Having read "The American Way of War" I noticed that both Wilkerson and the article do not mention the US gov't.'s use of mercenary forces euphamistically called "Private Military Companies". This is important because the whole reason hiring and using mercenaries are illegal in the US is that they do not answer to the people and its government - only to their paymaster.
I really wanted to know his position on this matter.
Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon river marked the end of the Roman Republic and the beginning of the Roman Empire. From that point onwards, Rome would be ruled not by the people and senate of Rome (SPQR) , but directly by an Emperor.
@Bankstercide Using that comparison, he is saying that by getting the US military involved in torture a line had been crossed - no longer could the US military claim to serve the Republic and its citizens. Rather, the US military now served a group of powerful politicians and the interests that sponsored them.
@Bankstercide Matt Taibbi's expose on the fraud perpetuated by the big banks on the American people with total impunity only serves to underscore Wilkerson's assertion.
It's going to take violence to get our country back I'm tired of hearing this nonviolence the ruling class and Obama preaches nonviolence but they have six wars going if nonviolence works why are we at war it doesn't the reason King and Gandhi preached nonviolence because they did not have an Army I am glad George Washington and our founding fathers believed in violence that's how we got our country so if preach nonviolence you are against George Washington way of thinking
Jay: Good interview. Iraq wasn't tens of thousands killed. Try well over a MILLION innocent Iraqi's! You should know this. This is excluding the million Iraqi's who were murdered by American led sanctions prior to the war. So make that well in excess of 2 million Iraqi's.
I hope that you've woken up to the NWO/Elitist carbon tax 'global warming' hoax. I stopped donating and recommending you when you carried on down this fools path.
The hint of the depravity of the American STATE was right at the beginning, what they did to Native American peoples, and their dropping of a nuclear bomb onto Hiroshima!!! A crime against humanity, all other species, and nature!
The Legal Society has Stolen America from the People. The Legal Society is Judges and Attorneys and they use Dumb Cops as their Accomplices. Are you a "Person" or a "Human Being"? Are You Free or a Slave to These Goons/GAMBINOS? See Free-Man-On-The-Land. Also See "Slavery By Consent." Also Take a Look At Marc Stevens. America Isn't Free; Nor Is It Just ..!! Blame The Treasonous-Attorneys, 40,613 Views: Free Man on the Land watch?v=eQzrfJbbj_o
The Zionist World Banks hold the power in the US, over the USA, period. They killed Lincoln, in his prime because he attempted to challenge the bank, and print his (American) money. Paulson made a threat of Martial Law, if Congress did not grant the “stimulus” money of 840,000,000,000,000.00 DOLLARS; Who can make threat of Martial Law, unless he is CONNECTED to the military powers puppets of the Federal Reserve Bank? Hidden History LarouchePAC
Heroin for Centuries to Control all of China-Hooked
Mk-Ultra Program, Alleged PROTESTANT Prescott Bush Conducted Bus with Hitler during WWII, Tried to get General Butler to Kill President Roosevelt & set up Hitler style Government SS#322, 1913 Zionist and Jesuits stole American Economic System "FIAT EMPIRE" Caused Depression purchased assets for 4-Cents on the STOLEN-Dollar-WEALTH. Have Americans Drugged with NeuroToxin see Code name ArtiChoke with Mk-Ultra.. See: FluorideAction
War Crimes have no Statute of Limitations Federally or Internationally and the Office does not sanctify the Holder. Tick Tock, these crimes are well documented, just like Hitler's camps and they will have their Nuremberg. Why do you think Bush Cheney and the Boys are not prancing around, Obama will be the next with a reward on his neck for War Crimes Treason, etc. They cannot travel for fear that countries with laws, not the US at the moment, will arrest them as we already should have.
A Coup of TRAITOROUS TREASONOUS UNPATRIOTIC ANTI AMERICAN NAZI FRY LOVING ELITIST PIGS! To topple a Coup it must be torn down top down. The Way, recapture the Injustice department and TRY THEM for TREASON and WAR CRIMES, the punishment if found guilty is the end of a rope. As always, NOOSES FREE @ IVIEWIT.TV ~ Eliot Bernstein, Inventor
there is only one problem i have with this interview and it is during the very beginning: tens of thousands of deaths? that's the low estimate that is usually given by mainstream media. high estimates are over a million. and iraq body count reports documented civilian deaths - which alone is ~105k! add to that an estimate for undocumented and military deaths and you have quite a bit more than "tens of thousands".
