I think evolution is true , controlled by our Heavenly Father . Don't waste your time trying to convince these people about Heavenly Father , they know he is there . They are just wasting your time . Spend your time doing good for others that need it , there is no such thing as atheism , nobody is that stupid .
I like to know what the Atheist Master Plan is. Do not tell me the AOA and FFRF are going to put up sign calling people Stupid. And if they do it long enough Then one day Everyone In the World Will Magically be turned into Atheist and on that day there will be raining lollipop and bubble gum. And all the animals will live together in peace and harmony. Im sorry but as a Agnostic i dont believe in your little wet dream. Its your right to be a Asshole. But it isnt very wise to be one to everybody.
Whats his problem? Has the existence of Christians ever made the world a lesser lovely place to be in? If anything, it is the existence of people like him who go out doing stuff like this.
If atheists don't believe In God why do they attack Christianity.Others believe in different gods.So you have alot of work on your hands.Of Course Jesus Is The True God.But budda billboard,muhammad,krisna,lochnest monster,godzilla,kale,etc.lol
@AlbertEinstien18 probably because there is truth in Christianity they would prefer hidden and unknown... they try to create some sort of shadow of doubt over what is real. You see anyone going at such great lengths to create such shadow over Krishna or anyone else? makes you wonder doesn't it... =)
Mr Jew is bullshitting us. It is called 'Christmas'. It does not matter one bit that it used to be a pagan celebration. What names we use for things does matter. Christmas needn't be a religious holiday if you are an atheist. I am an atheist and I celebrate it. Attacking the bame of the holiday necessarily attacks the tradition itself and seeks to take away identity from something that is part of the Western cultural heritage. No, it is not some generic 'holiday'. It is Christmas.
@soccerlvr402 People seem to like definitive answers. It's much more comforting, I guese you could say, that there either is or is not a god then a maybe... Just my thought on it.
What I hate about atheists is that they say that there is no God and that that is a fact. You guys can not prove that there is no God, and I don't want people saying that I can't prove that there is a God because I never said that I could. I won't whine about you guys, so leave others alone
How can a human who is so unimaginably minute compared to the size of this universe, and so unbelievabley young compared to age of this universe, ever claim they have the answer to such a broad question? I point that at Christians and Atheists both. Religion is a wall, a sports team, a gang, and a social fucking policy. Look at the civil effects of the religious establishment your parents put you in and ask yourself, does this progress my species further? Or does it burn new ideas at the stake?
Why don't you take that proof to, oh I dunno, a SCIENTIST? PS, you'd be the FIRST with proof of a god....
"while you just ask questions in addition to your senseless insults"
Sounds like a senseless insult on atheists there. So YOU get to do and say whatever you want, while we have to be respectful? ha ha I think not, pussy!
@Gupitor Religion are rules to live by Muslim Christian Jewish ect basically say the same thing you don't need to believe in heaven to be a good person heaven exists first only in the mind and secondly only to turn bad people into good people I believe in the messages of religion not entirely the whole story religion is not a bad thing, its the people who use it and abuse it that are bad .e.g every presidential adders in america is ended with God bless (proof of abuse of religion)
if he is the president then they are in bad shape lol. Christmas is not Christmas cause an atheist says so? i think the Christians have the atheists badly outnumbered and it is their holiday and always will be despite ignorant, jealous, foolish , misguided, and disturbed peoples opinions. enough said.
@mrtundra45 The difference is that science can be proved right. Scientific theories are based on fact and exploration in detail, whereas ALL religions are based on unfalsifiable hypothesis, where no one can actually prove or disprove that a God exists. Of course, there could be a flying spaghetti monster that no one can prove actually exists or doesn't exist as well.
Here is a little history lesson for you christians who may be confused that he is referring to this as solstice. Christmas was was decreed to be celebrated on December 25 by pope Julius I in the year 350AD. Does it surprise and shock you that Christmas did not become official until over 300 years after christ's alleged death? Next question: How many books of the Bible did Jesus write? Answer: None! This great teacher could not even leave behind a personally written manifesto for his flock!
Actually no one knows Jesus' actual date of birth. Some say it was September or something. Christians chose to celebrate Jesus' birth on the winter solstice because it's a great way to celebrate Christ's birth at the end of the year. Same reason why we chose to celebrate his resurrection in the spring solstice.
he makes atheists look bad. I don't want to make fun of christians or argue with them. let them believe what they want to, and we can believe in nothing. who cares if there is or isn't a god? does that really change anything?
@LBPThe2nd You're not even understanding the point, he's not making fun of christians or arguing. He's calling out lawbreakers who are sympathized by the public. He specifically stated this, it is not he that makes atheists look bad. It's the ignorant idiots like you that do.
@LBPThe2nd So at what point would you draw the line? If you don't standup or stop the kid that pushes another kid, next thing he'll be taking money, then beating up etc
Apathy is the problem - it allows the bullying to continue. The USA has a secular founding - that is what made it great in the first place, not the totalitarianism of a theocratic government, which dictates how you must live your life.
Allowing such practices to continue is a step back to the dark ages.
The word holiday stems from Holy Day. I would chose a better term than Happy Holy Days, or Merry Christ mas. Since it is a pagan ritual, would chose to say Season's Greetings... Season's being the Autumn/Winter Solstice.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth the earth was without for or void. Darkness was over the face of the deep. and the spiirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said "let there be light" not science, not by any theory,not by any planet of the apes, and not by any humans cause knowbody existed before God. Humans cannot create themselves again 0+0=0 dumbass atheists
@MegaSaginaw We have string theory, the big bang, evolution, etc. on our side. All of them are supported by evidence (mathematical and empirical). What proof do you have for the existence of God?
If you are atheist then u belive something can be created from nothing how dumb does that sound.. people dont want to Belive in GOD cause they afraid of the truth..
they have no proof for what they belive in. GOD created us all is the only explanation why we are here. I Challenge any atheist to prove me wrong. show me show me show some proof.
@MegaSaginaw Do your research, begin with the big bang understand what it is and The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe, understand its research. Once you understand the beginning of the known universe start to research the formation of our solar system and from there the beginning of life on our planet from the Primordial Soup Theory. Continue with Evolutionary Theory. And NO Theory does not mean the same thing as Hypothesis! Learn the FACTS, saying God created us is in days is insulting.
@MegaSaginaw If you are religious u believe something can be created by an invisible supernatural omnipotent being, do you know how dumb that sounds?... people don't want to reject GOD because they are afraid of the truth.
they have no proof for what they believe in. GOD did not create us, science is the only explanation for why we are here. I Challenge any religious person to prove me wrong. Show me show me show some proof.
Atheist's have been against religious holidays forever. The only difference is now Theists are finding out there's more of us out there than they thought (Thanx interweb) and religious assholes can't dismiss us as hellbent nuts anymore. We are Legion, for we are many. And I bet there are MILLIONS of Theists going through the motions because of a misguided sense of loyalty and fear. WAKE UP SHEEPLE! Religion is slavery.
@TheCrimsonification "Religion is slavery" I really wish atheist would stop generalizing religion to mean the mono theistic religions. There are lot of very freeing religions that are not meant to enslave people like Christianity and Islam. Buddhists for example, do you believe they are being enslaved by there faith? Religion and faith are not the enemy, its intolerance and close minded thinking that is the enemy, you can be religious and a free thinker at the same time.
@Fireflygamer ALL religion is slavery. Ther is absolutely NO PROOF for a god of any kind of any faith. Buddism is Naturalism. No "God". Religions in all it's forms and beliefs is mass indoctrination using fear and intimidation to ENSLAVE their sheeple. The Bibblit is pagiarized lies. Jesus is the stolen story of Horus and Christmas is a Pagan holiday.Stolen by Christanity to assimilate Druids and Egyptian followers with more lies.
