The Omniscience Problem - The Impossibility of God

[ubermechazillatron]

God would know that he'd change his mind. There's no contradiction here. Meghan from Shock's room used this argument and I explained it to her. She now gets that there's no problem here.

[587Thumper]

@ubermechazillatron If you know beforehand that you'll "change your mind," you havent changed your mind. Your decision has been known all along, your choice was already chosen, there was no change.

[BillyTWildi]

This is not an attack really on the Biblical God. Biblical God is clearly unaware (or only partially aware) of what is going to happen in the future, as shown by the fact that God acts within time, can be convinced to change his mind (Abraham's pleading for Sodom), can be dissapointed etc. This model of God is clearly not Omniscient in the way you have defined it, what is being attacked here is more of a philosopher's or theologian's God, but not the Biblical one.

[QuantumOverlord]

One rebuttal I have heard: Gods Omnipotence and Omniscience do not apply to himself, he is finitely potent with regards to his own actions. The issue with this rebuttal is that if god interacted at all with the universe, his own actions would change the universe which would in itself make some other interactions with the universe impossible. In order to remain omnipotent in this limited way, God could not interact with the universe which of course means there is something he cannot do! :P

[QuantumOverlord]

I like this, very thought provoking. Good arguments for Gnostic Athiesm. Its like a variation of the classical Omnipotence paradox (can god make a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?)