The funniest part of this whole video is that this kid has probably lived in his parents' mansion most of his life, feeling he's entitled to whatever the fuck he wants. Hence, why he's able to spend so much time protesting, and not enough time working. Or if he's unemployed, looking for a job. These people crack me up. Quit bitching and take some action. Protests have never done SHIT. The greedy will still be greedy and the evil will still be evil. No matter what.
@chosentonessournotes All of you are the same! You think every person there has the same story because you're so fucking narrow-minded. Check your sources, do your own research. These people are like you and me. Sure, there are a couple rich kids, but there are still many, many different types of people. And protests have never done shit? Look at Egypt and the overthrow of Mubarak's regime. Or anywhere. The longest journey starts with a single step. This is that step. Quit bitching. Take action.
@SayNoToHipsters lol, this is too funny. Anyone that has time to camp out at Occupy Wallstreet for months on end must have no career-related responsibilities, therefore, they have no place to be "protesting" because they clearly have no issues with money. I am having a tough time with the job market, but currently Uncle Sam isn't trying to pinch my last couple of pennies, so, yeah. This kid? He is the 1%.
@chosentonessournotes I guess u go home every night and get a good brainwashing session in with Fox or CNN. Looks like this kid know more than u ever will.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat The Law
@chosentonessournotes "Money is the most important subject intellectual persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it is widely understood and its defects remedied very soon." Robert H. Hemphill, former credit manager, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
@chosentonessournotes And I must know more than you, because I retired comfortably off at 41. But then I took the trouble to learn about money and how the system works. I am with the "hipster"/
This guy is good .. and you are dummasses! The Fed is the worse that ever happened to the American people. Not only to Americans .. to the whole world! He is so right.
I have seen a lot of Jerks comments in her .. Shows me (European) how dumm most of you peopel in the states are. The CIA kills your people (9/11) and the truly responsible people are still free!! Instead you believe that crap of OSAMA-Story ... gosh!
Hearing this young guy changed my mind coz i though ALLLL of you are dumm!
@websibaer Okay, no offense Mr. High And Mighty, but when you can't even fucking spell DUMB, don't generalize an entire nation as BEING dumb. It makes you seem like an immature, illiterate piece of garbage. How are you so sure that the CIA was responsible for 9/11? Or ANYTHING regarding our country for that matter? How about you go back to sucking your Queen's dick and lay off us Americans for once.
@websibaer Why the fuck is this fool being up-voted. You ignorant xenophobic fool you cant even spell correctly. Most of the ignorant views expressed on this page are European. Shows just how out of touch you people are if you constantly blame everything on Americans. Hell you can't even hand out a compliment to this young man without insulting his countrymen on the side. YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME FUCKING SICK
@LloydChristmas777 Why does everyone see Ron Paul as some kind of faux-savior when in reality he's just as money grubbing, sniveling, and greedy as the rest of them? You guys really need to take off your rose tinted shades because even if he WERE this country's best hope, he's certainly not getting elected. I can't tell you how many people I met during the last election who voted for Obama, but had no idea why. MANY people said it was because they wanted a black president.
@chosentonessournotes, He's largely detached from corporations. He's against printing money. He's against spending trillions on war. He's against having military bases all over the world bringing tax payers to their knees. He's against picking fights with other countries simply for profit. He wants to take care of his own country instead of sticking his nose in other people's business. He's not the savior; the people are. It's not cool to vote Ron Paul as you assume.
@LloydChristmas777 Isnt it amazing Obama can attack Libya without provocation or Congressional approval which violates the wars pact act & Constitution & our media says nothing. He should be impeached not be allowed to run again!
If Obama gets elected again this country is finished & I am not excited by the Republican choices either other then Paul, I like honesty!
@chosentonessournotes America stopped voting on merit a long time ago you make a good point or he would have won in 2008. The people who vote for Ron Paul are typically people who are constitutionalists with a strong understanding of lessons from history. Unfortunately most Americans have been dumbed down by media & the idea there is a difference in our 2 party system when in reality they just empower eachother to do the same shit. Ron Paul is the only honest guy running!
@LloydChristmas777 While a person on their own is smart, people as a group are mindless drones who feed into popular culture and whatever is hip at the moment. Just look at the top 40 charts some time, and you'll see what I mean. Talentless pieces of dogshit like LMFAO and Lady Gaga dominate. Why? Just like with politics, the masses are going to vote for whoever seems, "coolest." Not for who has the best ideals. But Ron Paul... A savior he is not.
No donations to any campaign that exceed $10 from any individual, no more union, corporate or other special interest allowed to donate "AKA buy politicians."
@joe035, Right on for all points and other points. Among other things, the donation policies should have a major revision. For sure, we should consider the idea of no organization able to donate a cent.
How do we get these war profiting goons out of politics? Not sure if voting will get it done. The masses are still slaves to the media and don't even think. The soldiers and police officers should just refuse to do unjust work. Easier said than done I know.
@LloydChristmas777 It aint much to take comfort in Loyd but at least people like us believe in guns & they dont. You can teach a man to fish so he can eat for a lifetime or give a man a fish & buy a vote for a progressive.
Sounds like a lot of "Idealism" and very little "Realism". And I thought generation "X" was full of entitlement. Spend all that energy that you're using to bitch about the system to learn how to work within that system. Looks like a terrorist in the making to me. BTW I run my own small business that survived the recession not by bailouts or bitching about bailouts but by hard, smart business decisions. The only smart thing the young man said was to "Get corporations out of politics".
Between 1935 and 1943 the Works Progress Administration created JOBS FOR OVER 7 MILLION PREVIOUSLY UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS that created infrastructure and helped us out of the depression.
WE NEED A WPA STYLE JOBS PROGRAM NOW !
Put America back to work.
Any politician who says the government should not hire workers can follow their own idealogy, step down, and GIVE THEIR JOB TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT.
@Lllburns temporary government created jobs funded by taxes is NOT the solution. The creation of the 3 letter programs (WPA, CCC, etc) and the new deal is one of the big reasons we are in the trouble we are in.
EL problema general es que se salio del circulo la relación trabajo o producto y dinero,,,, se necesita un nuevo orden económico, el sistema económico para la forma actual de manejar recursos no renovables y recursos intelectuales es totalmente desfasada.
"when i fuck up who bailes me out?, why should goldman sachs get bailed?".... well simple if you fuck up there is no need to bail out because you wont completly fuck the economy up if we ignore you. this couldnt be said for the banks that were bailed......
I agree with what he said, but not Ron Paul's other libertarian ideas, we need a community. The US is nothing without a community with the biggest middle class.
@maloso305 What's wrong with Paul's 'other' libertarian ideas? Shouldn't the government stay out of our personal and economic affairs so long as someone isn't being hurt by another's negligence or recklessness? Much evidence exists that wherever people are free, they are also the most prosperous; and vice-verse. What do mean by 'community'? I think libertarians are probably amongst the most community minded of all people.
@thespeez libertarian is a negation of community, is the idolatry of the individual and selfishness, there is no community for them, what we are living right now is the wet dream of libertarians, every one with money and power getting away with "murder" the purpose of government is to organize and regulate society, libertarians do not believe in "society"
@maloso305 Nothing could be farther from the truth! Libertarians advocate a TRUE free market which we do NOT have now and never really had except for MAYBE in the early days of this country after its establishment, and even then there were issues! When corporations lobby the gov't 2 protect their sorry asses, that is not an example of a true free market, but is an example of CORPORATE WELFARE which is the antithesis of the free market. big business and big gov't go hand in hand!(2 p2)
(p2) In a TRUE free market, you are more likely to have a state of pure competition where each business in a given industry competes with the other. These companies do not lobby their favorite politicians so that they can have an unfair edge in the industry. Now, in the 1920s, we didn't have a true free market by any means. Coolidge was a strong sympathizer of corporate welfare. Give me time and I should be able to come up with articles which back my claims up. (2 p3, please)
(p3) As U may know, libertarians oppose the war on drugs. When pharmaceutical, oil, chemical & other industries lobby the government 2 protect their interests, how can U or anyone else claim that this is a function of the free market? Oh, and about community? We libertarians want 2 see small business prevail! People should B allowed 2 do business with a local merchant. It shouldn't be subject 2 undue regulations & rules which are passed by the big guys & keep competition @ bay! (2 p4)
(p4) You claim that most libertarians are rich and while many are, an equal or even greater number are middle class or lower including myself. Big business would want nothing to do with us! BTW Reagan was NO libertarian either! In fact, corporate welfare INCREASED during his reign!