@TheCrimsonification "Religions in all it's forms and beliefs is mass indoctrination using fear and intimidation to ENSLAVE their sheeple." I would agree organized religions especially the mono theisms do so. I know that the story of Jesus is stolen form the story of hours and christmas is a pagan holiday, I AM PAGAN. Just because the abrahamic religions are used to "enslave" people it dose not mean all religions do so, some religions have next to no doctrine and encourage
... you to think for yourself, I for example am a solitary witch, I do not believe in gods as you think or magic as you would describe it. I have no need to explain my view to you or to convert you. Through meditation and self study i come up with my own views, my own opinions. I am sure you think it is all bullshit and that is fine, I encourage you to think for yourself, but to lump people like me in with people like Christians as enslaved to a doctrine is just not accurate.
@Fireflygamer There is no way to be a free thinker and be religious. All your thoughts are pre-thought for you. Just regurgitate a Bibblit passage from time to time and everything is a-ok. Just don't question it. And again...ALL RELIGION IS SLAVERY.
@TheCrimsonification "There is no way to be a free thinker and be religious. All your thoughts are pre-thought for you." like i said i am a solitary witch, which means I think for myself, I will not just blindly follow what a holy book tells me, I write my own holy book as I travel on a path of self discovery. you seem to think the only religion out there is the organized religions with there written in stone doctrine and intolerance of other ideas. its not the only kind.
this atheist is making no sense, He states he believes in no God at all, but his very last sentence said that there were many gods. contradictory right there, get your facts straight. --- there may not be proof for the God, but there isn't proof for no God either. I like this video because it's proving that this man keeps making up an excuse to get a point across, but it's only making the situation worse.
Christmas was originally a pagan celebration. The Catholics said that Christmas was the birth of Jesus and that they should celebrate it, in order to entice the pagans to convert over to them. It's no more a Christian Holiday than Halloween.
they don't know the date plan and simple the wicked ruler nimrod was born on dec 25th fact so christmas might be a pegon holiday but who cares its brings people together but you can't say that jesus exsist because we have no proof we can't trust bibles writin by kings or rewritin by other people without data if we get proof then fine but don't argue if there are no facts all holidays have some old meaning to them but just celebrate them as people not what religion u are
as an atheist i want to say that this guy is an attention seeking, slightly immoral, bigot. he is fighting a useless war and nobody wnats those signs anyway. if every atheist were like him, we as a group would be hated. stop dicking around, because i, other atheists and believers alike enjoy the holidays and we don't want them to be interrupted by a bonerkill such as yourself.
Good video. I would say Silverman did a good job presenting his reason for the billboard and, this is a truly a first, Fox News actually allowed a guest they disagree with to speak his full opinion!
1) He asserts that "religion stole" the winter solstice holiday, yet that "the season belongs to everyone." Does "everyone" include Christians? - and may not Christians choose WHAT to celebrate, just like anyone else?
2) "Christianity is the main offender" he says, as if secular parties & Santa Claus can hardly compete. That's not reality.
3) Christians are warring to ban the phrase "Happy Holidays"? GASP!!!! BRING ON THE DUCT TAPE! GAG ALL CHRISTIANS! :) Get a grip, David.
@tamething1 Are you retarded or something? He's not singling out Christians at all, he's saying under "the freedom of religion" no one religion should dominate and put priority over themselves. And Christians are mainly targeted because they fight against everything, if another religion does something that conflicts with their religion then Christians will protest, but on the flipside if Christians are the offenders then it is alright. FYI Christmas was/is a Pagan holiday, not Christian
@ItaughtKobe23 You say "Christmas was/is a Pagan holiday." That's incorrect. Christmas, specifically, is the celebration of Christ's birth, and it is not made any less Christian by any pagan celebrations preceding it. The date/season is irrelevant: One cannot "steal" a time of year.
1:21 - 1:43 he calls Christians "the main offenders" in a "war" which "Christians started". Yeah, no anti-Christian bias there.
@tamething1 I hate arguing with you religious nuts because YOU ALWAYS THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, and your not, not in the slightest. But before this turns into a flame war that ever ends I'm throwing in the towel. Now you can wake up with your head held high tomorrow thinking you accomplished something. And in 2-5 years from now when church starts falling apart and you're protesting the athiests are "stealing" your worshipers away, just remember back to this moment. Because your at the P.O.N.R.
@tamething1 Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. Jesus was given the Dec. birthdate long after the bible was written. If you you go by the bible, Jesus should have been born in August. He was given Dec. 25 to coincide with the pre-existing pagan holiday. Same thing with his death, they gave it that day to coincide with the pagan holiday, Ester.
@streetmentalist No, since either God has parent's hence could not be God, just creator, OR he's God and by definition eternal AND creator. One is logical and one isn't. If God had parent's, then he is REQUIRED to be physical, and since atheists little brain can't grasp anything outside of the natural then they have problems with God being eternal.
To add on, Christmas IS a Christian holiday; and I'm not saying that ONLY Christians should observe it. Christmas represents the birth of Christ, not a Pagan Ritual.
@gowolves4 Yet they stole the date of the Pagan Holiday in order to get more Romans to be accepting of Christianity. This started out as Christians being oppressed, and the point of the sign is to point out the fact that now they have become the oppressors.
@gowolves4 Research Yule and Samhain. Both are pagan rituals and festivals that were celebrated by the Celtic and Scandinavian pagans before the mass Christianization of Europe. Christianity stole the traditions of pagans and made them their own.
@Zodiacrin The mass "Christianization" of Europe came by way of the Roman Catholic, in fact the Roman Catholic stemmed from mixing New Age occultism with Christianity, it's mentioned that scenario took place in Rome and Greece. The Roman Catholic church stole pagan traditions, it's mentioned in the Bible. That isn't true Christianity.
@Christistruth1 "That isn't true Christianity" is always the excuse that protestants use. The fact remains that they fly the banner of Christianity just like you do. Of course it has evolved, but your beliefs are too similar for you to attempt to claim independence.
@Zodiacrin I'm not protestant. In fact, if you want to know what TRUE Christianity is, real the New Testament, it TOTALLY contradicts the Roman Catholic Church. ;) Go study it for 17yrs like I did. They fly A BANNER and CLAIM to be Christian. I can call myself a carrot that doesn't mean I'm a carrot. You don't know my beliefs at all, you would have to know ALL my beliefs to know that they were ALL similar. This is dumb.
@Christistruth1 Just because an incorrect book contradicts an incorrect group does not mean that you are not incorrect. And you are. If Christ is truth, as your name so boldly states, then why can no truth be found in his apparently holy book? Truth, and things that are true, are found through study and scientific evidence. If we take, for instance, your statement: "I am a carrot.", study your composition and genetic makeup, we can see that you are indeed no carrot. "This book is the truth." is
@Christistruth1 also testable. Merely take all of the facts from said book and find evidence that proves it true. Presently, we have found no evidence that everything in The Holy Bible is true. Therefore, we can not accept that the book as a whole is true. Until we find evidence for things, there is no need to believe in them. There is no evidence for God, and claiming he exists does not make it so.
@Zodiacrin By your reasoning: Presently, we have no evidence that everything you say is true. Therefore, we cannot accept that what you say is true. Until we find evidence for Zodiacrin, there is not need to believe in Zodiacrin. Printed words in cyberspace do not constitute evidence, to those who want none.
@tamething1 My point exactly. I may not be who I claim to be. My entire cause and existence may be a lie. Likewise, the existence of truth in the Holy Bible may not be what it claims to be and its entire cause and existence may be a lie. Until it is proven to be true, it must be considered untrue.
@Zodiacrin Okay, today I've been under the weather, so I'm just letting these go, but when I read this..."Presently, we have found no evidence that everything in the Holy Bible is true." That's a load of lies, you know it!! You've proven that you're dishonest.
Last time I checked, the majority of Congressmen believe in some sort of religion, and last time I read the Constitution it said that the consent of the majority will be followed. And this billboard is just a dick move.
@gowolves4 It also stated a separation of church and state. I also think billboards that say "Merry Christmas, not Happy Holidays" were propagated by a "dick move".
It seems like Atheists do have an agenda, it seems like they do have "prophets" it seems like they want to change the worlds world view. This is interesting...they hypocrisy.
