Animal Liberation Front torch vivisection lab in Belgium

[42Globert]

... are being killed by hunger

and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out a card praying for 'Peace on Earth.'"- C. David Coats

[42Globert]

@Jsledge85:  "Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to

protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by

the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the million, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative - and fatal - health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease, and cancer. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human ...

[Jsledge85]

@42Globert Man is by nature a predator, who is naturally designed to eat a herbivorous diet of meats and vegtables. The protein from meat allowed man to acquire a large brain, and the ability to manipulate his environment. Agriculture provides the food that sustains society. Existance places man in a state of competition with other predators, creating the need to kill them. Man, like all animals has suffered from disease. Animal experimentation allows disease to be conquered.

[42Globert]

@Jsledge85:I see that you're a firm believer in your own human superiority if you proclaim animals are put on this earth to be exploited,abused,tortured and killed by man,i'll just leave you with this because i don't think there's anything i can say that is going to change your mind...

[tasteegold7772]

why dont these vivisector prickfaces just come out and admit they torment these creatures just for fun and stop pretending its for some "humanitarian" reason!!..and while they're at at tell me where they fucking live so i can burn those bastards up in their homes;);)

[MsAnimalLiberation]

Bravo comrades!

[theart1rm]

Way to go ALF. Torch them all. Every last one of them. Torch them all.

[1lov3ny]

God bless them is right!!!

[CapitanAcab]

@ninjaghostscorpion

FUCK YOU....you deserve to suffer like innocent lives in the fucking labs!!!!

You're only a shit!

[Jsledge85]

@CapitanAcab Those "innocent lives" are not legal human, and as such their existance can intentionally be directed to serve the progress of medical science (i.e. technology that reduces the suffering of man's injuries, illnesses, and ailments). As the dominant species on this planet, it would be unthinkable not to avoid unethical human experimentation when there are many non-human life forms that can be used to acquire otherwise unobtainable data.

[CapitanAcab]

@Jsledge85 :(( you consider the life of sentient living beings as LEGAL OR NOT!!!!

Animals and their existences don't serve the fucking humans!!!

I'm very sad when I listen people that believes that shit like you do!!:((

[vgman94]

@Jsledge There is far more unobtainable data by not using humans and using animals, many of whom have very different reactions to different substances. Dominant or not, it's unethical to use other sentient life forms when we have a good number of humans that are deemed by our society as "unneeded", such as death row torture murderers. Instead of killing them, we could experiment on them with drugs that could prove useful, instead of using ineffective and unethical experiments on innocent lives.

[Jsledge85]

@vgman94 Using humans!? So you would condone medical test on human subjects, but not animals, like the Tuskegee experiments!? That is undefensible....

[vgman94]

@Jsledge85 So a man can rape, whip and feed a woman acid, or a child or even his brother, and get off with a death. But an animal which has done nothing knowingly wrong would get the same treatment because it's not a 2-legged, pompus prick? Your position is undefendable. Also, our civilization is responsible for mass extinctions, suicides, depression, bullying, social torture and much more pain. Are the advancements we've made worth all the pain? I find the answer to be no.

[Jsledge85]

@vgman94 (1) Such a person would be a criminal, and should be executed. (2) An animal is a biological system, presumably reacts to the introduction of drugs, pathogens, and surgical proceedures. The respective reactions produce observable patterns (data), which provide humanity with a greater understanding of the universe. There were mass extinctions before civilization.

[vgman94]

@Jsledge85 Animals are sentient beings with brains advanced enough to feel over 90% of the same sensations we do. Mass extinctions never occurred due a single species. Civilization is the naked, the hungry and also the rich. Splitting the atmo caused an unimaginable amount of pain to the Japanese. That is not worth it. Traveling the skies has killed hundreds, in human numbers and many more in avians. Your idealistic view of the world sounds like a dream. But it is not reality, I'm afraid.

