@ajdeblaeij I got a CD from Beck-Technologies that has some formulas for sizing you engine. there are also some chatrooms that you can find that have a lot of people that are experimenting with pulse jet engines.
@ajdeblaeij The thrust is dependant on the size of the engine. The larger the engine the greater the thrust.
All of the dimentions are interrelated. When you increase the size of the combustion chamber the length of the chamber increases by a proportional amount. This increases the diameter of the tailpipe (to allow the gases to excape). The length of the tailpipe increases to tune the whole system. Additional tuning is accomplished by flaring the tailpipe or cutting slots (vee's).
@ajdeblaeij Thrust is dependant on the size of the engine. This engine is only about 30" long. I have plans for a larger model that will produce significantly more thrust.
It would make the engine melt. It needs to be cooled somehow you know. You could attempt to change cooling from air (over the engine) to liquid (pipes, and then a layer of thermal wrap) but ultimately you still need some sort of radiator... the head just has to go somewhere. Ultimately, there's no point in adding complexity to a design praised for its simplicity.
I control the thrust by controlling the amount of propane supplied. At the Idle point (when the engine is rumbling) there is some thrust (about 10 to 15%). As soon as the fuel is increased so the engine starts firing in its "Tuned" mode the thrust is about 50%. By controlling the propane flow I can vary the thrust from 50% to 100%.
The pulse rate is totally dependant on the tail pipe length vs. the cumbustion chamber size. Larger engines pulse slower. Smaller engine are therefore faster (pulsing). The thrust is dependant on the output tube size and the amount of fuel consummed. Again, larger engines will have more thrust and smaller engines will have less thrust - but only because of the size.
smaller engines will always be less efficient because of the effect of the boundary layer will become more pronounced, until aspiration is not even possible. This becomes a bigger problem towards the smaller end of engine size. In large engines, this effect becomes negligible.
Fast pulsation is theoretically more efficient (except for the fact that it takes place in smaller engines), because it creates a higher pressure spike towards the front of the engine, burning that fuel more efficiently.
another cinematographic masterpiece. please produce more of these great art pieces. make sure the camera only shows one awesome angle, and make sure the subject stays put too.
There is no valve in this engine. The "pulse" happens through the "tuning" of the intake and the exhaust tubes (both length and diameter) and their relationship to the size (diameter and volume) of the combustion chamber.
The concept is the same. The differences are: The V1 "Buzz Bomb" was a valved pulse jet engine (Argus pattern) operational time was about 3 hours before the valves needed replacing. My engine is a "Valveless" pulse jet engine and as such has no moving parts.
It's not sold, but I don't want to sell it. You can buy one on Ebay just like I did. If you can't find it, email me rons22@aol(dot)com and I will send you a link.
Nice Thermojet ! I also want to built one ... got the materials at home .... but i have only Butan-gas ....is it possible to run the Thermojet on Butan or is it dangerous ?
so your saying if i built a jet engine and mounted it on a cart with wheels, once the engine starts it would push the cart forward. And anyway where does everyone get the hunk of metal? Do you forge it yourself like smelting? how would i get the metal casted?
so where could i get the metal should i go to a hardware store and ask if they can mold the metal for me? I really would like to get a pulse jet engine, i highly appreciate the fact that ur replying to my comments but how should i get everything and all supplies, because i understand the combustion zone of the jet engine is where all the action takes place.
You should get a set of plans. There are some free plans on the internet (Brck Technologies has a free plan and some design tools to scale it for your needs). A sheet metal shop will sell you metal and could bend it and even weld it if you can't do that yourself. I bought my engine already made (on Ebay). It's a small engine so it wouldn't push a go kart. You would need a minimum of 20 pound thrust and 50 pounds would be better.
If you notice - on my engine there are 2 tubes that go into the intakes. Those are tube that supply the propane - there are jets that that control the flow. I don't have a spark plug - my engine is started by lighting one of the intakes with a propane torch - I have used a match.
my engine is small - 20" long and about 3 pounds of thrust. I read about the Thremojet engine and wanted one. I bought the material for an engine that would be about 2o pounds of thrust. I bought the material at a scrap yard - mostly stainless steel tubing for about $5.00. I will eventually build the engine.
