I am reminded of a time (maybe I was 27, which would be 4 years ago) I was all choked up and infatuated with this girl, she was young, 19 I think, very pretty and just what I needed on the rebound, so I thought. We met at this coffee shop and played open mic night together. It began to move beyond friendship very quickly, and I kissed her once after about 3 weeks. The same day, she bursts out with "do you believe in jesus?". I kissed her again, on the cheek, and said goodbye. Painful, as it was.
@SeedsOfHatred It was sad, because this girl was beautiful in every way, and I suppose she must be one of those determined people who compartmentalizes their intellect when it comes to "the lord", because she was brilliant, wise beyond her years and mine combined, and had a sharp and discerning wit when it came to matters of judgement. She was also a few years younger than me, liked my music (see channel for examples),dark hair, green eyes, big butt, perfect in every way but the jesus thing.
I'm lucky in that none of my personal relationships were negatively impacted upon by my atheism. My mother didn't care though she is a staunch Catholic- she does sometimes preach to me, though. My friends are all atheists too.
Hardly fair to her for him to continue to want to stay in this relationship. She didn't enter into the relationship expecting him to change her. He changed and now wants to change her when he should just bow out. Her beliefs are her beliefs, especially if she chooses after becoming an adult.
We're all just programmes within The Matrix. I'm almost certain that there's a documentary about it. I suggest that anybody who questions religion or life in general should watch it.
My dad was an atheist and my mom was a catholic. For the first 13 years of my life, i was raised in the church and finally one day i asked my dad about god, and he finally came out and told me he was athesit. It took me 1 week to be convinced god didnt exsit than it took 10 years to be convinced god did exist.
i dated a crazy christian girl last year, worst experience of my life and i'll never forgive myself for it. i never had a problem with religion because i never thought about it. All she cared about was converting me and even bought me a bible, forced me to go to church every weekend etc etc. It put such a strain on our relationship it was sick. Thanks to her i see religion for what it is, and that bible has probably been incinerated by the city dump by now =) "thank god" lmao
@AtheismISgod i dated a catholic guy once but he never did any of that stuff.. still it was a pretty bad experience. he would always make little snide comments about me being an atheist.. nothing compared to your situation though . If he ever forced me to go to church i wouldve ended it right there. He did ask me to come to his conformation though (he had to explain to me what that was) ...i politely told him i wouldnt and didnt want.. thank god that relationship is over :P
I honestly couldn't imagine living with people that didn't accept my atheism.The only people that know about my atheism is my family and they dont give a shit.Even my friends dont seem to care when i hint at my beliefs.Its so hard not to point out how asinine christianity is but i hold back nearly every time it comes up so im not ostracized.I just want to screem wake the fuck up,but i dont want to loose friends. I have a catholic friend that bought a neckless that prevents you from going to hell
just curious, are u affiliated with the athiest experience T.V. show or are you just posting their videos on youtube?
My friend believes that if you are wearing said neckless when you die, that no matter what you have done in this life, you will go to heaven. We were talking about the rapture and he was saying, just in case.... im wearing the neckless. Its completely asinine, but not worth a fight over so whatever.
@TheAtheistExperience I think they meant necklace, either way the fact that their friend bought one to prevent them from going to hell is pretty well fecked up and goes to show peoples utter inane irrational fears for this magical bloody sky fairy.
@Haizum74 The necklace is called a scapular. When I was a child I used to wear one a lot because I had been told the same thing about being saved from Hell if you died while wearing it. It's a shame to think such lies are told to children, but I'm not entirely sure it's an official doctrine of the Catholic Church. But it most definitely is a teaching that has continued to be passed down, whether official or not.
I married an atheist. I wouldnt even have considered marrying someone who believed in crazy nonsense. If she believed in dragons or witchcraft or tarot or souls or satan- then I would not have been able to deeply respect her. It's just not possible. I think it's nice that she sees the world for what it is- not how she wants it to be.
All these people have do to is prove their gods are real- and I'm in.
I'm an atheist, and I think that is a weak argument. Someone could just as easily say that his disbelief could cost him a marriage. Obviously, we all side with the guy since he's the more rational. However, I'm sure his girlfriend would be perfectly happy with someone who believes as she does. The issue here, is that they are fundamentally different people at this point. It would be the same if he became ultra conservative and she became ultra liberal.
There are seven billion people on this planet. Two billion of those are Christian. Five billion or 71% of the world's population doesn't give two shits about your God or your Jesus.
""Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Cor. 6:14, KJV). "
So as long as she continues in that social circle,you will be treated as a pariah. Sorry to say that's the case, but the fundies use this shit to justify control by ostracism. Sad for the kid in the middle.
This guys story hits so close to home. My near perfect gf of 6yrs, now ex, went on a retreat and came back a selfish frigid person. Broke my heart cause we were both still very much in love before she left. I tried for a full year to make things work but it was hopeless. I told her I accepted her and loved her regardless. In return she acted as if I was an awful person for not buying into religon. Hope this guy left her. Life is beautiful! Never waste it trying to please closed minded people.
This guy's story is very similar to my own, being married to a devout Catholic for 10 years, when I myself am going on 4 years as a lapsed (or as I consider myself, "recovering" Catholic)...If I still believed in God, I'd think this video was a sign that was meant for me to see!
I'm atheist while my wife is Roman Catholic. We dated and never had a problem with religion affecting our marriage. We agreed that our daughter be christened but that when she is old enough to decide she can do so without parental pressure. My inlaws are strict Catholics and they love me, and vice-versa. It can work if two peope care enough about each other. My love for my wife is stronger than some fantasy book.
End it. Why would you want to be with someone who thinks you will end up in hell? I wouldn't want to be with somebody who puts a faith in a book, before believing in the relationship. Why would a christian want to be with an atheist? Don't they believe their spouse will end up in hell and not with them in the afterlife? It just doesn't make any sense. Date an atheist, it will make your life much easier. Couples have enough to fight about, no need to throw religion into the mix...
why didnt they suggest for this guy to educate his girlfriend. to me thats the obvious thing to do. in my opinion, any rational person can be convinced to change their minds about religion given enough time and evidence. all he has to do is make his girlfriend watch 20 hours of youtube videos and she should start to lose faith
i know exactly what he means, i just had the same problem, but with one of my best friends and he got really defensive and just nasty. all i did was present my reasons for not being christian and all hell broke loose on me. all of the sudden im satan, hostile and pitiful because of something i believe.