[Jsledge85]

@vgman94 (1) I don't doubt that. I argue animal experimentation is the only realistic alternative to human experimentation. Animal life should be treated ethicaly. When it is sacrificed it should done so to truly advance scientific knowledge. (2) And that is why nuclear material should not be used to furnish weapons. That said, nuclear fission is only realiable source of abundant carbon free energy. (3) But, how many people made it to their destinations physically intact?

[vgman94]

@Jsledge85 1. I don't mean to accuse, but I believe you're avoiding the point. Or perhaps you're simply missing it. Human experimentation against unethical, mental unstable persons is more moral than experimenting on innocent animals. The animal species we test on have intelligence ranging from near a 2-year-old to a 6-year-old. Not counting rats which are also very intelligent. There is no ethical reason why we should harm innocents over the guilty. 2. I disagree. (cont)

[vgman94]

@Jsledge85 (cont) I believe wind, water and solar energy combined can be just as efficient and more safe than nuclear energy. I don't believe I need to remind you of Chernobyl. 3. How many people's lives depended on going to their destinations and weren't just vacations? I would quite honestly like to know that number.

[Jsledge85]

@vgman94 Technology isn't perfect and man is not an infalible god, civilization stumbles on its inevitable march forward with disasters like Chernobyl and wars, but it picks itself up and continues its course. Nuclear fission has its problems but like most thinks it is perfectable technology it will inevitably become safer and safer as man acquires the ability to shield the environment from its negative effects, it has be better than the carbon Chernobyl we are exposed to on a daily basis.

[Jsledge85]

@vgman94 [Continued] As far as mental health is concerned, humans have always suffered from psychological torment. How is civilization responsible for that? Civilization cloths the naked, feeds the hungry, houses the otherwise homeless, bridges oceans, brightens the night with artifical light, empowers man with the ability to travel the heavens, and split matter itself. Civilization is the product of historical struggle. Without a doubt, its woth it.

[lafabinachl]

thanx to exist, we admire you.

[rangernitrostratos]

So the A.L.F torches a research lab with animals animals inside of it because they feel the animals are being treated bad???

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

DEATH TO ALF!!!

[windmoveswater]

@NinjaGhostScorpion

Ninja Ghost Scorpion - it's quite clear you live in a world of fantasy where nothing experiences anything other than you. Don't spend so long on computer games otherwise you might forget that everything else that lives has it's own independant UNIQUE experience.

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

@windmoveswater You know less about me than you think. These assholes deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their days! Every last one! Without exception! And if I catch one of them in the act, don't think for a minute I won't get physical with them!

If the ALF wants a fight, I'm ready for World War III up in this bitch!

[windmoveswater]

@NinjaGhostScorpion When you say 'these assholes' are you talking about animal abusers or ALF? Animal abuse is as bad as child abuse - the taking advantage of a living being's lesser intelligence and reliableness on you to torture it. It EXPERIENCES PAIN LIKE YOU. Imagine you were less intelligent, not less aware - perhaps contrast yourself against steven hawkin's and now imagine him torturing you for fun. What exactly is your fucking argument for torturing animals again!? wake the fuck up.

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

@windmoveswater ALF and ELF must go! That's my argument! And if that offends you, I offer you my sincerest apologies in the form of a middle finger right in your face! I don't fucking take orders from you or anyone else!

[DoomedSpaceMarine123]

@NinjaGhostScorpion What a dumbass. So you hate ALF for protecting the world from assholes who get money for killing. You are one of those zombies who want the industry of animal exploitation to exist and don't give a fuck what harmful results it gives. Get a life.

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Life-saving medicine! You heard of it? I support the efforts of people who want to save lives with this medicine, and you want to condemn each and every single life it could help?! And yes, we DO need this fucking medicine! Now, you will quit supporting assholes who indirectly kill those who have potentially curable diseases! So fuck you for hating me for wanting to save innocent lives! Now, walk your ass to a mental hospital and check in! And demand an extra-tight jacket!