@thespeez I never said they are all rich but I bet they wish to be or "serve" some "job creator", most are one issue thinkers and cheerleaders of capital, money is not all there is...you can keep complaining how this is not a perfect libertarian result but this is (what is going on today) is what you advocated for. you are an extremist.
@thespeez Competition implies to gain advantage over your competition, and that is what corporations have been doing from the beginning, the only force that could keep them in line would be an independent strong government and regulations protect society's interests and small business. Libertarians are selfish small mind greedy people.
@thespeez Like I said you can not define the world in market terms, As you put it "competition""free market""small government" the logical consequence of these is a winner takes all with no regulation, the result of competition without regulation is exactly what we have now. I'm sorry but you are blind to many other factors concentrating only in the monetary parts of society. Ayn Rand was just a bitter old woman with a revenge wish. Libertarians are missing the whole picture.
@maloso305 LOL Okay coming from a guy who doesn't own or run a biz & rejects even the most obvious principles.
Again you claimed : you don't create demand for your product, you create a product because there is a market for it.
The billions spent on brand building & marketing trumps your idea if you create it people will buy it! There was NO MARKET for the pet rock, but the one the owner created!
You probably supported Obama's jobs bill & stimulus too, right?
@joe035 The pet rock is an excellent example of the stupidity of your thinking, The same people that falls for the kind of ideas you do, would fall for the pet rock, and it say a lot about where your mind is...fooling cheating and stealing is where capitalist have their thoughts...profiteering con artists.
@maloso305 Malso you benefit personally because of Capitalism. The guy who created the pet rock created jobs & a demand for a rock with plastic eyeballs & yarn hair! The people who bought the rock were not forced too! He made millions & created jobs for people like you. He made his life & those who didn't have a job better!
So you think our government is so much more ethical then us job creating capitalists?? LOL
@thespeez what you are saying sound like the communists when they complaint that the current examples were not pure. No extreme will ever work, like everything in the universe there have to be a "balance" what we are living today is the logical consequence of basing the world in monetary terms, we are not a "market" we live in societies and we have many obligations for the whole, we do not live in segregated agricultural towns what the libertarians propose is taking us to the stone age
@thespeez there is no evidence for what you proposed on the contrary, when you let capital grow unchecked is when everything go to shit like in 1029 and now...There is no absolute freedom some refer to economic freedom other are satisfied with personal freedom and others religious freedom... is an opium dream from stupid minds that do not learn from history.
@MrD0m1n4t10n everyone's freedom end where others start, that is why we need laws and consequently a impartial government to protect everyone's rights, liberty is limited by the size of populations the more confine the space becomes your freedoms are more limited, we all deserve a piece of freedom.
@maloso305 That is true, but i still don't get why some people(the 1%) make the others suffer for there own well being, while they already have enough..
@MrD0m1n4t10n that is exactly what I'm saying, there is nothing more unfair than having a class of people owning so much when the rest own so little,The worst part is that they own the microphone and make it look like they have the right to do this and the rest of people a lazy and they are hard workers when there is nothing father from the truth. this is the consequence of Regan's "supply side economics"
@MrD0m1n4t10n This is why we need to rescind corporate welfare! If these execs get their sorry asses into hock, they should have to pay out of their company's earnings or their own damned pockets whom they screwed over! If that means selling their mansion or Rolls or Van Gogh, too friggin' bad!
@MrD0m1n4t10n I'm afraid we are so far gone that it would take something extreme to change the situation, "corporate welfare" is capitalism. Competition without regulation is going to produce a winner take's all and concentration of capital like we see today. this capitalists do not produce anything that lots of small business couldn't do.
@aCorpseonthePiano sorry you are wrong, capitalism is investment of capital for profit, a small business is investment of your labor to make a living, there is a big difference.A small business owner work next to their employees..
@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
@maloso305 IF you think it's bad now, if we get a soclist regime here, it will only get worse. Worse yet, you may have little say in matters! In such a society, you must get government permission to do just about anything. Now, I totally agree with you on your analysis of both the 'left' and 'right'.
@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
@maloso305 What's wrong with Paul's 'other' libertarian ideas? Shouldn't the government stay out of our personal and economic affairs so long as someone isn't being hurt by another's negligence or recklessness? Much evidence exists that wherever people are free, they are also the most prosperous; and vice-verse. What do mean by 'community'? I think libertarians are probably amongst the most community minded of all people.
For fuck sakes vote for Ron Paul because Kennedy was US' last president and a good majority of Americans are completely blind and only voted for Obama because HES BLACK! OOO our first black president lets make this happen thats all we care about!
@JamesonLB Ron Paul is a decrepit old fool from the same party the destroyed the US with "supply side economics" and deregulation The same party that is owned by money and caused the other party to do the same in order to "compete".
Another Ron Paul youth awakened by the mess you fucking RINO & Progressive assholes have created for him!
Prediction:
2012 Rommney gets nomination thanks to our corporate owned media to lose to Obama who only wins because Gary Johnson's third party takes Conservative, Independant & Libertarian votes leaving you RINO's with Obama for 4 more years!
Also, Wall Street doesn't know when the market is going to go up or down... and the stock markets specifically don't have all that much to do with people if they don't own stock... other securities, yes... but not really common stock... also, George Soros has actually given money to the OWS movement... I'm voting for Mitt Romney, personally... Ron Paul is a good guy and has some great ideas... but some of his policies are kind of bad ideas... Mitt Romney 2012.
@guydudeasian Look how Unions decide elections in states, there must be a counter or no special interest money at all. We all should be reduced to maximum donation of $5 per US citizen for any candidiate or issue eliminate all union & corporate money donations all together.
@joe035 That still doesn't address the problem that Romney thinks corporations should have unlimited influence in elections. This is why publicly financed elections are the only answer to the problem. Compared to the amount of money we spend on military and Medicare/Medicaid, it'd be a drop in the bucket in exchange for candidates that must run on message rather than ads and money.
@joe035 is hard to believe someone still blame unions and progressives for this mess, you have to be a mayor fuck up to think that "supply side economics" and deregulation are not the reason everything when to shit in the US and around the globe. You are delusional.
@maloso305 No the blame doesn't lie solely on Progressives though they advocate the same corporate socialism that the RINO's have. Bush started the bailouts that Obama approved & then extended. Why is govt giving tax money to Soros to drill for oil off Brazils coast? When will we get the 25 BILLION back from GM, who empowered Obama to give 500 MILLION to Solyndra & why shouldnt a biz risk their own money? Why did I as as small biz owner write the Feds a check while GE paid nothing??
@joe035 I'm not going to defend Obama or corporation because the problem is the extreme turn of the country to the right and unapologetic capitalism, just as communism capitalism is no the answer, If we were "intelligent" we would be looking for the middle, ideas from both extremes and common sense, balance and sustainability is going o come the day money gets out of politics. cronyism or any other kind of capitalism still capitalism .
@maloso305 No bailing out douche bags like Goldman Sachs, or giving our tax money to corporate friends who help you out at campaign time has nothing to do with Capitalism.
Tax Payers taking ownership of GM instead of letting it reorganize under bankruptcy laws is not Capitalism. Capitalism does not exist in a true form in the US any longer as the govt picks the winners & losers according to their agendas! Successful biz are over taxed & regulated, while inept biz is bailed out & stimulated.
