Group Think: Censorship and the Truth Movement

[almostmidnightdesign]

Remember what happened at Jonestown, an example of Group Think.

You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free - Jesus Christ of Nazareth

[civilianlife]

I'm dealing with many issues on youtube amongst a couple of community I'm part of. I'm going to sub to your channel, plz do the same for mine if you agree with what I've said.

[DrDissent]

Hilarious, but typical on YT

The word "shill" is way over (and wrongly) used. Its like the catch all insult as of late. I wish the people using it would look it up and USE IT PROPERLY!! So annoying!

[911tourettes]

Fucking sad!! I've had the One Star Brigade through here several times. : ( What am I going to do?

[smokeandmirrors67]

Sorry, that is the

TheAlexJonesChannel

that has been suspended.

[smokeandmirrors67]

I forgot to mention, the AlexJonesChannel on YouTube has been suspended. Does that sound familiar to you Elaine?

[smokeandmirrors67]

Why do I say this, some may wonder. My wife is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse. I am now her carer since she suffers with DID. I know of information that is very damaging to the elites of this world but when I have mentioned a few, I have been dismissed or seen as a crazy.

v=r-4pNdFoCiM

I a lot more calmer now. What the elites have successfully done is mixed up truth with lies. It has come time to really begin to vlog.

[smokeandmirrors67]

Interesting list. So what is dissenting information? One is that maybe Alex Jones is not a shill. Another is that what David Icke and Michael Tsarson speak about is really true.

I do not want to see anymore Reptilian Shape Shifters parodies since that further makes what David Icke says, seem ridiculous. This whole things surrounds someone who has DID.

cont.....

[sammieluvsdoomy]

This is an EXCELLENT vlog Elaine. The whole thing is disgusting. I've obviously missed some of this particular drama, but I see it ALL the time around the "movement" circles. It's all very juvenile, cliques w/in cliques. I often just observe and comment only on a few channels, just to avoid any unnecessary dramas.

Can we not build a foundation on what we can all agree upon, and just agree to disagree on the rest? If not, what's the flippin' point of any so called "movement"? Fucking egos....

[minesapint123]

I noticed that list myself a few days ago and thought the very same thing.

[911tourettes]

You might be interested in knowing that the list has been removed in the last 24 hours.

[Ipluckithard]

I bet I'm on that list..cause I'm a little guy that don't join no shit .. I have been known to run with a pack of lone wolfs hobos from time to time....hey where is it? I wish you would let us know.

[licoricerain]

-grabs a hammer and smashes da damn clock ticking in da background- O.O

[TheSpartacat]

i love the way YT thinks Fred is spam.

respect my authortay!!! :-)

[911BattleScars01]

The funny thing, you only see bad ratings, and not a word out of whoever the haters are..

[TheSpartacat]

I'm just soooooo disappointed.

This is an excellent vlog about Group Think Elaine.

Its something EVERYONE must be mindful of.

I am sick of the high horses i see in the 'movement'.

My BOWELS have had more impressive movements!!!

Everyone is SO afraid of deviating from what the herd is saying that a spark of honest, human thought gets 3 starred by ... hypocrits.

Blind leading the blind.

I have NO personal beef with ANYONE, but i wish to fuck some ppl would wake up and smell the fecking coffee

[DeadEyeMorgan]

Wow... you weren't kidding... : )

[TheSpartacat]

I need a hug :-(

[DeadEyeMorgan]

*hug*

: )

[TheSpartacat]

"don't let go!!!"

***digs claws in and starts purring***

"Got any whiskey?"

: )

[DeadEyeMorgan]

Sure do... : )

[DeadEyeMorgan]

I can't with Elaine watching... this is her page for Christ's sake...

Meet me on the Fred Channel... wear something spectacular : )

[911tourettes]

Oooooh I like to watch! ;) rofl!!

*sneaks behind to the Fred channel*

[DeadEyeMorgan]

watch?v=m9MA0eW8yyw

Time to expose the TRUTH...

[911tourettes]

ROFL!! :-D What a fucking Gimp!!! lol!!

[DeadEyeMorgan]

You better be talking about Fred... because the TRUTH is RISING.

[TheSpartacat]

Why is this spam?

What did i miss?

Sorry... just coming to after a petit mort!

Wow.... look at that little twerp. I know its off topic, but i wish i had a little brother like him... then i'd have something to punch... it would help me avoid comment-rants! ; )

[911tourettes]

rofl!! He wouldn't have lasted two minutes in our house!!! :-D

[911BattleScars01]

comment rants are fun. This will get the honor of being the most commented on video in ireland of all time forever.

[911tourettes]

rofl!! And we're jst talking about Fred!! lol!!