The engine is made of stainless steel, spot welded together. Other engines have been made of sheet steel (non-stainless) but it will discolor more and will rust.
The overall size of the engine is what makes more or less thrust. A larger engine (larger combustion chamber AND tailpipe will produce more thrust). The sizes are relative to each other i.e.: a larger combustion chamber with the same size tailpipe will not nessessarily produce more thrust - in fact may not run as well and maybe not at all. Beck has a formula you can download that will show you what sizes to use based on the thrust you want.
I only measure the pressure of the tank. I have a needle valve that controlls the flow to the #60 jets. The "Sweet Spot" is something I hear. If you listen you can hear it in the running of my engine.
very god sound,like a v8
gabrieleyaris 3 weeks ago in playlist pulse jet engine
valveless pule jet
BabuyKaKiller 3 weeks ago
vlaveless pule rocket
BabuyKaKiller 3 weeks ago
Do it fart? Lol
danne6a 2 months ago
I find it interesting how the top comments on almost every pulsejet video is some sort of fart joke...
Skinavish 6 months ago in playlist pulse jet engine
Just managed to find out what I wanted to know
colinclarke1000 8 months ago
Just out of curiosity...are these controllable once they are running? Ie is it possible to vary the amount of thrust once its ignited?
colinclarke1000 8 months ago
@colinclarke1000 yes it is possible,you just have to vary the amount of fuel sent into the combustion chamber..They have got good throttling range..
neem2345 7 months ago
I do not get with q causes my engine to suck the air into the engine will termojet q may be the type of gas I'm using butane gas of cusine I do qq
have to be blowing air conprimido then it works fine but if he withdraw oar off please email me if you can help I'm from Brazil goiania goias
email salvadouglas@hotmail.com Soon I'll post the video
FVHGHK 8 months ago
it sounds like old soviet truck xD or maybe wankel engine
bonzo9303204406 9 months ago
So if you could find a heatsink good enough as well as the right tank size, could this be, possible, not so much practical, to power a jetpack?
jpdub45 9 months ago
You could build that was 3 or 4 time bigger that would definitely power a bike.
rons22SandA 10 months ago
So this wouldn't even be able to power a bike?
josheskimo 10 months ago
That sounds beautiful. If you have the ears of a gear head it sounds like pure indomitable power.
RahRahRaharu 1 year ago
Powerful but very inefficient!
Thats why they are not widely used.
gorillagirlgorilla 1 year ago
kind of sounds like a v8 at times
dreadnaught6399 1 year ago
U should use THAT instead of a vuvuzela... gee
BufteaGangsters 1 year ago
And what can you do with it? fry your chicken?
Useless shitty item
psycrotica 1 year ago
@psycrotica actually it's pretty useful. you can attach it to a homeade remote controlled plane or car. so no, it's not a useless shitty item
HALOFREAK9715 1 year ago
@psycrotica hilarious!! :)
suitsconverse 3 months ago
if you can take the heat to make a vapor reaction with another technology, the days of vapor engines will come back... i think this is the way.
STEVEmurano 1 year ago
High tech vuvuzela!
missssterr 1 year ago
@ajdeblaeij I got a CD from Beck-Technologies that has some formulas for sizing you engine. there are also some chatrooms that you can find that have a lot of people that are experimenting with pulse jet engines.
rons22SandA 1 year ago
@ajdeblaeij The thrust is dependant on the size of the engine. The larger the engine the greater the thrust.
All of the dimentions are interrelated. When you increase the size of the combustion chamber the length of the chamber increases by a proportional amount. This increases the diameter of the tailpipe (to allow the gases to excape). The length of the tailpipe increases to tune the whole system. Additional tuning is accomplished by flaring the tailpipe or cutting slots (vee's).
rons22SandA 1 year ago
@ajdeblaeij Thrust is dependant on the size of the engine. This engine is only about 30" long. I have plans for a larger model that will produce significantly more thrust.
rons22SandA 1 year ago
The engine is made from Stainless Steel. It's about 20ga.
rons22SandA 1 year ago
what metal did u use
ohadqumpo 1 year ago
''Do Not Touch''
EarthSK8 1 year ago
It will take a much bigger one to move that trailer.