@atimor Yes ,, isn`t it crazy how mad they get when they find out you are not "with Jesus" .. Im sure a child that firmly believes in Santa or Peter Cottontail would be equally upset when they find out their beliefs have been squashed.. lol
@bossswanky not that I don't agree that people who know thier beliefs r irrational and still believe anyway, but schizophrenics also see things that aren't there, hear voices, and hav hallucinations. sometimes thier internal monologue is so loud that they honestly can't hear the people around them and they don't know how 2 c the world normally or recognize that thier hallucinations aren't real. altho I do see some of these things in some christians, not most tho
@cruelbusiness1984 I know that, but I was just trying to put out one of the symptom of a schizo. Thanks for putting out some more . Every religious person i've ever met swore they talk to god. Wouldn't you agree that's hearing voices, and I mean most christians. So if I tell u that I saw and talk to the tooth fairy, wouldn't i be consider a schizo. Just because christianity or any other religion is popular belief doesn't take away from the fact. The facts are the facts,
@cruelbusiness1984 and the fact is most of the worlds is crazy. This the matrix baby, red or the blue pill. Here a example of popular belief that was crazy the most people believe in and if you didnt you the one consider crazy, and ironically it come from the bible. The world was flat . Here another, the world is 6000 years old. Red or blue pill Neo
One of my parents is an atheist. The other parent is a Christian. They have been happily married for two and a half decades. It is *possible* to have a lasting relationship with someone who holds very different views than you, if you can agree to disagree. Many people can't. But it's not totally impossible.
I'm an Atheist and was in a pretty deep relationship with a Christian. When we first started dating I asked her if my views would be a problem and she clearly said "no". As time went on that answer became impossible to maintain. If a Christian truly believes in her religion then I think it's impossible to maintain a long lasting relationship with an Atheist. When I look back on it, that relationship was utter HELL. (pun intended). I lost my freedom of thought and had so much guilt laid on me.
@MakeNine32 "saying a new born baby is an atheist is like saying my cat is an atheist"
And I agree with you: you have an atheist cat :) If you would like a different example of non-critical-thinking atheists, you could think in a native tribe that does not venerate any god(s). Its individuals would be all atheists and yet they may venerate their ancestors or even some forces of nature.
@paulpizzey1973 its not about bein 'right,' or 'knowing everything there is 2 know,' its about saying we may not know everything but what we know we can demonstrate, its observable, and reproducable under similiar circumstances with the right equipment, etc. but yeah, I get it
as one has the guts to think for themselves...no matter the consequences...one will have respect. Given, it will likely take a good amount of time for that if the issue(s) are intense. Yet, it will happen. Just a person w/ xperience.
@morganbath Ok, you have a very valid comment. I guess I should have clarified. We were both attending college and the more and more we studied science the less it made sense that there was a god. So we didn't really just wake up one morning, but more of a series of conversations and discussions among ourselves over a few months we decided that something supernatural or divine just didn't make sense. What makes me happy is that we came to the same conclusion along the same timeline.
You no whats funny is that in the bible it even talks about this. It stays more to not "intermingling" but also states that if you are together and your happy, (getting along etc) you should stay together. If the "unbeliever" wants to leave just drop that crap and let em go. This is a pretty important topic. Religion can ruin a relationship, both parties. Id have to admit from personal experience, dating some one from the opposite end doesn't work out a lot :/.
The problem is two fold. He changed, tangibly, and she rejects the change when brought up. There are very few "good" answers here. Unless she becomes more tolerant of his change, it may require that he also tolerates the reality she does not want to change with him.
It CAN work between them... but the odds are not good.
I would suggest he stop bringing up direct challenges to her beliefs, and simply LIVE his belief. It can impact her without her feeling attacked on her own beliefs.
First you need to find another woman. Then you need to have one last night of hot monkey sex with the wife.Tthen you need to tell her goodbye and go have hot monkey sex with the new gf.
If your loved ones and/or friends, cannot, do not or will not Love you for Who YOU are then they do not deserve you. It's the same thing of me coming out, literally out of the closet as a gay man and an anti-theist, my family, took them 8 years, but finally accepted me for who I am, It is THEIR CHOICE to keep you in their lives or not. TELL THEM and have them deal with it, not dealing with it, hiding it or anything else but TELLING THEM and dealing with it, will only end horribly!!
This guy has a kid to think about and doesn't want to leave his loved one. Being confrontational here will only create a push-back aggressive response, GUARANTEEING it will "end horribly" for them. It took him time to change his belief structure, and it may just take her more time, but throwing this in her face will only give her a reason to run away... when he could try to impact her positively in the long term instead.
@DeadlyChinchilla Not pushing your kids into your belief structure is NOT hard... at all. I am proof of this. My family chose their beliefs over me, it took them years to realize their mistake, 8 years ago I would have said it ended horribly, but not it's great, they started looking at WHY I view things the way I do instead of clinging to 2000yr old fears about the unknown, also things such as Human Morals not Religious Morals, and how Religious Morals are LESS than Human morals...
@KidPunkStar101 So you're saying a guy with a CHILD should just allow himself to be ostracized from his family on the hopes they'll later "see the light." Its a little idealistic, no? Its great if your family changed their minds after-the-fact, but many will NOT do this.
The man is trying to maintain his family unit despite a mounting difference between them. This requires tact, patience, and long term commitment despite that issue. Hoping for the best won't win a family trophy.
The girlfriends reaction is one of the reasons why religion has survived (thrived) as long as it has. Immediately dismiss any views that aren't your own, that don't support your agenda, and shun those who have other beliefs.
I also live in Tennessee and had the same issues as this guy. My girlfriend recently broke up and one of the major issues was religion. It's hard to be an atheist living in the bible belt.
My wife is a believer whereas I am not. We both are very happy together. The simple thing is: not to get involved in theological or religious discussion with each other. There are oodles of other subject matter to choose from.
If my partner was religious, it probably would never work between us. I'm quite philosophical, so the conversations we both have would always clash. But fortunately she's an atheist like I am so (whew!) all's good.
The problem with suggesting a couple's counselor to someone from Tennessee, is that it would be almost impossible to find one who is not a Christian who would take the Christian wife's side. (At least that's how it is in Mississippi. 99% of counselors in MS are Christian-based or at least sub-conscously wedge in their Christian beliefs once they have you in their office.)
That's so sad, when people in a relationship can't figure out a way to get along in spite of their differences. Sometimes nothing can save the relationship. A few people manage but usually it's a just lot easier to just find someone who agrees with you.
@seeqer66 With most reasonable people it's simple enough to compromise on various issues. It's when you talk about the possibility of raising children that things get trickier. To a reasonable extent consistency is key when it comes to effective child-rearing, and it's very difficult to be consistent when you and your partner disagree strongly on important issues. It's also very easy to turn the child into a weapon to be turned against your partner in validation of your own views.
