@speedoflite1 You didn't provide any grounds for how it is incorrect that FDR's policies prolonged the Gread Depression, but only engaged in vacuous insults. As you only engage in vacuous insults, you have no grounds for anything that any opponent claims or contests.
The only stooge here is you as you follow failed ideas and policies w/o any independent thought at all. Pathetic.
This is GREAT!!! I'm being attacked by the return of the tWO sTOOGES (Aegius/twoey] from the evil Cain/Bachmann campaigns.
With America's improving economic numbers published on Friday (they hated so much), life doesn't get much better. They know: As America recovers, Romney loses
Before hopping on Romney's, ahem, train, i'm warning you tWO sTOOGES [Aegius/Twoey]: that he uses his former Mass Gov. record (2003-07) of "job creation" as a campaign ploy. trick is, Mass ranked #47 in job creation in the nation then. he holds a WORSE record than former dem Gov. Mike Dukakis in job creation. ~Bureau of Labor Stats.
that's right, numbskulls, knowing how much you hate Obama's positive trending job numbers/soaring Stock Market (Fri). better look before you leap
@speedoflite1 I didn't use MA gov's record on job creation. I refer to Gov. Perry of TX who had a better track record on job creation than the rest of the country. I disapproved of Romneycare and other items of Romney, so as ALWAYS you are the real fraud in making stuff up about your opponents. Go figure. cont...
@speedoflite1 BTW, 2 professors of economics at UCLA conducted their own study on the Great Depression and stated that it lasted several years longer due to FDR's policies. They conducted the study in 2004. Are they frauds too? Answer: No. But you will call them frauds and in turn again be the REAL FRAUD here.
lol, FIRST OF ALL - you're the same rambling loser who DID Herman Cain before it was considered uncool. where's your "999" plan now? ...you see, God had something different in mind.
and if you think you have any credibility smearing the widely revered FDR. THINK AGAIN (I kicked your ass before over him, and I can do it again)
@speedoflite1 Answer my ?: Are those 2 UCLA professors frauds as they conducted a study on the Great Depression and concluded that FDR's policies caused the Great Depression to last several years longer? Are they frauds?
Don't give me Herman Cain or anything else that is irrelevant to that question.
ANSWER THE QUESTION or are you a coward?
& Frankly I KICKED YOUR ASS over FDR and will gladly do it again.
@speedoflite1 I made no lies about the 1920's tax rates. They were lower than today per Coolidge. You didn't explain how the UCLA study was invalid. How is it invalid?
@Aegius Re: UCLA study, Great Depression (being extended by FDR) queries.
I agree w/ppl who say: America has an enormously big, dymanic, ever-changing and complicated mixed market economy; that there were many factors going into GD. Tax policy was just one of many.
lol, did I hear you say (as I did) that the current 35% is historically MUCH MUCH lower than most years in our hx; 1920s for instance???
@speedoflite1 You only referred to the Harding admin, but excluded the Coolidge admin. Beginning in 1926 it was lowered to 24%. That is what i referred to. You aren't being honest as always. You provided NO GROUNDS for how the UCLA study is invalid. None.
@Aegius ANS: "Food Stamp president" was a racial/ethnic insensitive slur; by a desperate ignorant race-baiting white candidate (Newt); to a receptive (majority white) repub primary audience to that sort of thing.
repeat: no white person (incl. Newt) ever called Bush the best "Food Stamp President" when he hit the record high -14.7 mil, which was LONG BEFORE Obama ever ran for president.
Your feeble attempt to confuse the issue is equally shameful. equally offensive
@speedoflite1 "Food Stamp president" had nothing to do w/race as he referred to his own daughter preferring a job over food stamps. You're just playing the race card. Bush's increase in food stamps annually was 1/3 of Obama's as already described.
You didn't provide how the UCLA study was deemed controversial or fraudulent. Who said? What were their grounds? You provided NOTHING except your opinion and claim.
@Aegius ok, providing the name of a study is evidence(?) that you provided the name of a study. so here's what happened next {scroll down} I said: you or ANYONE else can research the details of why that study was deemed controversial/flawed.
then I said: "you or ANYONE can research the self serving right wing motivations to discredit FDR's New Deal policies."
now I'm saying: put two and two together, then post it. Violà! EVIDENCE
@speedoflite1 Actually for Lefties like you Food stamps has to do w/race as you equate food stamps w/Blacks and others and hard-working and productive ppl as Whites. Hence you are showing yourselves to be the real racists here.
We on the Right refer to food stamps as Democrats regardless of race and acknowledge that most ppl on food stamps are Caucasian.
Real racists = The Left. Real Fascists = the Left. Real sexists = the Left.
@Aegius 1. Not only was it FACTUALLY INCORRECT, racial/ethnically divisive and insensitive slur by a desperate ignorant race-baiting white candidate, it was highly disrespectful to the office of the presidency.
2. Beneath the minimum standard of civil discourse that all Americans should
expect by someone running for president of ALL the ppl.
3. There's no account for your ignorance or your Left/Right double standard shallowness
@speedoflite1 If you look at the mean increase of Americans who got on food stamps of Obama yearly, then it is factually correct. It was NOT a racial slur as he referred to his own daughter and it is okay to criticize Obama. Newt and others have the right to do so. Civil discourse? This coming from Lefties who engage ad nauseum in ad hominem attacks. LMAO!
@Aegius Reagan voted for FDR all 4 times he was elected President. His family, dems/Lefties all, supported the New Deal. He himself was grateful to FDR for providing work for his father/brother in ND programs. He typified millions of Americans who actually lived thru the GD, and who appreciated FDR's pragmatic/PRICELESS leadership.
Reagan was NOT an uncompromising far right loon (not even as repub president - 1980s), and there's no way you can revise his voting record on that either.
@speedoflite1 Reagan was a Democrat until 1964. What does that have to do w/ whether or not FDR's policies caused the Depression to last several years longer and debunk the UCLA study that came to that conclusion? Answer: Nothing. Your speculation proved nothing as well. You still have provided NO EVIDENCE over if and how the UCLA study is flawed or fraudulent. NOTHING. Try again.
& in your next attempt deal w/the study and the Great Depression, NOT Ronald Reagan.
@Aegius Let me explain. The only reason why I told you to stick that one UCLA study up your ass, is because I want you to make room for a much broader study of FDR/New Deal, as follows:
An overwhelming majority of those who lived through the Great Depression, revere
FDR as a hero and his ND policies as a life line of hope through hard times. Most historians/scholars rank him within the top 5 of all U.S. presidents for his leadership abilities, etc.
@speedoflite1 Oh contrare, Obama sees hiimself as a better president that FDR...just ask him. Obama says he deserves a second term even though he said he didn't earlier. If Obama gets a second term the Dollar and Monopoly money will be equal value and we will be Greece. Your choice. If America has been dumbed down so badly that you and others give Obama a second term, we deserve the calamity that is on its way. Pelosi..."we need to pass this bill to see what's in it."
@Aegius a UCLA study of REPUB GOD Ronald Reagan would show:
(SPENT) averaged 22.4% GDP during two terms (FY 1981-88), well above the 20.6% GDP average from 1971 to 2009; the public debt rose from 26% GDP in 1980 to 41% GDP by 1988.
(VOTED) for FDR/New Deal policies, four times: 1932, '36, '42 & '48.
if alive today, he'd probably say: fu far right tea party. that's right, FU!
@speedoflite1 If you think for a nano second that Reagan would approve of your Dictator in Chief...dream on Truman. How's your Obama Egypt working out today?? Taking Americans hostage and we are still giving them money....only Obama could accomplish that and still have the media praising him.
@twosulcata if you're asking if I think Reagan would feel comfortable with the current far right uncompromising repub party, or whether he could easily win a repub primary today? - HECK NO!!!
...Reagan was articulate, confident, knowledgeable, and had a more positive view of America. even his political opponents liked him early on because of that.
@twosulcata You were wrong on Speedo. He isn't a weasel. He is the KING of weasels. When I challenged him on FDR's failure on the Great Depression, initially he talked about WWII and his legacy(which now leads us to $62+ trillion in unfunded liabilities and 1:3 Americans gets Medicaide and 44.7 million Americans on food stamps.
@Aegius But for FDR/New Deal, America could have stayed adrift in fear, despair
and hopeless; we may have eventually turned to communism, fascism, or some other extreme form of govt. Since FDR's time, however, most Americans have worked to preserve his legacy (social safety net) in our lives.
Your challenge [Aegius] is to get Mr. Romney to openly run a campaign against Obama to "dismantle FDR's legacy/America's safety net."
@speedoflite1 Aegius owns you. Just get over it. Only a real idiot cannot see your "Tryforgettin" mentality. I especially liked Rush's rendition of Eastwood's commercial....you should give it a listen. Most of America has heard it. Again how about Obama's Egypt? How's that working out??? What no response...again? Admit it your just weak and have a big crush on Obama like Chris Matthews. Looking for that old thrill again.....
@twosulcata lol, that's what I like about you tWO sTOOGES [Aegius/twoey]. you can take several vicious hammer blows to the head, then pretend like nothing happened.
@speedoflite1 Like a true liberal. You think you hit me, you just missed as usual but tell everyone what a hero you are. Kinda like Obama telling the world he saved Egypt and killed Osama. AND what about Santorum, my horse, and three wins today!!! You are crapping your panties right now.....Where's the thrill now Truman? You NEVER address Obama's spending of 6 TRILLION on WHAT??????? The total spin on the unemployment numbers. 1.2 million just quit looking..not counted now??
@speedoflite1 Arrogance again is a part of your libeal personality. I too am a music lover and have played most woodwinds, clarinet and soprano sax mostly, in several groups and do so to this day. Another sign of a liberal,,,they think they are always better and above the other people.
@speedoflite1 Hey Truman...""Righter of Wrongs." Why won't you comment on Obama's Egypt or the American hostages there under the Obama approved regime that we still give money to? What about the murders in
Arizona because Obama won't secure the borders? Oh but wait he is still suing AZ for trying to do what he won't do.....by design. You won't respond to the issues, but run like the little girl you are. What about Reid and his dirty water comments? What an idiot...