7777dmith7777 1 year ago
Amazing!
I must check them out on ebeegeebay....
I'd love to have a go at making one, but alas I have no ability to work or weld stainless steel :-(
SAHBfan 1 year ago
dang, - what is the thrust
C0ldFart 1 year ago
Thrust is suposed to be 1 3/4 lb. I have a set up to measure it almost ready. I"ll post it when I measure it.
rons22SandA 1 year ago
whats the point of this. are you getting any thrust at all?
jakksincorpse 1 year ago
have you tryed wrapping the jet in themal header tape?
TheBattleWagon 2 years ago
Why would I want to do that? What do you think it would do?
rons22SandA 2 years ago
give it grater thermal effishancy,and cuase you to need less fuel per volume of superheated gasses expelled from it.
TheBattleWagon 2 years ago
@rons22SandA might help with effficiancy less heat loss
alaskaracer 1 year ago
It would make the engine melt. It needs to be cooled somehow you know. You could attempt to change cooling from air (over the engine) to liquid (pipes, and then a layer of thermal wrap) but ultimately you still need some sort of radiator... the head just has to go somewhere. Ultimately, there's no point in adding complexity to a design praised for its simplicity.
superhornet59 1 year ago
@TheBattleWagon i tried this, it works to keep heat in but i think the welds on the tube may be getting too hot. i dont want them to break.
FTWMikeDero 1 year ago
Mmm....How about ceramic coating it, like a header. can't cost to much same idea. higher temp cappasity.
TheBattleWagon 1 year ago
That was cool I am planning making one but I need plans
Ripika1 2 years ago
That sounds like about a e flat
kirkmach32 2 years ago
im gonna try to make 1 of this soon ,and i may put a video to its gonna be cheap tough
blastun 2 years ago
man that is so awesome! i want one so bad!
ostmash 2 years ago
It sounds like a cross between a killer bee, a V8 and someone snoring.
silicon212 2 years ago 7
@silicon212
Best description ever! LOL!
karlzon 2 years ago
is there any point to this or just for shits and giggles?
ninja6kid 2 years ago
they were used on v1s in world war 2
Splooshiba 2 years ago
worlds longest fart
prototype9000 2 years ago 12
By the way, are you controlling the thrust?
or are you just turning down how much fuel it gets?
joytech23 2 years ago
I control the thrust by controlling the amount of propane supplied. At the Idle point (when the engine is rumbling) there is some thrust (about 10 to 15%). As soon as the fuel is increased so the engine starts firing in its "Tuned" mode the thrust is about 50%. By controlling the propane flow I can vary the thrust from 50% to 100%.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
thanks, this is so interesting wow i want to make one!
joytech23 2 years ago
LOL I LOVE IT!!!
Sounds like someone trying to slurp a milkshake
joytech23 2 years ago
sounds like a v7 at low rpm! very responsive!!!! nice job
racelogic 2 years ago
v7?
trepxtrechi 2 years ago
hehe, sorry, v8!
racelogic 2 years ago
how do they work
Thesentinel323 2 years ago
hm.. what does this engine do? what is pulse jet?
wibcom 2 years ago
This is the fastest pulsation ive heard yet. Which is more efficient, fast or slower pulsation?
danielgosson 2 years ago
The pulse rate is totally dependant on the tail pipe length vs. the cumbustion chamber size. Larger engines pulse slower. Smaller engine are therefore faster (pulsing). The thrust is dependant on the output tube size and the amount of fuel consummed. Again, larger engines will have more thrust and smaller engines will have less thrust - but only because of the size.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
smaller engines will always be less efficient because of the effect of the boundary layer will become more pronounced, until aspiration is not even possible. This becomes a bigger problem towards the smaller end of engine size. In large engines, this effect becomes negligible.