@joe035 Make no mistake this is the "small government" conservatives, libertarians and neo conservatives have been working for at least 30 years, you are about to "drown government in bath water"
@maloso305 Govt made this mess! Bill Clinton & a BIPARTRISAN Congress repealed Glass Steagull allowing these unqualified loans to happen! Frank Dodd bill did not include Fannie or Freddie in the reform bill that replaced steagull & they were the LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS!
16 TRILLION DEBT By end of this year, 120 TRILLION in UNFUNDED liabilities was ENTIRELY CREATED BY govt! Govt involvement in corporate affairs "Corporate Socialism" is why this country is in trouble not advocating fiscal sanity!
@joe035 The government you are referring to is the one lobbying, campaign financing and now "citizens united" created. again , you can't be conservative and libertarian and complaint about what you help create. corporate taking from government is the logical result of the prostitution of government by money, now they are getting the fruit of their investment and this is capitalism going to their intended objective.
@maloso305 Bill Clinton & Obama are both DEMOCRATS not conservatives or Libertarians! Bill Clinton repealed glass steagull & advocated for these no proof of income poor credit history no down laons!!! Obama approved the Bush bailouts & extended them. This is an establishment bhig government problem which encompasses both parties. Libertarians advocate the govt exist within a budget & the paying down of our debt, Progressives have CREATED IT with entitlements & Conservatives with war!
@joe035 Regan, Bush and Bush Jr. with their idealism and Clinton and Obama corrupted by money produces by the capitalism embolden by supply side economics, you can not pick and choose what this "capitalism" have created . no matter what you call it is capitalism of the last 30yrs that created this situation. progressives have not been in power for the last 30yrs look at the facts...
@maloso305 Pres. Wilson allowed the creation of the Federal Reserve, he was a Progressive! Sen Rockefeller is a progressive & OWNS part of the Federal Reserve along with his Progressive friends the Rothchilds. Soros takes tax money from Obama to drill oil he also calls himself a progressive. You might truly be a progressive but these establishment hacks are destroying us from within.
You cannot define people by the ideology they claim to be part of, Capitalism works, corporate socialism doesnt!
@joe035 I said from the beginning we should look for a middle and adopt the good ideas from both sides, no extreme is going to get us out of this one, do not believe the easy answers, there is non, but I think is a big mistake to take away the safety net from the equation, we live in big cities and we need to make sure to take care of the people that can't for them selves,
@joe035 First of all government was never about charity, there are imperfections in the system and there are sections of population that have no access to a jobs or a way to earn a living for many reasons, If you are so insensitive to how many people are not able or have the ability to compete you are out of touch. Is the simplicity of the right to to indoctrinate people like you what amaze me. Capitalism 101 tells you that you find a need and fulfill it, there is no "job creation"
@maloso305 Section 8 housing, WICK, food stamps, are all govt run charities!! Explain how these are not charitable?? SSI, Medicaire, prescription drugs are all broke because they pay out more then what they bring in, that is Govt run CHARITY! You personally owe over 1 million in UNFUNDED obligations to these programs!
Malso I found a niche & built my biz from savings! We manufacture 100% of our products in USA. I took risk & CREATED jobs for american workers instead of sending them overseas!
@joe035 Profit is made from capital if your are a small business owner you put labor and you get a paycheck if there is anything extra may be consider profit until you get unexpected expenses if you get any thing is a fact of life, you can not calculate profit until you reach a sales volume to allow you to pay yourself materials labor and all expenses, that is business 101.and your employees are at the end part of a chain that produce your customers, you did not created any jobs is necessity.
@maloso305 It would seem you know somebody who runs a small business & gets by?
Job creation was a biproduct of my desire to make money. If I didn't take risk & create a demand for my product there would be no jobs to be had & no profit for me.
I appreciate your point there are many small business owners who are just getting by.
@joe035 :0) I never said it is a small paycheck.... as a owner you decide how much to pay your self and make sure you produce enough, and if you invest any money your self you pay yourself back with interest but as a owner investor you create your own job and the labor you require is like any other expense you play by the rules, pay your taxes, insurance and licenses and don't cut corners other wise you are not doing business you are sheeting,
@joe035 If this assholes with the money (job creators) don't invest in it, there would be thousands of small business that will, the stupidity of that title ("job creators") is only believable by people with simple minds. like that is only the stupid that would follow this assholes profiteers good for nothing, all you have to do is the kinds of mistakes they did with the mortgage fiasco. All they know what to do is take advantage of the people that really are able to create something.
@maloso305 I took the risk in starting my biz because I saw potential of creating a profit. I could easily have gone overseas for 25 cent labor in many cases manufacturers have too! Fortunately our product lines are not commodity driven so I can afford to hire people here. Americans all want to make a lot of money & buy cheap for the most part.
The mortgage fiasco happened because Bill Clinton & a Bipartisan Congress advocated policy everyone deserves a home regardless if they can pay for it!
@joe035 that is bull, this people corrupted the system so homes would be over priced and pressured the rating agency to rate AAA the securitized mortgages on top of that they offered mortgages with easy approvals and unchecked incomes, you are so blind.
And American have to make lots of money because they live in America and the cheap crap they consume is because importation is open with no taxes. No one live in vacuum like the libertarians wish,
@maloso305 Malso this was the result of Clinton a PROGRESSIVE & a BIPARTISAN Congress repealing glass steagull! It was repealed so Clionton could accomadate people who were not credit worthy to buy homes. this is irrefutable & easily confirmed on line. I am against NAFTA it is a bad deal for everyone! I compete against China & India as they steal our designs & produce them cheap to sell to our customers here! I still manage to export some products
@maloso305 Some of what we do is just assembly work & some is skilled labor. I choose to make my product here because I CAN as it is a high end product.
On one hand you condem the Federal Reserve & the other you embrace Progressivism. No ideology has played a greater role in its creation & continued existance then Progressives!
The Left wants the govt to take care of everyone, though it is going broke & the Right wants to continue to police the world & fight wars with no govt to overthrow!
@joe035 Ok I had no hopes of changing your mind, We are in different worlds, some of the points we coincide on we do for different reasons, and you are talking pass my points. just be careful that the "class" that you are a fan of will not consider you as equal, right now being wealthy is no what used to be...have a nice life and enjoy your wealth while it last. One more thing a "small business is not aim to make a profit" is to make a living profit is coincidental Adios
@maloso305 I never talked by any of your points; I agreed with some of them. I referenced you govt ran charities that you refused to acknowledge & pointed out that your advocation for the Progressives & condemnation of Conservatives & Libertarians is wrong . You cant blame one without acknowledging the role Progressives played in the calamity we now face. You are entitled to your opinion but not your facts. You cant make a living without a profit & no one in biz just wants to get by!
@joe035 Changing the name of capitalism is not going to excuse it, accept that this is the end result of concentrating capital in fewer hands. Right now is hard for any small business to start without investment capital, they take away any control you may have and if your not careful you will loose it. Small business are in danger with all this investment capital looking for a bigger return than the current interest rate.Thank to Regan. Progressive ideology have nothing to do with that.
@maloso305 Having a small S-corp & writing a check to both the Feds & State every year unlike GE or friends of our Ruling Elite I can tell you the banks are not lending money because there is no clarity if our economy will truly recover. Obama has added 5 TRILLION to our debt that is a future tax & taxes impede job creation! Consumer confidence needs to be restored & you don't do that by creating future taxes! I dont know why you think your a progressive as many of them made this mess.
@joe035 Sorry you are wrong and illogical how is it that you blame SS and medicaid for this mess and dismiss the tax breaks, the wars, prescription drugs, open borders for imported good, loop holes for corporation lobbying, deregulation and the fact that before the last Bush administration there was a budget surplus sorry but you delusional look at some history and facts if you have still some brain left...I'm done trying to explain, you are proposing a country plutocracy...
@joe035 the debt will never be payed back is not possible, is an illusion that there ever will be a debt free US unless they get read of the fed. the most we can hope for is a balanced budget. We give the fed the right to create money out of thin air and charge us interest on it.