@urcorrect I never said I didn't have an agenda, did I? No. There's no stereotyping here, this guy admits it. He in fact, has an agenda, and so does the American Atheist Org...Also, if I asked you would you like to live in a world where people gave up their religions and the world became an atheists, you would probably say yes. If I asked you if you would like to participate in making that a possibility, would you do it???
@Christistruth1 Saying atheists have an agenda, have prophets, want to change the world's views, and are hypocritical is stereotyping. Qualifying 'some' atheists, or specifying the American Atheist Organization is not stereotyping. Would I like people to become atheists? Only if comprehension leads them to such a conclusion. If people have good, complete information and sound processes behind their beliefs, why should I want them to change? Would I participate in education? Absolutely.
@urcorrect Yes, by definition, atheists have prophets. Prophet: an effective or leading spokesman for a cause, doctrine, or group. It's not stereotyping, it's true, he admits this. "If people have good, complete information and sound process behind their beliefs, why should I want them to change?" Is this something you believe Christians have??? "Would I participate in educations? Absolutely." I never said anything about education, I said would you participate in making it possible to convert?
@Christistruth1 No, by definition atheists don't believe in deities. You're implying that atheism has a cause, doctrine, or group; it does not. You did, in fact, stereotype. I don't believe anything about christians and don't pretend to know what information their beliefs are built on. My answer to your conversion question necessitated an implication of education in my answer to your participation question. I simply made it explicit for purposes of clarity. I assert nothing about the religious.
@urcorrect You don't have to have a deity, there is NOWHERE that says a deity MUST be included. So wrong there. It does have a cause you admitted it. It has a group American Atheist Org. It has a doctrine, did you NOT SAY..."Would I participate in education? Absolutely." Doctrine means to "educate." Doctrine: A belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group.**** Okay so you're avoiding my question. Why would you educate them? They are educated.
@Christistruth1 lol that's the point; deities are not included. Atheism is the disbelief of a god or gods (gods == deities, in case you're confused). I did not admit atheism has a cause. The American Atheist Organization does not represent atheism but a group OF atheists, just as a denomination does not represent christianity but a group OF christians. Regardless of which definition for doctrine you use, none are inherent in atheism. If you disagree, then what are the doctrines? Just name a few.
@urcorrect That's right, you can have prophets without deities. Atheism is the disbelief based on reason that there is no God to believe in. I never said atheism had a cause, you're misinterpreting what I said. A cause, Cause: A goal or principle served with dedication and zeal. Atheism has a cause, I.E. GOAL. LOLOLOL, IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ATHEISM BUT A GROUP OF ATHEISTS, wow talk about playing semantics here, LOLOLOL. How pathetic. cont.....
@Christistruth1 "I never said atheism had a cause, you're misinterpreting what I said." "Atheism has a cause, I.E. GOAL." You are awarded zero points for consistency. Now, from what, in the definition, do you derive a cause/goal? Atheism; disbelief of a god or gods. Disbelief; inability or refusal to accept something as true.
You referenced a specific organization as though it represented all atheists and I corrected you. If you don't make inaccurate statements, I won't 'play semantics'.
@urcorrect There are MEANINGS of the word "Cause". The cause I am using is...: "the cause of freedom versus tyranny". Sorry kiddo, I am consistent, it just went over your tiny little head there. "Atheism: The doctrine that there is no God or gods." Picking and choosing definitions are we?? Your disbelief doesn't prove anything. ;) It represents the atheist philosophy. No, you picked and choose your definition. You play semantics regardless.
@urcorrect cont....Group: A number of individuals or things considered together because of similarities. Therefor it is a GROUP, in that sense as I was referring to. "What are the doctrines?" What do you believe? Name them and there's your doctrine.
@Christistruth1 Okay, in that sense it's a group, and the only 'attribute' that encompasses all atheists is a lack of belief in deities, which means there is no inherent doctrine. A group of atheists tied together by any ideas is a subgroup, and cannot represent all atheists. This shouldn't be difficult to understand.
"What do you believe?" Nothing I believe is contingent upon atheism.
Yes I promote education. Wtf do you mean "your education"? And no, I don't want to convert people.
@urcorrect Sure there is an inherent doctrine, if Atheism is inherent...i.e. babies are born atheists. Oh I see, you're trying to distance yourself from those who claim a doctrine, so that you can validate your point. I see. "Nothing, I believe is contingent upon atheism." Bull, of course it's contingent upon your atheism, were debating our beliefs here because of it. "No, I don't want to convert people." Sure you do, if not why educate them?? To change their mind?
@Christistruth1 I didn't say anything about genetic inheritence. I'm talking about the heirarchy within the meaning of the word atheism. A lack of belief in gods does not necessarily include a belief in a lack of gods, but the latter does imply the former. Therefore, no beliefs/doctrine are, or can be inherited from the most general sense of the word. Yes, this is semantics. Semantics are important; it's how we determine meaning. I'm not cherry picking definitions, I'm explaining your errors.
@urcorrect No, son, you're cherry picking definitions. Here's why, if you agree that there is no God, or God doesn't exist, that IS A POSITIVE CLAIM, and you ARE REQUIRED to prove it. You can't, so you take the cowardly position of broadening the definition, to just mean you don't believe. Therefor ridding yourself of the burden of proving the positive claim that there is no God. You will deny it, because you must. And yet you KNOW I'm right.
@Christistruth1 Here is why you are wrong, and why your comment is a straw man fallacy; I don't agree that there is no god, or that a god doesn't exist. I've made no such claim. The positive claim that no gods exist is ridiculous. I don't need to broaden the definition of atheism. A few of many sources:
Collins English Dictionary Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009
Oxford Dictionaries April 2010
en wikipedia org wiki atheism (take special note of positive vs negative section)
@urcorrect Sure you believe there is no God, you just won't admit it. Why won't you admit it? Because then you would need to prove it. That is a positive claim, because you are making a claim that there IS no God. Yes, you do broaden the definition of Atheism. Sorry, Wikipedia is never taken seriously in any college course. "Now piss off." Is that your best shot? lol
@Christistruth1 Are you going to argue with dictionaries too? I don't believe "that there IS no god", and I never have. Why don't you admit to the fallacies you commit? Making an argument for me and then attacking it = straw man. Maintaining wikipedia is incorrect because colleges don't like it as bibliographical reference = appeal to authority. Dismissing the cases which contradict your claim = cherry picking. Positing belief gods exist and belief of the contrary as a dichotomy = false dilema.
@urcorrect No, I'm not, I'm not an atheist. Sure you believe that, you just won't admit it, and if you truly don't, then you're not an atheist, you're agnostic. I have not committed a fallacy. No, I'm pointing out your true position that you are either dishonestly covering up, OR you aren't really an atheist, but an agnostic. Colleges don't like it as any source period. None of my science professors, and literary professors allow it as a valid source. You are cherry picking definitions.
@Christistruth1 I didn't say I was an atheist or state a belief, so you can NOT deny your straw man fallacy. My statements have been inclusive of all definitions for atheism (with dictionary references), so you're the one cherry picking. Atheist and agnostic are not necessarily mutually exclusive terms. Colleges don't like wiki citations; I agreed with that. Dismissing wiki information based on that is still an appeal to authority fallacy. Believing and believing not is still a false dichotomy.
@urcorrect Watch this, lol, are you an atheist???? lol I'm not cherry picking, I'm using the whole definition, not part of it, while atheism is the disbelief, it's by way of an assertion that there is no God. Belief and disbelief, always comes by reasons. Refer to my video watch?v=b4DmWcAi7vE
@Christistruth1 You can lol all you want, but I showed you your fallacies and you can't defend yourself against the accusations. Am I an atheist? Not by the definition you cherry picked. "There is no god" is an assertion; unfortunately for you, disbelief does not require an assertion. Disbelief "the inability or refusal or reluctance to believe something as true" (dictionary com). And to hopefully shut you up, "lack of faith in something" (oxforddictionaries com). I'm done with you.