[911tourettes]

He deserves a good fucking hiding...anyone willing to join the back of the queue?!! rofl!! :)

[TheSpartacat]

well, i think he does a wonderfully subtle job in this video- holding a mirror up to society and our deep seated fear of being without our meds.

In these dark days, we all feel a need for a comforting vaccine to protect the fabric of our reality... but Freds wise vlog here, shows us the futility of this. That the drugs really don't work... that they will just make you worse, and that big pharma have us all so dependent upon our own fear.

thats what implied, i can tell...

ROFLMFAO

[DeadEyeMorgan]

He gets a six-figure salary...

watch?v=h0ne1Ug2I3M

His equal in the socialsphere...

[TheSpartacat]

ooooh, a 'pre-law' student!!!

nice teeth :-)

[DeadEyeMorgan]

It's the 'hip & happening/girl on the move* music in the background that really grinds my gears... this is actually one of her more lucid vlogs... It actually has some kind of contextual relevance... Her time-capsule one is worth watching if you feel like watching something cathartic that excuses every wrong-doing or embarrassing thing you've ever done... It's that OTT.

[mconn2112]

My dear those must be impressive bowels! LOL!

I myself become disheartened and irriated with "Don't say this because you might come under fire from these people." "Ooooh, don't say that because then (fill in any name) will get offended." Fuck that. You say what you have to say and you do it with integrity and feeling and grit & all will be right with the world. If not, fuck it anyway, speak your mind and your heart! ;-)

[licoricerain]

that's what i say. fuck them. if every person that is afraid of offending so and so stops voicing their opinion then where the bloody hell does that fucking leave the rest of us? if we stop voicing our opinion because we don't wanna offend someone the entire world will end up in silence. if they can't say fuck our differences we're on the same side they ain't worth it. and if i hurt their little feelings in the process too damn bad 4 them =D

[TheSpartacat]

Now I'm gonna make references to a vlog that was made either before or after xmas, which has since been removed. Most of you won't know what I am talking about but the person who made that vlog will read this comment & know EXACTLY what i mean.

The vlog was about a person getting called shill by a 'powerful' truther & had a load of fools then giving him grief.

YOU stood up for him, AND you pointed out the bandwagon mentality in the truth 'movement'.

WHY is this different? I wud LOVE to hear

[TheSpartacat]

that comment is aimed at the person who made the vlog i'm talking about... and he knows who he is

[TheSpartacat]

There should be another symptom:

9: "Baaaaaaaaaaa"

This is worse than vote botting because it is powered by HATE not by a software program and commerce the way the votebotting seems to be.

Hate is powered by FEAR.

FEAR is your greatest ENEMY!

[TheSpartacat]

Right, I'm only 50 seconds in, and I'm already pissed off.

I googled the "warning",,,, ahhh and i see its available in the cached version only now!

Not happy.

Am i living in a dream world, all on my little lonesomeness or was there not one of that 'circle of friends', who, only a few mths ago was on that same shills and trolls list?????!!!!!

Did i DREAM that?

I don't fucking like drama... i like censorship even less

:-(

should i watch the rest of this? or will i get more grumpy?

[911tourettes]

omfg! Cowardly bastard took the list down. Speaks fucking volumes....

[911BattleScars01]

lolololol

[911tourettes]

ho hum!!! lol!! Would that be worth a Spartan victory dance, my love?! :-)

[TheSpartacat]

did good sense actually prevail here? surely not!!

I might get my firestick out.

[911tourettes]

woot!!! :-D

[BrodyLuv2]

Why the F**? has this vid only got 3 Stars???

This was a great post and valid to the tee.

I know exactly this problem in,what was,a TRUTH Movement....Now some "Truth" Channels goal appears to be to " Faction the Factions" with all this attempted lableing of YTers' as "Shills" "Trolls" and all the boxed "Group Think" mentalitys some "Truth" channels seem to engender in some folks.

Ive' been called a shill and a troll a few times for just diagreeing slightly on,say,a Alex J post or Nufffs posts.

[BrodyLuv2]

But,really,I think we all may have been guilty of falling into the trap of Group Think in the past...I know I have,...I think really its mostly with People who are new to Rabbit Holeing.

But I do have some Personal Beef against Obamawhynotbluray...I just try and Ignore His Bull shit now.

Peace.

[BrodyLuv2]

Oh yeah...Five *'s. : {)

[911tourettes]

I'm just going to give you a short reply. The reason the video has only 3 stars is because these guys like to 'one star bomb' any videos that disagree with them or are percieved as 'calling them out.'

[DebTruth]

group think led by sociopathic narcissism? thanks for speaking out!

[911BattleScars01]

By the way, I apologize for being totally off subject in your comments, Elaine. Not sure what this has to do with it!