@twosulcata Wrong to mention Egypt, the American hostages (despite whatever covert action that might be underway) w/o once mentioning any of Obama's successes in keeping America safe: counter-terrorism policy: killing Bin Laden and other high value extremists to decimate al Qaeda in Afghanistan; rescue of hostages in Somalia; Libya freedom operation from Qaddafi; withdrawal our troops from Iraq; keeping Amer relevant on human rights and better regarded around our (fast changing) world.
@speedoflite1 Never forget Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact. Yet Obama the beauty queen comes and takes all the credit...as usual. I at least do credit Obama for pulling trigger and taking the chance on the mission. You think Iraq is going to turn out any different than Egypt?? Really?? I think Obama in large part owns a great deal of what the middle east is now due to his policy. We will see..
@twosulcata "Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact." LIAR!!!
Even you should provide Panetta's quote to prove me wrong. And, riddle me this JOKER! - how would anyone know that we actually "got Osama", w/o Obama deciding correctly among other ways of killing him in hostile/sovereign territory, while still controlling and preserving undisputed evidence of his death?
@speedoflite1 You know it's facinating when Obama's own defense sec, says without the intel from the Bush admin. they would not have had the intel to get osama. Even when your own guy says so , you deny it. What a doushe!!! I still would like SOMEONE to ask Obama why he made Van Jones a Czar in his cabinet when Jones admits he is a marxist. If only the state run media would do something right once in a great while. Not holding my breath........
@speedoflite1 I expect an apology from you after you read this...facts are your greatest enemy. The source is The Telegrah May 4 2011 interview Toby Harnden. Panetta admits the intel to get Osama came from EIT. Again what about Vam Jones? Tell me why Obama employs an admitted marxist in his cabinet? The Dictator in Chief issues an edict that all business including Catholic Hospitals must provide abortion and contraception. Obamacare..you must buy gov healthcare..fine/jail.
@twosulcata "I expect an apology from you after you read this".... "Being on the Left means never having to say you're sorry." Have Lefties apologized to Palin, Tea Party, talk radio, etc for blaming them for that lunatic Jared Loughner? No. Have Lefties apologize for their pathetic fuss over Gitmo? No. Have Lefties apologized for the lies of heterosexual AIDS, global warming and other hoaxes? No. Did they even apologize for blaming the assassination of JFK on Right-wingers? No.
@twosulcata you also said: "I at least do credit Obama for pulling trigger and taking the chance on the mission."
with your track record of Obama derangement syndrome, and your laundry list of inflammatory references to his presidency: "socialist", "Marxist", "dictator in Chief"; you must know what you can do with your "credit."
lol...it's not pretty, my fair weather friend. as seen here: ( o )
@twosulcata I recall the truth of what Bush (who FAILED) said vs. what Obama (who SUCEEDED) said about the mission of killing or capturing Bin Laden. it goes exactly like this
....and remember, it was that a##hole, vice president Dick Cheney who said Obama didn't "understand" the attack of 9/11 and the war on terror.
@speedoflite1 Obama killed OBL per Bush era policies: Water-boarding, intelligence networks and drones. So yes, he succeeded via Bush policies which did succeed at stopping 100s of terrorist attacks and killing 1000s of terrorists. Notice that Camp X-Ray is still up? Yes, Obama has been using Bush policies, so I congratulate him for being like Bush.
@twosulcata [Just six months after 9/11], 3/13/2002, Bush's gave a press conference saying Osama was not a top priority for his admin. Asked if he thought Osama was important, Bush scolded those who cared about Osama for not “understanding the scope of the mission.”
@twosulcata "Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not. We haven't heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me ppl don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He's just a person who's been marginalized. ...I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you." - Bush 3/13/02
@twosulcata On 10/7/2008 debate with John McCain, Obama announced:
"And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out.
We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”
BOOYAH!!! - this means, twoey, that you can stick your "credit" up your hiney hole where you belong all along. don't bother coming out
@speedoflite1 All the while Obama is in front of the Muslum Bro. in Egypt...Al Qaida and supports them???? What gives? You say Obama wants to crush Al Qaida and yet he supprts what's going on in the Middle East? Nothing but optics. Obama won't even try to defend our southern border...while he sues AZ for trying to do it themselves. You are both idiots.
@twosulcata Who is this "Vam Jones" person? and why do you keep "name dropping" his name to me. It can't get you into the W.H., even if I did know why he's supposed to be important to me somehow.
What's this stuff about an edict to Catholic Hosps on abortion and contraception.
I demand that you post the Obama quote that supports your bogus lie on that as well. Otherwise, stuff it! ... here's how: ( o )
@speedoflite1 BTW, on torture, REAL TORTURE. R-rating, brace yourself as you have been warned:
Cat O'9 Tails, drill going up your colon, deliberate dehydration. whipping, Iron Maiden(case w/spikes inside. Victim put inside it.), Brazen bull(hollow brass bull. Victim put inside as it is heated up by fire), skull splitter, breast ripper, sawing of the victim.
Do you want to compare any of that to water-boarding? If so, you're a moron.
@Aegius To clarify, twoey said: "Never forget Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact."
I asked him to prove Panetta said just that, ["Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin"].
And now the well known weasel needs to cough it up, or admit defeat.
@Aegius your claim that "Waterboarding at best is scary, but there is no physical harm or trauma. Waterboarding is NOT illegal in USA, so hence you were really lying here. & Immoral? In most instances yes, but apparently it may work in certain instances." WRONG
This is so absolutely full of SHIT! - it ain't funny. It's contradicted by common sense and so many other sources - it ain't funny. ie., Leon Panetta's ltr of 5/911, John McCain's Senate Floor Speech 5/12/11, etc.
@Aegius Waterboarding (simulated drowning/oxygen deprivation) is a form of TORTURE dating back to at least the Spanish Inquisition; widely recognized in USA and around the world as illegal, cruel, immoral, inhumane, ineffective, provides false and misleading information, etc.
@speedoflite1 It's Van Jones and you know it and you can't deny that Obama appointed him in his cabinet and knew he is was and still is an admitted and proud marxist. Period. Really it's the only reason I post with an idiot like you so some may see the sheer lunacy and liar you are. Even with the facts as usual you still deny who Obama is. That's fine, it only shows your obvious denial of truth. The 2010 elections will be repeated in about 260 days. You are the real loser.
@twosulcata Make up your mind, is it "Vam Jones" or "Van Jones"? (after struggling with that riddle even in your own pint-sized political partisan skull) why proceed to dictate what "I know" and what "I can't deny"??? you tell me, Mr. Dicktator-head!!!
The 2010 midterm elections can't be repeated in 2012; no more than any other election in America. no do-overs, and besides "what's done is done." The good news is, you've LOST already by picking Bachmann. LOSER
@speedoflite1 You are simply a coward. It's that simple. You won't reply about Van Jones because you know he is a marxist and Obama appointed him. The 2010 elections were a 70 year historic election, not just a normal midterm you idiot. 2012 will be the same because America has said hell no to you and Obama's agenda. Remember the last Obama "budget?" Voted down 97 to zero. Much like the worthless one he gave today. Reid won't even introduce it so McConnell will have to.
@twosulcata Why keep changing the subject by forcing "Van Jones" out your butt?
as seen here: ( o ). it stinks, if you ask me.
he's NOT of my generation...and I doubt he's a major power player in the Obama Admin or well known coast to coast; or else I'd have more to say [one way or the other]. I cross-checked his name for anything prescient locally, and he came up dry there too.
@twosulcata Why inject Van Jones, 2010 elections & whatnot into our debate about Leon Panetta, w/o admitting you lied about him saying: "Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin."
fact: you literally put your own wishful thinking lies in Panetta's mouth, which he NEVER said!
@speedoflite1 Panetta said it and you know it...and that's the end of the debate. You have the sources to verify. It's not my fault you lack the intelligence to understand what he said. Try again. But just to deny is another stupid liberal socialist default. My horse Santorum is doing quite well...thank you!!!! Your biggest nightmare.
@twosulcata Panetta NEVER said what you said he said. you lied and then tried to cover it up.
not just me, but both Leon Panetta (dem) and later John McCain {repub - from the senate floor} shitted all over YOU and your rationale for EIT/torture. you were doubly screwed by them (both parties). ...that's the funny part
@speedoflite1 Alas I have figured out who you really are!!! You are Maxine Walters!! You know the liberal "socialist" who called R "demons" among many other things. I guess you didn't get Obama's memo about "civil" discussion. I thought you liberals tried to reach across the isle, yet you say you never want to see their faces again. What gives?? Have you heard of Media Matters and what they have done? Shame shame....Coward day four Van Jones.
@twosulcata So, no, don't go, "not not" explaining why you're dropping your all-Bachmann threats against America. Is this permanent, or just a temporary fling with another man for your own personal political gain?
and don't make that move; seen here: ( o ), "not not" without admitting the many flaws and failings that made her such an unacceptable presidential candidate from the start.
@twosulcata I'm bemused by your comparison between Bachmann and Howard Dean. [Based on one ill-advised shriek at a campaign rally], Dean was considered weird/unstable and was promptly shunned out of contention by some of his fervent supporters (Deaniacs) at the time. While Bachmann personified divisiveness and "instability"- a virtual unapologetic gaffe machine fruitcake bomb-thrower, all during her presidential bid, with your foolish support throughout.
@twosulcata "Romney did nothing that Kerry, and Biden do not do and is legal."
but we're not talking about Kerry, Biden are we? (rejecting 10:1 spending cut to tax hike ratio & coddling the already rich, while damning safety net programs) plus, barely "legal" is never the standard in the presidential sweepstakes - now is it?!!
We're talking about Romney saying "um humanah humanah" in 2012, when asked to release a 12-year hx of returns as his dad did. get it straight u idiot.
@speedoflite1 That's right, we're NOT talking about Biden and kerry BECAUSE when they ran it never entererd to mind of the state rum media to ask the same questions that are asked of conservatives!! When Biden did release his return we did find he gave a whopping $369 to charity!! Whew! Compared to Romney's 7.5 MILLION. "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Thacher.
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT Well thankfully you are the SEVERE minority in America. You are a socialist or marxist based on your opinions and your inablility to use civil language that isn't based in vulgarity. Your default is anyone that doesn't think like you is a bigot and a racist. Sorry that has no traction anymore with anyone who still has half a brain...you don't. Maybe you can tell me why Obama appointed Van Jones, an admitted marxist to his cabinet? Speedo can't.
