doesn't happen. However, still u do pick up that problem. In the third esp there is a MAJOR PROBLEM that is never mentioned. MORE if u want----
rangeclerk 11 months ago
Maybe it was the people who made the "save the clock" leaflet that mucked up on the exact timing.
timelord1997 11 months ago
yeah well... he sped up, he made up for it
mooganify 11 months ago
Again, the clock was just a tension builder, and again, Marty would just live his life from 1955, make sure that the timestream remains normal until 1:24 A. M. on October 26, 1985 (provided he would have saved Doc), tell his folks the story, and moved on with his life. Besides, even though the movies were great. Check out the new game videos. There is someone that is even more evil than Biff Tannen.
kkundlas786 11 months ago
This isn't a loophole you idiot. It just means that Doc Brown was wrong with his calculation. We know he's a bad scientist from earlier in the movie when his other inventions don't work.
KisonInc 11 months ago
@KisonInc your correct...since i was a kid i knew that this was the answer...beside that, you shouldnt call someone an idiot because of that. Whats the matter with you? This makes you "look" like a douche bag
Serpico261 11 months ago
maybe there was less wind resistance or better traction than the doc calculated hence making up for the 12 seconds.
1985xl600r 11 months ago
Self repairing timeline. The space time continuum could make slight adjustments in order to prevent paradoxes.
Remember, it wasn't until George kissed Lorraine that the history was repaired. Even though it was eventually going to happen.
shmikex 11 months ago
yea, bla bla bla... Marty and Delorean had to be faster, and they've made it!
fmstyle0 11 months ago
I don't think so. See, sure he didn't drive off right on when the Clock went off, but the lightning struck the clock tower just before the Time Machine hit the wire. The Electricity was flowing through the wire instantly. Basically what I'm saying is, he had a little leeway. And most importantly, a movie like BTTF can get away with little things like this.
jeager1999 11 months ago
Why would this create a paradox? He would be stuck in 1955. So what?
dragonbreathstinks 11 months ago 3
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when it hit the bolt on the clock it stopped and left the clock hands at 10:04 pm
wager42 1 year ago
when it hit the bolt on the clock it stopped and left the clock hands at 10:04 pm
wager42 1 year ago
A. The clock was just a tension builder.
B. Doc had said that his model was not built to scale, so he may have judged the time incorrectly when Marty had to leave.
C. If Marty had been trapped, I believe that he would have just lived his life in 1955, worked with Doc to create the De Lorean in order to stop the paradox that would happen if the machine was not created, and when his teenage self is sent to the past in 1985, resumed his life in 1985 as a 40-year-old with Doc.
D. Cryogenics also.
kkundlas786 1 year ago 20
@kkundlas786 You got a pretty good case and point
Ericson1305 9 months ago
Come on man. Everyone noticed that. Its a tool to build tension.
Leafaeroplanes 1 year ago 2
You don't understand, in the alternate reality 1985 the Time would be delayed back to the time where Marty comes back into 1985, so it does make sense that the timer from 1985 would be delayed.
MrOpalPwns 1 year ago
wow geta life, its a great movie, who the fuck cares.. ITS A MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PureAgainBOF3 1 year ago 4
I always just asumed that Doc's calculations were off. There I solved the problem good night and big balls.
Phazon8058MS 1 year ago 41
@Phazon8058MS
thats what i assumed, too
at the very first time i watched the movie (i was about 6 yo)
the doc was always a bit confused and the time machine was the first thing he invented that actually worked xD
so for me as a six year old it was obvious that his calculations were wrong
@WithoutABass2 absolute nonsense this vid theres no controversy just your one dimensional thinking for movies
SonGoku87 10 months ago
Other people besides me have seen this movie too?
Geert365 1 year ago
that was such a stupid observation.....its a movie butt wipe !!!!!
icemanlux2 1 year ago 2
Well lets thank god Doc brown's calculations were off!
TheKimandKai 1 year ago
Yeah um. Or the Doc mis-calculated. rofl. He said he didn't build the original model to scale. He could of based his calculations on the model not thinking about it, as a classically mad scientist would. OR... Maybe Marty counter-acted the 12 second delay, by punching well past 88 mph. It's not always a time paradox bro >_>
spiffyschmoo 1 year ago
WTF Are you serious with this shit?? Fucking retard.
retorq 1 year ago
This isn't a loophole, it's a plot-hole; pretty much the opposite of a loophole.
Also, this is something we all caught as kids. It's easily spotted and obvious, but it doesn't matter, because the whole solution is predicated upon him hitting a wire in the period of time it is charged by a bolt of lightning, which would be, of course, impossible to calculate anyway.
The LOOPhole to this is that Doc could have miscalculated, or mislead Marty.
razioak 1 year ago
or.......doc could have been wrong on his calculations .
draggt03 1 year ago
Ok, ignore this is fantasy and just fun...
From the story we know it was reported that lightning struck at "exactly" a specific time, but in reporting they do not say what SECOND it struck - just the minute. Far more likely is that time would have some sort of self-correcting aspect to it, that the car stalled for exactly 12 seconds to put the car (and Marty) at the correct spot and at the correct time... No controversy - we just invent God to take care of it... :)
dstidolph 1 year ago
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Interesting.