@megjett So true. My wife and I are seekers (hence the name) by nature. We focused on teaching our kids HOW to think, rather than what to think. If you look into the mindset of some of these religious people though, what to think, becomes very important.
@seeqer66 I don't know you personally, so I am speaking with little knowledge of your situation. That being said, it sounds like you and your wife are doing very well by your children. Critical thinking is a very important learning and life skill, and it should be applied to every aspect of one's life and supposed knowledge. Precious few people know how to think critically, let alone how to teach their children to do so. Keep it up!
@megjett Well thanks for the praise. It would be too late to change my strategy now. In one week, I will no longer have any children. They'll all be adults. :-D
@seeqer66 Well, congratulations to you and your wife on having raised into adulthood what I hope and think are well-adjusted children reasonably and readily equipped to handle whatever life throws at them. :)
@beesleeper just the other day i saw this pathetic scene mom say to her son don't watch tv, don't play video games and we are not going to eat beef on friday because this and that jesus christ catholic tradition that was something why do something based on a myth
I married a christian, but before we got married we talked on the topic of religion extensively and came to some common understanding. I don't care that she believes in a god, and she don't care that I don't. I think the problem in this case is that his wife/girlfriend takes religion too personally (I've seen it in many others). She takes criticism of her religion as criticism of her person.
@HentaiGaiJin what good will that do when you are best friends with Ned Flanders and instead of lazing on a sofa on a Sunday, you will be clapping for Jesus? I almost got suckered in like that and fuck, no girl is worthy of that, my atheism is just too priceless.
No offense to the caller, but I don't think 4 months is long enough to know to love someone...but I won't doubt his sincerity when he says it nonetheless.
God is a coping mechanism for the fear of death, made up by men in an age of ignorance and superstition. The God of Abraham is certainly a man made construct. The "Gods" will exist as long as the reasons that brought them into existence. Fear, desperation, and wishful thinking aren't going anywhere and neither are "the Gods". The last God will perish with the last man.
His opening statement is an oxymoron. If' Atheists try to say they live in a state of being. If people are born Atheists and it is not any type of religion or anything. Than I would assume that could be true for someone who calls themselves Christian too. Than the caller from Tennessee was never a Christian: or he was always an Atheist; so either he is a Christian or he is Atheist; you cannot wish yourself away from being a Christian on into Atheism(going by Atheistic standards).
Like you know I know you know like like you know well I know but like...well you know...you know like you know? You know before you know like I know you know I like you know!
im a black atheist and my wife is a believer and her parents are preachers!! and when I start studying this and speakin out loud about it my wife looked at me like I was crazy but i slowly but surely wore her down and showed her different information and now shes starting to believe what i say and she married me after I said I was an atheist!!! But you must sit down and talk about it for kids sake!! I showed he JESUS CAMP and I won that battle!!!
I like the show, however often the people who call in can't express themselves without making it an appalling mix of 'you knows/I don't knows/It's likes/eeerrrmms'.
It's so distracting when people can't just get to their point without mumbling...
one of the designs of religion is to keep people seperated(otherwise there would be one religion)....so for an atheist and a theist to get into a romantic relationship is a bad idea(it WONT work)...at some point science and Logic(Athiest) will conflict with the silly,dumb it down,fairy tales,and myths(religion).It may seem like the relationship will work early on..but at some point the two are going to collide.So just save yourself the time and energy and dont date a thiest.
@ether150 not true, I dated a Christian girl for 3 and a half years, religion was nothing to do with the reason we split up. We had a great time together
I'm an atheist and my girlfriend is religious too but she doesn't mind me being an atheist and she is a progressive religious person who knows the inaccuracies of the bible and acknowledges evolution. She just likes the fact of an invisible being looking over her. She doesn't try and press her beliefs on me and I'm not telling her not to believe in god because I know how difficult it is for people who believe for so long to give it up just like that. I think one day she'll realize on her own.
It's always the chick that's fuckin' nuts. I've been calling my girlfriend a Nazi all day! I don't think she really understands what I'm trying to say about her (controlling bitch :P). I love her though.
If mutual respect exists then any conflict in philosophy shouldn't be any barrier in a relationship. I can understand, however, that the belief that one's partner is destined to eternal torment can undermine that mutual respect.
Of the 2 major relationships (and tons of minor) I have had in my life both have been with christian women. I am now married to the 2nd one. Both new up front I was an atheist. So I cant really say I know where this guy is coming from. The first I was 8 months from the wedding and dumped me because I was an atheist after 4 years. All I can say is be open, honest, loving, carring and supporting of each others beliefs and persons. If it is not enough nothing will ever be enough! Married for 3 now!
@jda978 One big reason couples split is because marriage is coming soon and they start thinking: "do I really want to spend the rest of my life with this person?" Sucks when the answer is no. Especially if the reason was so obvious from the start.
@Drecon84 In my case it was the religion aspect. She was pressured by family and church NOT to marry me because I was an atheist. Funny after 4 years it made a difference. But it doesnt matter now I am much happier with the woman I ended up with. We have an open honest relationship about it. Plus even though she is a christian she doesnt believe in hell either. she says if there is an after life she gets to be the one to torture me and not some dude in tights! LOL
I watched 4:50 of this. That was all I could take. Listen dude, I assume she is tagging you, if not, split. If you can put up with the Jesus talk, if she makes you happy, stay. If it is something you "wish" would work but seems like will always be more work than happiness, split. You only get one shot in this life, find the right partner and enjoy life. 4 months investment means nothing. If it was 4 years that would mean something. Be nice, but you owe nothing.
As one who lives with a believer, just keep those topics off the dinner table. Talk about other stuff... You will not agree on some levels. If not religion then politics or whatever. Don't be afraid being with someone you love just because she holds different views. Trust me, women, by-definition, are a bizarre man-like species :)
Good luck with your relationship. my best advice to you is: show your children both ways. Let them choose for themselves.
my girlfriend went to a catholic school. i am happy to say that she is now a non believer. her dad thought that spending so much on school would make her smarter. he couldn't have been more wrong.
@SexyArcanine666 no i meant the universal law of truth, as in eternal laws of energy, haha, that actually SUPPORT science and a god which everything and is 100% logical all the time :D not just one that pretends to be, oh and it doesn't need your belief, i suppose I should call it gravity o.0
And how does it support a god? Why not a dragon or pickachu? And the eternal laws? How are the laws eternal if they have not applied for ever? They have only been around for 14 billion years. Go study science, then come back.