Fast pulsation is theoretically more efficient (except for the fact that it takes place in smaller engines), because it creates a higher pressure spike towards the front of the engine, burning that fuel more efficiently.
superhornet59 1 year ago
I LOVE PULSE JETS!!!!!!!!
just saying.
DrumGod22 2 years ago
this sounds like chuck norris farting
Rhodeni 2 years ago 8
chuck norris doesn't fart, because nothing gets away from chuck norris
Ultimagnet 2 years ago 37
xDDD
Fabscher19 2 years ago
best comment ever seen on youtube!
4sineweaver2 2 years ago
i will built a pluse jet!
huskydriver125 2 years ago
Wow..sounds like a piston motor when it "idling" pretty cool
Burntrubber87 2 years ago
thas a alien tenologi ,,lol
vic70cent 2 years ago
if it was then it would be way more efficient
deaftodd 2 years ago
It is a Jet engine. Small but never the less functioning. Could be use to power an R/C airplane.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
It should have between 2 and 5 pounds of thrust. I have a spring scale with a drawer slide roller and will measure it some time.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
what the hell is it then, can you tell me?
355000 2 years ago
What sorta of thrust do ya get out of it? Any idea?
cookman283 2 years ago
is that a new kind of organ? smile
vwchaefer87 2 years ago
About 20 inches long
rons22SandA 2 years ago
im loving the sound of that thing
how big is it?
shloop4 2 years ago
you should try to attatch it to an RC car and see how fast you can go
strongasironman 2 years ago
So what can you use it for?
diramonsky 2 years ago
For the cost it was a great addition to my collection. I have never minded paying someone for their skill and ability.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
why would you buy something like that
joshbobak2 2 years ago
Sounds like a V8 when it idles... 0.o
s04r3r 2 years ago
Thanks
rons22SandA 2 years ago
another cinematographic masterpiece. please produce more of these great art pieces. make sure the camera only shows one awesome angle, and make sure the subject stays put too.
if only all movies were this good.
crabbulator 2 years ago
nice sarcasm , bad grammer," cinematic masterpiece"
ribhkum 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
u r a loser
pimpnprofits 2 years ago
is there an issue with structural soundness because that steel is getting HOT!!!
MHSRULES12 2 years ago
Do you know the pipe dimentions?
gaelen123 2 years ago
I bought it on Ebay. It was about $100 and the fuel system was $15.00 more.
rons22SandA 2 years ago
you lost cash, brougham...
KrazyHorse805 2 years ago
how much did you buy it for?
JohnF30Music 2 years ago
man thats just useless
hhohydrogen 2 years ago 2
at the start it sounds like a huge fart/ truck :P
mountianbiker777 3 years ago
There is no valve in this engine. The "pulse" happens through the "tuning" of the intake and the exhaust tubes (both length and diameter) and their relationship to the size (diameter and volume) of the combustion chamber.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
what does Valveless mean? this pulse jet doesn't have a valve?
SVAFnemesis 3 years ago
valve-less , less a valve!
ribhkum 2 years ago
super tight fart machine
sioc88 3 years ago 8
rofl
tylerakawings 3 years ago
The concept is the same. The differences are: The V1 "Buzz Bomb" was a valved pulse jet engine (Argus pattern) operational time was about 3 hours before the valves needed replacing. My engine is a "Valveless" pulse jet engine and as such has no moving parts.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
Cool jet.
Is this based on the same idea as the V1 rocket from the second world war & What differences are there?? Thanks.
tigerfiresurf 3 years ago
did u get that one off ebay??
rcfreak2493 3 years ago
Sounds like a regular piston engine when off the sweet spot
filtrete867 3 years ago
love the alfoil on the block to stop it from blackening from the heat
juandneen1 3 years ago
It's not sold, but I don't want to sell it. You can buy one on Ebay just like I did. If you can't find it, email me rons22@aol(dot)com and I will send you a link.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
is this sold if aint can i buy it off you
bmxride210 3 years ago
i liked this video :)
i cant watch this video Dp
Girlygirl4110 3 years ago
фигня
NKVSKI 3 years ago
The thrust of my engine is between 2 and 3 pounds.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
about how much thrust do you get from this?
jonathanhucke 3 years ago
how can i find how to make 1, i want to make like 3 and strap them to a rc plane:P
Ross542 3 years ago
It is a small engine. Some have been used to propel R/C airplanes. I just like engines.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
that cool and all but im lost what do you use it for
kodybob 3 years ago
annoying neighbors :)
SupaSexySnake287 3 years ago 2
now i finished it ! my Thermojet is complete !I think i will run my thermojet tomorrow ^^ !