@reptilianism420 you mean "didn't we hear about ...", right? because i doubt there ever was a war where there was no torture. and even outside of war... what do you think the ~50 suspected CIA black sites are used for?
@notthere83 yea exactly. torture is a tool of war, intentional or not (like a bomb blowing some kids legs off, that is torture for him/her).
my point is that the veteran is speaking about torture in the 21st century as if it is something new, that war is waged immortally now and not in the past. im refering to the interview in the video
2,100 views on an interview that CNN should be broadcasting. Paul Jay is far ahead of the pack and I hope this entire interview will come out on DVD soon. Thanks Jay, you really did us a service. As for the rest of you that won't read this comment, Wake Up!
"The torture issue is not just an aberration, it is a manifestation of where we have come as country.... the corruption of our gov't processes, and the fact that we were turning into a country that knew only one way of achieving its purpose - and that was to kill people - really troubled me.... I'm not sure we can recover from this. I am not in any way, fashion or form sure that my grandchildren will live in a democratic federal republic."
@audadvnc Sadly, he's right the gears of war continue to churn out new conflicts almost annually, the military industrial complex thats in charge turns in nothing except, profit, profit, profit, and more profit off the mass murder of foreign people. Right now America remains apathetic and uninterested in resolving or even taking a second look at the issues they face. I guess Justin Beiber's dating life is really just that important.
Seems as though every president covers the previous presidents ass. Then they expect, and get, their ass covered when they leave office. All the while the NWO agenda moves on. It's all just part of the plan.
"Prime time Viewing"? "Why aren't the networks showing this?" Are you guys serious? The Major Media Networks are a part of the machine! If you are still listening to the Media, and believing what they say 100%, without doing some of your own independent research - then you are a dupe. Real interviews of real people who speak against the US Government policies (NWO) are banned on TV. Why is Noam Chomsky considered the "Einstein" of our day but rarely ever interviewed by network TV???
I like this guy, but I find hard to imagine how an intelligent man like this was suddenly surprised by the use of torture in the US army. Come on, they where training people from all over the continent to aply torture back in the 50s, 60s and 70s, they raised their puppies in the School of the Americas and then the brought them to power in Central and South America and they back their programs. I can't really buy this guy naïveté, its just PR
This is one of the most insightful series of interviews concerning the crimes of the Bush regime and the problems at the heart of the American state. Thank You.
But it only has 305 views. That says it all really. People need to see this.
@3LARI 5 hours later & it still says 305 views. At the risk of sounding paranoid, sometimes I wonder if youtube has monkeyed with view #s to influence this series' popularity (youtube actively "discourages" those who are anti-zionist, anti-war; I know because they've disabled vids of mine)
@TripleSpeak After reading your comments, I attempted to subscribe to your channel. Sorry to find it disabled. I would have benefitted from your work. Hope to see that situation corrected. Good luck.
@3LARI ur too right, and it's indeed too tragic outspoken critics like wilkerson dont get broadcasted as wide as they should...but that's the media, fuck the depressing shit, it's all about weinergate and the next sex scandal!!!!
"I'm not at all sure that my grandchildren will live in a democratic republic." - Larry Wilkerson. Hey Larry. I'm not at all sure that you're even living in one right now!
Most Americans are so convinced that America is on the right track. We should murder everyone especially babies and mothers and little brothers. How's that Ossmbamma am I now off the terrorist list and on your side? Yeahhhhh president osomabammma. Osommabomma Oslima I forget how itsxpronounced. Oslima
Having read "The American Way of War" I noticed that both Wilkerson and the article do not mention the US gov't.'s use of mercenary forces euphamistically called "Private Military Companies". This is important because the whole reason hiring and using mercenaries are illegal in the US is that they do not answer to the people and its government - only to their paymaster.
I really wanted to know his position on this matter.