@SexyArcanine666 the word god or any characterisation you give it like dragon or pickachu implies life alone, not special properties, the only properties of a PERFECT being are PERFECTION, but to understand PERFECTION you must understand THE ALL, origins and purpose, then you will understand TRUTH and thus PERFECTION. no more like 27 billion billion I think personally, 14b is too short. I do not believe in the big bang, it has holes :)
i wish this video had a better response to the caller
scsiiphreak 2 weeks ago
just dont get in custody battle she will use ur atheism against you
studkiller464 2 months ago
I am reminded of a time (maybe I was 27, which would be 4 years ago) I was all choked up and infatuated with this girl, she was young, 19 I think, very pretty and just what I needed on the rebound, so I thought. We met at this coffee shop and played open mic night together. It began to move beyond friendship very quickly, and I kissed her once after about 3 weeks. The same day, she bursts out with "do you believe in jesus?". I kissed her again, on the cheek, and said goodbye. Painful, as it was.
AdamRainStopper 3 months ago
@AdamRainStopper Haha. Reminds me of the House M.D. episode when they're speed-dating.
Woman: "I don't want kids..."
House: "Check..."
Woman: "I'm thinking about going from a C to a D..."
House: "Quadruple check..."
Woman: "And I'm on FIRE for the Lord!"
House: *Silence*
SeedsOfHatred 1 month ago
@SeedsOfHatred It was sad, because this girl was beautiful in every way, and I suppose she must be one of those determined people who compartmentalizes their intellect when it comes to "the lord", because she was brilliant, wise beyond her years and mine combined, and had a sharp and discerning wit when it came to matters of judgement. She was also a few years younger than me, liked my music (see channel for examples),dark hair, green eyes, big butt, perfect in every way but the jesus thing.
AdamRainStopper 1 month ago
I'm lucky in that none of my personal relationships were negatively impacted upon by my atheism. My mother didn't care though she is a staunch Catholic- she does sometimes preach to me, though. My friends are all atheists too.
Nabiki73 3 months ago
I'm attracted to smart women and Tracy drives me crazy.
dj69918 4 months ago
Hardly fair to her for him to continue to want to stay in this relationship. She didn't enter into the relationship expecting him to change her. He changed and now wants to change her when he should just bow out. Her beliefs are her beliefs, especially if she chooses after becoming an adult.
RickE1poker 5 months ago
666 likes! Don't anyone else dare like it!
TheDrewpdog 5 months ago
We're all just programmes within The Matrix. I'm almost certain that there's a documentary about it. I suggest that anybody who questions religion or life in general should watch it.
francistheindividual 6 months ago
My dad was an atheist and my mom was a catholic. For the first 13 years of my life, i was raised in the church and finally one day i asked my dad about god, and he finally came out and told me he was athesit. It took me 1 week to be convinced god didnt exsit than it took 10 years to be convinced god did exist.
BriannasPlanet 6 months ago
i dated a crazy christian girl last year, worst experience of my life and i'll never forgive myself for it. i never had a problem with religion because i never thought about it. All she cared about was converting me and even bought me a bible, forced me to go to church every weekend etc etc. It put such a strain on our relationship it was sick. Thanks to her i see religion for what it is, and that bible has probably been incinerated by the city dump by now =) "thank god" lmao
AtheismISgod 6 months ago
@AtheismISgod i dated a catholic guy once but he never did any of that stuff.. still it was a pretty bad experience. he would always make little snide comments about me being an atheist.. nothing compared to your situation though . If he ever forced me to go to church i wouldve ended it right there. He did ask me to come to his conformation though (he had to explain to me what that was) ...i politely told him i wouldnt and didnt want.. thank god that relationship is over :P
rockrulles3456 6 months ago
Matt looks JUST like my youth pastor when I was a kid.
He was a good man, I still don't regret becoming an atheist though.
MBoothe517 6 months ago
LOL Tracy looked like a deer in the headlights during the rap music. Come on, Trace, loosen up and jive!
smb12321 7 months ago
I had a long term girlfriend who I accidentally turned into an atheist.
I felt really bad about it for awhile but I'm fairly sure that I did her a favour in the long run.
TheOmegajuice 7 months ago
Thanks to this show. Satan made this show by the way
franzpanda 8 months ago
I honestly couldn't imagine living with people that didn't accept my atheism.The only people that know about my atheism is my family and they dont give a shit.Even my friends dont seem to care when i hint at my beliefs.Its so hard not to point out how asinine christianity is but i hold back nearly every time it comes up so im not ostracized.I just want to screem wake the fuck up,but i dont want to loose friends. I have a catholic friend that bought a neckless that prevents you from going to hell
OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp 8 months ago 13
@OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp
- "I have a catholic friend that bought a neckless that prevents you from going to hell"
A neckless what? :)
TheAtheistExperience 8 months ago 11
@TheAtheistExperience
just curious, are u affiliated with the athiest experience T.V. show or are you just posting their videos on youtube?
My friend believes that if you are wearing said neckless when you die, that no matter what you have done in this life, you will go to heaven. We were talking about the rapture and he was saying, just in case.... im wearing the neckless. Its completely asinine, but not worth a fight over so whatever.
OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp 8 months ago
@OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp
- "are u affiliated with the athiest experience T.V. show or are you just posting their videos on youtube?"
Just a European fan of the show.
- "im wearing the neckless."
The word is necklace. If you are neckless, you can't wear a necklace.
TheAtheistExperience 8 months ago 21
@TheAtheistExperience I think they meant necklace, either way the fact that their friend bought one to prevent them from going to hell is pretty well fecked up and goes to show peoples utter inane irrational fears for this magical bloody sky fairy.
Haizum74 8 months ago
@Haizum74 The necklace is called a scapular. When I was a child I used to wear one a lot because I had been told the same thing about being saved from Hell if you died while wearing it. It's a shame to think such lies are told to children, but I'm not entirely sure it's an official doctrine of the Catholic Church. But it most definitely is a teaching that has continued to be passed down, whether official or not.
johnjsal 4 months ago
@johnjsal Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
Haizum74 4 months ago
@TheAtheistExperience I think they meant necklace.
squreshi10 5 months ago
being married to a christain is like being married to a nazie
swbf2fan2510 8 months ago
I married an atheist. I wouldnt even have considered marrying someone who believed in crazy nonsense. If she believed in dragons or witchcraft or tarot or souls or satan- then I would not have been able to deeply respect her. It's just not possible. I think it's nice that she sees the world for what it is- not how she wants it to be.