[DoomedSpaceMarine123]

@NinjaGhostScorpion Thalidomide! You heard of it? How does killing animals rather than actually testing something on human cells help to save lives? Animal "testing" hasn't given us a medicine for curing AIDS and cancer for a long time, in spite of being "effective". You are a zombie who would give anything away for murderers who kill while they could do something useful (like examining effects of various substances on human cells, as we need medicines for HUMANS, not monkeys, rabbits and rats).

[Jsledge85]

@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Animal research and vivisection, have provided more medical knowledge than any other source, in fact, medical progress would grind to a halt without such research. You simple overlook this fact to accomodate your uninformed and irrational views. Without animal research, scientific progress would depend upon medical experimentation on humans, this is not only unethical it is illegal. All non-human life serves one simple purpose, the betterment of man.

[42Globert]

@Jsledge85 And tell me,what makes a human life more special that a non human one?Why do you put man on a god like pedestal when he kills everything he touches on this planet?

[Jsledge85]

@42Globert Lets see, man is responsible for producing civilization, mankind has subsequently learned mathematics, astronomy, biology, egineering, and philosophy. Mankind is the only species native to this planet that has traveled to space. Man isn't responsible for killing everything he touches, humanity's benevolence has saved more lives, both human and non-human, than you can possibly imagine. Find me a pig who can who quote Goethe and Nietzche and I will join Animal's Lib.

[Jsledge85]

@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Animal testing is inherently unable to provide a cure or more effective treatment for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, because HIV effects only humans, dumb ass. Hence the name, "Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)," apes are affected by SIV. Some of Animal Lib activist apparently failed biology 101.

[Jsledge85]

@DoomedSpaceMarine123 They are criminals, they should be thrown in cells with sodomites. They stand in front of the advancement of science, in front of progress. They are inherently counter-revolutionary, and should be viciously eradicated.

[JADEAV]

Oh they removed the animals from the build,rescued them and burned the build to stop them from harming and killing the innocent animals... wooo wooo!! Good! Because they were behind the black masks saving the animals and destoried the build!

[amyons]

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[12w23q1]

ALF heroes!!

[DoomedSpaceMarine123]

ALF are heroes. They not only rescue many nonhuman animals, but they also save many humans too. An example: meat causes cancer. When ALF cause damage to meat industry, they prevent those murderers from causing cancer to people. Also, by rescuing animals which are going to be tested on, ALF encourage to use alternative ways of testing, which are more accurate. ALF haters, tell me, how many lives has thalidomide saved? And how many thalidomide-like tragedies have been caused by testing on cells?

[simplyguys]

Merci.

[crabsnyopants]

it's sad a person can take a dog who puts all thier trust in us and torture them for money, and personal gains, and as for medical reasoning, it's the 21st century, find alternatives, like a brain dead person, with no brain activity. people have a bad habbit of thinking thier supperior to everything and this attitude that we are gods is killing us.

[AlpyvV]

of course the animals are out first !

[antiracistfaction]

Nice! ALF Forever!

[Gmancrap]

Good, fuck you animal testing ass holes.

[MassimoBjork]

well done

[ZeroHumans]

HAHAHA love that sadistic bastard's "pained" expression. GO ALF!!!!!!

[TheSamara89kitten]

Burn the scientists and the researchers. Burn the creatures who make billions of dollars from any industry which abuses animals. I could do it myself.

The pharmaceutical companies LIE, wake up to what is happening. This is barbaric.

[lakeplacidresident]

haha fuck just about everybody who commented under me.

Torturing animals is wrong. no matter what way its done. its awesome that they torched that place. i think its great what ALF is doing

[stronglefty1]

Meat kills... so does antibacteria soap, using a car (pollutes the environments and kills zillions of living microbes everytime it burns fuel) most other things we do. So I guess no matter what, you're killing to.