Bankstercide 2 months ago
Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon river marked the end of the Roman Republic and the beginning of the Roman Empire. From that point onwards, Rome would be ruled not by the people and senate of Rome (SPQR) , but directly by an Emperor.
Bankstercide 2 months ago
@Bankstercide Using that comparison, he is saying that by getting the US military involved in torture a line had been crossed - no longer could the US military claim to serve the Republic and its citizens. Rather, the US military now served a group of powerful politicians and the interests that sponsored them.
Bankstercide 2 months ago
@Bankstercide Matt Taibbi's expose on the fraud perpetuated by the big banks on the American people with total impunity only serves to underscore Wilkerson's assertion.
Bankstercide 2 months ago
Fascinating stuff, youtube needs more of this.
reversemortgagesaus 4 months ago
Hrm, not sure I agree with most of what's been said in this video to be honest.
CreditRatings101 4 months ago
Let there be peace on earth! ^_^
herleneshe 6 months ago
It's going to take violence to get our country back I'm tired of hearing this nonviolence the ruling class and Obama preaches nonviolence but they have six wars going if nonviolence works why are we at war it doesn't the reason King and Gandhi preached nonviolence because they did not have an Army I am glad George Washington and our founding fathers believed in violence that's how we got our country so if preach nonviolence you are against George Washington way of thinking
KYKIN44 8 months ago
Jay: Good interview. Iraq wasn't tens of thousands killed. Try well over a MILLION innocent Iraqi's! You should know this. This is excluding the million Iraqi's who were murdered by American led sanctions prior to the war. So make that well in excess of 2 million Iraqi's.
I hope that you've woken up to the NWO/Elitist carbon tax 'global warming' hoax. I stopped donating and recommending you when you carried on down this fools path.
calumcoburn 8 months ago
amen
ChronicHeaven 8 months ago
The hint of the depravity of the American STATE was right at the beginning, what they did to Native American peoples, and their dropping of a nuclear bomb onto Hiroshima!!! A crime against humanity, all other species, and nature!
zezt 8 months ago
The Legal Society has Stolen America from the People. The Legal Society is Judges and Attorneys and they use Dumb Cops as their Accomplices. Are you a "Person" or a "Human Being"? Are You Free or a Slave to These Goons/GAMBINOS? See Free-Man-On-The-Land. Also See "Slavery By Consent." Also Take a Look At Marc Stevens. America Isn't Free; Nor Is It Just ..!! Blame The Treasonous-Attorneys, 40,613 Views: Free Man on the Land watch?v=eQzrfJbbj_o
rclark23 8 months ago
The Zionist World Banks hold the power in the US, over the USA, period. They killed Lincoln, in his prime because he attempted to challenge the bank, and print his (American) money. Paulson made a threat of Martial Law, if Congress did not grant the “stimulus” money of 840,000,000,000,000.00 DOLLARS; Who can make threat of Martial Law, unless he is CONNECTED to the military powers puppets of the Federal Reserve Bank? Hidden History LarouchePAC
Heroin for Centuries to Control all of China-Hooked
rclark23 8 months ago
Mk-Ultra Program, Alleged PROTESTANT Prescott Bush Conducted Bus with Hitler during WWII, Tried to get General Butler to Kill President Roosevelt & set up Hitler style Government SS#322, 1913 Zionist and Jesuits stole American Economic System "FIAT EMPIRE" Caused Depression purchased assets for 4-Cents on the STOLEN-Dollar-WEALTH. Have Americans Drugged with NeuroToxin see Code name ArtiChoke with Mk-Ultra.. See: FluorideAction
rclark23 8 months ago
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rclark23 8 months ago
War Crimes have no Statute of Limitations Federally or Internationally and the Office does not sanctify the Holder. Tick Tock, these crimes are well documented, just like Hitler's camps and they will have their Nuremberg. Why do you think Bush Cheney and the Boys are not prancing around, Obama will be the next with a reward on his neck for War Crimes Treason, etc. They cannot travel for fear that countries with laws, not the US at the moment, will arrest them as we already should have.