All these people have do to is prove their gods are real- and I'm in.
cameraperson 9 months ago
@MunkyDrag0n
I'm an atheist, and I think that is a weak argument. Someone could just as easily say that his disbelief could cost him a marriage. Obviously, we all side with the guy since he's the more rational. However, I'm sure his girlfriend would be perfectly happy with someone who believes as she does. The issue here, is that they are fundamentally different people at this point. It would be the same if he became ultra conservative and she became ultra liberal.
opmike343 9 months ago
@opmike343 You got me there. This was a fundamental difference in belief. It could cost anyone a marriage...
MunkyDrag0n 9 months ago
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There are seven billion people on this planet. Two billion of those are Christian. Five billion or 71% of the world's population doesn't give two shits about your God or your Jesus.
ZachKlever 9 months ago
The problem is that the dictate of her faith is:
""Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Cor. 6:14, KJV). "
So as long as she continues in that social circle,you will be treated as a pariah. Sorry to say that's the case, but the fundies use this shit to justify control by ostracism. Sad for the kid in the middle.
moopism 9 months ago
This guys story hits so close to home. My near perfect gf of 6yrs, now ex, went on a retreat and came back a selfish frigid person. Broke my heart cause we were both still very much in love before she left. I tried for a full year to make things work but it was hopeless. I told her I accepted her and loved her regardless. In return she acted as if I was an awful person for not buying into religon. Hope this guy left her. Life is beautiful! Never waste it trying to please closed minded people.
tacoliqour 9 months ago
This guy's story is very similar to my own, being married to a devout Catholic for 10 years, when I myself am going on 4 years as a lapsed (or as I consider myself, "recovering" Catholic)...If I still believed in God, I'd think this video was a sign that was meant for me to see!
mrpink99 9 months ago
Time to say good-bye to her.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 9 months ago
I'm atheist while my wife is Roman Catholic. We dated and never had a problem with religion affecting our marriage. We agreed that our daughter be christened but that when she is old enough to decide she can do so without parental pressure. My inlaws are strict Catholics and they love me, and vice-versa. It can work if two peope care enough about each other. My love for my wife is stronger than some fantasy book.
RyUxWiLL 10 months ago 8
@RyUxWiLL wonder how your wife reconciles it...
jns124able 10 months ago
@jns124able
Well my wife isn't a hardcore Catholic but she does believe there is a god while I don't. We have never had arguments about it.
RyUxWiLL 10 months ago
@RyUxWiLL Does your wife think you're going to hell when you die?
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81
She doesn't know but we often joke about it. Like if there is a god then she'll put in a good word for me. -=)
RyUxWiLL 10 months ago
@RyUxWiLL Thank you for telling your story, it inspires me:)
CountryGirll40 6 months ago
@CountryGirll40 I'm glad it does. Think of it like this...If there were a god, would he separate two people that love each other for all eternity?
RyUxWiLL 6 months ago
End it. Why would you want to be with someone who thinks you will end up in hell? I wouldn't want to be with somebody who puts a faith in a book, before believing in the relationship. Why would a christian want to be with an atheist? Don't they believe their spouse will end up in hell and not with them in the afterlife? It just doesn't make any sense. Date an atheist, it will make your life much easier. Couples have enough to fight about, no need to throw religion into the mix...
shadesters 10 months ago
this is what religion does to ppls relationships, religion actually keeps us from being unified
tamu77095 10 months ago 22
I was religious a few years ago when I got married. I lost my faith now and my wife doesn't know.
Centerman2k 10 months ago
@Centerman2k You're a teen...
Pentagon1311 10 months ago
Wow y'all probably don't believe in God because y'all are the ones to lose faith and turn against God.
justtdoiit 10 months ago
@justtdoiit You can't turn 'against' something you don't believe is real.
Dgen717 10 months ago
@justtdoiit Lose faith? What faith?
Turn against god? What god?
I was raised in a family that never believes in any god, and I have a lot of friends who are atheists just like me.
You better get used to people like us, you gullible god believer!
gupsphoo 10 months ago
@BurningLove17 Are you serious? The amount of evidence disproving christianity is enormous, literally.
xYNewZealandRulzXy 10 months ago
why didnt they suggest for this guy to educate his girlfriend. to me thats the obvious thing to do. in my opinion, any rational person can be convinced to change their minds about religion given enough time and evidence. all he has to do is make his girlfriend watch 20 hours of youtube videos and she should start to lose faith
NFLdoWORK 10 months ago
i know exactly what he means, i just had the same problem, but with one of my best friends and he got really defensive and just nasty. all i did was present my reasons for not being christian and all hell broke loose on me. all of the sudden im satan, hostile and pitiful because of something i believe.
atimor 10 months ago
@atimor Yes ,, isn`t it crazy how mad they get when they find out you are not "with Jesus" .. Im sure a child that firmly believes in Santa or Peter Cottontail would be equally upset when they find out their beliefs have been squashed.. lol
guahould 10 months ago
pics of girl?
HalfricanItalian 10 months ago
@HalfricanItalian lol ,, she is kinda cute eh...
guahould 10 months ago
i like there chemistry, it seems tracy and matt are the smartest people on atheist experience
fleshy2000 10 months ago
ATTENTION schizophrenic is false belief or thoughts that's not base in reality (delusional) that sound like religion dont it.
bossswanky 10 months ago
@bossswanky not that I don't agree that people who know thier beliefs r irrational and still believe anyway, but schizophrenics also see things that aren't there, hear voices, and hav hallucinations. sometimes thier internal monologue is so loud that they honestly can't hear the people around them and they don't know how 2 c the world normally or recognize that thier hallucinations aren't real. altho I do see some of these things in some christians, not most tho
cruelbusiness1984 10 months ago
@cruelbusiness1984 I know that, but I was just trying to put out one of the symptom of a schizo. Thanks for putting out some more . Every religious person i've ever met swore they talk to god. Wouldn't you agree that's hearing voices, and I mean most christians. So if I tell u that I saw and talk to the tooth fairy, wouldn't i be consider a schizo. Just because christianity or any other religion is popular belief doesn't take away from the fact. The facts are the facts,
bossswanky 10 months ago
@cruelbusiness1984 and the fact is most of the worlds is crazy. This the matrix baby, red or the blue pill. Here a example of popular belief that was crazy the most people believe in and if you didnt you the one consider crazy, and ironically it come from the bible. The world was flat . Here another, the world is 6000 years old. Red or blue pill Neo
bossswanky 10 months ago
He didn't answer Matt's question, "is it a one way street?"
Pigroota 10 months ago
No matter what you say you can un-brainwash me.
zegthuszag 10 months ago
One of my parents is an atheist. The other parent is a Christian. They have been happily married for two and a half decades. It is *possible* to have a lasting relationship with someone who holds very different views than you, if you can agree to disagree. Many people can't. But it's not totally impossible.