@maloso305 I agree 100! Sadly we own the reserve currency to the world our government screwed everyone. All Bankers & politicians who have played a part in the destruction of our dollar should be put on trial for treason!
We have yet to see the collapse but it is inevitable as this is what it would seem the establishment govt wants as no one could be as naive as the President & Congress we have now who keep spending.
@joe035 Most of the blame should be at the feet of the "conservative party" progressives are complicit and corrupted by money, The real tragedy that the propaganda from the right with very effective but childish arguments managed to corrupt American's by muddying the arguments and blaming progressives for every problem in this country and inserting religion in the discussions. let me remain you that religion was one of the reasons why Europeans fled to America.
@maloso305 The conservative party is irrelevant ONLY those who call themselves Democrats or Republicans get voted into office. I just gave you examples of politicians who call themselves progressives one of which WILSON allowed the creation of the Federal Reserve. Teddy Roosevelt was considered a Progressive but aligned himself to the Republican party. Look up the definition of Libertarian & you will see they are more in line with classic liberals rather then the contemporary ones today.
@joe035 You've raised some fantastic points here! Being a business owner you know all too much how well the gov't tries to impose so much red tape. Moreover, much of this (I'll assume) can be traced directly to how much corporate welfare is a factor.
@thatguynamedbrent the GOP are to blame for all the problems we are facing today with "supply side economics", deregulation, citizens united corporation citizenship and stupid people that are easily dissuaded by propaganda from the right and giving away heir right and devaluing their own labor, and creating a upper class of supper rich that have no shame when they call you lazy for not being rich, thinking that you are unemployed be cause is something wrong with you
The US produces a lot more than what this gentleman says... the banks didn't ask for a bailout... commodity backed currencies (the gold standard) are obsolete... big corporations aren't necessarily a bad thing... lobbyists aren't necessarily a bad thing... and military spending certainly isn't a bad thing... I do agree that the government should be smaller, more power to the states, bring more production to America. This gentleman seems passionate about his cause... but he is a bit misinformed..
@thatguynamedbrent Excessive military spending on endless wars and stationing in other countries is a bad thing. Corporations that evade taxes through many loopholes that lobbyists are hired to put into legislation is a bad thing. The banks DID ask for a bailout, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase for example.
@tycore4sure Keep trying the GOP like it has not been try enough, what make you think they have any interest in in changing their curse, or you like supply side economics?
Honestly, I wouldn't call this this amazing... We need 21st century solutions that focus on the advancement of the human condition, not tired libertarian talking points about states rights and protectionist foreign policy. Until we create a new social/economic order that promotes Human advancement over material wealth, sharing over hoarding, and the adherence to the single law of being Human, to treat others as we would be treated, we will be shackled in capitalist slavery. DonJon.
@ohwadup I just got your reply. I cannot see how you can say "we got to the bottom of everything you bitch about." First, I was not 'bitching' when I stated that a new social/economic order was needed. Second, how can 'states rights' et al, solve the tragedy that is the current Human condition? Not that I don't agree with some of his statements, but without a grander purpose or vision, they are just more dogma. tks, DonJon.
@MoDonJon You don't get it . The experiment worked! Untill you figure out where it went wrong you cannot fix it. Poverty will always be the least where freedom is the most. FACT
Socialism may help a few people temporarily but in a free market there's so little need that churches and charity's can keep up. In a free market with sound money you can afford both procedures and insurance. We have lost our way. We need to get our freedom back and modernize it. Its a "more perfect" union.
@ohwadup You used to be able to buy a modest house have a few kids and leave the wife at home to raise them. all on a highschool degree salery. Inflation has been the invisible hand behind what you think is the "current" human condition. Human nature doesent change. The game changes. You take away peoples jobs, food, heathcare, ect your going to see a "human condition" that looks pretty glum. But you must create an environment for humans to flourish. The founding fathers did just that.
@ohwadup Socialism not only hurts the economy (google "force or froud rule") It is completely contrary to human nature. But to be honest i know im only talking shit on youtube but really man. This all goes way deeper and we would need to have a much longer discussion(S) for me to actually back all this up with facts.
@ohwadup How can you say I don't get it? You don't know what I get. What experiment worked? If we are to have a dialog you will need to be more clear and I will do the same. I am not an ideologue... I am looking for the next great Human social order. Do you believe a democratic/capitalist society is the best Humans can create? Will it end poverty, war, and Human disregard? I submit not. I suggest we look forward rather than backward. See the following post...
@MoDonJon Your statement regarding poverty and freedom would require that we agree on the definition of freedom. I believe Human freedom is the ability to pursue ones highest potential. That a truly free community is organized to allow this opportunity to all.
The current "free market" system must have winners and loser. Those that win are able to pursue their Human potential. Those that lose must work to enable the former. Therefore the losers don't have freedom as I define it.
Please Check Out The Fat Cat Bankers by Tokyo Rose it's a shame the end of this video will never become reality. Enjoy at least if's funny in a Satirical Way
this kid could be president someday....or someone like him. So long as enough people listen and the person doesn't get distracted by popularity and the first 15 minutes. Then we'd probably start season change - with a new generation
I say he is an ignorant, because he repeats like a parrot all the neo-liberal and neo-con clichés about free market. He speaks about real capitalism, as opposed to corrupt capitalism, as if history doesn't show that capitalism and crime were always together. I read the same books he did, so I know what he is talking about. Before you call me ignorant, analize carefully what he says... Is not very far from what we already have. In fact, this guy may end up working in Wall Street or Fox.
Here we have a well trained monkey. He probably only read von Hayek, Popper and some other conservative thinkers... Beyond that, he doesn't know much; he is ignorant. He learned his speech very well, he is eloquent, and gives the impression he knows what he's talking about. But we have heard the same words in many different places. He trusts the market, and he is right to do so, because eventually the market will have a nice place for him. He is just another noisy republican.
@osopolar720 can you show me how you know he learned this speech and isnt his own knowledge tat he has gained? how do YOU know HE is ignorant? making such a claim in my opinon makes you the ignorant one. maybe im wrong though, I dont mean to offend I just talk blunt
I'm a reasonable person. I'm also educated. The speaker here sounds like the latter, but not the former. Think abou this: the US has the 7th highest GDP per capita in the world - the 6 countries outranking us have an average population of 3.5 million, so wealth is easily spread around. We have a population of 300 million, yet the average person remains incredible wealthy by global standards. What do these protesters really have to complain about???
My comments are directed at @saynotohipsters not @chosentomessournotes
ian561x 3 days ago
respect to him and our fellow brothers and sisters of OWS and all the other globel groups.
The 99% will win
mymojodojo 5 days ago
Tosh.0 is right! END THE FED! RON PAUL 2012!
ShyRobot 1 week ago
FUCK SPELLLING - WE'RE BEING ENSLAVED
RAISE HELL AGAINST THE MACHINE
LISTEN TO CHARLIE CHAPLIN'S SPEECH - AND THE GREATEST SPEECH EVER MADE
GET THE FUCK UP! AND PROTEST AGAINST WAR
NO ONE IS AN EXTREMIST EXCEPT THE PIN STRIPED PIMPS
MEN TAKE YOUR EARRINGS OFF - BECOME MEN AGAIN - AND GET THEM THE FUCK OUT!!!
timewilltell7 1 week ago
@timewilltell7 Well said, throw them all out & vote for Ron Paul!
joe035 1 week ago
The funniest part of this whole video is that this kid has probably lived in his parents' mansion most of his life, feeling he's entitled to whatever the fuck he wants. Hence, why he's able to spend so much time protesting, and not enough time working. Or if he's unemployed, looking for a job. These people crack me up. Quit bitching and take some action. Protests have never done SHIT. The greedy will still be greedy and the evil will still be evil. No matter what.
chosentonessournotes 1 week ago
@chosentonessournotes All of you are the same! You think every person there has the same story because you're so fucking narrow-minded. Check your sources, do your own research. These people are like you and me. Sure, there are a couple rich kids, but there are still many, many different types of people. And protests have never done shit? Look at Egypt and the overthrow of Mubarak's regime. Or anywhere. The longest journey starts with a single step. This is that step. Quit bitching. Take action.