@speedoflite1 OK. You seem not not understand that Bachman is not in the race anymore. Kind of like Dean quit as well as Clinton. Do you understand now??? I tried to make it simple for you. I wonder if you liked Clinton over Obama in '08 if you said to yourself,"well crap Clinton lost I can't support anybody?" You might well have but I have not. I like Santorum a lot and if he is the R man...Awesome!!! Coward day three..Van Jones Obama's cabinet marxist??
@twosulcata "You seem not not understand that Bachman is not in the race anymore."
Au contraire, mon frère illiterate - because Bachmann is so clearly out, and Michigan so clearly in play, how can I "not not" let you hop onto the Santorum bandwagon without delay. seen here: ( 0 ) have fun!
Both Bachmann and Santorum are Sexist, Homophobes, bigots and Racists ! to be honest i actually think ALL independents and Republicans are that way , as Liberal Democrats i believe we are superior and they are all inferior to us, Anyone who isnt a Liberal Democrat is anti American and a traitor to our country
@speedoflite1 Try again on the UCLA study and don't give me what historians stated or what popular sentiment was, b/c it states NOTHING over the success or failures of his policies. FDR's own Secretary of Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. stated in 1937 that FDR's policies were failures. Most Western nations has LOWER unemployment rates than USA in the latter 1930's. Those are FACTS about the economy which you did NOT provide at all on. It's really pathetic.
@Aegius Many intel experts, ordinary Americans, others around the world; question the effectiveness of Water-boarding (torture) vs. standard interrogation techniques. Most everyone admits that waterboading is torture and thus ILLEGAL, wrong, immoral, counterproductive. Bush Admin did everything possible to change the definition of the word to confuse the debate and escape liability. just ask John McCain
@speedoflite1 I didn't lie at all. The info to get OBL came from waterboarding an inmate at Gitmo which is hardly torture. Try Cat O'9 Tails or drills up the colon. Waterboarding at best is scary, but there is no physical harm or trauma. Waterboarding is NOT illegal in USA, so hence you were really lying here. & Immoral? In most instances yes, but apparently it may work in certain instances.
Again you provided nothing; same as Great Depression. GO figure. You're pathetic.
@Aegius Like any smart, pragmatic, rational human being, President Obama learned from the many mistakes of his predecessor Bush, and tried to build upon (smarten up) the things Bush did right, w/the hand he was dealt.
Military and Intel matters are complicated, and each have entrenched bureaucratic power bases in Wash D.C., incl. but not limited to Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DEA, Interpol, etc. Obama is doing as well as one might expect in making the positive changes we'd all like to see.
@speedoflite1 Again, you didn't refer to any of Bush's mistakes and now you concede that Bush did some things right, which Obama built upon. No kidding. That's how Obama got OBL: Bush era policies. Deal w/it and stop obfuscating.
@Aegius read Wash Post article: "The national debt would balloon under tax policies championed by three of the four major Republican candidates for president, according to an independent analysis of tax and spending proposals so far offered by the campaigns. The lone exception is Texas Rep. Ron Paul," ....
source: U.S. Budget Watch report dated 2/23/12, a bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
@speedoflite1 The nat'l debt has ballooned big time under Obama more than any peace-time president since FDR. THat's a fact, not estimates. We can't afford his out-of-control spending anymore. What gives?
According to Reuters(Not Fox News) Obama's budget would increase nat'l debt by $6 trillion over the next 10 years.
& your response: You're a racist, b/c you don't like Obama b/c he is Black.
@Aegius bipartisan report said: Santorum and Gingrich would do the most harm to the nation, offering tax/spending policies likely to require trillions of dollars in fresh borrowing.
Both men propose sharp tax cuts but haven't identified spending cuts sufficient to make up for the lost cash. "By 2021, the debt would rise approx $4.5 trillion under Santorum and approx $7 trillion under Gingrich, pushing the portion of the debt held by outside investors to well over 100% of the economy."
@Aegius I know you only like the studies you agree with, but I thought this "bipartisan" study would help all you "999" castaways weed thru the bullshit of the remaining repub candidates.
@Aegius Jeb Bush: "I used to be a conservative and I watch these debates and I'm wondering, I don't think I've changed, but it's a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective and that's kind of where we are."
glad he finally spoke out, but shudda named names and been far more specific. its hardly enough for the die hard koolaid sTOOGES such as yourself [Aegius].
“We had multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation… clearly some of it came from detainees [and] they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of those detainees,” he[Leon Panetta] told NBC anchor Brian Williams. "Torturous evasions," By Neil Munro from the Daily Caller.
@Aegius McCain criticized former Atty Gen Michael Mukasey for saying that waterboarding of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed led investigators to the courier who ferried information to and from bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan.
Mukasey has said Mohammed “broke like a dam” during the 183 waterboardings performed on him.
“That is false,” McCain said, citing a report from CIA director Leon Panetta who said the courier’s identity was obtained elsewhere.
@speedoflite1 You believe anything McCain says??? Crap, even I didn't do that . Coward...day three about Van Jones. You won't admit the obvious that the state run media won't even address but I will. Again Obama apppointed an admitted marxist to his cabinet. Your denial does not make it so. Your arch enemy...THE TRUTH. Why won't Reid introduce Obama's great new bugdet ? Why can't we get a vote on his wonderful and azaming budget? All cowards and America sees it.
@twosulcata Maxine Waters? Van Jones? Media Maters? ... I'm hearing any and everything but your apology for lying about Panetta.
Do some personal accounting first ~ you lil weasel, then you can track down the other stuff, wherever it leads you. seen here: ( o ) ...already told you I don't know Van Jones. I doubt he's a key power player (military, budget, foreign policy) in the W.H./current adm or I'd know. so why do you keep beatin' some point to death with me?
@speedoflite1 You won't address Van Jones because you know who he is...that simple. You don't know Van Jones????Another lie...that simple. Where there are rules and there are liberals...there are no rules. That's about to change this Nov. Just wait until the next Pres tells you libs "go sit in the back of the bus...you can come along for the ride" like Obama did to the R. You got what you wanted...watch what happens now. Panetta told the truth..that's your problem.....
@twosulcata even tho I've admitted REPEATEDLY that I don't know "Van Jones or Vam Jones"... (you say) that I should address him because (you say) I know who he is...
twoey, u are so unfreakinunbelievable - it ain't funny. I cannot address what I know nothing about. And I'm even less interested now than ever. ...that simple.
better economic numbers are good for America and Obama. ...bad for you & the Repubs
@speedoflite1 Okay while you are really lying it's easy to see about Van Jones. The FACTS: Obama appointed Van Jones to his Cabinet and Van Jones is an admitted marxist. Now what about these facts are hard to understand? Obama hears the counsel of admitted marxists. Fact. Unless you can believe that Obama can attend a church for 20 years and not understand what the "pastor" is saying? l only post this to expose your lying agenda and well as Obama's. Americans see it. 2012
@speedoflite1Let's see!! Better economic numbers??? What is the REAL unemployment number??? IF you add the number that are STILL looking AND the number that have QUIT looking AND the number that have run out of 99 WEEKS OF OBAMA GOV subsidy the REAL number is about 15%. So if you are talking about the state run Obama propaganda numbers, yes it is going down but totally wrong. Why are more houses being foreclosed on, more on food stamps if the economy is so much better??
@twosulcata Affirmative. you can ask and answer your own Van Jones questions; mumble stupid nothings about Van Jones to yourself, or stick your head up your favorite Van Jones private part. seen here: ( o )
@twosulcata repub candidates are very much encouraged to (be consistent) and campaign on whatever REAL numbers that were used to measure any president. Mr. Romney can keep bragging how terribly broke America is, while shipping his mega millions overseas, and release (12) years of tax returns like his dad did while running to be our president.
the truth shall set us free. America is coming back! GM is #1 AGAIN!!!
@speedoflite1 GM record profits..still owes Americans bilions... discontinue pensions to 9,000 white collar workers. Fair?? I will never own a GM union stolen Obama led gov business. America is broke. We borrow .42 of every dollar. Romney did nothing that Kerry, and Biden do not do and is legal idiot. Wall Street is nothing more than gov chosen winners and losers paid for by 5 TRILLION of gov borrowed debt. America gets it...you don't, but you will this NOV!!!!
@twosulcata I posted "REAL" stock market high numbers, but you naturally (took the bait) by responding with a losing lying message that will serve Romney quite poorly out on the campaign trail; especially Mich. thanks sucker
I wonder what your response wudda been had the market posted record lows at this time. fact: conservative radio (Hannity, et al.) attacked and blamed Obama directly when the market was down, but now they're totally mum.
@twosulcata "What is the REAL unemployment number??? ... the REAL number is about 15%."
had Bush/Obama let our auto industry go bust, I'm sure you'd cheer "REAL" unemployment numbers well above the "15%" out of spite for Obama. note: it wasn't just U.S. auto industry [jobs] at stake, but all the [jobs] associated with parts-suppliers, dealers & distributors where in peril; that gained bipartisan support among other compelling factors during global recession. u idiot
@speedoflite1 We should celebrate today in honor your your beloved socialist FDR!! This is the anniversary when he signed the executive order to intern all Japanese Americans....not to mention German and Italian. And isn't S.S. doing well today...that beloved socialist program that has my account with all the money I have contributed. Biggest ponzi scheme in American history. Santorum is your biggest nightmare and doing well. 20% agree with you....that's it. 2012.
@twosulcata "when they ran it never entererd to mind of the state rum media to ask the same questions that are asked of conservatives!!" ...blah, blah, blah
wtf? your spelling, sentence structure, and lack of a coherent thought (below) is piss poor. ...more than ever before, i'd say.
@speedoflite1 Well the grammar police are back. I'd say that's another bullseye when that's all you complain about. It's a good thing I could care less about Trump and what he thinks about Santorum because it doesn't matter. And is it not interesting that as usual, democrats give as little as possible and still think they are the big givers? Romney 7.5 Million and Biden $369.00!!! You never get it but America does. "Kicking my ass"....just meaningless words....as usual.
@speedoflite1 You continually waste your posts with stupid isssues. Don't think for a second I value your childish attempts to degrade other people. It just shows your heart and mindset. It also shows you have nothing to say but slurs, lies and rhetoric. I only post with you to show anyone who comes along the real difference betrween right and wrong. You are in the >20% group btw. What?? No snappy comback about FDR'S internment holiday yesterday? Your socialist hero....