Mirrorwind 10 months ago
@Mirrorwind it just takes work, patience and understanding
cruelbusiness1984 10 months ago
I'm an Atheist and was in a pretty deep relationship with a Christian. When we first started dating I asked her if my views would be a problem and she clearly said "no". As time went on that answer became impossible to maintain. If a Christian truly believes in her religion then I think it's impossible to maintain a long lasting relationship with an Atheist. When I look back on it, that relationship was utter HELL. (pun intended). I lost my freedom of thought and had so much guilt laid on me.
AdamGiaIsMetal 10 months ago
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@MakeNine32 "saying a new born baby is an atheist is like saying my cat is an atheist"
And I agree with you: you have an atheist cat :) If you would like a different example of non-critical-thinking atheists, you could think in a native tribe that does not venerate any god(s). Its individuals would be all atheists and yet they may venerate their ancestors or even some forces of nature.
dcontard 10 months ago
Theists could rid atheism on the earth if they could only show proof.
One piece of testable evidence. Just one.
pchtermino1 10 months ago
fuck man, i could never ever handle something like that.
SkelpYourHead 10 months ago
Is tracie "harris" jewish by any chance...
soccermasta14 10 months ago
Tracie is hot !
-And well educated :)
soccermasta14 10 months ago
The caller is saying "you know" more than a valley girl says "like"
djoracle23 10 months ago
no matter what you say I will always believe in god!
4HeartsWinx 10 months ago
@4HeartsWinx That is a real shame. You will never know what it is like to be right.
paulpizzey1973 10 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 its not about bein 'right,' or 'knowing everything there is 2 know,' its about saying we may not know everything but what we know we can demonstrate, its observable, and reproducable under similiar circumstances with the right equipment, etc. but yeah, I get it
cruelbusiness1984 10 months ago
@4HeartsWinx. How Sad.
DisturbedRenegade 10 months ago
as one has the guts to think for themselves...no matter the consequences...one will have respect. Given, it will likely take a good amount of time for that if the issue(s) are intense. Yet, it will happen. Just a person w/ xperience.
davemelnick 10 months ago
I guess that I am fortunate that my girlfriend is a biologist and I'm studying physics. We decided to become atheists at the same time.
autofixation 10 months ago
@autofixation How do you 'decide' to become an atheist? :) You mean you decided to 'come out of the closet' and admit you did not believe?
morganbath 10 months ago 3
@morganbath Ok, you have a very valid comment. I guess I should have clarified. We were both attending college and the more and more we studied science the less it made sense that there was a god. So we didn't really just wake up one morning, but more of a series of conversations and discussions among ourselves over a few months we decided that something supernatural or divine just didn't make sense. What makes me happy is that we came to the same conclusion along the same timeline.
autofixation 10 months ago
I love this show!!!!
zacharylansing 10 months ago 2
Calling from Tennessee? Well, we're a very very strange state.
wodentoad1 10 months ago
You no whats funny is that in the bible it even talks about this. It stays more to not "intermingling" but also states that if you are together and your happy, (getting along etc) you should stay together. If the "unbeliever" wants to leave just drop that crap and let em go. This is a pretty important topic. Religion can ruin a relationship, both parties. Id have to admit from personal experience, dating some one from the opposite end doesn't work out a lot :/.
Melexonitrate 10 months ago
The problem is two fold. He changed, tangibly, and she rejects the change when brought up. There are very few "good" answers here. Unless she becomes more tolerant of his change, it may require that he also tolerates the reality she does not want to change with him.
It CAN work between them... but the odds are not good.
I would suggest he stop bringing up direct challenges to her beliefs, and simply LIVE his belief. It can impact her without her feeling attacked on her own beliefs.
DeadlyChinchilla 10 months ago 2
Matt dillahunty = qualified relationship counsellor
sammygee17 10 months ago
First you need to find another woman. Then you need to have one last night of hot monkey sex with the wife.Tthen you need to tell her goodbye and go have hot monkey sex with the new gf.
GypsyMofakka 10 months ago
@GypsyMofakka Says the one who will have multiple divorces on their list by age 35...
DeadlyChinchilla 10 months ago
@DeadlyChinchilla - 46. Married 24 years to the same woman... I mean broad.
GypsyMofakka 10 months ago
@GypsyMofakka Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed. Does she *know* how you talk about her, or is it a private resentment you harbor?
DeadlyChinchilla 10 months ago
@DeadlyChinchilla Oh she knows. I scream it at her while I'm kicking her ass across the kitchen floor where I keep her chained to the fridge.
GypsyMofakka 10 months ago
If your loved ones and/or friends, cannot, do not or will not Love you for Who YOU are then they do not deserve you. It's the same thing of me coming out, literally out of the closet as a gay man and an anti-theist, my family, took them 8 years, but finally accepted me for who I am, It is THEIR CHOICE to keep you in their lives or not. TELL THEM and have them deal with it, not dealing with it, hiding it or anything else but TELLING THEM and dealing with it, will only end horribly!!
KidPunkStar101 10 months ago 3
@KidPunkStar101 Dramatized and useless, I'm sorry to say.
This guy has a kid to think about and doesn't want to leave his loved one. Being confrontational here will only create a push-back aggressive response, GUARANTEEING it will "end horribly" for them. It took him time to change his belief structure, and it may just take her more time, but throwing this in her face will only give her a reason to run away... when he could try to impact her positively in the long term instead.
DeadlyChinchilla 10 months ago 2
@DeadlyChinchilla Not pushing your kids into your belief structure is NOT hard... at all. I am proof of this. My family chose their beliefs over me, it took them years to realize their mistake, 8 years ago I would have said it ended horribly, but not it's great, they started looking at WHY I view things the way I do instead of clinging to 2000yr old fears about the unknown, also things such as Human Morals not Religious Morals, and how Religious Morals are LESS than Human morals...
KidPunkStar101 10 months ago 2
@KidPunkStar101 I realized this 4 myself as well when I started asking questions
cruelbusiness1984 10 months ago
@KidPunkStar101 So you're saying a guy with a CHILD should just allow himself to be ostracized from his family on the hopes they'll later "see the light." Its a little idealistic, no? Its great if your family changed their minds after-the-fact, but many will NOT do this.
The man is trying to maintain his family unit despite a mounting difference between them. This requires tact, patience, and long term commitment despite that issue. Hoping for the best won't win a family trophy.
DeadlyChinchilla 10 months ago
@KidPunkStar101 "... instead of clinging to 2000 yr old fears about the unknown." Good description!