@urcorrect I have no fallacies. Ah, but you ARE an atheist, and regardless of the definition I picked, because it's still accurate, you're cherry picking definitions, because they are not different definitions, the word Atheist doesn't mean different things. Sure disbelief requires an assertion, if not, then there would be no disbelief. The second part of dictionary com, is the doctrine that there is no God. Son, you've been done a long time ago. ;)
@Christistruth1 Really?! lmfao! You don't know how to use a dictionary?! Those are separate definitions; that's why each is given a separate number. Have fun playing with your bag of fallacies and arguing with dictionaries. Your arguments have been thoroughly destroyed. Deal with it.
@urcorrect No, you don't, atheism doesn't have multiple meaning like other words. No, you haven't destroyed my argument, only in your imagination kiddo.
@urcorrect Nope, I added the truth. You need to stop accusing me of fallacies to prove your point, when you KNOW I haven't used fallacies. The TRUTH is the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states that Atheism is the claim that there is no God or gods.
@Christistruth1 You're guilty of them, as I explained. If you don't understand that, go back over the conversation and research the logical fallacies. Once again, appealing to a source which fits your argument, while dismissing other legitimate sources (which I cited) because they don't fit your argument, is cherry picking. Numbering in dictionaries denotes multiple definitions of a word; not applying this to one word (so it fits your argument) as you would to any other is special pleading.
@urcorrect Nope, again, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states that atheism is the claim that there is no God. Nope, I'm coming from an education source. I cited some too, dictionary(.) com, states that atheism is a doctrine that there is no God, so does Websters. You're disagreeing with them because they don't fit yours, and?? You live in a glass house buddy. Look stop begging and pleading your case, because you have none, you're trying to broaden the meaning, stop being dishonest.
@Christistruth1 I'm not disagreeing with those sources, but you are disagreeing with mine and many others. Need I remind you that it was I who directed you to dictionary com to show you there's more than one definition for atheism? And you still cherry pick. What's this about a glass house? Comparing your fallacies to my lack thereof, and my claims being supported by both our citations, it's clear I'm not the dishonest one. lol You even complain about my channel to distract from your failure.
@urcorrect Need I remind you you're picking and choosing, because disbelief comes by way of the belief there is no God. Even Agnostics disbelieve, but do not make a claim, now you're saying atheists are the same thing? You've broadened the definition to include agnosticism. You are dishonest, why not stand for the true claim of what atheism is?? You won't, because you know it's a positive claim that you're not prepared to take on, but want to be part of this "enlighten" atheism.
@Christistruth1 It's pathetic to say I'm picking and choosing definitions when my statements were inclusive of them all. Disbelief (once again) does not necessitate a belief contrary to the rejected proposition. No, I'm not saying agnostic and atheist are the same thing, but (once again) I'm saying they're not mutually exclusive. You can't accuse me of altering definitions, since I included citations; your issue is with those sources. Why are you trying to label me as an atheist?
@urcorrect Okay, agnosticism, and atheism both withhold belief. So which one are you? If you say both...so you're an atheist and agnostic and withhold belief? But they BOTH withhold belief, what makes one different from the other??? You're either agnostic and don't know whether God exist, hence really can't argue against a theist. Or you're an atheist who claims there is no God.
@Christistruth1 The difference is, agnosticism describes doubt toward knowledge, and atheism describes doubt toward deities. Consider these: agnostic theist believes gods exist and knowledge is unattainable; agnostic atheist doubts gods exist and believes knowledge is unattainable; gnostic theist claims to know gods exist; gnostic atheist claims to know gods do not exist. Why do you suppose an agnostic can't challenge theistic claims?
2:26 Oh wow! Some anonymous people on Facebook disagree with me.....That completley discredits my whole arguement.....Well played Fox, well played.
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I love how this guy can't prove shit, yet people will still believe him.
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religion is fun silverman goddamn go away!its like chocolate..because you know christmas!
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I think evolution is true , controlled by our Heavenly Father . Don't waste your time trying to convince these people about Heavenly Father , they know he is there . They are just wasting your time . Spend your time doing good for others that need it , there is no such thing as atheism , nobody is that stupid .
mollymu1 1 week ago
I like to know what the Atheist Master Plan is. Do not tell me the AOA and FFRF are going to put up sign calling people Stupid. And if they do it long enough Then one day Everyone In the World Will Magically be turned into Atheist and on that day there will be raining lollipop and bubble gum. And all the animals will live together in peace and harmony. Im sorry but as a Agnostic i dont believe in your little wet dream. Its your right to be a Asshole. But it isnt very wise to be one to everybody.
Tuber77 2 weeks ago
Whats his problem? Has the existence of Christians ever made the world a lesser lovely place to be in? If anything, it is the existence of people like him who go out doing stuff like this.
trueKVT 2 weeks ago
@trueKVT Two words: Spanish inquisition.
auroraman56 2 weeks ago
@auroraman56 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
ZdECorp 1 week ago
@ZdECorp Epic win. That deserves a thumbs up.
auroraman56 1 week ago
Fuck Jesus and fuck all the stupid religions and fuck u too if u don't like this fuck your hell
popatapataioo 2 weeks ago
If atheists don't believe In God why do they attack Christianity.Others believe in different gods.So you have alot of work on your hands.Of Course Jesus Is The True God.But budda billboard,muhammad,krisna,lochnest monster,godzilla,kale,etc.lol
AlbertEinstien18 2 weeks ago
@AlbertEinstien18 probably because there is truth in Christianity they would prefer hidden and unknown... they try to create some sort of shadow of doubt over what is real. You see anyone going at such great lengths to create such shadow over Krishna or anyone else? makes you wonder doesn't it... =)
trueKVT 2 weeks ago
i'm atheist but it pisses me off when people say 'season's greetings' for fear of offending
i'm not going to suddenly explode in a ball of hypocrisy just because i said merry xmas
the celebration has lost it's religious meaning but is entwined in my country's heritage and tradition
would you go to the Mardi Gras in New Orleans but not join in because you don't believe in the epiphany?
would you demand they rename it the 'dress up and dance fest'?
just enjoy the fun
al3699 1 month ago
I'm sorry, pause the video. 0:14.
This is a look of pure badassery.
bazerrem 1 month ago
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NeronBeyondtheDevil 1 month ago
Mr Jew is bullshitting us. It is called 'Christmas'. It does not matter one bit that it used to be a pagan celebration. What names we use for things does matter. Christmas needn't be a religious holiday if you are an atheist. I am an atheist and I celebrate it. Attacking the bame of the holiday necessarily attacks the tradition itself and seeks to take away identity from something that is part of the Western cultural heritage. No, it is not some generic 'holiday'. It is Christmas.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
Tide goes in tide goes out
blahdob 1 month ago 3
That was probably the most fare and well balanced interview with an Atheist that Fox has ever had.
x5vampire5x 1 month ago 9
@soccerlvr402 People seem to like definitive answers. It's much more comforting, I guese you could say, that there either is or is not a god then a maybe... Just my thought on it.
Hichtaken 1 month ago
I can't believe it, the fox reporter is actually normal, he's not obnoxious.
AwantedNinja 1 month ago
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What I hate about atheists is that they say that there is no God and that that is a fact. You guys can not prove that there is no God, and I don't want people saying that I can't prove that there is a God because I never said that I could. I won't whine about you guys, so leave others alone
soccerlvr402 1 month ago
I would make a sign with Jesus being stabbed saying "The Romans had the right idea"
That would piss the Christians off
ThieleM 1 month ago
How can a human who is so unimaginably minute compared to the size of this universe, and so unbelievabley young compared to age of this universe, ever claim they have the answer to such a broad question? I point that at Christians and Atheists both. Religion is a wall, a sports team, a gang, and a social fucking policy. Look at the civil effects of the religious establishment your parents put you in and ask yourself, does this progress my species further? Or does it burn new ideas at the stake?
PlacidRationale 1 month ago 2
Silverman has to stop being such a douchebag...
madd0gsquid 1 month ago
Holy shit i cant believe that a host of a fox news show... let the guest speak! *GASP*
vieuryan12345 1 month ago 36
David Silverman is a smart man, but he's no Christopher Hitchens. Mr. Silverman does not have a good way with words like Hitchens.
TehFunnehMann 1 month ago
Gooooooo Atheists!