@speedoflite1 I remember you were awfully excited and proud that Obama has raised Wall Street to great numbers. You know when a republican did that the media called us fat cats and in bed with the bankers. Funny how that narrative is only used against EVIL REPUBLICANS but never against Obama. So really Obama is now the OWS nightmare since he has become the great friend of Wall Street and Rich Bankers. BP biggest reciever of money was ....OBAMA. Who knew??? State Run Media.
are you totally ignorant to the fact that George Romney in 1968 was the 1st presidential candidate to VOLUNTARILY release his tax returns; in fact 12 years worth as a show of good faith and to answer questions about his wealth.
its been a fairly standard question of candidates ever since, regardless party affiliation.
@speedoflite1 the real gift and you know it is Romney.............your state run medias assingnment is to lie and destroy the R and of couse praise Obama at every turn. "useful idiot" you are. Come on, no celebration for FDR and jailing Japanese American citizens?????????
@speedoflite1 Van Jones is just one of many that are in the bowels that the state run media has never reported on. Obama thinks that if Jesus were alive he would "raise the taxes on the rich." You idiots still try to make this election about contraception,,,keep going. You are making sooooo many enemies of so many Americans. Can't wait for NOV. Obama still has about 250 days to destroy America.
@speedoflite1 That's for making my point. Another ten people now are seeing who Van Jones is and that Obama appointed him to his cabinet as an admitted marxist. Guess that kinda makes Obama's thinking on the same level...hummmm. You still haven't celebrated with me about your hero FDR and his internment anniversary on Feb 20 including but not limited to jailing Japanese Americans.
@speedoflite1 Your reply is that of a seventh grade girl....Maxine. Hey another thing. Gas prices are at historical highs for this time of year. Another Obama first. Yet the state run media says NOTHING!!!!! I remmeber when gas prices went high during Bush and do you remember when every day the media murdered him for it with every kind of reason from he wanted them to be high as well as He and Chaney were making millions off the increases. Of couse all lies. MEDIA LIES. YOU
@speedoflite1 You can barely wipe your own butt much less anything else. You are so funny to imply that you win because you correct a typo!!! What a joke!! Maxine, you a scared little pimply girl...and a coward. Van Jones is still a marxist as well as Obama...he hired him. Obama still borrows/prints/steals .42 of every dollar!!! And you think just raising taxes will make it all go away??? You are so beat this NOV that you will really need professional help. Good luck
@OurDemocratRaceCard PLEASE keep posting because it shows your utter disdain for America and when you do it shifts independent votes for the GOP. Your ignorance and hatred is sad. Haven't even noticed Speedo accepting your sick views,,,but he may be a closet supporter.
@OurDemocratRaceCard keep talking, and there will be ample evidence for anyone to believe that you're a nutjob. ans is: don't just ask me. I think you already know where the loony bin is
@twosulcata "REAL" Wallstreet numbers, representing 4-year highs as of Fri close, 2/17:
DOW 12949.87
NASDAQ 2951.78
S & P 1361.23
"socialist Obama" label doesn't fit at all. these numbers are undeniably good, and historically pretty darn impressive for ANY president to have on his watch.
@twosulcata "GM record profits..still owes Americans bilions... discontinue pensions to 9,000 white collar workers. Fair??"
ask Romney. he has a "yes"/"no" nonprincipled stance on bailouts:
Bank bailout - "Yes"
GM bailout - "No"
Olympic Winter Games bailout - "Yes"
GM is #1 (profitable) AGAIN! Romney looks even more awkweird than usual while campaigning in Mich. Repubs and Dems widely supported the auto bailout there, and he can't hide his record. ...Fairly funny (imo)
@speedoflite1 cont... Now who were among the detainees? Answer: Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was water-boarded, to get info from. Now which admin got KSM? Answer: Bush's. As stated, I congratulate Obama for having killed that Arab version of Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, by using Bush era techniques including water-boarding, Gitmo and intelligence established under Bush.
@Aegius John McCain's Senate Floor Speech, 5/12/11
"I believe some of these practices – especially waterboarding, which is a mock execution, and thus to me, indisputably torture – are and should be prohibited in a nation that is exceptional in its defense and advocacy of human rights.
"I believe they are a violation of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions, all of which forbid cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of all captured combatants, whether they wear the uniform of a country or are essentially stateless."
@speedoflite1 The truth is that you're really pathetic. You called me a fraud for stating that FDR's policies caused the GD to last 7+ years longer. I provided evidence & then you went on about WWII & FDR's legacy, which initially I made NO COMMENT on & weren't relevant to my claims. You didn't address ANY of my facts or data and then continued to call me a fraud based upon non-sequitors or irrelevancies. You are 1 of the most pathetic debaters that I have ever met. You're a joke.
@Aegius lol, don't have any more time to waste Aegius. you can practice waterboarding yourself if you want, which is acceptable to me under the circumstances
here's how: ( o )
gotta go walk the dogs, and then its fancy dinner and a movie tonite out on the town. be back tommr. bye
@twosulcata 1) what portion of 6 trillion equals ext of Bush tax cuts demanded by opposition under threat of govt shut down/debt default??? 2) what is the commonly accepted/published unemployment number-criteria (rep or dem in W.H.); U3 or U6???
what portion of 1.2 mil is the consequence of Bush legacy/continual repub obstructionism in not passing Obama job bill, etc.???
@speedoflite1 Oh and one more thing. You need not comment about Reagan. Your senseless drivel and spin about who you think he is, is really commentary on how really brain dead you are. Your assertion Reagan would be more akin to side with OWS and not the Tea Party is simply absurd. Air Traffic Controllers?????????? You really need to see the America for what it is and not what your Dictator in Chief and you want it to be.
@twosulcata as News Junkie Extraordinaire - Righter of Wrongs lemme start by saying:
Wrong to address me as "Hey Truman" who died in 1972. Right to begin with "Hey, speed" in seeking my opinion/your enlightenment on current events (Egypt, American hostages, AZ border security...)
the simple reasonable option was available to you all along. obviously idiot
@speedoflite1 Do not flatter yourself. I call you "Truman" because you live in a very fragile bubble. If you recall based on the Jim Carey movie "Truman." I need you "elightenment" as much as I need Chris Matthews "thrill up his leg" or a sack race with Moochelle and Jimmy Fallon.
america up
eric90731 20 hours ago
GREAT nite for Santorum - the most consistent conservative.
Romney - the most consistent greedy
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
congrats GIANTS!!! great grab #82, ...great grab/boring game
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
Patriots will win Super Bowl XLVI. -CST 4:22 p.m. good luck both sides
God bless America!!!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
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@speedoflite1 You didn't provide any grounds for how it is incorrect that FDR's policies prolonged the Gread Depression, but only engaged in vacuous insults. As you only engage in vacuous insults, you have no grounds for anything that any opponent claims or contests.
The only stooge here is you as you follow failed ideas and policies w/o any independent thought at all. Pathetic.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
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Aegius 2 weeks ago
Go Patriots
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
Go Patriots
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
This is GREAT!!! I'm being attacked by the return of the tWO sTOOGES (Aegius/twoey] from the evil Cain/Bachmann campaigns.
With America's improving economic numbers published on Friday (they hated so much), life doesn't get much better. They know: As America recovers, Romney loses
onward America!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
Before hopping on Romney's, ahem, train, i'm warning you tWO sTOOGES [Aegius/Twoey]: that he uses his former Mass Gov. record (2003-07) of "job creation" as a campaign ploy. trick is, Mass ranked #47 in job creation in the nation then. he holds a WORSE record than former dem Gov. Mike Dukakis in job creation. ~Bureau of Labor Stats.
that's right, numbskulls, knowing how much you hate Obama's positive trending job numbers/soaring Stock Market (Fri). better look before you leap
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 I didn't use MA gov's record on job creation. I refer to Gov. Perry of TX who had a better track record on job creation than the rest of the country. I disapproved of Romneycare and other items of Romney, so as ALWAYS you are the real fraud in making stuff up about your opponents. Go figure. cont...
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 BTW, 2 professors of economics at UCLA conducted their own study on the Great Depression and stated that it lasted several years longer due to FDR's policies. They conducted the study in 2004. Are they frauds too? Answer: No. But you will call them frauds and in turn again be the REAL FRAUD here.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius i'm wrong? 1920s? Perry? Hoover? marginal tax rates? UCLA?
lol, FIRST OF ALL - you're the same rambling loser who DID Herman Cain before it was considered uncool. where's your "999" plan now? ...you see, God had something different in mind.
and if you think you have any credibility smearing the widely revered FDR. THINK AGAIN (I kicked your ass before over him, and I can do it again)
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Answer my ?: Are those 2 UCLA professors frauds as they conducted a study on the Great Depression and concluded that FDR's policies caused the Great Depression to last several years longer? Are they frauds?
Don't give me Herman Cain or anything else that is irrelevant to that question.
ANSWER THE QUESTION or are you a coward?
& Frankly I KICKED YOUR ASS over FDR and will gladly do it again.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius lol, trotting out your same ole spin, lies and half truhs (1920s tax rate, flawed UCLA study) doesn't make them any more true.
so if you're asking me, if I think you're full of sh##, then my answer would be "YES!!!"
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Facts for Liberal suck, don't they. They just don't fit the Chris Matthews narrative. You need the drug "Tryforgettin."
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 I made no lies about the 1920's tax rates. They were lower than today per Coolidge. You didn't explain how the UCLA study was invalid. How is it invalid?
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius Re: UCLA study, Great Depression (being extended by FDR) queries.
I agree w/ppl who say: America has an enormously big, dymanic, ever-changing and complicated mixed market economy; that there were many factors going into GD. Tax policy was just one of many.
lol, did I hear you say (as I did) that the current 35% is historically MUCH MUCH lower than most years in our hx; 1920s for instance???
1920 - 73%
1921 - 73%
1923 - 56%
1924 - 46%
I think NOT
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 You only referred to the Harding admin, but excluded the Coolidge admin. Beginning in 1926 it was lowered to 24%. That is what i referred to. You aren't being honest as always. You provided NO GROUNDS for how the UCLA study is invalid. None.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius ANS: "Food Stamp president" was a racial/ethnic insensitive slur; by a desperate ignorant race-baiting white candidate (Newt); to a receptive (majority white) repub primary audience to that sort of thing.
repeat: no white person (incl. Newt) ever called Bush the best "Food Stamp President" when he hit the record high -14.7 mil, which was LONG BEFORE Obama ever ran for president.