Brenda2OOO 10 months ago
love is your emotional irrational brain trumping your rational brain.
AndrzejWLipski 10 months ago
The girlfriends reaction is one of the reasons why religion has survived (thrived) as long as it has. Immediately dismiss any views that aren't your own, that don't support your agenda, and shun those who have other beliefs.
MrHumanBeingHuman 10 months ago
I also live in Tennessee and had the same issues as this guy. My girlfriend recently broke up and one of the major issues was religion. It's hard to be an atheist living in the bible belt.
EndersQuest 10 months ago
My wife is a believer whereas I am not. We both are very happy together. The simple thing is: not to get involved in theological or religious discussion with each other. There are oodles of other subject matter to choose from.
belwoodzzzz 10 months ago
If my partner was religious, it probably would never work between us. I'm quite philosophical, so the conversations we both have would always clash. But fortunately she's an atheist like I am so (whew!) all's good.
Domzdream 10 months ago
That was an intense episode...
VangornX 10 months ago
The problem with suggesting a couple's counselor to someone from Tennessee, is that it would be almost impossible to find one who is not a Christian who would take the Christian wife's side. (At least that's how it is in Mississippi. 99% of counselors in MS are Christian-based or at least sub-conscously wedge in their Christian beliefs once they have you in their office.)
AnnaMayEyes 10 months ago 4
That's so sad, when people in a relationship can't figure out a way to get along in spite of their differences. Sometimes nothing can save the relationship. A few people manage but usually it's a just lot easier to just find someone who agrees with you.
seeqer66 10 months ago 2
@seeqer66 With most reasonable people it's simple enough to compromise on various issues. It's when you talk about the possibility of raising children that things get trickier. To a reasonable extent consistency is key when it comes to effective child-rearing, and it's very difficult to be consistent when you and your partner disagree strongly on important issues. It's also very easy to turn the child into a weapon to be turned against your partner in validation of your own views.
megjett 8 months ago
@megjett So true. My wife and I are seekers (hence the name) by nature. We focused on teaching our kids HOW to think, rather than what to think. If you look into the mindset of some of these religious people though, what to think, becomes very important.
seeqer66 8 months ago
@seeqer66 I don't know you personally, so I am speaking with little knowledge of your situation. That being said, it sounds like you and your wife are doing very well by your children. Critical thinking is a very important learning and life skill, and it should be applied to every aspect of one's life and supposed knowledge. Precious few people know how to think critically, let alone how to teach their children to do so. Keep it up!
megjett 8 months ago
@megjett Well thanks for the praise. It would be too late to change my strategy now. In one week, I will no longer have any children. They'll all be adults. :-D
seeqer66 8 months ago
@seeqer66 Well, congratulations to you and your wife on having raised into adulthood what I hope and think are well-adjusted children reasonably and readily equipped to handle whatever life throws at them. :)
megjett 8 months ago
Indoctrination of children with religious nonsense is a crime.
beesleeper 10 months ago 78
@beesleeper just the other day i saw this pathetic scene mom say to her son don't watch tv, don't play video games and we are not going to eat beef on friday because this and that jesus christ catholic tradition that was something why do something based on a myth
legolasgreenleaff 10 months ago
@legolasgreenleaff
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beesleeper 10 months ago
@beesleeper I hear that. I speak as a victim of that crime, by the way.
Flowerblood 9 months ago
Thank GOD that I'm atheist and so is my wife
telinit5 10 months ago 13
I married a christian, but before we got married we talked on the topic of religion extensively and came to some common understanding. I don't care that she believes in a god, and she don't care that I don't. I think the problem in this case is that his wife/girlfriend takes religion too personally (I've seen it in many others). She takes criticism of her religion as criticism of her person.
task2k 10 months ago 5
Let's slow down here...we're forgetting the most important issue: is she hot?
HentaiGaiJin 10 months ago 126
@HentaiGaiJin what good will that do when you are best friends with Ned Flanders and instead of lazing on a sofa on a Sunday, you will be clapping for Jesus? I almost got suckered in like that and fuck, no girl is worthy of that, my atheism is just too priceless.
makemarker 10 months ago
@hempartist420 keep your head up.HADOKEN!!!
TheDarkHadoken 10 months ago
Religion a sad sad wasteful thing. You wanna know how not to Love??...join a religion.
mytv80 10 months ago 5
No offense to the caller, but I don't think 4 months is long enough to know to love someone...but I won't doubt his sincerity when he says it nonetheless.
DesmondMcMillian 10 months ago
God is a coping mechanism for the fear of death, made up by men in an age of ignorance and superstition. The God of Abraham is certainly a man made construct. The "Gods" will exist as long as the reasons that brought them into existence. Fear, desperation, and wishful thinking aren't going anywhere and neither are "the Gods". The last God will perish with the last man.
metalsusa1 10 months ago 4
You guys are awesome. What great advice.
Godsmasher22 10 months ago 3
His opening statement is an oxymoron. If' Atheists try to say they live in a state of being. If people are born Atheists and it is not any type of religion or anything. Than I would assume that could be true for someone who calls themselves Christian too. Than the caller from Tennessee was never a Christian: or he was always an Atheist; so either he is a Christian or he is Atheist; you cannot wish yourself away from being a Christian on into Atheism(going by Atheistic standards).
Next, Atheist
mamaschristmasbunny 10 months ago
I'm a lucky bugger, my lovely girlfriend is just as heathen as I am :D
666satanification666 10 months ago 2
@thatamazinggeek I thought it was that the temptation was too great to have sex with them. A naked pig is asking to be raped.
movieklump 10 months ago
is Tracey Harris related to Sam Harris? :P
yamenhawit 10 months ago
Like you know I know you know like like you know well I know but like...well you know...you know like you know? You know before you know like I know you know I like you know!
Deimos69r 10 months ago
This video should be shown to every couple in this situation.
Henysheadonwall 10 months ago
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drche420 10 months ago
im a black atheist and my wife is a believer and her parents are preachers!! and when I start studying this and speakin out loud about it my wife looked at me like I was crazy but i slowly but surely wore her down and showed her different information and now shes starting to believe what i say and she married me after I said I was an atheist!!! But you must sit down and talk about it for kids sake!! I showed he JESUS CAMP and I won that battle!!!
3nreid 10 months ago
love the new song you should so play that on the show every time!!! please
sieve417 10 months ago
I have the exactly the same thing with my girlfriend!!! EXACTLY!
jezza170 10 months ago
I like the show, however often the people who call in can't express themselves without making it an appalling mix of 'you knows/I don't knows/It's likes/eeerrrmms'.