83redrose83 1 month ago
im willing to speak to any atheist, i'll bring evidence with description & proof while you just ask questions in addition to your senseless insults
Gupitor 1 month ago
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@Gupitor "scientist can't even make blood lol "
So that means god HAD to do it, right?
"i'll bring evidence with description & proof "
Why don't you take that proof to, oh I dunno, a SCIENTIST? PS, you'd be the FIRST with proof of a god....
"while you just ask questions in addition to your senseless insults"
Sounds like a senseless insult on atheists there. So YOU get to do and say whatever you want, while we have to be respectful? ha ha I think not, pussy!
TacoBurgher327 1 month ago
@Gupitor Religion are rules to live by Muslim Christian Jewish ect basically say the same thing you don't need to believe in heaven to be a good person heaven exists first only in the mind and secondly only to turn bad people into good people I believe in the messages of religion not entirely the whole story religion is not a bad thing, its the people who use it and abuse it that are bad .e.g every presidential adders in america is ended with God bless (proof of abuse of religion)
datrippledot 1 month ago
such a trivial matter.. Why bother?
krjo4215 1 month ago
if he is the president then they are in bad shape lol. Christmas is not Christmas cause an atheist says so? i think the Christians have the atheists badly outnumbered and it is their holiday and always will be despite ignorant, jealous, foolish , misguided, and disturbed peoples opinions. enough said.
olantern 1 month ago
@olantern he did not just say "christmas is not a christian holiday because i say so.". he also gave his reasons for believing so
SharbtursGameCorner 1 month ago
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Least annoying Fox News anchor so far. He didn't use the old condescending laughter and tone while talking to him, like most of them do.
sh0werp0wer 1 month ago
Least annoying Fox News anchor so far. He didn't use the old condescending laughter and tone while talking to him, like most of them do.
sh0werp0wer 1 month ago
oooh, a not bad interview from fox??!?!!! whats going on!?
callumnik117 2 months ago
At least this guy wasn't as 'up his own ass' as the other extremely religious hosts on Fox News interviewing David Silverman.
hugodominguez9 2 months ago
YES! AWESOME!
veronicachic 2 months ago
this guy is an idiot
zenoparodie 2 months ago
Science = truth?
then why doesnt science explain HOW and WHY we are here? lol
Sciene is Flawed like Religion is........Science is just another form of Religion for many people............. "ALL HAIL SCIENCE" lol
mrtundra45 2 months ago
@mrtundra45 then what are we supposed to do?
science takes time, and it has explained how and why we are here
zenoparodie 2 months ago
@mrtundra45 The difference is that science can be proved right. Scientific theories are based on fact and exploration in detail, whereas ALL religions are based on unfalsifiable hypothesis, where no one can actually prove or disprove that a God exists. Of course, there could be a flying spaghetti monster that no one can prove actually exists or doesn't exist as well.
SKiiSMLIVE 2 months ago
@SKiiSMLIVE flying spaghetti monster? is he italian? lol
mrtundra45 2 months ago
Here is a little history lesson for you christians who may be confused that he is referring to this as solstice. Christmas was was decreed to be celebrated on December 25 by pope Julius I in the year 350AD. Does it surprise and shock you that Christmas did not become official until over 300 years after christ's alleged death? Next question: How many books of the Bible did Jesus write? Answer: None! This great teacher could not even leave behind a personally written manifesto for his flock!
gr8mikeY 2 months ago 12
Actually no one knows Jesus' actual date of birth. Some say it was September or something. Christians chose to celebrate Jesus' birth on the winter solstice because it's a great way to celebrate Christ's birth at the end of the year. Same reason why we chose to celebrate his resurrection in the spring solstice.
spector1991 2 months ago
I don't see why people get so offended. Christians say the worst things about Atheists, but if we hint back at them, they freak.
Xaotique 2 months ago
I think David is wrong chrismas is no longer about celebrating Jesus birth its more about celebrating consumerism and capitalism.
TheMaroufWarsame 2 months ago
he makes atheists look bad. I don't want to make fun of christians or argue with them. let them believe what they want to, and we can believe in nothing. who cares if there is or isn't a god? does that really change anything?
LBPThe2nd 2 months ago
@LBPThe2nd You're not even understanding the point, he's not making fun of christians or arguing. He's calling out lawbreakers who are sympathized by the public. He specifically stated this, it is not he that makes atheists look bad. It's the ignorant idiots like you that do.
808Productionz 2 months ago
@LBPThe2nd So at what point would you draw the line? If you don't standup or stop the kid that pushes another kid, next thing he'll be taking money, then beating up etc
Apathy is the problem - it allows the bullying to continue. The USA has a secular founding - that is what made it great in the first place, not the totalitarianism of a theocratic government, which dictates how you must live your life.
Allowing such practices to continue is a step back to the dark ages.
GorgeGeorg 2 months ago
The guy's got a good point, but that sign was just intended to stir up shit.
Theroha 2 months ago
I dont believe in atheists
nekbiodieselworks 2 months ago
David Silverman is a myth.
jupitercrash123 2 months ago
Not as biased an interview as I expected.
ultim4t32 2 months ago
The word holiday stems from Holy Day. I would chose a better term than Happy Holy Days, or Merry Christ mas. Since it is a pagan ritual, would chose to say Season's Greetings... Season's being the Autumn/Winter Solstice.
cdickenson64 2 months ago
i feeel sorry or atheist...... i know atheist hate hearing that, but i truly mean it. God help you all.
Hezbollah99 2 months ago
@Hezbollah99 i feel sorry for you living in complete delusion
dvrn86 2 months ago
@Hezbollah99 your head is full of delusions.
martyaus2905 2 months ago
David Silverman is The Man!!!
grindhiphop 2 months ago
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth the earth was without for or void. Darkness was over the face of the deep. and the spiirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said "let there be light" not science, not by any theory,not by any planet of the apes, and not by any humans cause knowbody existed before God. Humans cannot create themselves again 0+0=0 dumbass atheists
MegaSaginaw 2 months ago
@MegaSaginaw We have string theory, the big bang, evolution, etc. on our side. All of them are supported by evidence (mathematical and empirical). What proof do you have for the existence of God?
glagos93 2 months ago
@glagos93 We have death.
GoDxism 2 weeks ago
I hate this guy, I am atheist too but it is not with that arrogance we will convince people
Fanovv 2 months ago
If you are atheist then u belive something can be created from nothing how dumb does that sound.. people dont want to Belive in GOD cause they afraid of the truth..
they have no proof for what they belive in. GOD created us all is the only explanation why we are here. I Challenge any atheist to prove me wrong. show me show me show some proof.
MegaSaginaw 2 months ago
@MegaSaginaw Do your research, begin with the big bang understand what it is and The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe, understand its research. Once you understand the beginning of the known universe start to research the formation of our solar system and from there the beginning of life on our planet from the Primordial Soup Theory. Continue with Evolutionary Theory. And NO Theory does not mean the same thing as Hypothesis! Learn the FACTS, saying God created us is in days is insulting.
poyanp 2 months ago
@MegaSaginaw If you are religious u believe something can be created by an invisible supernatural omnipotent being, do you know how dumb that sounds?... people don't want to reject GOD because they are afraid of the truth.
they have no proof for what they believe in. GOD did not create us, science is the only explanation for why we are here. I Challenge any religious person to prove me wrong. Show me show me show some proof.
glagos93 2 months ago
Religion is slavery, as is atheism.
jerjern 2 months ago
@jerjern Sorry man, atheism is the opposite of religions.
amstrad79b 2 months ago
@amstrad79b I meant atheism is still slavery.
jerjern 2 months ago
Atheist's have been against religious holidays forever. The only difference is now Theists are finding out there's more of us out there than they thought (Thanx interweb) and religious assholes can't dismiss us as hellbent nuts anymore. We are Legion, for we are many. And I bet there are MILLIONS of Theists going through the motions because of a misguided sense of loyalty and fear. WAKE UP SHEEPLE! Religion is slavery.