SayNoToHipsters 1 week ago
@SayNoToHipsters lol, this is too funny. Anyone that has time to camp out at Occupy Wallstreet for months on end must have no career-related responsibilities, therefore, they have no place to be "protesting" because they clearly have no issues with money. I am having a tough time with the job market, but currently Uncle Sam isn't trying to pinch my last couple of pennies, so, yeah. This kid? He is the 1%.
chosentonessournotes 1 week ago
@chosentonessournotes I guess u go home every night and get a good brainwashing session in with Fox or CNN. Looks like this kid know more than u ever will.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat The Law
ian561x 3 days ago
@chosentonessournotes "Money is the most important subject intellectual persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it is widely understood and its defects remedied very soon." Robert H. Hemphill, former credit manager, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
ian561x 3 days ago
@chosentonessournotes And I must know more than you, because I retired comfortably off at 41. But then I took the trouble to learn about money and how the system works. I am with the "hipster"/
ian561x 3 days ago
@ian561x Sheesh, I was gonna say, why are you spamming my inbox?
chosentonessournotes 3 days ago
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timewilltell7 1 week ago
This guy is good .. and you are dummasses! The Fed is the worse that ever happened to the American people. Not only to Americans .. to the whole world! He is so right.
I have seen a lot of Jerks comments in her .. Shows me (European) how dumm most of you peopel in the states are. The CIA kills your people (9/11) and the truly responsible people are still free!! Instead you believe that crap of OSAMA-Story ... gosh!
Hearing this young guy changed my mind coz i though ALLLL of you are dumm!
websibaer 1 week ago 8
@websibaer Okay, no offense Mr. High And Mighty, but when you can't even fucking spell DUMB, don't generalize an entire nation as BEING dumb. It makes you seem like an immature, illiterate piece of garbage. How are you so sure that the CIA was responsible for 9/11? Or ANYTHING regarding our country for that matter? How about you go back to sucking your Queen's dick and lay off us Americans for once.
chosentonessournotes 1 week ago
@websibaer Why the fuck is this fool being up-voted. You ignorant xenophobic fool you cant even spell correctly. Most of the ignorant views expressed on this page are European. Shows just how out of touch you people are if you constantly blame everything on Americans. Hell you can't even hand out a compliment to this young man without insulting his countrymen on the side. YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME FUCKING SICK
PasoFreak 1 week ago
@PasoFreak
shut up fool - what the fuck are you talking about?
you're making eveyone sick with your thickness - what are the facts?
nothing to do with xenophobia - and spelling isnt the issue you thick fuck
nothing to do with European - the same octopus who has its tentacles around america has them around Europe
LISTEN TO NIGEL FARAGE - NO ONE IS BLAMING AMERICA - WE'RE BLAMING THE OCTOPUS ELITE - END THE WARS END THE FED AND END THE WARS
timewilltell7 1 week ago
"Get corporations out of our policies."
Bingo. Ron Paul 2012.
LloydChristmas777 1 week ago
@LloydChristmas777 Why does everyone see Ron Paul as some kind of faux-savior when in reality he's just as money grubbing, sniveling, and greedy as the rest of them? You guys really need to take off your rose tinted shades because even if he WERE this country's best hope, he's certainly not getting elected. I can't tell you how many people I met during the last election who voted for Obama, but had no idea why. MANY people said it was because they wanted a black president.
chosentonessournotes 1 week ago
@chosentonessournotes, He's largely detached from corporations. He's against printing money. He's against spending trillions on war. He's against having military bases all over the world bringing tax payers to their knees. He's against picking fights with other countries simply for profit. He wants to take care of his own country instead of sticking his nose in other people's business. He's not the savior; the people are. It's not cool to vote Ron Paul as you assume.
LloydChristmas777 1 week ago
@chosentonessournotes, Ron Paul is no Obama. Obama is a war monger just like Bush. Only he doesn't boast. Who's your pick by the way?
LloydChristmas777 1 week ago
@LloydChristmas777 Isnt it amazing Obama can attack Libya without provocation or Congressional approval which violates the wars pact act & Constitution & our media says nothing. He should be impeached not be allowed to run again!
If Obama gets elected again this country is finished & I am not excited by the Republican choices either other then Paul, I like honesty!
joe035 1 week ago
@chosentonessournotes America stopped voting on merit a long time ago you make a good point or he would have won in 2008. The people who vote for Ron Paul are typically people who are constitutionalists with a strong understanding of lessons from history. Unfortunately most Americans have been dumbed down by media & the idea there is a difference in our 2 party system when in reality they just empower eachother to do the same shit. Ron Paul is the only honest guy running!
joe035 1 week ago
@LloydChristmas777 While a person on their own is smart, people as a group are mindless drones who feed into popular culture and whatever is hip at the moment. Just look at the top 40 charts some time, and you'll see what I mean. Talentless pieces of dogshit like LMFAO and Lady Gaga dominate. Why? Just like with politics, the masses are going to vote for whoever seems, "coolest." Not for who has the best ideals. But Ron Paul... A savior he is not.
chosentonessournotes 1 week ago
@LloydChristmas777 Mandatory ethics training for all represenatives.
No donations to any campaign that exceed $10 from any individual, no more union, corporate or other special interest allowed to donate "AKA buy politicians."
joe035 1 week ago
@joe035, Right on for all points and other points. Among other things, the donation policies should have a major revision. For sure, we should consider the idea of no organization able to donate a cent.
How do we get these war profiting goons out of politics? Not sure if voting will get it done. The masses are still slaves to the media and don't even think. The soldiers and police officers should just refuse to do unjust work. Easier said than done I know.
LloydChristmas777 1 week ago
@LloydChristmas777 It aint much to take comfort in Loyd but at least people like us believe in guns & they dont. You can teach a man to fish so he can eat for a lifetime or give a man a fish & buy a vote for a progressive.
joe035 6 days ago
So, Less government involvement. This dude belongs with the Tea Party
TheAJOlding 1 week ago
Again, ending the Fed is a Tea Party idea. why aren't you at the Tea Party.
TheAJOlding 1 week ago
Actually it's all Wal-Marts fault...putting small businesses out of business. DOWN WITH WAL-MART!!!! BITCHEZZZ!!!
thecyclepath1 1 week ago
Sounds like a lot of "Idealism" and very little "Realism". And I thought generation "X" was full of entitlement. Spend all that energy that you're using to bitch about the system to learn how to work within that system. Looks like a terrorist in the making to me. BTW I run my own small business that survived the recession not by bailouts or bitching about bailouts but by hard, smart business decisions. The only smart thing the young man said was to "Get corporations out of politics".
thecyclepath1 1 week ago
Between 1935 and 1943 the Works Progress Administration created JOBS FOR OVER 7 MILLION PREVIOUSLY UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS that created infrastructure and helped us out of the depression.
WE NEED A WPA STYLE JOBS PROGRAM NOW !
Put America back to work.
Any politician who says the government should not hire workers can follow their own idealogy, step down, and GIVE THEIR JOB TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT.
We need a WPA style jobs program!!!
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Lllburns 2 weeks ago
@Lllburns temporary government created jobs funded by taxes is NOT the solution. The creation of the 3 letter programs (WPA, CCC, etc) and the new deal is one of the big reasons we are in the trouble we are in.
godmathias 2 weeks ago
That's all we export? LOL.
blabblab1212 2 weeks ago
EL problema general es que se salio del circulo la relación trabajo o producto y dinero,,,, se necesita un nuevo orden económico, el sistema económico para la forma actual de manejar recursos no renovables y recursos intelectuales es totalmente desfasada.
legolasXD 3 weeks ago
"when i fuck up who bailes me out?, why should goldman sachs get bailed?".... well simple if you fuck up there is no need to bail out because you wont completly fuck the economy up if we ignore you. this couldnt be said for the banks that were bailed......
