@133shinchan The only compression you can get while the exhaust port is open is caused by the pressure wave that can come back from the exhaust. This is limited however to specific rpm's
It does. A two stoke engine actually requires a lot of backpressure from the exhaust to run at peak performance. If the pressure in the exhaust is low then the fresh Air fuel mixture excapes into the exhaust quite easily. When it has backpressure it holds back the fresh air fuel mixture compressing it adding more volume of mix per stroke
but when the burned gas escape into the exhaust port there comes new air in the intake bud than you have a mixture out of burned air and new air so not 100% new
when its posseble to create somthing that allows real 100% new feul air mix into the chamer does it provide more power than? or is it not so important i hope my q is understandble xD
I always wondered why there isn't a sliding valve where the exaust port is to prevent fuel/oil/air mixture from excaping... I mean, the sliding valve can be powered directly by the crankshaft...
@legox50 Honda tried it with the EXP-2 Dakar bike. I think it worked great. DI works even better, injecting the fuel after the exhaust port is closed. But a combination of the two? Could work best and eliminate the need for an expansion chamber.
Direct-injected two-strokes don't have that particular disadvantage. However, the model they showed in their little diagram wasn't injected. The most common cure to the problem to an expansion chamber, which sends a resonance wave back toward the engine to cram that lost air-fuel mixture back into the engine if the engine is at the proper RPM for the chamber.
Direct-injection, as well as some new valve Boyesen has developed, are working to fix the problem, though.
very good explanation you made (I was also laughing on the scavening wave faithfully stopping at the exhaust port), but as you said there are certain ways...
In reality the high performance 2 stroke engines turns this "disadvantage" in combination with the expans.chamber into an advantage, the reso.exhaust works like a charger but without moving parts.- What is this Boyesen valve, a kind of ex. port timing valve?, - never heard of it.
@woopass250 That's because if they are still making them they are now direct injection. Only air with no fuel mixed in passes out the exhaust port. With direct injection they are now cleaner(especially in Nox emissions) than four strokes with the same power.
@woopass250 good point, the so known "scavenge loss"
vzlan999 4 weeks ago
so what stops the mixture from escaping out the exhaust port when the piston begins to compress?
partyguy9 1 month ago
its okei, i didnt want to see the rest of te video anyway
warius100 2 months ago
why is there two horses fucking in the related videos?
justinroxxxohyeah 3 months ago
@justinroxxxohyeah well, the videos that come up are based off of your viewing history, so you tell us why???
Ieatpeople2 1 day ago
Also love how it looks like it's compressing the mixture with an open exhaust port. Fail.
WaterFall1973 5 months ago
@WaterFall1973 it's like that on a 2 stroke engine.....
133shinchan 2 months ago
@133shinchan The only compression you can get while the exhaust port is open is caused by the pressure wave that can come back from the exhaust. This is limited however to specific rpm's
WaterFall1973 1 month ago
este es el video mas explicativo que vi hasta ahora, muchisimas gracias
sacadito 9 months ago
2 stroke is faster
bmxty82 1 year ago
e-tecs top two strokes and mercury makes the top 4 strokes...yahama is a joke.
kddcc 1 year ago
how can the compressed fuel mixture don't escape true the exhaust?
soldierholland 1 year ago
@soldierholland I think a bit of it does.... i am guessing though...
SecondPIayer 1 year ago
@soldierholland some does
1850KAMZ9 1 year ago
@soldierholland it does
christosGTAIV 1 year ago
@soldierholland
It does. A two stoke engine actually requires a lot of backpressure from the exhaust to run at peak performance. If the pressure in the exhaust is low then the fresh Air fuel mixture excapes into the exhaust quite easily. When it has backpressure it holds back the fresh air fuel mixture compressing it adding more volume of mix per stroke
btownmxer 1 year ago
but when the burned gas escape into the exhaust port there comes new air in the intake bud than you have a mixture out of burned air and new air so not 100% new
when its posseble to create somthing that allows real 100% new feul air mix into the chamer does it provide more power than? or is it not so important i hope my q is understandble xD
lands3r 1 year ago
I always wondered why there isn't a sliding valve where the exaust port is to prevent fuel/oil/air mixture from excaping... I mean, the sliding valve can be powered directly by the crankshaft...
legox50 1 year ago
@legox50 Honda tried it with the EXP-2 Dakar bike. I think it worked great. DI works even better, injecting the fuel after the exhaust port is closed. But a combination of the two? Could work best and eliminate the need for an expansion chamber.
TheOfficialKC 1 year ago
AHA! So reed valves are 'sucked' open! And air compressed closed! I always wondered how they worked on their own! Thanks uploader. Great video!
MKUltraProject 1 year ago
this video doesnt show the air fuel mix lost out the exhaust port when the pistons coming up
woopass250 2 years ago 46
@woopass250
Direct-injected two-strokes don't have that particular disadvantage. However, the model they showed in their little diagram wasn't injected. The most common cure to the problem to an expansion chamber, which sends a resonance wave back toward the engine to cram that lost air-fuel mixture back into the engine if the engine is at the proper RPM for the chamber.
Direct-injection, as well as some new valve Boyesen has developed, are working to fix the problem, though.
JETZcorp 1 year ago
@JETZcorp
very good explanation you made (I was also laughing on the scavening wave faithfully stopping at the exhaust port), but as you said there are certain ways...
In reality the high performance 2 stroke engines turns this "disadvantage" in combination with the expans.chamber into an advantage, the reso.exhaust works like a charger but without moving parts.- What is this Boyesen valve, a kind of ex. port timing valve?, - never heard of it.
XELA2T 1 year ago
@XELA2T For more information on the Boyesen thing, type "Boyesen Exhaust Valve" into Google and click the first link.
JETZcorp 1 year ago
@woopass250 for this reason a good 2T engine have an expansion exhaust
GeneraleRamon 1 year ago 14
@GeneraleRamon its called a power valve
burmkilla 1 year ago
@GeneraleRamon The expansion exhaust will only bounce back gasses @ the correct time when the rpm is right. So it doesn't solve the blowback.
WaterFall1973 5 months ago
@woopass250 That's because if they are still making them they are now direct injection. Only air with no fuel mixed in passes out the exhaust port. With direct injection they are now cleaner(especially in Nox emissions) than four strokes with the same power.
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jakethepeg1066 2 years ago
what do u mean ur bike goes backwards
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