I DO have a right to eat meat... it was given to me by God. You can not believe He exist or not, but that will bite ya in the butt. Humans may be animals, but we are supreme over them. I don't believe its right to treat the horridly, but it doesn't hurt the way I kill animals.

[sessehomaru99]

A right given by a thing that isn't even likely to exist...

To me, existing ethics are superior to your belief. They give the ALF the right to save lives.

We are not superior to animals, otherwise we wouldn't destroy our own species.

[stronglefty1]

What ethics are those? You seem to have the ethics of a rock... I mean considering you "evolved" from one.

Isn't likely to exist... well then, have a good time in that eternal damnation we call Hell.

And if you haven't noticed... people have been destroying our own species forever. We are just smart enough to realize when to stop before everyone is dead. Unlike animals, we ALL are smart enough to realize we can benefit off one another.

Your effort is good, but you can't argue very well.

[sessehomaru99]

In fact we evolved from primates.

Sounds like someone had a good time indoctrinating you with belief?

If we were smart enough, we had stopped before. Just look at the third world, the global warming, etc. It didn't get better with the time, huh? It just gets worse and worse.

[stronglefty1]

Ya know... I'm just gonna stop... because 1) you're not gonna persuade me, I'm not gonna persuade you 2) I have better things to do with my time and 3) why? I could do something that makes me smile... playin with my dog or sittin in a deerstand. If you like to try and reproduce with monkeys or whatever, I don't care... but whatever.

We don't have any views in common... say the best thing we can do, avoid communicating with one another. Judgement WILL come on all of us one day.... from HIM.

[adiosucks123]

HAHA fuck whatever HIM you are talking about. theres no proof. its all blind faith. you might as well go worship a milk bottle dumbass

we evolved from tiny little bacteria no "GOD" made me the way i am. all ur religions are fairy tales

[Outdrawn]

ALF are nothing but terrorists. Fucking liberal morons.

[sessehomaru99]

ALF are nothing but heroes! <3

GO VEGAN!!

[stronglefty1]

sessehomaru99.... you have a right to your opinion, but so do we. If you're a vegan, good for you. I greatly enjoy a good T-bone or cheeseburger WHENEVER I WANT!!! ALF is nothing but terrorist. WE meat eaters, we do have a right. If you don't want it fine. I don't call you stupid because you're not eating meat... i don't feel I thats my place to. But I think for me to not eat meat, drink milk, etc would be a stupid choice. And animals DON'T have the same right as humans.

[sessehomaru99]

You can do whatever you want as long you don't hurt anyone and meat KILLS. So you have NO RIGHT to eat meat!

Humans are just one kind of animals, why should they be better than others? This is just as dumb as racism.

[Outdrawn]

This IS hurting people. Torching labs like this is no better than domestic terrorism. I would never call terrorists like these "heroes". Think before you speak.

[sessehomaru99]

It hurts them financially, yes. but Money is simply WORTHLESS compared to life.

[Outdrawn]

Incorrect. ALF would destroy a lab that is working on the cure for cancer if a few fucking rats were at risk. People need to really put their priorities in order. And as for the terrorist argument, ALF are terrorists. A terrorist is one who uses violence to get a point across. That describes ALF pretty well.

[sessehomaru99]

Taking the life of anyone cannot be justified through ANYTHING, not even a cure for cancer. Nothing is worth as much as any animal's life, NOTHING!

[Outdrawn]

Yeah it is. We as humanity cannot progress unless sacrifices are made. I'm pretty sure 99% of society would not give a shit if a few rats died in order to produce a viable cure to a lethal disease. The ends justify the means.

[sessehomaru99]

Nobody cares when you die. Does this justify anyone who wants to murder you? It does not.

Even if it would save a million people when you died in experiments, it wouldn't justify it.

[Outdrawn]

Yes it does. We as humanity need to make decisions. And who really cares if that decision involves killing a few rats in order to create something that could save hundreds of thousands of people?