TheHerculeanMan 3 weeks ago
I agree with what he said, but not Ron Paul's other libertarian ideas, we need a community. The US is nothing without a community with the biggest middle class.
maloso305 4 weeks ago
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thespeez 3 weeks ago
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@maloso305 What's wrong with Paul's 'other' libertarian ideas? Shouldn't the government stay out of our personal and economic affairs so long as someone isn't being hurt by another's negligence or recklessness? Much evidence exists that wherever people are free, they are also the most prosperous; and vice-verse. What do mean by 'community'? I think libertarians are probably amongst the most community minded of all people.
thespeez 3 weeks ago
@thespeez libertarian is a negation of community, is the idolatry of the individual and selfishness, there is no community for them, what we are living right now is the wet dream of libertarians, every one with money and power getting away with "murder" the purpose of government is to organize and regulate society, libertarians do not believe in "society"
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Nothing could be farther from the truth! Libertarians advocate a TRUE free market which we do NOT have now and never really had except for MAYBE in the early days of this country after its establishment, and even then there were issues! When corporations lobby the gov't 2 protect their sorry asses, that is not an example of a true free market, but is an example of CORPORATE WELFARE which is the antithesis of the free market. big business and big gov't go hand in hand!(2 p2)
thespeez 2 weeks ago
(p2) In a TRUE free market, you are more likely to have a state of pure competition where each business in a given industry competes with the other. These companies do not lobby their favorite politicians so that they can have an unfair edge in the industry. Now, in the 1920s, we didn't have a true free market by any means. Coolidge was a strong sympathizer of corporate welfare. Give me time and I should be able to come up with articles which back my claims up. (2 p3, please)
thespeez 2 weeks ago
(p3) As U may know, libertarians oppose the war on drugs. When pharmaceutical, oil, chemical & other industries lobby the government 2 protect their interests, how can U or anyone else claim that this is a function of the free market? Oh, and about community? We libertarians want 2 see small business prevail! People should B allowed 2 do business with a local merchant. It shouldn't be subject 2 undue regulations & rules which are passed by the big guys & keep competition @ bay! (2 p4)
thespeez 2 weeks ago
(p4) You claim that most libertarians are rich and while many are, an equal or even greater number are middle class or lower including myself. Big business would want nothing to do with us! BTW Reagan was NO libertarian either! In fact, corporate welfare INCREASED during his reign!
thespeez 2 weeks ago
@thespeez I never said they are all rich but I bet they wish to be or "serve" some "job creator", most are one issue thinkers and cheerleaders of capital, money is not all there is...you can keep complaining how this is not a perfect libertarian result but this is (what is going on today) is what you advocated for. you are an extremist.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@thespeez Competition implies to gain advantage over your competition, and that is what corporations have been doing from the beginning, the only force that could keep them in line would be an independent strong government and regulations protect society's interests and small business. Libertarians are selfish small mind greedy people.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@thespeez Like I said you can not define the world in market terms, As you put it "competition""free market""small government" the logical consequence of these is a winner takes all with no regulation, the result of competition without regulation is exactly what we have now. I'm sorry but you are blind to many other factors concentrating only in the monetary parts of society. Ayn Rand was just a bitter old woman with a revenge wish. Libertarians are missing the whole picture.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@maloso305 SAID: And you don't create demand for your product, you create a product because there is a market for it
Well the 100's of billions of dollars spent every year on brandbuilding & marketing say different. America loves to consume even shit they dont need.
joe035 2 weeks ago
@joe035 how little you know about business, you do not have the kind of capital to be involved in "branding" and even then the need have to be there.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@maloso305 LOL Okay coming from a guy who doesn't own or run a biz & rejects even the most obvious principles.
Again you claimed : you don't create demand for your product, you create a product because there is a market for it.
The billions spent on brand building & marketing trumps your idea if you create it people will buy it! There was NO MARKET for the pet rock, but the one the owner created!
You probably supported Obama's jobs bill & stimulus too, right?
joe035 2 weeks ago
@joe035 The pet rock is an excellent example of the stupidity of your thinking, The same people that falls for the kind of ideas you do, would fall for the pet rock, and it say a lot about where your mind is...fooling cheating and stealing is where capitalist have their thoughts...profiteering con artists.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@maloso305 Malso you benefit personally because of Capitalism. The guy who created the pet rock created jobs & a demand for a rock with plastic eyeballs & yarn hair! The people who bought the rock were not forced too! He made millions & created jobs for people like you. He made his life & those who didn't have a job better!
So you think our government is so much more ethical then us job creating capitalists?? LOL
joe035 1 week ago
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@thespeez what you are saying sound like the communists when they complaint that the current examples were not pure. No extreme will ever work, like everything in the universe there have to be a "balance" what we are living today is the logical consequence of basing the world in monetary terms, we are not a "market" we live in societies and we have many obligations for the whole, we do not live in segregated agricultural towns what the libertarians propose is taking us to the stone age
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@thespeez no market is going to be pure enough for capitalist, because their premise is base in myths and lies and every time it fails.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@thespeez there is no evidence for what you proposed on the contrary, when you let capital grow unchecked is when everything go to shit like in 1029 and now...There is no absolute freedom some refer to economic freedom other are satisfied with personal freedom and others religious freedom... is an opium dream from stupid minds that do not learn from history.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 You create your own freedom.
MrD0m1n4t10n 3 weeks ago
@MrD0m1n4t10n everyone's freedom end where others start, that is why we need laws and consequently a impartial government to protect everyone's rights, liberty is limited by the size of populations the more confine the space becomes your freedoms are more limited, we all deserve a piece of freedom.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 That is true, but i still don't get why some people(the 1%) make the others suffer for there own well being, while they already have enough..
MrD0m1n4t10n 3 weeks ago
@MrD0m1n4t10n that is exactly what I'm saying, there is nothing more unfair than having a class of people owning so much when the rest own so little,The worst part is that they own the microphone and make it look like they have the right to do this and the rest of people a lazy and they are hard workers when there is nothing father from the truth. this is the consequence of Regan's "supply side economics"
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@MrD0m1n4t10n This is why we need to rescind corporate welfare! If these execs get their sorry asses into hock, they should have to pay out of their company's earnings or their own damned pockets whom they screwed over! If that means selling their mansion or Rolls or Van Gogh, too friggin' bad!
thespeez 2 weeks ago
@MrD0m1n4t10n I'm afraid we are so far gone that it would take something extreme to change the situation, "corporate welfare" is capitalism. Competition without regulation is going to produce a winner take's all and concentration of capital like we see today. this capitalists do not produce anything that lots of small business couldn't do.
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@maloso305 capitalism is built on small business, not corporations, our facade of a system is.
aCorpseonthePiano 2 weeks ago
@aCorpseonthePiano sorry you are wrong, capitalism is investment of capital for profit, a small business is investment of your labor to make a living, there is a big difference.A small business owner work next to their employees..
maloso305 2 weeks ago
@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 IF you think it's bad now, if we get a soclist regime here, it will only get worse. Worse yet, you may have little say in matters! In such a society, you must get government permission to do just about anything. Now, I totally agree with you on your analysis of both the 'left' and 'right'.
thespeez 2 weeks ago
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@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
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@thespeez Intelligent is the mind that takes into consideration all foreseeable consequences of their ideas, not the ones that stick to their original impressions, that is why the right and the left are wrong, because they are extremes none will ever work, If we were smart we would be utilizing the good ideas from where ever they come from and seek balance and sustainability.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
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@maloso305 What's wrong with Paul's 'other' libertarian ideas? Shouldn't the government stay out of our personal and economic affairs so long as someone isn't being hurt by another's negligence or recklessness? Much evidence exists that wherever people are free, they are also the most prosperous; and vice-verse. What do mean by 'community'? I think libertarians are probably amongst the most community minded of all people.
thespeez 3 weeks ago
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thespeez 3 weeks ago
WoW! he's cute and smart...
sandraand6690 1 month ago
23 trillion buddy. not 800 billion
emetts2112 1 month ago
For fuck sakes vote for Ron Paul because Kennedy was US' last president and a good majority of Americans are completely blind and only voted for Obama because HES BLACK! OOO our first black president lets make this happen thats all we care about!