[NSMDOC]

now since i tried to reply to your bullshit battlescars you and gareth you may have not givin yourself up like gareth did so yeah we cant prove you were doin it but we know gareth was and you were suppoting him fully we covered that yesterday you guys said you wanted things to be cool and then do this..you guys are the ones engaging in bullshit by supporting those who do senseless attacks or perpetuating the situation and you make a video about group think rofl

[911BattleScars01]

I'm supporting people who do senseless attacks? If Garreth has something to say, he says it, and I'm sure he has a reason behind it. What he does is his business, like I told you. I'm not going to hate him for some issue he has with someone else, similar to some people..If I did that would be group think.. "rofl". I'm not here to perpetuate your movement by playing your false set up enemy to reinforce the pack mentality you guys have. This isn't anything to do with brit or bots anyways.. wtf?

[NSMDOC]

you forget your comments on brits page where you actually call a sub of his a vote botter??? second you fuckin brought your bullshit to my page and had your pissing match there instead of your own house...as for group think you claim your parody vid came from smoewhere else then you make several vids attacking brit now its continued here but hwere did it originate over at haystacks i mean gareths channel so as for group think well it dont get much groupier than that...

[911BattleScars01]

I never commented on brits page. I made a video, showing a users endorsement of 1 starring people who don't agree with his friends. he said "I'm going to bomb him with 1*" Is he a vote botter? He might be, who knows, it is evident though, that he will rate your videos poorly if you have a disagreement with his friends. Garreth had a problem with you, he didn't get anyone else to go a long with him. If he did anything, he did it himself. He isn't inspiring group think among his channel about you.

[NSMDOC]

this is where the part about knowing comes in.....knowing and still supporting.....then coming out together as a group like you have the last couple days all anyone has to do is start at brits then go to sorrohelps then got to vincesneeb then go to my page and look at the channel comments to see that by not saying anything and still together as a group working as will be clearly shown is group think and it shows that you are ok with those tactics...that is how it works.

[911BattleScars01]

I'm not posting more irrelevant comments to this video. They aren't saying much now, but there was talk. "coming out together as a group like you have the last couple of days", like I said, If anybody did anything, it was of their own individual actions. I didn't tell them to say anything to anyone. I don't try to sway my peers towards a bias. If they disagree with you folks, thats their choice. I don't encourage people that visit my channel or others to bash people. God help those that do.

[911BattleScars01]

And I'll probably shoot myself If I have to retype this, but here goes. I did not do anything attacking anyone, until I was fucked with first. I put up an AJ parody, big whoop. Someone doesn't like it, so they gather all their little buddies to come fuck with me, and call me a clown on their page? Of course I am going to defend myself. The vid was a joke about AJ, not brit, or any other user, until he decided to make a stab at me with all of the fervent supporters, thus reinforcing group think.

[NSMDOC]

one last time you keep talking about group think well gareth your buddy has been fucking with brit for months then you do it not once but several times where in them the person who made this vid and yourself and gareth all jump anyone who questions what you were sayong....then continued today here......group think first class and exactly what you by way of this video are saying..since the three of you have been doin it for days it is group think and it does apply therefore ROFL get it now

[911BattleScars01]

wtf does Garreth have to do with me? I did not "jump" on brit because of Garreth. I made an april fools video because I thought brit would've found it funny, he did at first. I poke fun at all kinds of people man, comments and otherwise. I find his personality funny, thats just me.I told you this before, you do read what I'm saying to you, right? I even explained this in a video, and pm'd you about this. Whats between You and Garreth doesn't involve me, and me and brit doesn't involve u. Im done

[lazymornings]

I agree with points you make....

for me, getting along with everybody is pretty boring and gets us no where....if people agree with everything.....your thoughts must be pretty simple because I can't find ANYBODY I agree with totally.

Lots of people think anything against is just wrong..which is so shallow...to fail in realising you can be wrong stinks of sociopatthic thought.

[anastasia81472]

Was I on the list? My videos recently got vote botted badly, and I have no idea why. Don't have a lot of "controversial" talk on my channel.  It's mostly poetry.

[NSMDOC]

my videos got vote botted too check the views though the vote bots dont leave views just ratings so the entire premise that the channal she is talking about had anything to do with the vote bots

[NSMDOC]

let me get this straight you are saying that that mrbrit who has so many videos about stopping censorship here and also his videos are well full of actually real activism how many of your videos are real activism??? any of them??? none thats what i thought...the info you are defending were perspnal cheap shots that had nothiong to do with any aspect of the movement it had to do woth you backing personal attacks not a message what kind of bullshit you pushing here.