But i'm a little bit afraid of a flashback into the gastank .... do you have any safety installations or is it save ?!
Powniiiiii 3 years ago
put a check valve in the fuel line
chemicallust77 3 years ago
did you use a 20lb tank or 1 pound? Im trying to use a 1 pound but i cant find an adapter that spits out enough gas! torch heads wont do :(
Marco112390 3 years ago
Butane gas is almost the same as propane. I would use it if I had it. The only thing you would have to concerned about is the jet size.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
propane burns faster also i think and alot hotter
Ross542 3 years ago
Nice Thermojet ! I also want to built one ... got the materials at home .... but i have only Butan-gas ....is it possible to run the Thermojet on Butan or is it dangerous ?
Powniiiiii 3 years ago
is it running on propain?
windoes98se 3 years ago
Yes, I have a 5 gallon propane bottle just out of sight.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
i mean of them lol
wizzer1313 3 years ago
you could have a good time pissing off your neighbours with 1 on them :)
wizzer1313 3 years ago
lol am going try make one out of beer cans :P
Keithmintagenew 3 years ago
That is OK, but does it make TOAST?!?!? Mine does...
CyanideXCloud 3 years ago
WOOOO!!!! TOAST!!! I think we all know whos is better :D
cornflaker 3 years ago 2
so if you have a pukle jetengine then how do you get a cart to move with it? Does the engine just push it 0or something?
shinofreak011 3 years ago
The engine has thrust out the tail pipe. It just pushes.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
so your saying if i built a jet engine and mounted it on a cart with wheels, once the engine starts it would push the cart forward. And anyway where does everyone get the hunk of metal? Do you forge it yourself like smelting? how would i get the metal casted?
shinofreak011 3 years ago
Yes. It would push your cart. This engine is built using sheet metal spot welded together. Some of the parts (the intakes) are tubing.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
so where could i get the metal should i go to a hardware store and ask if they can mold the metal for me? I really would like to get a pulse jet engine, i highly appreciate the fact that ur replying to my comments but how should i get everything and all supplies, because i understand the combustion zone of the jet engine is where all the action takes place.
shinofreak011 3 years ago
You should get a set of plans. There are some free plans on the internet (Brck Technologies has a free plan and some design tools to scale it for your needs). A sheet metal shop will sell you metal and could bend it and even weld it if you can't do that yourself. I bought my engine already made (on Ebay). It's a small engine so it wouldn't push a go kart. You would need a minimum of 20 pound thrust and 50 pounds would be better.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
now how exactly could i connect the propane to the combustion chamber? And the spark plug?
shinofreak011 3 years ago
If you notice - on my engine there are 2 tubes that go into the intakes. Those are tube that supply the propane - there are jets that that control the flow. I don't have a spark plug - my engine is started by lighting one of the intakes with a propane torch - I have used a match.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
so why did u buy this off ebay? what are you going to do with this big engine? And how much do you think it would cost to craft this engine?
shinofreak011 3 years ago
my engine is small - 20" long and about 3 pounds of thrust. I read about the Thremojet engine and wanted one. I bought the material for an engine that would be about 2o pounds of thrust. I bought the material at a scrap yard - mostly stainless steel tubing for about $5.00. I will eventually build the engine.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
sounds like a big V8 when it idles.
simplegr33n420 3 years ago
love the starting idleing sound. nice video, doesnt look hard to make either?