Your feeble attempt to confuse the issue is equally shameful. equally offensive
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 "Food Stamp president" had nothing to do w/race as he referred to his own daughter preferring a job over food stamps. You're just playing the race card. Bush's increase in food stamps annually was 1/3 of Obama's as already described.
You didn't provide how the UCLA study was deemed controversial or fraudulent. Who said? What were their grounds? You provided NOTHING except your opinion and claim.
I provided direct evidence. You provide nothing.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius ok, providing the name of a study is evidence(?) that you provided the name of a study. so here's what happened next {scroll down} I said: you or ANYONE else can research the details of why that study was deemed controversial/flawed.
then I said: "you or ANYONE can research the self serving right wing motivations to discredit FDR's New Deal policies."
now I'm saying: put two and two together, then post it. Violà! EVIDENCE
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@Aegius oops! I shouldn't call you a "lil snot-nosed punk" before answering the basic conservative question: WHAT WOULD REAGAN DO?
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Actually for Lefties like you Food stamps has to do w/race as you equate food stamps w/Blacks and others and hard-working and productive ppl as Whites. Hence you are showing yourselves to be the real racists here.
We on the Right refer to food stamps as Democrats regardless of race and acknowledge that most ppl on food stamps are Caucasian.
Real racists = The Left. Real Fascists = the Left. Real sexists = the Left.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius 1. Not only was it FACTUALLY INCORRECT, racial/ethnically divisive and insensitive slur by a desperate ignorant race-baiting white candidate, it was highly disrespectful to the office of the presidency.
2. Beneath the minimum standard of civil discourse that all Americans should
expect by someone running for president of ALL the ppl.
3. There's no account for your ignorance or your Left/Right double standard shallowness
4. I applaud the backlash he got!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 If you look at the mean increase of Americans who got on food stamps of Obama yearly, then it is factually correct. It was NOT a racial slur as he referred to his own daughter and it is okay to criticize Obama. Newt and others have the right to do so. Civil discourse? This coming from Lefties who engage ad nauseum in ad hominem attacks. LMAO!
Aegius 2 weeks ago
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speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@Aegius Reagan voted for FDR all 4 times he was elected President. His family, dems/Lefties all, supported the New Deal. He himself was grateful to FDR for providing work for his father/brother in ND programs. He typified millions of Americans who actually lived thru the GD, and who appreciated FDR's pragmatic/PRICELESS leadership.
Reagan was NOT an uncompromising far right loon (not even as repub president - 1980s), and there's no way you can revise his voting record on that either.
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 So you are finally a Reagan fan...about damn time. Especially after the fiasco of Jimmy the great Carter.
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Reagan was a Democrat until 1964. What does that have to do w/ whether or not FDR's policies caused the Depression to last several years longer and debunk the UCLA study that came to that conclusion? Answer: Nothing. Your speculation proved nothing as well. You still have provided NO EVIDENCE over if and how the UCLA study is flawed or fraudulent. NOTHING. Try again.
& in your next attempt deal w/the study and the Great Depression, NOT Ronald Reagan.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius Let me explain. The only reason why I told you to stick that one UCLA study up your ass, is because I want you to make room for a much broader study of FDR/New Deal, as follows:
An overwhelming majority of those who lived through the Great Depression, revere
FDR as a hero and his ND policies as a life line of hope through hard times. Most historians/scholars rank him within the top 5 of all U.S. presidents for his leadership abilities, etc.
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Oh contrare, Obama sees hiimself as a better president that FDR...just ask him. Obama says he deserves a second term even though he said he didn't earlier. If Obama gets a second term the Dollar and Monopoly money will be equal value and we will be Greece. Your choice. If America has been dumbed down so badly that you and others give Obama a second term, we deserve the calamity that is on its way. Pelosi..."we need to pass this bill to see what's in it."
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@Aegius a UCLA study of REPUB GOD Ronald Reagan would show:
(SPENT) averaged 22.4% GDP during two terms (FY 1981-88), well above the 20.6% GDP average from 1971 to 2009; the public debt rose from 26% GDP in 1980 to 41% GDP by 1988.
(VOTED) for FDR/New Deal policies, four times: 1932, '36, '42 & '48.
if alive today, he'd probably say: fu far right tea party. that's right, FU!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 If you think for a nano second that Reagan would approve of your Dictator in Chief...dream on Truman. How's your Obama Egypt working out today?? Taking Americans hostage and we are still giving them money....only Obama could accomplish that and still have the media praising him.
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata Aegius and I were debating FDR/New Deal. then BOOYAH! I posted the fact: Reagan voted in favor of the same a total FOUR times, etc.
It had nothing to do w/Obama, Carter, Truman or Egypt. So, "there you go again" making a total a## outta yourself. seen here: ( o )
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata if you're asking if I think Reagan would feel comfortable with the current far right uncompromising repub party, or whether he could easily win a repub primary today? - HECK NO!!!
...Reagan was articulate, confident, knowledgeable, and had a more positive view of America. even his political opponents liked him early on because of that.
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata You were wrong on Speedo. He isn't a weasel. He is the KING of weasels. When I challenged him on FDR's failure on the Great Depression, initially he talked about WWII and his legacy(which now leads us to $62+ trillion in unfunded liabilities and 1:3 Americans gets Medicaide and 44.7 million Americans on food stamps.
Aegius 2 weeks ago
@Aegius But for FDR/New Deal, America could have stayed adrift in fear, despair
and hopeless; we may have eventually turned to communism, fascism, or some other extreme form of govt. Since FDR's time, however, most Americans have worked to preserve his legacy (social safety net) in our lives.
Your challenge [Aegius] is to get Mr. Romney to openly run a campaign against Obama to "dismantle FDR's legacy/America's safety net."
Go ahead sucker - MAKE MY F'N DAY!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata as u can see, I can annihilate Aegius at will. that lil shit has no chance.
none.
the next time he comes cryin' to you. ... that's how you know I got him hanging by the throat
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Aegius owns you. Just get over it. Only a real idiot cannot see your "Tryforgettin" mentality. I especially liked Rush's rendition of Eastwood's commercial....you should give it a listen. Most of America has heard it. Again how about Obama's Egypt? How's that working out??? What no response...again? Admit it your just weak and have a big crush on Obama like Chris Matthews. Looking for that old thrill again.....
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata lol, that's what I like about you tWO sTOOGES [Aegius/twoey]. you can take several vicious hammer blows to the head, then pretend like nothing happened.
HILARIOUS!!!
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Like a true liberal. You think you hit me, you just missed as usual but tell everyone what a hero you are. Kinda like Obama telling the world he saved Egypt and killed Osama. AND what about Santorum, my horse, and three wins today!!! You are crapping your panties right now.....Where's the thrill now Truman? You NEVER address Obama's spending of 6 TRILLION on WHAT??????? The total spin on the unemployment numbers. 1.2 million just quit looking..not counted now??
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata "true Liberal"??? - ...READ my channel you idiot. My passion is music. it would be closer to the truth to label me a "true music lover".
tho, yes, my Tombstone will read: "NEWS JUNKIE EXTRAORDINAIRE - RIGHTER OF WRONGS"
So, you could honestly say, that I'm a "true music lover" (at heart) who can lyrically kick your ass any time I want, to put things right. agreed
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Arrogance again is a part of your libeal personality. I too am a music lover and have played most woodwinds, clarinet and soprano sax mostly, in several groups and do so to this day. Another sign of a liberal,,,they think they are always better and above the other people.
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Hey Truman...""Righter of Wrongs." Why won't you comment on Obama's Egypt or the American hostages there under the Obama approved regime that we still give money to? What about the murders in
Arizona because Obama won't secure the borders? Oh but wait he is still suing AZ for trying to do what he won't do.....by design. You won't respond to the issues, but run like the little girl you are. What about Reid and his dirty water comments? What an idiot...
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata Wrong to mention Egypt, the American hostages (despite whatever covert action that might be underway) w/o once mentioning any of Obama's successes in keeping America safe: counter-terrorism policy: killing Bin Laden and other high value extremists to decimate al Qaeda in Afghanistan; rescue of hostages in Somalia; Libya freedom operation from Qaddafi; withdrawal our troops from Iraq; keeping Amer relevant on human rights and better regarded around our (fast changing) world.
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Never forget Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact. Yet Obama the beauty queen comes and takes all the credit...as usual. I at least do credit Obama for pulling trigger and taking the chance on the mission. You think Iraq is going to turn out any different than Egypt?? Really?? I think Obama in large part owns a great deal of what the middle east is now due to his policy. We will see..
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata "Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact." LIAR!!!
Even you should provide Panetta's quote to prove me wrong. And, riddle me this JOKER! - how would anyone know that we actually "got Osama", w/o Obama deciding correctly among other ways of killing him in hostile/sovereign territory, while still controlling and preserving undisputed evidence of his death?
ZERO Seals died/tricky call
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 You know it's facinating when Obama's own defense sec, says without the intel from the Bush admin. they would not have had the intel to get osama. Even when your own guy says so , you deny it. What a doushe!!! I still would like SOMEONE to ask Obama why he made Van Jones a Czar in his cabinet when Jones admits he is a marxist. If only the state run media would do something right once in a great while. Not holding my breath........
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata where's the quote from Panetta, you lil weasel?
quit stalling.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 I expect an apology from you after you read this...facts are your greatest enemy. The source is The Telegrah May 4 2011 interview Toby Harnden. Panetta admits the intel to get Osama came from EIT. Again what about Vam Jones? Tell me why Obama employs an admitted marxist in his cabinet? The Dictator in Chief issues an edict that all business including Catholic Hospitals must provide abortion and contraception. Obamacare..you must buy gov healthcare..fine/jail.
twosulcata 1 week ago
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@twosulcata "I expect an apology from you after you read this".... "Being on the Left means never having to say you're sorry." Have Lefties apologized to Palin, Tea Party, talk radio, etc for blaming them for that lunatic Jared Loughner? No. Have Lefties apologize for their pathetic fuss over Gitmo? No. Have Lefties apologized for the lies of heterosexual AIDS, global warming and other hoaxes? No. Did they even apologize for blaming the assassination of JFK on Right-wingers? No.