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1885, shouldn't there have to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
vlayco33 1 year ago
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Interesting.
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1885, shouldn't there hav to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
vlayco33 1 year ago
Interesting.
Buth third part has a bigger mistake. If Mart& Doc in 1955 found time machine-car in the mine cave, and marty goes back to 1985, shouldn't there hav to be the other one (the one doc come there with)?
So they could take fuel from that original and put it to the 1955 (repaired) one :D
vlayco33 1 year ago
@vlayco33 No can do. Doc's presence in 1885 skewed the time line and there is no longer a De Lorean Time Machine in 1985. Doc buries car in 1885, sends Marty letter. Marty and 1955 Doc fix the car. If Marty goes forward to 1985 he won't find another De Lorean (unless 1955 Doc builds a new one - unlikely because he might create a Universe Ending Paradox). Marty returns to 1885 to save Doc from being shot. Skewed time lines were explained in BTTF Part 2 when old Biff gave young Biff the Almanac.
flash999999999 1 year ago
@vlayco33 If the 1885 De Lorean was interfered with in any way, Marty may never get it in 1955 or be able to use it to get back to 1885 and save Doc. Potential Paradox. Better question ... Kerosene was being refined in 1885. Why didn't Doc track some down and refine it into usable gasoline. He would have had the knowledge to do that. Perhaps there wasn't enough time. Rather ironic if that's the case.
flash999999999 1 year ago
dude, this is dumb... its called " fantasy"... get a life...
djicenova 1 year ago
well the loophole to your loophole is if he was on time he wouldnt have hit the gas like that. He would have taken off at a normal speed and then gotten up to 88 mph. But because he was late he took off like a bat from hell and could have easily made up for that 10 second difference. They dont specify how fast he needs to go when he takes off so their isn't really anything wrong with this scene. However there is one HUGE loophole with the DOC.
phxsuns480 1 year ago
GET A LIFE YOU DICK!!!
vincecochlin 1 year ago
GET A LIFE U DICK!!!!!
vincecochlin 1 year ago
@mlow38 i'm glad the script writers / directors / producers didn't ... because then we might not have had such a great and entertaining movie ... because had it been in the hands of critics like you, it would've never been made !!
originaljawz 1 year ago
I think the obvious answer is that Doc got the time slightly wrong, and it was a happy accident or divine intervention that the car stalled. Oh, yeah, one more thing...ahem....it's a friggin' movie!!!
MckyMseNTarotCrds 1 year ago
@mlow38 - great scott!
TheDoctorFan2009 1 year ago
THIS IS FUCKIN LAME!@*&(&*(#
andyandlou 1 year ago
I can settle this rather easily....
Instead of driving up to a speed of 88 mph after takeoff as he was instructed, Marty drove the car at up to 91 mph for 15.11 seconds, then decelerated down to 88 mph for the remainder of the distance to the the wire, thus eliminating the 12 second deficit he started with. He hit the wire at exactly the right moment.
....Case closed.
Davedio 1 year ago
@mlow38 yeah, also, its a 1 and a million chance that you will hit the wire at the time the lightning strikes. what would make the chances more likely is set it up instead of a hook but a bar that looks like a t, and have a wire runnign down the street like a subway. so you would get the lightning strike at any time you are touching the wire. even simpler would be running a giant extension cord into the flux capacitor
tigerboy1227 1 year ago 4
@tigerboy1227 You found the solution : less spectacular, but more believable.
lexcalvin 1 year ago
@tigerboy1227 lol. it wasn't a one in a million chance, they knew exactly when the lightning struck the tower. It was on the flier.
spiffyschmoo 1 year ago
@spiffyschmoo Yeah but the flier only gave the time 10:04. How did they get it down to the exact second the lightning strikes. It'd be impossible to calculate wind resistance when the weather didn't even forecast rain until just before the storm. It would have been so much simpler had Marty just connected a long wire from the clock tower into the flux capacitor and drive in circles at 88mph.
bandwicker 1 year ago 2
@bandwicker the doc said the flier stated "PRECISELY 10:04"
spiffyschmoo 1 year ago
I wish I could get home to 1985.
WebVMan 1 year ago
Doc calculated wrong asswipe.
spicymagazine 1 year ago
ok... so the doc's calculation was wrong by 12 seconds :DDD
icesyncer 1 year ago
he cant get stuck in 1955, he would get old and tell himself to wait 12seconds. the hands on clocks constantly move so it would be easy to work it out. second....ITS A FUCKING FILM
dafspeed 1 year ago
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Or, he could have accelerated FASTER THAN 88mph making up for the time he lost (his instruction was accelerate TO 88mph).
Or, this film is so full of holes that debating them all would ruin the fun. ;-)
indiehouse 1 year ago
@mlow38 And it's that kind of reasoning that allowed me to believe it within the confines of the film that is how it worked out. It's something that I first noticed as a kid, but later on as an adult started to put the exact same kind of logic that you did. There are too many coincidences in this film to be a simple accident, it was fate for the two of them.
IronMan3582 1 year ago