JamesonLB 1 month ago
@JamesonLB Ron Paul is a decrepit old fool from the same party the destroyed the US with "supply side economics" and deregulation The same party that is owned by money and caused the other party to do the same in order to "compete".
maloso305 4 weeks ago
When/if OWS comes up with an official spokesman, it better be this guy.
londean 1 month ago 2
Regardz from Netherlands and turkey
bugiej 1 month ago
Elite=Israel. So boycot the fucking zionists and everything will be ok.
bugiej 1 month ago
PREACH.
SimonJebus 1 month ago
Guy needs a microphone...the truth is ruining his voice.
cipher88101 1 month ago 8
@cipher88101 He needed a bull-horn!
thespeez 1 week ago
Another Ron Paul youth awakened by the mess you fucking RINO & Progressive assholes have created for him!
Prediction:
2012 Rommney gets nomination thanks to our corporate owned media to lose to Obama who only wins because Gary Johnson's third party takes Conservative, Independant & Libertarian votes leaving you RINO's with Obama for 4 more years!
Ron Paul or Bust 2012!
joe035 1 month ago 3
Also, Wall Street doesn't know when the market is going to go up or down... and the stock markets specifically don't have all that much to do with people if they don't own stock... other securities, yes... but not really common stock... also, George Soros has actually given money to the OWS movement... I'm voting for Mitt Romney, personally... Ron Paul is a good guy and has some great ideas... but some of his policies are kind of bad ideas... Mitt Romney 2012.
thatguynamedbrent 1 month ago
@thatguynamedbrent Mitt Romney stated that "corporations are people, my friend". That automatically disqualifies him from being president.
guydudeasian 1 month ago
@guydudeasian Look how Unions decide elections in states, there must be a counter or no special interest money at all. We all should be reduced to maximum donation of $5 per US citizen for any candidiate or issue eliminate all union & corporate money donations all together.
joe035 1 month ago
@joe035 That still doesn't address the problem that Romney thinks corporations should have unlimited influence in elections. This is why publicly financed elections are the only answer to the problem. Compared to the amount of money we spend on military and Medicare/Medicaid, it'd be a drop in the bucket in exchange for candidates that must run on message rather than ads and money.
guydudeasian 1 month ago
@joe035 is hard to believe someone still blame unions and progressives for this mess, you have to be a mayor fuck up to think that "supply side economics" and deregulation are not the reason everything when to shit in the US and around the globe. You are delusional.
maloso305 4 weeks ago
@maloso305 No the blame doesn't lie solely on Progressives though they advocate the same corporate socialism that the RINO's have. Bush started the bailouts that Obama approved & then extended. Why is govt giving tax money to Soros to drill for oil off Brazils coast? When will we get the 25 BILLION back from GM, who empowered Obama to give 500 MILLION to Solyndra & why shouldnt a biz risk their own money? Why did I as as small biz owner write the Feds a check while GE paid nothing??
joe035 4 weeks ago
@joe035 I'm not going to defend Obama or corporation because the problem is the extreme turn of the country to the right and unapologetic capitalism, just as communism capitalism is no the answer, If we were "intelligent" we would be looking for the middle, ideas from both extremes and common sense, balance and sustainability is going o come the day money gets out of politics. cronyism or any other kind of capitalism still capitalism .
maloso305 4 weeks ago
@maloso305 No bailing out douche bags like Goldman Sachs, or giving our tax money to corporate friends who help you out at campaign time has nothing to do with Capitalism.
Tax Payers taking ownership of GM instead of letting it reorganize under bankruptcy laws is not Capitalism. Capitalism does not exist in a true form in the US any longer as the govt picks the winners & losers according to their agendas! Successful biz are over taxed & regulated, while inept biz is bailed out & stimulated.
joe035 4 weeks ago
@joe035 Make no mistake this is the "small government" conservatives, libertarians and neo conservatives have been working for at least 30 years, you are about to "drown government in bath water"
maloso305 4 weeks ago
@maloso305 Govt made this mess! Bill Clinton & a BIPARTRISAN Congress repealed Glass Steagull allowing these unqualified loans to happen! Frank Dodd bill did not include Fannie or Freddie in the reform bill that replaced steagull & they were the LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS!
16 TRILLION DEBT By end of this year, 120 TRILLION in UNFUNDED liabilities was ENTIRELY CREATED BY govt! Govt involvement in corporate affairs "Corporate Socialism" is why this country is in trouble not advocating fiscal sanity!
joe035 4 weeks ago
@joe035 The government you are referring to is the one lobbying, campaign financing and now "citizens united" created. again , you can't be conservative and libertarian and complaint about what you help create. corporate taking from government is the logical result of the prostitution of government by money, now they are getting the fruit of their investment and this is capitalism going to their intended objective.
maloso305 4 weeks ago
@maloso305 Bill Clinton & Obama are both DEMOCRATS not conservatives or Libertarians! Bill Clinton repealed glass steagull & advocated for these no proof of income poor credit history no down laons!!! Obama approved the Bush bailouts & extended them. This is an establishment bhig government problem which encompasses both parties. Libertarians advocate the govt exist within a budget & the paying down of our debt, Progressives have CREATED IT with entitlements & Conservatives with war!
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Regan, Bush and Bush Jr. with their idealism and Clinton and Obama corrupted by money produces by the capitalism embolden by supply side economics, you can not pick and choose what this "capitalism" have created . no matter what you call it is capitalism of the last 30yrs that created this situation. progressives have not been in power for the last 30yrs look at the facts...
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Pres. Wilson allowed the creation of the Federal Reserve, he was a Progressive! Sen Rockefeller is a progressive & OWNS part of the Federal Reserve along with his Progressive friends the Rothchilds. Soros takes tax money from Obama to drill oil he also calls himself a progressive. You might truly be a progressive but these establishment hacks are destroying us from within.
You cannot define people by the ideology they claim to be part of, Capitalism works, corporate socialism doesnt!
joe035 3 weeks ago 2
@joe035 I said from the beginning we should look for a middle and adopt the good ideas from both sides, no extreme is going to get us out of this one, do not believe the easy answers, there is non, but I think is a big mistake to take away the safety net from the equation, we live in big cities and we need to make sure to take care of the people that can't for them selves,
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 The reason the country is broke Malso is because we made charity the role of govt rather then accepting it as a personal responsibility.
Now there millions of people who have allowed themselves to become dependant on govt with no other means of survival.
117 TRILLION in UNFUNDED obligations you owe $1,040,000 personally not counting what you owe towards our national debt!
We all pay into these taxes, but many who could but dont still benefit!
Ron Paul has the only solution.
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 First of all government was never about charity, there are imperfections in the system and there are sections of population that have no access to a jobs or a way to earn a living for many reasons, If you are so insensitive to how many people are not able or have the ability to compete you are out of touch. Is the simplicity of the right to to indoctrinate people like you what amaze me. Capitalism 101 tells you that you find a need and fulfill it, there is no "job creation"
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Section 8 housing, WICK, food stamps, are all govt run charities!! Explain how these are not charitable?? SSI, Medicaire, prescription drugs are all broke because they pay out more then what they bring in, that is Govt run CHARITY! You personally owe over 1 million in UNFUNDED obligations to these programs!
Malso I found a niche & built my biz from savings! We manufacture 100% of our products in USA. I took risk & CREATED jobs for american workers instead of sending them overseas!