Aegius 1 week ago
@twosulcata you also said: "I at least do credit Obama for pulling trigger and taking the chance on the mission."
with your track record of Obama derangement syndrome, and your laundry list of inflammatory references to his presidency: "socialist", "Marxist", "dictator in Chief"; you must know what you can do with your "credit."
lol...it's not pretty, my fair weather friend. as seen here: ( o )
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata I recall the truth of what Bush (who FAILED) said vs. what Obama (who SUCEEDED) said about the mission of killing or capturing Bin Laden. it goes exactly like this
....and remember, it was that a##hole, vice president Dick Cheney who said Obama didn't "understand" the attack of 9/11 and the war on terror.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 Obama killed OBL per Bush era policies: Water-boarding, intelligence networks and drones. So yes, he succeeded via Bush policies which did succeed at stopping 100s of terrorist attacks and killing 1000s of terrorists. Notice that Camp X-Ray is still up? Yes, Obama has been using Bush policies, so I congratulate him for being like Bush.
Aegius 1 week ago
@twosulcata [Just six months after 9/11], 3/13/2002, Bush's gave a press conference saying Osama was not a top priority for his admin. Asked if he thought Osama was important, Bush scolded those who cared about Osama for not “understanding the scope of the mission.”
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata "Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not. We haven't heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me ppl don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He's just a person who's been marginalized. ...I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you." - Bush 3/13/02
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata On 10/7/2008 debate with John McCain, Obama announced:
"And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out.
We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”
BOOYAH!!! - this means, twoey, that you can stick your "credit" up your hiney hole where you belong all along. don't bother coming out
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 All the while Obama is in front of the Muslum Bro. in Egypt...Al Qaida and supports them???? What gives? You say Obama wants to crush Al Qaida and yet he supprts what's going on in the Middle East? Nothing but optics. Obama won't even try to defend our southern border...while he sues AZ for trying to do it themselves. You are both idiots.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata Good News! tWO sTOOGES are back.
yea, I fished [Aegius] out from the sewer with some ole (torture) bait, before heading out to Valentines dinner last nite.
the LIAR went for it, so you're no longer alone
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata Where's the Leon Panetta quote, "Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin"???????
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S TAKING YOU SO LONG. I smell a rat. I know a lie.
...cough it up you lil sh##
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata Who is this "Vam Jones" person? and why do you keep "name dropping" his name to me. It can't get you into the W.H., even if I did know why he's supposed to be important to me somehow.
What's this stuff about an edict to Catholic Hosps on abortion and contraception.
I demand that you post the Obama quote that supports your bogus lie on that as well. Otherwise, stuff it! ... here's how: ( o )
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 BTW, on torture, REAL TORTURE. R-rating, brace yourself as you have been warned:
Cat O'9 Tails, drill going up your colon, deliberate dehydration. whipping, Iron Maiden(case w/spikes inside. Victim put inside it.), Brazen bull(hollow brass bull. Victim put inside as it is heated up by fire), skull splitter, breast ripper, sawing of the victim.
Do you want to compare any of that to water-boarding? If so, you're a moron.
Aegius 1 week ago
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speedoflite1 1 week ago
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@Aegius To clarify, twoey said: "Never forget Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin. Even Panetta admits this fact."
I asked him to prove Panetta said just that, ["Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin"].
And now the well known weasel needs to cough it up, or admit defeat.
not even your level of FRAUD can save him
speedoflite1 1 week ago
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@Aegius true. you joined the (Panetta) issue LATE. you were anxious to cover up for [twoey] and post wrong answers.
don't worry - you'll get your shot. just please wait your turn scummy.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
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@Aegius your claim that "Waterboarding at best is scary, but there is no physical harm or trauma. Waterboarding is NOT illegal in USA, so hence you were really lying here. & Immoral? In most instances yes, but apparently it may work in certain instances." WRONG
This is so absolutely full of SHIT! - it ain't funny. It's contradicted by common sense and so many other sources - it ain't funny. ie., Leon Panetta's ltr of 5/911, John McCain's Senate Floor Speech 5/12/11, etc.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@Aegius Waterboarding (simulated drowning/oxygen deprivation) is a form of TORTURE dating back to at least the Spanish Inquisition; widely recognized in USA and around the world as illegal, cruel, immoral, inhumane, ineffective, provides false and misleading information, etc.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 It's Van Jones and you know it and you can't deny that Obama appointed him in his cabinet and knew he is was and still is an admitted and proud marxist. Period. Really it's the only reason I post with an idiot like you so some may see the sheer lunacy and liar you are. Even with the facts as usual you still deny who Obama is. That's fine, it only shows your obvious denial of truth. The 2010 elections will be repeated in about 260 days. You are the real loser.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata Make up your mind, is it "Vam Jones" or "Van Jones"? (after struggling with that riddle even in your own pint-sized political partisan skull) why proceed to dictate what "I know" and what "I can't deny"??? you tell me, Mr. Dicktator-head!!!
The 2010 midterm elections can't be repeated in 2012; no more than any other election in America. no do-overs, and besides "what's done is done." The good news is, you've LOST already by picking Bachmann. LOSER
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 You are simply a coward. It's that simple. You won't reply about Van Jones because you know he is a marxist and Obama appointed him. The 2010 elections were a 70 year historic election, not just a normal midterm you idiot. 2012 will be the same because America has said hell no to you and Obama's agenda. Remember the last Obama "budget?" Voted down 97 to zero. Much like the worthless one he gave today. Reid won't even introduce it so McConnell will have to.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata Why keep changing the subject by forcing "Van Jones" out your butt?
as seen here: ( o ). it stinks, if you ask me.
he's NOT of my generation...and I doubt he's a major power player in the Obama Admin or well known coast to coast; or else I'd have more to say [one way or the other]. I cross-checked his name for anything prescient locally, and he came up dry there too.
what gives???
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata Why inject Van Jones, 2010 elections & whatnot into our debate about Leon Panetta, w/o admitting you lied about him saying: "Obama would have never got Osama if it had not been for the EIT under the Bush Admin."
fact: you literally put your own wishful thinking lies in Panetta's mouth, which he NEVER said!
you lying cheating weaselly dirty dog. ENOUGH!
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 Panetta said it and you know it...and that's the end of the debate. You have the sources to verify. It's not my fault you lack the intelligence to understand what he said. Try again. But just to deny is another stupid liberal socialist default. My horse Santorum is doing quite well...thank you!!!! Your biggest nightmare.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata Panetta NEVER said what you said he said. you lied and then tried to cover it up.
not just me, but both Leon Panetta (dem) and later John McCain {repub - from the senate floor} shitted all over YOU and your rationale for EIT/torture. you were doubly screwed by them (both parties). ...that's the funny part
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 Alas I have figured out who you really are!!! You are Maxine Walters!! You know the liberal "socialist" who called R "demons" among many other things. I guess you didn't get Obama's memo about "civil" discussion. I thought you liberals tried to reach across the isle, yet you say you never want to see their faces again. What gives?? Have you heard of Media Matters and what they have done? Shame shame....Coward day four Van Jones.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata So, no, don't go, "not not" explaining why you're dropping your all-Bachmann threats against America. Is this permanent, or just a temporary fling with another man for your own personal political gain?
and don't make that move; seen here: ( o ), "not not" without admitting the many flaws and failings that made her such an unacceptable presidential candidate from the start.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata I'm bemused by your comparison between Bachmann and Howard Dean. [Based on one ill-advised shriek at a campaign rally], Dean was considered weird/unstable and was promptly shunned out of contention by some of his fervent supporters (Deaniacs) at the time. While Bachmann personified divisiveness and "instability"- a virtual unapologetic gaffe machine fruitcake bomb-thrower, all during her presidential bid, with your foolish support throughout.
low bar = Bachmann. riddance
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1
As proud Liberal Democrats, i think Everyone who disagrees with us is a Racist, bigot, homophobe and sexist
do you agree ?
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 6 days ago
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT Is Maxine Waters your Momma?
twosulcata 5 days ago
@twosulcata "Romney did nothing that Kerry, and Biden do not do and is legal."
but we're not talking about Kerry, Biden are we? (rejecting 10:1 spending cut to tax hike ratio & coddling the already rich, while damning safety net programs) plus, barely "legal" is never the standard in the presidential sweepstakes - now is it?!!
We're talking about Romney saying "um humanah humanah" in 2012, when asked to release a 12-year hx of returns as his dad did. get it straight u idiot.
speedoflite1 4 days ago
@speedoflite1 That's right, we're NOT talking about Biden and kerry BECAUSE when they ran it never entererd to mind of the state rum media to ask the same questions that are asked of conservatives!! When Biden did release his return we did find he gave a whopping $369 to charity!! Whew! Compared to Romney's 7.5 MILLION. "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Thacher.
twosulcata 3 days ago
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speedoflite1 3 days ago
@twosulcata
As a dedicated Liberal Democrat i am right up in your fucking face SCREAMING Racism and callin u a hate filled Racist bigot !
Anyone who speaks out against My sweet precious Obama is a Racist , its really that simple. You are a Racist, America hear my Liberal Cries of Racism
Vote Obama 2012, Democrats have all the solutions, the tea party has None
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 6 days ago
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT Well thankfully you are the SEVERE minority in America. You are a socialist or marxist based on your opinions and your inablility to use civil language that isn't based in vulgarity. Your default is anyone that doesn't think like you is a bigot and a racist. Sorry that has no traction anymore with anyone who still has half a brain...you don't. Maybe you can tell me why Obama appointed Van Jones, an admitted marxist to his cabinet? Speedo can't.
twosulcata 5 days ago
@twosulcata you picked Bachmann before flip flopping to Santorum. guess why? cos he's looking suddenly better going into Mich.
you are a proven wretched rotten Obama-hating liar at the core (truth and country be damned), so you are generally where you belong. makes no diff.
when you lose or when things don't pan out. prediction: you will blame "the media"
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 OK. You seem not not understand that Bachman is not in the race anymore. Kind of like Dean quit as well as Clinton. Do you understand now??? I tried to make it simple for you. I wonder if you liked Clinton over Obama in '08 if you said to yourself,"well crap Clinton lost I can't support anybody?" You might well have but I have not. I like Santorum a lot and if he is the R man...Awesome!!! Coward day three..Van Jones Obama's cabinet marxist??