[JanBelupo]

I honestly DESPISE fucking morons like you.These fucking companies are taking brain dead shit-heads like you for everything youve got.Animal torture doesnt help humans.Even if it did,it would still be wrong and vile

[sessehomaru99]

Would you experiment with a disabled child if it saved 100 others? The child who you experiment with suffers extremely and dies after. Would you do that?

It's the same with those rats, except killing rats doesn't ever bring us as much progress as we need.

[Outdrawn]

Yes I would. You sometimes need to make sacrifices that save many more. Sure, the cost is great, but the benefit is worth it. If It was required for me to "experiment" with someone to save 100 other people, I would do it without a second thought.

And, @JanBelupo, please don't make insinuations about my intelligence, and don't tell me I've been indoctrinated by "companies". These are my beliefs, and I stand by them and will support them. I don't believe in this ALF terrorism shit. Fuck you.

[sessehomaru99]

There is nothing that is as much worth as just one single individuals life. Not even the biggest progress ever.

[Outdrawn]

Lets take your "logic", and apply it to a historical decision. Say, for example, if we were able to kill Hitler, we'd effectively stop the holocaust and save 12 million lives. According to your logic, this would be not worth it, because of a single individuals' life. I just disproved your so called "logic", enjoy. Oh yeah, and the ALF is a bunch of domestic terrorists. :]

[sessehomaru99]

Comparing a murderer like Hitler to a helpless child or a innocent rat is just wrong.

Well, what to do if we don't kill him...just put him in prison forever. The holocaust would have stopped this way.

[Outdrawn]

No. I am asking you, if you would kill Hitler to stop the holocaust. Simple question, stop dodging it.

[sessehomaru99]

I'd put him in prison.

[Outdrawn]

Once again, stop dodging the question. Prison is not an option. If you had a gun, and you could stop the holocaust by pulling the trigger, would you?

[sessehomaru99]

If it was the only possibility, I would.

If there were other options, I'd try them first.

[Outdrawn]

Thank you for proving my point. Sometimes the ends justify the means.

[usastillstrong4me]

GOOD! And as far as all the data being destroyed and the devil people having to get more animals to re do the same thing over again, they re do the experiments anyway! They're EVIL!

[mooshy2]

GO ALF GOOOO

[Reaver184]

Long live the animal liberation front

Keep up the good work

[vio11ro]

ALF <3

Go vegan!

[fragol88]

go alf go!

[butterflybabe666]

they try to be fair they try to reason they are not being listened to! go ALF XXX

[Soulisscool]

AK49 what would you do then just leave them to it and do nothing? You need to look at the bigger and more long term picture.

[AK49Gunner]

Great, all of that research was destroyed, so now they will have to torture more animals to get the same info. Great job ALF! :/

[mishka1305]

best news i've heard all year! LOL GO ALF!!!

[DrawionKuda]

fuck animal testing

go ALF

[mikael69yy]

God bless you all....GOOD ACTION !!!

[ghorghorghor]

good action!!

fuck laboratories!!

[EricaLLBaby09]

:D!

[VegAngel123]

they keep for experiments. The university says that the use of mice and rats for medicines for MS are subjected to strict rules. And they don't know anything about the heroes who did this.

[VegAngel123]

Translation (ok my english isn't great but I think people will understand this better than the spoken belgian):

A student who came back saw the fire and sounded the alarm. Because of that the fire brigade could intervene quickly, but the damage is huge and criminal intented. Guy: "The damage is big, the parking spots, the building, blahblah." The institute is renovated at the moment and a new building is built next to it. "ALF" was written on the site hut. Guy thinks it's because of the animals

[CelestialMaiden15]

*huge smile* GO ALF!!!!!

[draihu]

GOOD JOB!

[coinoperatedsahra]

did the animals get burnt alive? was there an animal rescue first? or were there no animals inside?

[untilallarefree]

Yes; every animal was taken from the building (rescued before hand). Not a single living creature was left :)

[Kookieluv5]

GO ALF!! U ROCK!! :)