TheCrimsonification 2 months ago
@TheCrimsonification "Religion is slavery" I really wish atheist would stop generalizing religion to mean the mono theistic religions. There are lot of very freeing religions that are not meant to enslave people like Christianity and Islam. Buddhists for example, do you believe they are being enslaved by there faith? Religion and faith are not the enemy, its intolerance and close minded thinking that is the enemy, you can be religious and a free thinker at the same time.
Fireflygamer 2 months ago
@Fireflygamer ALL religion is slavery. Ther is absolutely NO PROOF for a god of any kind of any faith. Buddism is Naturalism. No "God". Religions in all it's forms and beliefs is mass indoctrination using fear and intimidation to ENSLAVE their sheeple. The Bibblit is pagiarized lies. Jesus is the stolen story of Horus and Christmas is a Pagan holiday.Stolen by Christanity to assimilate Druids and Egyptian followers with more lies.
TheCrimsonification 2 months ago
@TheCrimsonification "Religions in all it's forms and beliefs is mass indoctrination using fear and intimidation to ENSLAVE their sheeple." I would agree organized religions especially the mono theisms do so. I know that the story of Jesus is stolen form the story of hours and christmas is a pagan holiday, I AM PAGAN. Just because the abrahamic religions are used to "enslave" people it dose not mean all religions do so, some religions have next to no doctrine and encourage
Fireflygamer 2 months ago
... you to think for yourself, I for example am a solitary witch, I do not believe in gods as you think or magic as you would describe it. I have no need to explain my view to you or to convert you. Through meditation and self study i come up with my own views, my own opinions. I am sure you think it is all bullshit and that is fine, I encourage you to think for yourself, but to lump people like me in with people like Christians as enslaved to a doctrine is just not accurate.
Fireflygamer 2 months ago
@Fireflygamer There is no way to be a free thinker and be religious. All your thoughts are pre-thought for you. Just regurgitate a Bibblit passage from time to time and everything is a-ok. Just don't question it. And again...ALL RELIGION IS SLAVERY.
TheCrimsonification 2 months ago
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@TheCrimsonification "There is no way to be a free thinker and be religious. All your thoughts are pre-thought for you." like i said i am a solitary witch, which means I think for myself, I will not just blindly follow what a holy book tells me, I write my own holy book as I travel on a path of self discovery. you seem to think the only religion out there is the organized religions with there written in stone doctrine and intolerance of other ideas. its not the only kind.
Fireflygamer 2 months ago
I don't believe in the theory behind halloween yet I still say happy halloween. This guy is an angry elf... I mean atheist.
MacHead31 2 months ago
this atheist is making no sense, He states he believes in no God at all, but his very last sentence said that there were many gods. contradictory right there, get your facts straight. --- there may not be proof for the God, but there isn't proof for no God either. I like this video because it's proving that this man keeps making up an excuse to get a point across, but it's only making the situation worse.
leeferg1 2 months ago
@leeferg1 The burden of proof lies upon the person who makes the claim ie. religious people.
glagos93 2 months ago
In my country, christmas have never been called anything else than it's pagan name: 'jul'. Problem solved before it even appeared.
AngeCord 2 months ago
I hope i will be alive when atheists take over the world and introduce scientific truth to humanity. PROUD TO BE ATHEIST
MrBalarinas 2 months ago 40
@MrBalarinas There are only a few ways to do this: 1. Indoctrination. 2. Force. Pick one, either way you're no different then Stalin.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
@MrBalarinas scientist can't even make blood lol
Gupitor 1 month ago
Christmas was originally a pagan celebration. The Catholics said that Christmas was the birth of Jesus and that they should celebrate it, in order to entice the pagans to convert over to them. It's no more a Christian Holiday than Halloween.
Draezeth 2 months ago
I appreciate the class the interviewer has in this :D
FullMetalElectroma 2 months ago
@darthesgoobis after the 4 horsemen?
0TheGuru0 2 months ago
there is proof
Gl0uriousAlbo 2 months ago
okay I think I have met my 5th favourite atheist!!!
darthesgoobis123 2 months ago 26
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He makes a great point about no one saying, "Don't do that, it'll upset the atheists." You don't hear mainstream society sticking up for atheists.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
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He makes a great point about no one saying, "Don't do that, it'll upset the atheists." You don't hear mainstream society sticking up for atheists.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
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He makes a great point about no one saying, "Don't do that, it'll upset the atheists." You don't hear mainstream society sticking up for atheists.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
He makes a great point about no one saying, "Don't do that, it'll upset the atheists." You don't hear mainstream society sticking up for atheists.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
they don't know the date plan and simple the wicked ruler nimrod was born on dec 25th fact so christmas might be a pegon holiday but who cares its brings people together but you can't say that jesus exsist because we have no proof we can't trust bibles writin by kings or rewritin by other people without data if we get proof then fine but don't argue if there are no facts all holidays have some old meaning to them but just celebrate them as people not what religion u are
fcfqb 2 months ago
as an atheist i want to say that this guy is an attention seeking, slightly immoral, bigot. he is fighting a useless war and nobody wnats those signs anyway. if every atheist were like him, we as a group would be hated. stop dicking around, because i, other atheists and believers alike enjoy the holidays and we don't want them to be interrupted by a bonerkill such as yourself.
sorry8140 2 months ago
Good video. I would say Silverman did a good job presenting his reason for the billboard and, this is a truly a first, Fox News actually allowed a guest they disagree with to speak his full opinion!
MeatballsMarlowe 2 months ago
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BloodyMagnificent 2 months ago
1) He asserts that "religion stole" the winter solstice holiday, yet that "the season belongs to everyone." Does "everyone" include Christians? - and may not Christians choose WHAT to celebrate, just like anyone else?
2) "Christianity is the main offender" he says, as if secular parties & Santa Claus can hardly compete. That's not reality.
3) Christians are warring to ban the phrase "Happy Holidays"? GASP!!!! BRING ON THE DUCT TAPE! GAG ALL CHRISTIANS! :) Get a grip, David.
tamething1 2 months ago
@tamething1 Are you retarded or something? He's not singling out Christians at all, he's saying under "the freedom of religion" no one religion should dominate and put priority over themselves. And Christians are mainly targeted because they fight against everything, if another religion does something that conflicts with their religion then Christians will protest, but on the flipside if Christians are the offenders then it is alright. FYI Christmas was/is a Pagan holiday, not Christian
ItaughtKobe23 2 months ago
@ItaughtKobe23 You say "Christmas was/is a Pagan holiday." That's incorrect. Christmas, specifically, is the celebration of Christ's birth, and it is not made any less Christian by any pagan celebrations preceding it. The date/season is irrelevant: One cannot "steal" a time of year.
1:21 - 1:43 he calls Christians "the main offenders" in a "war" which "Christians started". Yeah, no anti-Christian bias there.
tamething1 2 months ago
@tamething1 I hate arguing with you religious nuts because YOU ALWAYS THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, and your not, not in the slightest. But before this turns into a flame war that ever ends I'm throwing in the towel. Now you can wake up with your head held high tomorrow thinking you accomplished something. And in 2-5 years from now when church starts falling apart and you're protesting the athiests are "stealing" your worshipers away, just remember back to this moment. Because your at the P.O.N.R.
ItaughtKobe23 2 months ago
@tamething1 Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. Jesus was given the Dec. birthdate long after the bible was written. If you you go by the bible, Jesus should have been born in August. He was given Dec. 25 to coincide with the pre-existing pagan holiday. Same thing with his death, they gave it that day to coincide with the pagan holiday, Ester.
JaysLogic 2 months ago
@streetmentalist No, since either God has parent's hence could not be God, just creator, OR he's God and by definition eternal AND creator. One is logical and one isn't. If God had parent's, then he is REQUIRED to be physical, and since atheists little brain can't grasp anything outside of the natural then they have problems with God being eternal.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
To add on, Christmas IS a Christian holiday; and I'm not saying that ONLY Christians should observe it. Christmas represents the birth of Christ, not a Pagan Ritual.
gowolves4 3 months ago
@gowolves4 Yet they stole the date of the Pagan Holiday in order to get more Romans to be accepting of Christianity. This started out as Christians being oppressed, and the point of the sign is to point out the fact that now they have become the oppressors.
cainmartel 3 months ago
@gowolves4 Research Yule and Samhain. Both are pagan rituals and festivals that were celebrated by the Celtic and Scandinavian pagans before the mass Christianization of Europe. Christianity stole the traditions of pagans and made them their own.
