Hmm, the idea of a HVLP reminds me kinda of old soviet vacuum cleaners, which had another hole for the hose in which the air comes out and specially made for that sprayers, only they didn't have a button to start spraying so you had to turn on the vacuum cleaner to start spraying. Used to spray trees from insects and make small paint jobs, never tried it though
i'm a house painter, and i wouldnt dream of using one of those things inside a home, or even outside for that matter. Talk about high maintenance. Air assisted airless, or straight airless. No fiddling with the machine. HVLP units are very touchy. They look wonderful at the product demonstrations, perfect for a workshop, NOT for a home.
Smaxwell1963, I appreciated your video. I'm just starting to evaluate HVLP sprayers for cabinetry/finish work, and your demonstration also showed some other useful capabilities. Regarding moisture: Rapid compression of air results in heat as the cylinder expands. Rapid decompression, as you pointed out when you use the bleeder valve, will result in cooling -- even though the air (in both cases) is identical. Clearly, greater relevant humidity will result in more captured moisture.
Armchair critics feed off their own rants while the rest of the world take risks, wrestles with reality and makes good things happen. Heaven help the ranters.
One things for sure, you don't know how to install a door. I can see the outside from the inside. I hope you did better on the toilet door, otherwise your nuts will be exhibited for all to see.
Air gives off heat as it is compressed, but the heat is contained in a tank, so the compressed air in the tank is hotter than it was before compression. As it is released through the air hose it decompresses and cools, which releases moisture in your lines. With a compressor, always use a water trap as close to the gun as possible. A turbine box generates low pressure air and therefore is pretty close to ambient humidity and less likely to contain water droplets.
Physics: that the gas that is expanding (air coming out of the gun) is getting warmer, not cooler. it gets its heat from the surrounding air or any surface that it hits. This explains (in part) why your hand feels cooler when expanding air is directed at it. Your hand is losing heat to the expanding air which is getting warmer. Expanding air gets warmer and can hold more moisture. Any moisture coming out of the gun, comes from the compression stage, definitely not the expansion stage.
@chirpieguy spraying for any decent length of time with one of these things, leaves a tiny fine dust everywhere. Everything and i mean everything still has to be covered. I can get less overspray with an airless unit when operated correctly.
If using a hvlp gun connected to a compressor then the compressor will need to deliver a high cfm rate to use the gun effective. If you find yourself turning up the pressure to get the gun to work right then you do not have the right compressor. Also moisture occurs when air is compressed. The HVLP system above only uses around 8 psi so you do not see the same effect as a 150 psi compressor.
"Compressors only deliver cold damp air"??? Buddy please don't lie to people just to prove some sort of point. Unless you're an idiot you always have a moisture filter for your compressor. As far as warm vs cold?? How is this true???
I have five compressors in my shop, and even though the largest is connected to a moisture filter, some moisture still comes through in humid weather – enough to cause problems with some finishes. The reason is physics. When any compressed gas expands (as air does when coming out of a spray gun) its temperature drops – quite a lot, in fact. When I drain the air from my portable compressor, for instance, the drain valve actually forms frost, even on the hottest day.
@poeticromance Yes, If you are doing home project type stuff, I would suggest a place like Harbor Freight. They sell HVLP sprayguns that connect to an air compressor.
@TheLittleWorldofGaz If you are looking for a smoother finish like a car, this is not your best choice. If your biggest concern if protecting the metal from rust, then it will be fine.
Hmm, the idea of a HVLP reminds me kinda of old soviet vacuum cleaners, which had another hole for the hose in which the air comes out and specially made for that sprayers, only they didn't have a button to start spraying so you had to turn on the vacuum cleaner to start spraying. Used to spray trees from insects and make small paint jobs, never tried it though
WolfDog375 2 weeks ago
i'm a house painter, and i wouldnt dream of using one of those things inside a home, or even outside for that matter. Talk about high maintenance. Air assisted airless, or straight airless. No fiddling with the machine. HVLP units are very touchy. They look wonderful at the product demonstrations, perfect for a workshop, NOT for a home.
wesleytarbuck 3 months ago
Smaxwell1963, I appreciated your video. I'm just starting to evaluate HVLP sprayers for cabinetry/finish work, and your demonstration also showed some other useful capabilities. Regarding moisture: Rapid compression of air results in heat as the cylinder expands. Rapid decompression, as you pointed out when you use the bleeder valve, will result in cooling -- even though the air (in both cases) is identical. Clearly, greater relevant humidity will result in more captured moisture.