eliotbernstein 8 months ago
A Coup of TRAITOROUS TREASONOUS UNPATRIOTIC ANTI AMERICAN NAZI FRY LOVING ELITIST PIGS! To topple a Coup it must be torn down top down. The Way, recapture the Injustice department and TRY THEM for TREASON and WAR CRIMES, the punishment if found guilty is the end of a rope. As always, NOOSES FREE @ IVIEWIT.TV ~ Eliot Bernstein, Inventor
eliotbernstein 8 months ago
there is only one problem i have with this interview and it is during the very beginning: tens of thousands of deaths? that's the low estimate that is usually given by mainstream media. high estimates are over a million. and iraq body count reports documented civilian deaths - which alone is ~105k! add to that an estimate for undocumented and military deaths and you have quite a bit more than "tens of thousands".
notthere83 8 months ago
This video = Reality 101. EXCELLENT interview that says it all!
beta447 8 months ago in playlist Civil & Human Rights
was'nt there torture in the Vietnam war also?
reptilianism420 8 months ago
@reptilianism420 you mean "didn't we hear about ...", right? because i doubt there ever was a war where there was no torture. and even outside of war... what do you think the ~50 suspected CIA black sites are used for?
notthere83 8 months ago
@notthere83 yea exactly. torture is a tool of war, intentional or not (like a bomb blowing some kids legs off, that is torture for him/her).
my point is that the veteran is speaking about torture in the 21st century as if it is something new, that war is waged immortally now and not in the past. im refering to the interview in the video
reptilianism420 8 months ago
2,100 views on an interview that CNN should be broadcasting. Paul Jay is far ahead of the pack and I hope this entire interview will come out on DVD soon. Thanks Jay, you really did us a service. As for the rest of you that won't read this comment, Wake Up!
chi8cago 8 months ago
A very eye-opening interview.
sktigerjs 8 months ago
Brilliant Interview - Best yet, my deepest respect to Col. Wilkerson
peetasmith1 8 months ago
Thanks for this series. Probably the best I've seen on The Real News. Keep these coming and I will keep donating!
ryanpye11 8 months ago
Great job.
Aspie12345 8 months ago
one of the best interview posted in a long time . great work paul jay
obarelida 8 months ago
"The torture issue is not just an aberration, it is a manifestation of where we have come as country.... the corruption of our gov't processes, and the fact that we were turning into a country that knew only one way of achieving its purpose - and that was to kill people - really troubled me.... I'm not sure we can recover from this. I am not in any way, fashion or form sure that my grandchildren will live in a democratic federal republic."
Strong words from a guy who ought to know.
audadvnc 8 months ago 6
@audadvnc Sadly, he's right the gears of war continue to churn out new conflicts almost annually, the military industrial complex thats in charge turns in nothing except, profit, profit, profit, and more profit off the mass murder of foreign people. Right now America remains apathetic and uninterested in resolving or even taking a second look at the issues they face. I guess Justin Beiber's dating life is really just that important.
nds87 8 months ago
Seems as though every president covers the previous presidents ass. Then they expect, and get, their ass covered when they leave office. All the while the NWO agenda moves on. It's all just part of the plan.
gsuitter 8 months ago
RIP America it looks like its over for us we ether fight are move out of the country.
CazyDayz 8 months ago
"Prime time Viewing"? "Why aren't the networks showing this?" Are you guys serious? The Major Media Networks are a part of the machine! If you are still listening to the Media, and believing what they say 100%, without doing some of your own independent research - then you are a dupe. Real interviews of real people who speak against the US Government policies (NWO) are banned on TV. Why is Noam Chomsky considered the "Einstein" of our day but rarely ever interviewed by network TV???
BillGoose1313 8 months ago 3
"USA USA USA"
"Great women and great men give great and eloquent speeches; the wildflower has greater power to render the soul speechless"
"Wildfire sadness bring wildflower gladness"
~~cc
Pride before the fall.
carefulcarpenter 8 months ago
Excellent interview.
leptonsoup337 8 months ago
GOD what a series of interviews! Why aren't our networks doing stuff like this!?
neanderslob 8 months ago
he thinks holder would actually do anything? now who's delusional ?