Zodiacrin 3 months ago
@Zodiacrin The mass "Christianization" of Europe came by way of the Roman Catholic, in fact the Roman Catholic stemmed from mixing New Age occultism with Christianity, it's mentioned that scenario took place in Rome and Greece. The Roman Catholic church stole pagan traditions, it's mentioned in the Bible. That isn't true Christianity.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
@Christistruth1 "That isn't true Christianity" is always the excuse that protestants use. The fact remains that they fly the banner of Christianity just like you do. Of course it has evolved, but your beliefs are too similar for you to attempt to claim independence.
Zodiacrin 2 months ago
@Zodiacrin I'm not protestant. In fact, if you want to know what TRUE Christianity is, real the New Testament, it TOTALLY contradicts the Roman Catholic Church. ;) Go study it for 17yrs like I did. They fly A BANNER and CLAIM to be Christian. I can call myself a carrot that doesn't mean I'm a carrot. You don't know my beliefs at all, you would have to know ALL my beliefs to know that they were ALL similar. This is dumb.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
@Christistruth1 Just because an incorrect book contradicts an incorrect group does not mean that you are not incorrect. And you are. If Christ is truth, as your name so boldly states, then why can no truth be found in his apparently holy book? Truth, and things that are true, are found through study and scientific evidence. If we take, for instance, your statement: "I am a carrot.", study your composition and genetic makeup, we can see that you are indeed no carrot. "This book is the truth." is
Zodiacrin 2 months ago
@Christistruth1 also testable. Merely take all of the facts from said book and find evidence that proves it true. Presently, we have found no evidence that everything in The Holy Bible is true. Therefore, we can not accept that the book as a whole is true. Until we find evidence for things, there is no need to believe in them. There is no evidence for God, and claiming he exists does not make it so.
Zodiacrin 2 months ago
@Zodiacrin By your reasoning: Presently, we have no evidence that everything you say is true. Therefore, we cannot accept that what you say is true. Until we find evidence for Zodiacrin, there is not need to believe in Zodiacrin. Printed words in cyberspace do not constitute evidence, to those who want none.
tamething1 2 months ago
@tamething1 My point exactly. I may not be who I claim to be. My entire cause and existence may be a lie. Likewise, the existence of truth in the Holy Bible may not be what it claims to be and its entire cause and existence may be a lie. Until it is proven to be true, it must be considered untrue.
Zodiacrin 2 months ago
@Zodiacrin Nothing YOU say is "proven to be true." Yet, you seem to believe yourself.
tamething1 2 months ago
@Zodiacrin Okay, today I've been under the weather, so I'm just letting these go, but when I read this..."Presently, we have found no evidence that everything in the Holy Bible is true." That's a load of lies, you know it!! You've proven that you're dishonest.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
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@Christistruth1 Proof that Jesus rose from the dead can not be found. That is mentioned in the Bible. You are incorrect.
Zodiacrin 2 months ago
I hope by now everyone understands church and religion is all MONEY
basically they have brainwashed people.
tearsofredrose 3 months ago
Last time I checked, the majority of Congressmen believe in some sort of religion, and last time I read the Constitution it said that the consent of the majority will be followed. And this billboard is just a dick move.
gowolves4 3 months ago
@gowolves4 It also stated a separation of church and state. I also think billboards that say "Merry Christmas, not Happy Holidays" were propagated by a "dick move".
cainmartel 3 months ago
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gowolves4 3 months ago
That epic moment you see a video was uploaded exactly a year ago.
BobIsBetterThanYou 3 months ago
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IceFurnace 3 months ago
If there is physical evidence for a god why hasnt anyone presented this evidence.
wowamonn 3 months ago
lol boobs
pkoleszar 3 months ago
@streetmentalist The Unicorns mentioned in the Bible were one horned Rhinos. ;) If you understood Hebrew, Greek, you would know this.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
Why does Silverman have to look like the devil lol jk
purewilderness 3 months ago
It seems like Atheists do have an agenda, it seems like they do have "prophets" it seems like they want to change the worlds world view. This is interesting...they hypocrisy.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 It seems like you have an agenda. Or are you stereotyping because you're ignorant?
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect I never said I didn't have an agenda, did I? No. There's no stereotyping here, this guy admits it. He in fact, has an agenda, and so does the American Atheist Org...Also, if I asked you would you like to live in a world where people gave up their religions and the world became an atheists, you would probably say yes. If I asked you if you would like to participate in making that a possibility, would you do it???
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Saying atheists have an agenda, have prophets, want to change the world's views, and are hypocritical is stereotyping. Qualifying 'some' atheists, or specifying the American Atheist Organization is not stereotyping. Would I like people to become atheists? Only if comprehension leads them to such a conclusion. If people have good, complete information and sound processes behind their beliefs, why should I want them to change? Would I participate in education? Absolutely.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Yes, by definition, atheists have prophets. Prophet: an effective or leading spokesman for a cause, doctrine, or group. It's not stereotyping, it's true, he admits this. "If people have good, complete information and sound process behind their beliefs, why should I want them to change?" Is this something you believe Christians have??? "Would I participate in educations? Absolutely." I never said anything about education, I said would you participate in making it possible to convert?
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 No, by definition atheists don't believe in deities. You're implying that atheism has a cause, doctrine, or group; it does not. You did, in fact, stereotype. I don't believe anything about christians and don't pretend to know what information their beliefs are built on. My answer to your conversion question necessitated an implication of education in my answer to your participation question. I simply made it explicit for purposes of clarity. I assert nothing about the religious.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect You don't have to have a deity, there is NOWHERE that says a deity MUST be included. So wrong there. It does have a cause you admitted it. It has a group American Atheist Org. It has a doctrine, did you NOT SAY..."Would I participate in education? Absolutely." Doctrine means to "educate." Doctrine: A belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group.**** Okay so you're avoiding my question. Why would you educate them? They are educated.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 lol that's the point; deities are not included. Atheism is the disbelief of a god or gods (gods == deities, in case you're confused). I did not admit atheism has a cause. The American Atheist Organization does not represent atheism but a group OF atheists, just as a denomination does not represent christianity but a group OF christians. Regardless of which definition for doctrine you use, none are inherent in atheism. If you disagree, then what are the doctrines? Just name a few.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect That's right, you can have prophets without deities. Atheism is the disbelief based on reason that there is no God to believe in. I never said atheism had a cause, you're misinterpreting what I said. A cause, Cause: A goal or principle served with dedication and zeal. Atheism has a cause, I.E. GOAL. LOLOLOL, IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ATHEISM BUT A GROUP OF ATHEISTS, wow talk about playing semantics here, LOLOLOL. How pathetic. cont.....
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 "I never said atheism had a cause, you're misinterpreting what I said." "Atheism has a cause, I.E. GOAL." You are awarded zero points for consistency. Now, from what, in the definition, do you derive a cause/goal? Atheism; disbelief of a god or gods. Disbelief; inability or refusal to accept something as true.
You referenced a specific organization as though it represented all atheists and I corrected you. If you don't make inaccurate statements, I won't 'play semantics'.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect There are MEANINGS of the word "Cause". The cause I am using is...: "the cause of freedom versus tyranny". Sorry kiddo, I am consistent, it just went over your tiny little head there. "Atheism: The doctrine that there is no God or gods." Picking and choosing definitions are we?? Your disbelief doesn't prove anything. ;) It represents the atheist philosophy. No, you picked and choose your definition. You play semantics regardless.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@urcorrect cont....Group: A number of individuals or things considered together because of similarities. Therefor it is a GROUP, in that sense as I was referring to. "What are the doctrines?" What do you believe? Name them and there's your doctrine.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Okay, in that sense it's a group, and the only 'attribute' that encompasses all atheists is a lack of belief in deities, which means there is no inherent doctrine. A group of atheists tied together by any ideas is a subgroup, and cannot represent all atheists. This shouldn't be difficult to understand.