Elitehacker07 3 years ago
What kind of metal is that made of ?
battlescared456 3 years ago
The engine is made of stainless steel, spot welded together. Other engines have been made of sheet steel (non-stainless) but it will discolor more and will rust.
rons22SandA 3 years ago
ok thanks
battlescared456 3 years ago
What kind of metal is that made of ?
battlescared456 3 years ago
hook that onto a scooter
piromaniac545 3 years ago
Sounds like a fart LOL
Stephenlee5 3 years ago 15
i want to have one of these in my room in winter ha ha JK too loud
tommycp29 3 years ago
in the beging i thought it was a camaro its like my camaro in the beging
dabuttwipes123 4 years ago
Sounds like a fart jet engine.
RatkoUSA 4 years ago 2
Interesting, is there any thrust?
notogas 4 years ago
I haven't measured it but based on calculations it's between 2 and 3 pounds of thrust
rons22SandA 4 years ago
sounds like a car at idle
ramawson 4 years ago
when the gas is turned a little down like on 1:20 it sounds more like a V1 bomb to me
terminusest0 4 years ago
V1 had a pulsejetengine
HelmerRamone 3 years ago
i know
(my new account, old was terminusest0)
softairsld 3 years ago
rons22SandA, could you buy one for me? how much it cost? please reply
Yunneck 4 years ago
This will be powering our cars in the future!
Or make a nice cigarette lighter for them.
taofledermaus 4 years ago
well if it breaks you can still use it as bong
JOCKATEO 4 years ago 9
this is horrible, it turns to a very noisy horn after a while lol
saleall 4 years ago
Cool...I'd like to point that sucker in the general direction of my neighbor's barking dog. :-)
w5cdt 4 years ago
lmao
bullit123456789 4 years ago
Do you have any idea how much thrust you are producing?
Jangle2007 4 years ago
Some where between 3 and 4 pounds. I am building a device to measure it. I will post it when I get it dome.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
I look forward to reading those posts.
Jangle2007 4 years ago
cool, but when this sad themro I meant it used heat & no fuel :/ oh well.
golem72002 4 years ago
what makes for thrust is it the combustion camber or something more
twojaythomo 4 years ago
The combustion of the fuel (with the air drawn in) blows out the tail pipe (and a little out the intakes) to produce thrust.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
sorry let me ask that question again is a larger combustion chamber make more thrust or is it the size of the tail pipe outlet that makes more thrust
twojaythomo 4 years ago
The overall size of the engine is what makes more or less thrust. A larger engine (larger combustion chamber AND tailpipe will produce more thrust). The sizes are relative to each other i.e.: a larger combustion chamber with the same size tailpipe will not nessessarily produce more thrust - in fact may not run as well and maybe not at all. Beck has a formula you can download that will show you what sizes to use based on the thrust you want.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
where do you get the formula from and by the way i love the sound of this pulse jet it sounds cool when you back the fuel off to a slow pulse
twojaythomo 4 years ago
can you run a liquid fuel like kero in this and if so do you need a pump to pump the fuel through
twojaythomo 4 years ago
I haven't tested it yet but the suction at the intakes should draw any liguid fuel through a venturi once it's started and running on propane.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
It might be o.k. for a gas boiler or something.
Don't pulse jets produce thrust?
oididdidi 4 years ago
They do. This one has between 3 and 4 pounds of thrust.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
I love the idling, im getting mine, the exact same soon, where is the sweet spot? how many PSI?
purkitron 4 years ago
I only measure the pressure of the tank. I have a needle valve that controlls the flow to the #60 jets. The "Sweet Spot" is something I hear. If you listen you can hear it in the running of my engine.
rons22SandA 4 years ago
LOL sounds like a long burp=D then like your tv broke and had the multi color screen.
randomguy9898 4 years ago
Im sure it attracked every horny male goose from miles around
coldasiice 4 years ago
XD Truely.
josh817 4 years ago
looooooool
corri303 4 years ago
Awesome.
fronkenpoop 4 years ago
LAWL
TViRuSX900 4 years ago
I'd hate like hell to be your next door neighbor when you fire that thing up.
tamias6 4 years ago
touch it!
RUsniper 4 years ago 3
I could volunteer if you can treat 3rd degree burns ;P
Conquistador19 4 years ago
nope i cant
RUsniper 4 years ago