ManOfGreatHeight 6 months ago
Armchair critics feed off their own rants while the rest of the world take risks, wrestles with reality and makes good things happen. Heaven help the ranters.
smaxwell1963 6 months ago 2
What's with these negative comments?
BestHVLPSprayGun 6 months ago
One things for sure, you don't know how to install a door. I can see the outside from the inside. I hope you did better on the toilet door, otherwise your nuts will be exhibited for all to see.
VertigonA380 7 months ago
Air gives off heat as it is compressed, but the heat is contained in a tank, so the compressed air in the tank is hotter than it was before compression. As it is released through the air hose it decompresses and cools, which releases moisture in your lines. With a compressor, always use a water trap as close to the gun as possible. A turbine box generates low pressure air and therefore is pretty close to ambient humidity and less likely to contain water droplets.
thenrie 8 months ago
Thanks for interesting video!
SwPiotrek 8 months ago
Physics: that the gas that is expanding (air coming out of the gun) is getting warmer, not cooler. it gets its heat from the surrounding air or any surface that it hits. This explains (in part) why your hand feels cooler when expanding air is directed at it. Your hand is losing heat to the expanding air which is getting warmer. Expanding air gets warmer and can hold more moisture. Any moisture coming out of the gun, comes from the compression stage, definitely not the expansion stage.
foggymtnbreakdown 8 months ago
fucking spastic, the paint was running in the background WHILE he is was bosting
OMGitsRYANhere 9 months ago
@OMGitsRYANhere
Geez dude, it was WATER on PAPER. The point of the exercise was purely to show the lack of over spray. Good grief.
chirpieguy 4 months ago
@chirpieguy spraying for any decent length of time with one of these things, leaves a tiny fine dust everywhere. Everything and i mean everything still has to be covered. I can get less overspray with an airless unit when operated correctly.
wesleytarbuck 3 months ago
Using A Wagner HVLP System that works better and Quicker
SuperHans1968 9 months ago
Super clear video thanks!
vpchipz 10 months ago
Thanks for the informative demo. BTW, your porch rafters and Granite wall are incredible.
ootsam 10 months ago
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amonard 1 year ago
If using a hvlp gun connected to a compressor then the compressor will need to deliver a high cfm rate to use the gun effective. If you find yourself turning up the pressure to get the gun to work right then you do not have the right compressor. Also moisture occurs when air is compressed. The HVLP system above only uses around 8 psi so you do not see the same effect as a 150 psi compressor.
amonard 1 year ago
kinda proves its total shite @ 2:41
billynightmare 1 year ago 9
"Compressors only deliver cold damp air"??? Buddy please don't lie to people just to prove some sort of point. Unless you're an idiot you always have a moisture filter for your compressor. As far as warm vs cold?? How is this true???
freshtalent26 1 year ago
Hi freshtalent26!
I have five compressors in my shop, and even though the largest is connected to a moisture filter, some moisture still comes through in humid weather – enough to cause problems with some finishes. The reason is physics. When any compressed gas expands (as air does when coming out of a spray gun) its temperature drops – quite a lot, in fact. When I drain the air from my portable compressor, for instance, the drain valve actually forms frost, even on the hottest day.
smaxwell1963 1 year ago 16
noisy!
q9tzb6wk 2 years ago
but you can use an HVLP gun with a compressor...........
poeticromance 2 years ago
@poeticromance Yes, If you are doing home project type stuff, I would suggest a place like Harbor Freight. They sell HVLP sprayguns that connect to an air compressor.
speezguy 1 year ago
Hey, i need a sprayer for spraying metal body part - would this do this or not be good enough?
thanks
TheLittleWorldofGaz 2 years ago
@TheLittleWorldofGaz If you are looking for a smoother finish like a car, this is not your best choice. If your biggest concern if protecting the metal from rust, then it will be fine.
speezguy 1 year ago