Ralph Nader Ad. The Distance. Cake

[karysotic]

AWESOME!!!!

[TashaPapaya]

a big problem is that people don't inform themselves of all the possibilities out there.

They just look at McCain or Obama without seeing that there's Nader out there too.

[nowellian]

Impeach Bush/Cheney!

Why did the democrats take impeachment off the table?

[nowellian]

Obama and Clinton are such spoilers. If they would just drop out we would have a great president, Ralph Nader!

Nader could beat McCain, but can Clinton or Obama? I doubt it.

Go on and vote for a corporate approved candidate and feel good about it if you can. I just don't think I can do it anymore!

I think democrats and republicans are like good cop bad cop, they are working together to usurp the peoples power to vote for candidates we like. They are all corporatists.

Vote Nader!

[MacManiac]

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot: VOTE RON PAUL IN 2008!

;)

[MacManiac]

Nader was an instrumental flank tactic in the Bush takeover 2000. His enthusiastic last-minute campaigning in a state where he had no hope of making a showing helped to winnow the margin between Bush and Gore down to few enough votes so that Bush could claim victory one way or another. He says all the right things, but don't be fooled! He's a ringer for the right wing/neocon/NWO fascists and will do anything for money.

[oharawinter]

bla bla bla...

proofs?

re: the usual scapegoating: if you have a problem with the 200 elections, then you should criticize the election system, not the people running for president, and certainly not a specific candidate... There were 6 other candidates in Florida who got more than the 568 needed by Gore to win. But somehow Nader's "more" responsible? Makes sense...

[MacManiac]

Well, why did Ralph make his last-ditch effort in Florida? Do you think that he really thought he was going to win the state and enough other states to actually take the presidency?

[oharawinter]

I certainly wish he did.

Still waiting for your proofs...

[MacManiac]

Hahahahahaha....enjoy your wait. Why would I waste my time? You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. Words never prove anything, they simply communicate ideas. Obviously mine threaten you. Sorry about that, I wasn't trying to kick your cage. Continue your rant if you like. Just remember, getting into an argument on the internet is like running a race in the special olympics...

[oharawinter]

"He's a ringer for the right wing/neocon/NWO fascists " is not an "opinion." It's either a fact or false accusations (aka. "lies"). Since you don't have any proofs, it's pretty safe to assume it's the later.

You might want to look up the word "rant" in a dictionary, you will discover that in fact, the only one ranting here is you (look up "threaten" too, just in case).

You might also want to consider letting go of the condescending overtones since you're the one who started this argument...

[MacManiac]

Whatever. Such a thing is not provable, nor is it disprovable, unless you claim to know him intimately. As a public figure, his reasons for doing things are private, but his doings are public, which leads to ppl having opinions about them. I feel his entry in a presidential race means an advantage to the right wing, because it splits the left & moderate vote. See who won the elections he's run in. He never forms a coalition to produce victory, always divides the vote for a progressive loss.

[MacManiac]

I didn't start an argument, I stated an opinion. U told me how I should think. That's fine. U R ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION.

Then I asked u a question, which u evaded, & demanded my "proofs" like I'm your schoolboy, which is pretty laughable. But I have ?s, and

Ralph being a spoiler is not a new idea. Y did M Moore & B Maher beg Nader not to run in 2004 on national TV? Can U say Fla 2K? 6 other candidates ran in 2000 in Fla, but what name recognition did they have? Do you even know their names?

[MacManiac]

BTW, you might want to listen to the lyrics of this video closely. They describe a man who keeps running the race long after it's over, even after the stands are emptied, on an empty tank of gas. Why do you think they characterize Ralph in that way, oharawinter? Is this video really pro-Ralph, or is it parody?

[HornPlayer983]

Gee it couldn't be the fact that the companies who own the voting machines and count the votes are private companies owned by who... oh yeah Republicans...

[danthro]

great video! Nader 2008!

[allisonmac257]

Very cool video bro.

[thankgodcpa]

How cool of you! I understand the effort involved. Thank you and keep it going. Well done....

[burningice17]

nice video