PennywisePatriots 8 months ago
Awesome video...good job paul!
cafeclash 8 months ago
guilty
Tsnore 8 months ago
I like this guy, but I find hard to imagine how an intelligent man like this was suddenly surprised by the use of torture in the US army. Come on, they where training people from all over the continent to aply torture back in the 50s, 60s and 70s, they raised their puppies in the School of the Americas and then the brought them to power in Central and South America and they back their programs. I can't really buy this guy naïveté, its just PR
kurydebarcelona 8 months ago
I really enjoyed this series. Wish more people would see this.
sl2mmer 8 months ago
great series!
imigrantpunk 8 months ago
A thoughtful insider and a good man.
bammbamm12 8 months ago
In plain sight. Thank you Real News.
usergently 8 months ago 3
did Obama change anything? Not that I could see. I don't expect anything good from GOP people. But Obama was the biggest disapointment in my life.
pcuimac 8 months ago
This is one of the most insightful series of interviews concerning the crimes of the Bush regime and the problems at the heart of the American state. Thank You.
But it only has 305 views. That says it all really. People need to see this.
3LARI 8 months ago 35
@3LARI 5 hours later & it still says 305 views. At the risk of sounding paranoid, sometimes I wonder if youtube has monkeyed with view #s to influence this series' popularity (youtube actively "discourages" those who are anti-zionist, anti-war; I know because they've disabled vids of mine)
TripleSpeak 8 months ago
@TripleSpeak After reading your comments, I attempted to subscribe to your channel. Sorry to find it disabled. I would have benefitted from your work. Hope to see that situation corrected. Good luck.
mahdatonta 8 months ago
@3LARI ur too right, and it's indeed too tragic outspoken critics like wilkerson dont get broadcasted as wide as they should...but that's the media, fuck the depressing shit, it's all about weinergate and the next sex scandal!!!!
carlo88moe 8 months ago
@3LARI
I totally agree. I`ve enjoyed every part of it.
All of Jays interviews are great but this is one of, if not the best.
lambros6 8 months ago
@3LARI I wish it stopped at the Bush Admin but that is a fantasy. This is MUCH bigger than "W" and his people.
1family4me 8 months ago
@3LARI It has like 20k views now, happy?
revmortcompared 1 month ago
riveting stuff.
best I've seen!
arthurdonachy 8 months ago
When will the military determine that the civilian government has already gone over the edge? If so, what is the correct response?
mcamelyne 8 months ago
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"I'm not at all sure that my grandchildren will live in a democratic republic." - Larry Wilkerson. Hey Larry. I'm not at all sure that you're even living in one right now!
Cabronosidad 8 months ago 2
Phenomenal interview. Well done Real News!
Cabronosidad 8 months ago
A Security and Finance State that Dominates the American People? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! To all Americans - REFUSE TO COMPLY..................
clearasvodka 8 months ago
I enjoyed every second of those 8 parts, congratulations!
mervesto 8 months ago
@mervesto same here. was just about to request more myself
ahoyhoy79 8 months ago
Most Americans are so convinced that America is on the right track. We should murder everyone especially babies and mothers and little brothers. How's that Ossmbamma am I now off the terrorist list and on your side? Yeahhhhh president osomabammma. Osommabomma Oslima I forget how itsxpronounced. Oslima
X
TheBelldiver 8 months ago
The article mentioned by Wilkerson, The American Way of War, is online at proceedings magazine. Good article.
davidperi 8 months ago
Obama's single most hated action..To let war criminals walk free.
Why? Because he was about to become one!
topthickproducer 8 months ago 2
This down-grading of twisted morality continues....and will continue in the smoke of rhetoric.
davidperi 8 months ago
"I'm not at all sure that my grandchildren will live in a democratic republic." - Larry Wilkerson
"(on Donald Rumsfield) He is delusional and he his deceptive, and I can prove it in both cases." - Collin Powell
SDSMJ 8 months ago
Wow, Wilkerson. These are the people that should be making the big decisions.
Shisho2k 8 months ago
This is quality journalism. Outstanding interview.
Comp3630 8 months ago 3
This needs to get on TV. One hell of an interview
stillstevesomething 8 months ago 3
Bush & Cheney must be held accountable. There's no statute of limitation for murder.
dragon8me2 8 months ago