"What do you believe?" Nothing I believe is contingent upon atheism.
Yes I promote education. Wtf do you mean "your education"? And no, I don't want to convert people.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Sure there is an inherent doctrine, if Atheism is inherent...i.e. babies are born atheists. Oh I see, you're trying to distance yourself from those who claim a doctrine, so that you can validate your point. I see. "Nothing, I believe is contingent upon atheism." Bull, of course it's contingent upon your atheism, were debating our beliefs here because of it. "No, I don't want to convert people." Sure you do, if not why educate them?? To change their mind?
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 I didn't say anything about genetic inheritence. I'm talking about the heirarchy within the meaning of the word atheism. A lack of belief in gods does not necessarily include a belief in a lack of gods, but the latter does imply the former. Therefore, no beliefs/doctrine are, or can be inherited from the most general sense of the word. Yes, this is semantics. Semantics are important; it's how we determine meaning. I'm not cherry picking definitions, I'm explaining your errors.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect No, son, you're cherry picking definitions. Here's why, if you agree that there is no God, or God doesn't exist, that IS A POSITIVE CLAIM, and you ARE REQUIRED to prove it. You can't, so you take the cowardly position of broadening the definition, to just mean you don't believe. Therefor ridding yourself of the burden of proving the positive claim that there is no God. You will deny it, because you must. And yet you KNOW I'm right.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Having fun with your straw man?
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect It's true, and you know it's true. Be honest.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Here is why you are wrong, and why your comment is a straw man fallacy; I don't agree that there is no god, or that a god doesn't exist. I've made no such claim. The positive claim that no gods exist is ridiculous. I don't need to broaden the definition of atheism. A few of many sources:
Collins English Dictionary Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009
Oxford Dictionaries April 2010
en wikipedia org wiki atheism (take special note of positive vs negative section)
Now piss off.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Sure you believe there is no God, you just won't admit it. Why won't you admit it? Because then you would need to prove it. That is a positive claim, because you are making a claim that there IS no God. Yes, you do broaden the definition of Atheism. Sorry, Wikipedia is never taken seriously in any college course. "Now piss off." Is that your best shot? lol
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Are you going to argue with dictionaries too? I don't believe "that there IS no god", and I never have. Why don't you admit to the fallacies you commit? Making an argument for me and then attacking it = straw man. Maintaining wikipedia is incorrect because colleges don't like it as bibliographical reference = appeal to authority. Dismissing the cases which contradict your claim = cherry picking. Positing belief gods exist and belief of the contrary as a dichotomy = false dilema.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect No, I'm not, I'm not an atheist. Sure you believe that, you just won't admit it, and if you truly don't, then you're not an atheist, you're agnostic. I have not committed a fallacy. No, I'm pointing out your true position that you are either dishonestly covering up, OR you aren't really an atheist, but an agnostic. Colleges don't like it as any source period. None of my science professors, and literary professors allow it as a valid source. You are cherry picking definitions.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 I didn't say I was an atheist or state a belief, so you can NOT deny your straw man fallacy. My statements have been inclusive of all definitions for atheism (with dictionary references), so you're the one cherry picking. Atheist and agnostic are not necessarily mutually exclusive terms. Colleges don't like wiki citations; I agreed with that. Dismissing wiki information based on that is still an appeal to authority fallacy. Believing and believing not is still a false dichotomy.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Watch this, lol, are you an atheist???? lol I'm not cherry picking, I'm using the whole definition, not part of it, while atheism is the disbelief, it's by way of an assertion that there is no God. Belief and disbelief, always comes by reasons. Refer to my video watch?v=b4DmWcAi7vE
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 You can lol all you want, but I showed you your fallacies and you can't defend yourself against the accusations. Am I an atheist? Not by the definition you cherry picked. "There is no god" is an assertion; unfortunately for you, disbelief does not require an assertion. Disbelief "the inability or refusal or reluctance to believe something as true" (dictionary com). And to hopefully shut you up, "lack of faith in something" (oxforddictionaries com). I'm done with you.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect I have no fallacies. Ah, but you ARE an atheist, and regardless of the definition I picked, because it's still accurate, you're cherry picking definitions, because they are not different definitions, the word Atheist doesn't mean different things. Sure disbelief requires an assertion, if not, then there would be no disbelief. The second part of dictionary com, is the doctrine that there is no God. Son, you've been done a long time ago. ;)
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 Really?! lmfao! You don't know how to use a dictionary?! Those are separate definitions; that's why each is given a separate number. Have fun playing with your bag of fallacies and arguing with dictionaries. Your arguments have been thoroughly destroyed. Deal with it.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect No, you don't, atheism doesn't have multiple meaning like other words. No, you haven't destroyed my argument, only in your imagination kiddo.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 "atheism doesn't have multiple meaning like other words"
Congratulations. You've just added special pleading to your list of fallacies; in the face of cited proof against the claim, no less.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Your statement makes no sense you know?
DngerousRadical 3 months ago
@DngerousRadical I don't. Which statement are you referring to, and what are the details of your criticism?
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Nope, I added the truth. You need to stop accusing me of fallacies to prove your point, when you KNOW I haven't used fallacies. The TRUTH is the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states that Atheism is the claim that there is no God or gods.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 You're guilty of them, as I explained. If you don't understand that, go back over the conversation and research the logical fallacies. Once again, appealing to a source which fits your argument, while dismissing other legitimate sources (which I cited) because they don't fit your argument, is cherry picking. Numbering in dictionaries denotes multiple definitions of a word; not applying this to one word (so it fits your argument) as you would to any other is special pleading.
urcorrect 3 months ago
@urcorrect Nope, again, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states that atheism is the claim that there is no God. Nope, I'm coming from an education source. I cited some too, dictionary(.) com, states that atheism is a doctrine that there is no God, so does Websters. You're disagreeing with them because they don't fit yours, and?? You live in a glass house buddy. Look stop begging and pleading your case, because you have none, you're trying to broaden the meaning, stop being dishonest.
Christistruth1 3 months ago
@Christistruth1 I'm not disagreeing with those sources, but you are disagreeing with mine and many others. Need I remind you that it was I who directed you to dictionary com to show you there's more than one definition for atheism? And you still cherry pick. What's this about a glass house? Comparing your fallacies to my lack thereof, and my claims being supported by both our citations, it's clear I'm not the dishonest one. lol You even complain about my channel to distract from your failure.
urcorrect 2 months ago
@urcorrect Need I remind you you're picking and choosing, because disbelief comes by way of the belief there is no God. Even Agnostics disbelieve, but do not make a claim, now you're saying atheists are the same thing? You've broadened the definition to include agnosticism. You are dishonest, why not stand for the true claim of what atheism is?? You won't, because you know it's a positive claim that you're not prepared to take on, but want to be part of this "enlighten" atheism.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
@Christistruth1 It's pathetic to say I'm picking and choosing definitions when my statements were inclusive of them all. Disbelief (once again) does not necessitate a belief contrary to the rejected proposition. No, I'm not saying agnostic and atheist are the same thing, but (once again) I'm saying they're not mutually exclusive. You can't accuse me of altering definitions, since I included citations; your issue is with those sources. Why are you trying to label me as an atheist?
urcorrect 2 months ago
@urcorrect Okay, agnosticism, and atheism both withhold belief. So which one are you? If you say both...so you're an atheist and agnostic and withhold belief? But they BOTH withhold belief, what makes one different from the other??? You're either agnostic and don't know whether God exist, hence really can't argue against a theist. Or you're an atheist who claims there is no God.
Christistruth1 2 months ago
@Christistruth1 The difference is, agnosticism describes doubt toward knowledge, and atheism describes doubt toward deities. Consider these: agnostic theist believes gods exist and knowledge is unattainable; agnostic atheist doubts gods exist and believes knowledge is unattainable; gnostic theist claims to know gods exist; gnostic atheist claims to know gods do not exist. Why do you suppose an agnostic can't challenge theistic claims?
urcorrect 2 months ago