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata "You seem not not understand that Bachman is not in the race anymore."
Au contraire, mon frère illiterate - because Bachmann is so clearly out, and Michigan so clearly in play, how can I "not not" let you hop onto the Santorum bandwagon without delay. seen here: ( 0 ) have fun!
but wait....
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1
Both Bachmann and Santorum are Sexist, Homophobes, bigots and Racists ! to be honest i actually think ALL independents and Republicans are that way , as Liberal Democrats i believe we are superior and they are all inferior to us, Anyone who isnt a Liberal Democrat is anti American and a traitor to our country
do you agree ?
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 6 days ago
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT hi Anatomical
you may respectfully introduce yourself and express a real opinion. I would agree on that being a logical first step approach [if you want my attn]
speedoflite1 6 days ago
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speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata GAME OVER! you lose. I learned tWO sTOOGES are better than one; you can't beat me alone; wasted my time.
find Aegius or another severely hateful uncompromising far right wingnut extremist to take your side. oNE sTOOGE won't do
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 Try again on the UCLA study and don't give me what historians stated or what popular sentiment was, b/c it states NOTHING over the success or failures of his policies. FDR's own Secretary of Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. stated in 1937 that FDR's policies were failures. Most Western nations has LOWER unemployment rates than USA in the latter 1930's. Those are FACTS about the economy which you did NOT provide at all on. It's really pathetic.
Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius Many intel experts, ordinary Americans, others around the world; question the effectiveness of Water-boarding (torture) vs. standard interrogation techniques. Most everyone admits that waterboading is torture and thus ILLEGAL, wrong, immoral, counterproductive. Bush Admin did everything possible to change the definition of the word to confuse the debate and escape liability. just ask John McCain
quit lying
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 I didn't lie at all. The info to get OBL came from waterboarding an inmate at Gitmo which is hardly torture. Try Cat O'9 Tails or drills up the colon. Waterboarding at best is scary, but there is no physical harm or trauma. Waterboarding is NOT illegal in USA, so hence you were really lying here. & Immoral? In most instances yes, but apparently it may work in certain instances.
Again you provided nothing; same as Great Depression. GO figure. You're pathetic.
Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius Like any smart, pragmatic, rational human being, President Obama learned from the many mistakes of his predecessor Bush, and tried to build upon (smarten up) the things Bush did right, w/the hand he was dealt.
Military and Intel matters are complicated, and each have entrenched bureaucratic power bases in Wash D.C., incl. but not limited to Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DEA, Interpol, etc. Obama is doing as well as one might expect in making the positive changes we'd all like to see.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 Again, you didn't refer to any of Bush's mistakes and now you concede that Bush did some things right, which Obama built upon. No kidding. That's how Obama got OBL: Bush era policies. Deal w/it and stop obfuscating.
Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius pssst, I already have Panetta's ltr to McCain in my back pocket, pending your fellow sTOOGE [twoey] making a complete ass out of himself.
seen here: ( o )
the trap is set.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
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Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius read Wash Post article: "The national debt would balloon under tax policies championed by three of the four major Republican candidates for president, according to an independent analysis of tax and spending proposals so far offered by the campaigns. The lone exception is Texas Rep. Ron Paul," ....
source: U.S. Budget Watch report dated 2/23/12, a bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
What gives???
speedoflite1 6 hours ago
@speedoflite1 The nat'l debt has ballooned big time under Obama more than any peace-time president since FDR. THat's a fact, not estimates. We can't afford his out-of-control spending anymore. What gives?
According to Reuters(Not Fox News) Obama's budget would increase nat'l debt by $6 trillion over the next 10 years.
& your response: You're a racist, b/c you don't like Obama b/c he is Black.
Aegius 2 hours ago
@Aegius hi Aegius lol... ic my bait worked!!!!
did you even read the article, Mr. Ignorant FRAUD? ...I suggest you do so before shooting your mouth off, getting embarrassed.
speedoflite1 2 hours ago
@Aegius bipartisan report said: Santorum and Gingrich would do the most harm to the nation, offering tax/spending policies likely to require trillions of dollars in fresh borrowing.
Both men propose sharp tax cuts but haven't identified spending cuts sufficient to make up for the lost cash. "By 2021, the debt would rise approx $4.5 trillion under Santorum and approx $7 trillion under Gingrich, pushing the portion of the debt held by outside investors to well over 100% of the economy."
speedoflite1 1 hour ago
@Aegius I know you only like the studies you agree with, but I thought this "bipartisan" study would help all you "999" castaways weed thru the bullshit of the remaining repub candidates.
speedoflite1 1 hour ago
@Aegius Jeb Bush: "I used to be a conservative and I watch these debates and I'm wondering, I don't think I've changed, but it's a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective and that's kind of where we are."
glad he finally spoke out, but shudda named names and been far more specific. its hardly enough for the die hard koolaid sTOOGES such as yourself [Aegius].
speedoflite1 1 hour ago
@speedoflite1
“We had multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation… clearly some of it came from detainees [and] they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of those detainees,” he[Leon Panetta] told NBC anchor Brian Williams. "Torturous evasions," By Neil Munro from the Daily Caller.
I had my own trap before you did.
Aegius 1 week ago
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speedoflite1 1 week ago
@Aegius Whoops! I called the wrong sTOOGE a "LIAR" this time. ...can't let that happen
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@Aegius McCain criticized former Atty Gen Michael Mukasey for saying that waterboarding of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed led investigators to the courier who ferried information to and from bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan.
Mukasey has said Mohammed “broke like a dam” during the 183 waterboardings performed on him.
“That is false,” McCain said, citing a report from CIA director Leon Panetta who said the courier’s identity was obtained elsewhere.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 You believe anything McCain says??? Crap, even I didn't do that . Coward...day three about Van Jones. You won't admit the obvious that the state run media won't even address but I will. Again Obama apppointed an admitted marxist to his cabinet. Your denial does not make it so. Your arch enemy...THE TRUTH. Why won't Reid introduce Obama's great new bugdet ? Why can't we get a vote on his wonderful and azaming budget? All cowards and America sees it.
twosulcata 1 week ago
@twosulcata Maxine Waters? Van Jones? Media Maters? ... I'm hearing any and everything but your apology for lying about Panetta.
Do some personal accounting first ~ you lil weasel, then you can track down the other stuff, wherever it leads you. seen here: ( o ) ...already told you I don't know Van Jones. I doubt he's a key power player (military, budget, foreign policy) in the W.H./current adm or I'd know. so why do you keep beatin' some point to death with me?
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1
Vote Obama 2012
Liberal New world order, Democrats have all the facts and speak the truth
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 6 days ago
@speedoflite1 You won't address Van Jones because you know who he is...that simple. You don't know Van Jones????Another lie...that simple. Where there are rules and there are liberals...there are no rules. That's about to change this Nov. Just wait until the next Pres tells you libs "go sit in the back of the bus...you can come along for the ride" like Obama did to the R. You got what you wanted...watch what happens now. Panetta told the truth..that's your problem.....
twosulcata 5 days ago
@twosulcata even tho I've admitted REPEATEDLY that I don't know "Van Jones or Vam Jones"... (you say) that I should address him because (you say) I know who he is...
twoey, u are so unfreakinunbelievable - it ain't funny. I cannot address what I know nothing about. And I'm even less interested now than ever. ...that simple.
better economic numbers are good for America and Obama. ...bad for you & the Repubs
speedoflite1 5 days ago
@speedoflite1 Okay while you are really lying it's easy to see about Van Jones. The FACTS: Obama appointed Van Jones to his Cabinet and Van Jones is an admitted marxist. Now what about these facts are hard to understand? Obama hears the counsel of admitted marxists. Fact. Unless you can believe that Obama can attend a church for 20 years and not understand what the "pastor" is saying? l only post this to expose your lying agenda and well as Obama's. Americans see it. 2012
twosulcata 5 days ago
@speedoflite1Let's see!! Better economic numbers??? What is the REAL unemployment number??? IF you add the number that are STILL looking AND the number that have QUIT looking AND the number that have run out of 99 WEEKS OF OBAMA GOV subsidy the REAL number is about 15%. So if you are talking about the state run Obama propaganda numbers, yes it is going down but totally wrong. Why are more houses being foreclosed on, more on food stamps if the economy is so much better??
twosulcata 5 days ago
@twosulcata Affirmative. you can ask and answer your own Van Jones questions; mumble stupid nothings about Van Jones to yourself, or stick your head up your favorite Van Jones private part. seen here: ( o )
see if I care
speedoflite1 5 days ago
@twosulcata repub candidates are very much encouraged to (be consistent) and campaign on whatever REAL numbers that were used to measure any president. Mr. Romney can keep bragging how terribly broke America is, while shipping his mega millions overseas, and release (12) years of tax returns like his dad did while running to be our president.
the truth shall set us free. America is coming back! GM is #1 AGAIN!!!
speedoflite1 5 days ago
@speedoflite1 GM record profits..still owes Americans bilions... discontinue pensions to 9,000 white collar workers. Fair?? I will never own a GM union stolen Obama led gov business. America is broke. We borrow .42 of every dollar. Romney did nothing that Kerry, and Biden do not do and is legal idiot. Wall Street is nothing more than gov chosen winners and losers paid for by 5 TRILLION of gov borrowed debt. America gets it...you don't, but you will this NOV!!!!
twosulcata 4 days ago
@twosulcata I posted "REAL" stock market high numbers, but you naturally (took the bait) by responding with a losing lying message that will serve Romney quite poorly out on the campaign trail; especially Mich. thanks sucker
I wonder what your response wudda been had the market posted record lows at this time. fact: conservative radio (Hannity, et al.) attacked and blamed Obama directly when the market was down, but now they're totally mum.
speedoflite1 4 days ago
@twosulcata "What is the REAL unemployment number??? ... the REAL number is about 15%."
had Bush/Obama let our auto industry go bust, I'm sure you'd cheer "REAL" unemployment numbers well above the "15%" out of spite for Obama. note: it wasn't just U.S. auto industry [jobs] at stake, but all the [jobs] associated with parts-suppliers, dealers & distributors where in peril; that gained bipartisan support among other compelling factors during global recession. u idiot
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 We should celebrate today in honor your your beloved socialist FDR!! This is the anniversary when he signed the executive order to intern all Japanese Americans....not to mention German and Italian. And isn't S.S. doing well today...that beloved socialist program that has my account with all the money I have contributed. Biggest ponzi scheme in American history. Santorum is your biggest nightmare and doing well. 20% agree with you....that's it. 2012.
twosulcata 3 days ago
@twosulcata "when they ran it never entererd to mind of the state rum media to ask the same questions that are asked of conservatives!!" ...blah, blah, blah
wtf? your spelling, sentence structure, and lack of a coherent thought (below) is piss poor. ...more than ever before, i'd say.