[NSMDOC]

secondly you and yours stated the personal attacks and now when its backfired on you you are complaining you had two days to stop so here goes right your friends started the personal attack and i told your boyfriend just like im gonna tell you play the bullshit anymore and your buddy mark is gonna come out looking real bad cuz you and yoursa started all the shit with fucking with brit for months now and you guys got exposed for and now you are mad what a fucking joke shut up and get over it

[911BattleScars01]

What did I get exposed for exactly? Im missing the point here. For not liking Alex, and defending myself when they run their mouth about me? Actually, it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with not buying into group-think.. thats what got us here.

[iMBBonlyone]

Well, that totally knocks me out, every statement on the list doesn't apply.

Mom always said my mouth would get me in trouble, people don't like the truth, it makes them uncomfortable.

[911tourettes]

Knocks you out in a good way, I hope!! :-)

[diesel4fr]

i tried to post some thought provoking comments on mrbrits page. to my chagrin found that my comments were blocked by his insecurities from the past.

i wanted to warn him that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. and hes bringing in what he fears the most.

the shitty thing is, we're going to have to deal with it!

peace.

[licoricerain]

he blocked you too huh? it's a wonder anyone can use comments on his page.

[911tourettes]

I feel so honoured. yay! :-)

[coffeedude65]

this fits so many on youtube, the truth movement has been taken over by extremists, for the most part. peace

[911tourettes]

Why do you bother to watch me then? You obviously don't like me, or what I have to say, so why bother to waste your time on me?

[CanadianPatriot1973]

It boils down to insecurity if you ask me. When you look at your list of 8, and think on it. Insecurity is the central theme, wether you are the perpetrator (leader) you have a NEED to lead (feel power). If you are a victim (follower) of it you feel the need to belong (feel needed) Insecurity...

[911tourettes]

I absolutely agree. Yup!!! Insecurity and a need to belong. Great comment! :-)

[mld72mld]

Yes, Very Well Said. Thanks.

[tenebroust]

Say no to censorship of any kind. I don't give a damn what people say about me.

[machinenation]

Really? What if someone called you a pedophile priest ? i.e. something libellous and slanderous that might wreck your reputations ?

What's worse is if you libel someone and they sue you ... eeek.

Good vid elaine - censoring someone who disagrees with your opinion is what we are calling Fascism now - it's Nazism for me - those who 'make the truth' - they fucking make it the way THEY want it !

(why is the homepage subscriptions not showing all your latest vids now ?? is youchoob broke ??)

[911tourettes]

I don't know wtf the story is with poochoob, you're like the fourth person to say that to me! :( I'm obviously being censored!! ROFL!! ;-)

[911BattleScars01]

#5 and #8.. The "movement" needs to take a long hard look at that one. It's shit like this that keeps you locked in the same system, even though you claim you are awake. The people that down star this because of you being critical of them only prove your point.

[911tourettes]

I don't mind, I've hit by the votebotters already so I suppose some 'human' interaction will be nice for a change. That's the difference though, I won't CENSOR their opinion of me. Freedom of speech is a double egded sword, afterall. ;-)

[cv1122]

great video elaine.

[911tourettes]

Thank you! :-) *humbled*

[CORNandCATTLE]

Righteous...

[911tourettes]

Not really, but thank you! :-)

[DeadEyeMorgan]

Interesting...

Reminds me of that bit in American History X where Sisco asks him, 'Has anything you've done made your life better?'

It's some Dalai Lama shit: Base decisions on whether they will make you happy. If you see a situation where the end result will ultimately cause you unhappiness then perhaps it is best to avoid it...

Keep yer chin up... : )

(What's ΣΠΑΡΤΗ mean???)

[licoricerain]

i love that movie =D

[DeadEyeMorgan]

Me too... have you noticed though, everyone of the family's name begins with a 'D'...? Derick, Danny, Dorris, etc... : )

[licoricerain]

LoL i didn't until you mentioned it. they do don't they

[DeadEyeMorgan]

What's ΣΠΑΡΤΗ mean?

[licoricerain]

that's a ron\xena thing O.o

[DeadEyeMorgan]

0_o

[licoricerain]

oh xena is my pet name for elaine XD

[911tourettes]

I love that movie too! The end is fucking heartbreaking!!

My chin IS up, and this causes me no unhappiness whatsoever, just shows how small minded, the supposed 'awake' can be. Longing to belong....

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[TheSpartacat]

"join the club", second door on the left, be sure to check out the gift shop, its got some great t-shirts!!! ;-)

[SkinsDeep]

Very well said, and so calmly. Thanks much.

[911tourettes]

I'm always calm! ;-)

[roach1971]

Hypocrisy is alive and well.

[911tourettes]

It sure is. :(