It's so distracting when people can't just get to their point without mumbling...
sf200425997 10 months ago
lol this "coming out" thing sounds so odd to someone like me thats in the UK.
marcarmstrong88 10 months ago
one of the designs of religion is to keep people seperated(otherwise there would be one religion)....so for an atheist and a theist to get into a romantic relationship is a bad idea(it WONT work)...at some point science and Logic(Athiest) will conflict with the silly,dumb it down,fairy tales,and myths(religion).It may seem like the relationship will work early on..but at some point the two are going to collide.So just save yourself the time and energy and dont date a thiest.
ether150 10 months ago
@ether150 not true, I dated a Christian girl for 3 and a half years, religion was nothing to do with the reason we split up. We had a great time together
ezelouie 10 months ago
I'm an atheist and my girlfriend is religious too but she doesn't mind me being an atheist and she is a progressive religious person who knows the inaccuracies of the bible and acknowledges evolution. She just likes the fact of an invisible being looking over her. She doesn't try and press her beliefs on me and I'm not telling her not to believe in god because I know how difficult it is for people who believe for so long to give it up just like that. I think one day she'll realize on her own.
funderkitty07 10 months ago
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funderkitty07 10 months ago
My pet hamster is christian and got kicked out of church for being too intellectual.
movieklump 10 months ago 3
It's always the chick that's fuckin' nuts. I've been calling my girlfriend a Nazi all day! I don't think she really understands what I'm trying to say about her (controlling bitch :P). I love her though.
Boy192 10 months ago
it's enfuriating to see that religion can destroy something as beautiful as the affection between two human beings. Poor guy!
ikwillet 10 months ago
lol one dislike. The caller's girlfriend for sure
UseYerEFFINBrain 10 months ago 46
@UseYerEFFINBrain Yeah, and the likes = 333, which is half of 666. See, we who support this program ain't all bad — we're only half evil >:)
Boy192 10 months ago
@UseYerEFFINBrain 2 more dislikes. His ex-gfs are taking action too.
ahmedeox 10 months ago
If mutual respect exists then any conflict in philosophy shouldn't be any barrier in a relationship. I can understand, however, that the belief that one's partner is destined to eternal torment can undermine that mutual respect.
Misterb0z 10 months ago
Sounds like she is already judge by her christian peers. Can't ignore it forever.
rich2rock 10 months ago
I hate reasonable callers ... I dig the wacky Xtians !!!
MaitreyaRocket 10 months ago
2:36 thats what got to me ...so true
sendvic12 10 months ago
Of the 2 major relationships (and tons of minor) I have had in my life both have been with christian women. I am now married to the 2nd one. Both new up front I was an atheist. So I cant really say I know where this guy is coming from. The first I was 8 months from the wedding and dumped me because I was an atheist after 4 years. All I can say is be open, honest, loving, carring and supporting of each others beliefs and persons. If it is not enough nothing will ever be enough! Married for 3 now!
jda978 10 months ago
@jda978 One big reason couples split is because marriage is coming soon and they start thinking: "do I really want to spend the rest of my life with this person?" Sucks when the answer is no. Especially if the reason was so obvious from the start.
Drecon84 10 months ago
@Drecon84 In my case it was the religion aspect. She was pressured by family and church NOT to marry me because I was an atheist. Funny after 4 years it made a difference. But it doesnt matter now I am much happier with the woman I ended up with. We have an open honest relationship about it. Plus even though she is a christian she doesnt believe in hell either. she says if there is an after life she gets to be the one to torture me and not some dude in tights! LOL
jda978 10 months ago
Tracie is awesome!
TimothyStuartRiches 10 months ago 2
Respect to this guy for not bailing, being there for his child & loving his woman enough to Want to work this out. Props man!
AKICKTOTHEEYE 10 months ago
this show should last longer
WorkHard91 10 months ago
God never existed!!! this is a myth 1000%, its boogie man to keep the masses of adults under control
zerogascar 10 months ago
Why is it so difficult for so many women to understand scientific evidence?
FixedNewsChannel 10 months ago
@FixedNewsChannel
I think it's just most indoctrinated people in general.
MisterListerine 10 months ago
I think logic101 would be an awesome class o.O
dbx2soha 10 months ago
I watched 4:50 of this. That was all I could take. Listen dude, I assume she is tagging you, if not, split. If you can put up with the Jesus talk, if she makes you happy, stay. If it is something you "wish" would work but seems like will always be more work than happiness, split. You only get one shot in this life, find the right partner and enjoy life. 4 months investment means nothing. If it was 4 years that would mean something. Be nice, but you owe nothing.
joestfrancois 10 months ago
@joestfrancois
I think he meant 4 months since the problems started happening.
SubstancePrime 10 months ago
theyre both wearing red and they look like DEMONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SATEN!!!!!!
Kolbehh 10 months ago
As one who lives with a believer, just keep those topics off the dinner table. Talk about other stuff... You will not agree on some levels. If not religion then politics or whatever. Don't be afraid being with someone you love just because she holds different views. Trust me, women, by-definition, are a bizarre man-like species :)
Good luck with your relationship. my best advice to you is: show your children both ways. Let them choose for themselves.
Good luck!
Dv Narxx
dvnarxx 10 months ago
Love the information and messages and intelligence here. Big fan.
Tracie is nice to look at too!
TheYTViolation 10 months ago
my girlfriend went to a catholic school. i am happy to say that she is now a non believer. her dad thought that spending so much on school would make her smarter. he couldn't have been more wrong.
defect530 10 months ago
if you argue about petty shit that means NOTHING, then you don't understand god
sonicsoul0 10 months ago
@sonicsoul0
What god? Vishnu? Zeus? Pickachu?
SexyArcanine666 10 months ago
@SexyArcanine666 no i meant the universal law of truth, as in eternal laws of energy, haha, that actually SUPPORT science and a god which everything and is 100% logical all the time :D not just one that pretends to be, oh and it doesn't need your belief, i suppose I should call it gravity o.0
sonicsoul0 10 months ago
@sonicsoul0
And how does it support a god? Why not a dragon or pickachu? And the eternal laws? How are the laws eternal if they have not applied for ever? They have only been around for 14 billion years. Go study science, then come back.
SexyArcanine666 10 months ago
@SexyArcanine666 the word god or any characterisation you give it like dragon or pickachu implies life alone, not special properties, the only properties of a PERFECT being are PERFECTION, but to understand PERFECTION you must understand THE ALL, origins and purpose, then you will understand TRUTH and thus PERFECTION. no more like 27 billion billion I think personally, 14b is too short. I do not believe in the big bang, it has holes :)
sonicsoul0 10 months ago