What gives???
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 Well the grammar police are back. I'd say that's another bullseye when that's all you complain about. It's a good thing I could care less about Trump and what he thinks about Santorum because it doesn't matter. And is it not interesting that as usual, democrats give as little as possible and still think they are the big givers? Romney 7.5 Million and Biden $369.00!!! You never get it but America does. "Kicking my ass"....just meaningless words....as usual.
twosulcata 3 days ago
@twosulcata WRONG. the police have nothing to do with you making silly mistakes. either strive to do better or stay stupid forever.
life's bitter grammar pill for you, pal. bon appétit.
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 You continually waste your posts with stupid isssues. Don't think for a second I value your childish attempts to degrade other people. It just shows your heart and mindset. It also shows you have nothing to say but slurs, lies and rhetoric. I only post with you to show anyone who comes along the real difference betrween right and wrong. You are in the >20% group btw. What?? No snappy comback about FDR'S internment holiday yesterday? Your socialist hero....
twosulcata 2 days ago
@twosulcata "You continually waste your posts with stupid isssues."
Please tell me you didn't write that. (you've got some nerve being critical of others while ignoring your many fundamental flaws).
speedoflite1 1 day ago
@speedoflite1 I remember you were awfully excited and proud that Obama has raised Wall Street to great numbers. You know when a republican did that the media called us fat cats and in bed with the bankers. Funny how that narrative is only used against EVIL REPUBLICANS but never against Obama. So really Obama is now the OWS nightmare since he has become the great friend of Wall Street and Rich Bankers. BP biggest reciever of money was ....OBAMA. Who knew??? State Run Media.
twosulcata 1 day ago
@twosulcata do you mean to bash Fox News?
are you totally ignorant to the fact that George Romney in 1968 was the 1st presidential candidate to VOLUNTARILY release his tax returns; in fact 12 years worth as a show of good faith and to answer questions about his wealth.
its been a fairly standard question of candidates ever since, regardless party affiliation.
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@twosulcata so you differ with Donald Trump(?) about Santorum:
"I see some of his views which are so out there that he's never going to win. He cannot win the general election. cannot win it....
There's no gift, no Christmas gift that could be given better than Rick Santorum to Democrats. They are just salivating at that."
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 the real gift and you know it is Romney.............your state run medias assingnment is to lie and destroy the R and of couse praise Obama at every turn. "useful idiot" you are. Come on, no celebration for FDR and jailing Japanese American citizens?????????
twosulcata 3 days ago
@twosulcata oops! I take that back. you haven't asked me about Van Jones again yet, so it'd be premature to unload my Van Jones jokes until you do.
let's just say, I think you're gonna be sorry you ever mentioned his name to me.
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 Van Jones is just one of many that are in the bowels that the state run media has never reported on. Obama thinks that if Jesus were alive he would "raise the taxes on the rich." You idiots still try to make this election about contraception,,,keep going. You are making sooooo many enemies of so many Americans. Can't wait for NOV. Obama still has about 250 days to destroy America.
twosulcata 2 days ago
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speedoflite1 2 days ago
@twosulcata I beg to differ. ...the last time anyone saw Van Jones, he was standing right next to you. seen here: ( o ) ( 0 )
of course, that's YOU; the bigger ass on the right
speedoflite1 1 day ago
@speedoflite1
i believe that anyone who disagrees with Van Jones is a Racist !
do you agree ?
OurDemocratRaceCard 1 day ago
@speedoflite1 That's for making my point. Another ten people now are seeing who Van Jones is and that Obama appointed him to his cabinet as an admitted marxist. Guess that kinda makes Obama's thinking on the same level...hummmm. You still haven't celebrated with me about your hero FDR and his internment anniversary on Feb 20 including but not limited to jailing Japanese Americans.
twosulcata 1 day ago
@speedoflite1 Your reply is that of a seventh grade girl....Maxine. Hey another thing. Gas prices are at historical highs for this time of year. Another Obama first. Yet the state run media says NOTHING!!!!! I remmeber when gas prices went high during Bush and do you remember when every day the media murdered him for it with every kind of reason from he wanted them to be high as well as He and Chaney were making millions off the increases. Of couse all lies. MEDIA LIES. YOU
twosulcata 1 day ago
@twosulcata I've wiped the floor so many X's with you - it ain't funny. what a sTOOGE!!!
"remmeber", dufus, you have spelling homework to do before addressing the stupid "isssues" on your list. ...your words, not mine.
speedoflite1 1 day ago
@speedoflite1 You can barely wipe your own butt much less anything else. You are so funny to imply that you win because you correct a typo!!! What a joke!! Maxine, you a scared little pimply girl...and a coward. Van Jones is still a marxist as well as Obama...he hired him. Obama still borrows/prints/steals .42 of every dollar!!! And you think just raising taxes will make it all go away??? You are so beat this NOV that you will really need professional help. Good luck
twosulcata 19 hours ago
@twosulcata Van Jones wiped his butt with you, and I see how you turned on him. no thanks asswipe.
speedoflite1 15 hours ago
@twosulcata
i have news for you, Jesus was a Racist bigot ! He was anti black.
Obama is More powerful than Jesus ever was, Obama is our Christ , we love and adore him and we will never betray him, he is Amazing !!!!
anyone who speaks out against our sweet Precious Obama is a Racist
OurDemocratRaceCard 1 day ago
@OurDemocratRaceCard PLEASE keep posting because it shows your utter disdain for America and when you do it shifts independent votes for the GOP. Your ignorance and hatred is sad. Haven't even noticed Speedo accepting your sick views,,,but he may be a closet supporter.
twosulcata 1 day ago
@speedoflite1
Van Jones for President 2016
Black Power, Kill whitey !!!! Death to all White People
OurDemocratRaceCard 1 day ago
@OurDemocratRaceCard keep talking, and there will be ample evidence for anyone to believe that you're a nutjob. ans is: don't just ask me. I think you already know where the loony bin is
speedoflite1 1 day ago
@twosulcata made short work of kicking your ass again and again.
Remember, I also sought help for you too [Aegius S.O.S.], and yet your gibberish bullsh## is the thanks I get. just pathetic
speedoflite1 3 days ago
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speedoflite1 3 days ago
@twosulcata "REAL" Wallstreet numbers, representing 4-year highs as of Fri close, 2/17:
DOW 12949.87
NASDAQ 2951.78
S & P 1361.23
"socialist Obama" label doesn't fit at all. these numbers are undeniably good, and historically pretty darn impressive for ANY president to have on his watch.
speedoflite1 5 days ago
@twosulcata "GM record profits..still owes Americans bilions... discontinue pensions to 9,000 white collar workers. Fair??"
ask Romney. he has a "yes"/"no" nonprincipled stance on bailouts:
Bank bailout - "Yes"
GM bailout - "No"
Olympic Winter Games bailout - "Yes"
GM is #1 (profitable) AGAIN! Romney looks even more awkweird than usual while campaigning in Mich. Repubs and Dems widely supported the auto bailout there, and he can't hide his record. ...Fairly funny (imo)
speedoflite1 3 days ago
@speedoflite1 cont... Now who were among the detainees? Answer: Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was water-boarded, to get info from. Now which admin got KSM? Answer: Bush's. As stated, I congratulate Obama for having killed that Arab version of Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, by using Bush era techniques including water-boarding, Gitmo and intelligence established under Bush.
Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius John McCain's Senate Floor Speech, 5/12/11
"I believe some of these practices – especially waterboarding, which is a mock execution, and thus to me, indisputably torture – are and should be prohibited in a nation that is exceptional in its defense and advocacy of human rights.
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@Aegius McCain cont'd
"I believe they are a violation of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions, all of which forbid cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of all captured combatants, whether they wear the uniform of a country or are essentially stateless."
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@speedoflite1 The truth is that you're really pathetic. You called me a fraud for stating that FDR's policies caused the GD to last 7+ years longer. I provided evidence & then you went on about WWII & FDR's legacy, which initially I made NO COMMENT on & weren't relevant to my claims. You didn't address ANY of my facts or data and then continued to call me a fraud based upon non-sequitors or irrelevancies. You are 1 of the most pathetic debaters that I have ever met. You're a joke.
Aegius 1 week ago
@Aegius lol, don't have any more time to waste Aegius. you can practice waterboarding yourself if you want, which is acceptable to me under the circumstances
here's how: ( o )
gotta go walk the dogs, and then its fancy dinner and a movie tonite out on the town. be back tommr. bye
speedoflite1 1 week ago
@twosulcata 1) what portion of 6 trillion equals ext of Bush tax cuts demanded by opposition under threat of govt shut down/debt default??? 2) what is the commonly accepted/published unemployment number-criteria (rep or dem in W.H.); U3 or U6???
what portion of 1.2 mil is the consequence of Bush legacy/continual repub obstructionism in not passing Obama job bill, etc.???
humor me
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Oh and one more thing. You need not comment about Reagan. Your senseless drivel and spin about who you think he is, is really commentary on how really brain dead you are. Your assertion Reagan would be more akin to side with OWS and not the Tea Party is simply absurd. Air Traffic Controllers?????????? You really need to see the America for what it is and not what your Dictator in Chief and you want it to be.
twosulcata 2 weeks ago
@twosulcata as News Junkie Extraordinaire - Righter of Wrongs lemme start by saying:
Wrong to address me as "Hey Truman" who died in 1972. Right to begin with "Hey, speed" in seeking my opinion/your enlightenment on current events (Egypt, American hostages, AZ border security...)
the simple reasonable option was available to you all along. obviously idiot
speedoflite1 2 weeks ago
@speedoflite1 Do not flatter yourself. I call you "Truman" because you live in a very fragile bubble. If you recall based on the Jim Carey movie "Truman." I need you "elightenment" as much as I need Chris Matthews "thrill up his leg" or a sack race with Moochelle and Jimmy Fallon.
twosulcata 2 weeks ago