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Profit is made from capital if your are a small business owner you put labor and you get a paycheck if there is anything extra may be consider profit until you get unexpected expenses if you get any thing is a fact of life, you can not calculate profit until you reach a sales volume to allow you to pay yourself materials labor and all expenses, that is business 101.and your employees are at the end part of a chain that produce your customers, you did not created any jobs is necessity.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 It would seem you know somebody who runs a small business & gets by?
Job creation was a biproduct of my desire to make money. If I didn't take risk & create a demand for my product there would be no jobs to be had & no profit for me.
I appreciate your point there are many small business owners who are just getting by.
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 :0) I never said it is a small paycheck.... as a owner you decide how much to pay your self and make sure you produce enough, and if you invest any money your self you pay yourself back with interest but as a owner investor you create your own job and the labor you require is like any other expense you play by the rules, pay your taxes, insurance and licenses and don't cut corners other wise you are not doing business you are sheeting,
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@joe035 And you don't create demand for your product, you create a product because there is a market for it
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@joe035 If this assholes with the money (job creators) don't invest in it, there would be thousands of small business that will, the stupidity of that title ("job creators") is only believable by people with simple minds. like that is only the stupid that would follow this assholes profiteers good for nothing, all you have to do is the kinds of mistakes they did with the mortgage fiasco. All they know what to do is take advantage of the people that really are able to create something.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 I took the risk in starting my biz because I saw potential of creating a profit. I could easily have gone overseas for 25 cent labor in many cases manufacturers have too! Fortunately our product lines are not commodity driven so I can afford to hire people here. Americans all want to make a lot of money & buy cheap for the most part.
The mortgage fiasco happened because Bill Clinton & a Bipartisan Congress advocated policy everyone deserves a home regardless if they can pay for it!
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 that is bull, this people corrupted the system so homes would be over priced and pressured the rating agency to rate AAA the securitized mortgages on top of that they offered mortgages with easy approvals and unchecked incomes, you are so blind.
And American have to make lots of money because they live in America and the cheap crap they consume is because importation is open with no taxes. No one live in vacuum like the libertarians wish,
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Malso this was the result of Clinton a PROGRESSIVE & a BIPARTISAN Congress repealing glass steagull! It was repealed so Clionton could accomadate people who were not credit worthy to buy homes. this is irrefutable & easily confirmed on line. I am against NAFTA it is a bad deal for everyone! I compete against China & India as they steal our designs & produce them cheap to sell to our customers here! I still manage to export some products
Corporations asked govt to bail them out!
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 If you don't pay good wages where do you think your market is going to come from? China?
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Some of what we do is just assembly work & some is skilled labor. I choose to make my product here because I CAN as it is a high end product.
On one hand you condem the Federal Reserve & the other you embrace Progressivism. No ideology has played a greater role in its creation & continued existance then Progressives!
The Left wants the govt to take care of everyone, though it is going broke & the Right wants to continue to police the world & fight wars with no govt to overthrow!
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Ok I had no hopes of changing your mind, We are in different worlds, some of the points we coincide on we do for different reasons, and you are talking pass my points. just be careful that the "class" that you are a fan of will not consider you as equal, right now being wealthy is no what used to be...have a nice life and enjoy your wealth while it last. One more thing a "small business is not aim to make a profit" is to make a living profit is coincidental Adios
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 I never talked by any of your points; I agreed with some of them. I referenced you govt ran charities that you refused to acknowledge & pointed out that your advocation for the Progressives & condemnation of Conservatives & Libertarians is wrong . You cant blame one without acknowledging the role Progressives played in the calamity we now face. You are entitled to your opinion but not your facts. You cant make a living without a profit & no one in biz just wants to get by!
goodluck
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Changing the name of capitalism is not going to excuse it, accept that this is the end result of concentrating capital in fewer hands. Right now is hard for any small business to start without investment capital, they take away any control you may have and if your not careful you will loose it. Small business are in danger with all this investment capital looking for a bigger return than the current interest rate.Thank to Regan. Progressive ideology have nothing to do with that.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 Having a small S-corp & writing a check to both the Feds & State every year unlike GE or friends of our Ruling Elite I can tell you the banks are not lending money because there is no clarity if our economy will truly recover. Obama has added 5 TRILLION to our debt that is a future tax & taxes impede job creation! Consumer confidence needs to be restored & you don't do that by creating future taxes! I dont know why you think your a progressive as many of them made this mess.
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Sorry you are wrong and illogical how is it that you blame SS and medicaid for this mess and dismiss the tax breaks, the wars, prescription drugs, open borders for imported good, loop holes for corporation lobbying, deregulation and the fact that before the last Bush administration there was a budget surplus sorry but you delusional look at some history and facts if you have still some brain left...I'm done trying to explain, you are proposing a country plutocracy...
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@joe035 the debt will never be payed back is not possible, is an illusion that there ever will be a debt free US unless they get read of the fed. the most we can hope for is a balanced budget. We give the fed the right to create money out of thin air and charge us interest on it.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 I agree 100! Sadly we own the reserve currency to the world our government screwed everyone. All Bankers & politicians who have played a part in the destruction of our dollar should be put on trial for treason!
We have yet to see the collapse but it is inevitable as this is what it would seem the establishment govt wants as no one could be as naive as the President & Congress we have now who keep spending.
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 Most of the blame should be at the feet of the "conservative party" progressives are complicit and corrupted by money, The real tragedy that the propaganda from the right with very effective but childish arguments managed to corrupt American's by muddying the arguments and blaming progressives for every problem in this country and inserting religion in the discussions. let me remain you that religion was one of the reasons why Europeans fled to America.
maloso305 3 weeks ago
@maloso305 The conservative party is irrelevant ONLY those who call themselves Democrats or Republicans get voted into office. I just gave you examples of politicians who call themselves progressives one of which WILSON allowed the creation of the Federal Reserve. Teddy Roosevelt was considered a Progressive but aligned himself to the Republican party. Look up the definition of Libertarian & you will see they are more in line with classic liberals rather then the contemporary ones today.
joe035 3 weeks ago
@joe035 You've raised some fantastic points here! Being a business owner you know all too much how well the gov't tries to impose so much red tape. Moreover, much of this (I'll assume) can be traced directly to how much corporate welfare is a factor.
thespeez 1 week ago
@thatguynamedbrent the GOP are to blame for all the problems we are facing today with "supply side economics", deregulation, citizens united corporation citizenship and stupid people that are easily dissuaded by propaganda from the right and giving away heir right and devaluing their own labor, and creating a upper class of supper rich that have no shame when they call you lazy for not being rich, thinking that you are unemployed be cause is something wrong with you
maloso305 4 weeks ago
The US produces a lot more than what this gentleman says... the banks didn't ask for a bailout... commodity backed currencies (the gold standard) are obsolete... big corporations aren't necessarily a bad thing... lobbyists aren't necessarily a bad thing... and military spending certainly isn't a bad thing... I do agree that the government should be smaller, more power to the states, bring more production to America. This gentleman seems passionate about his cause... but he is a bit misinformed..
thatguynamedbrent 1 month ago
@thatguynamedbrent Excessive military spending on endless wars and stationing in other countries is a bad thing. Corporations that evade taxes through many loopholes that lobbyists are hired to put into legislation is a bad thing. The banks DID ask for a bailout, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase for example.
guydudeasian 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012
JaimeNunyabusiness 1 month ago 4
@JaimeNunyabusiness Ron paul's foreign policy is very scary
Soccerj1000 2 weeks ago
looks like that guy from scotthermanfitness rofl xD
DjFikus 1 month ago
You go guy !!!!
vinged 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012
tycore4sure 1 month ago 2
@tycore4sure Keep trying the GOP like it has not been try enough, what make you think they have any interest in in changing their curse, or you like supply side economics?
maloso305 3 weeks ago
The world is pretty much fucked if we allow the corporations to lord over us like we do.
DarkNinja24k 1 month ago
He's a Hero.
makirichi 1 month ago
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makirichi 1 month ago
This guy needs to get elected to some kind of office and be our voice.
paulswebdiscounts 1 month ago
Isn't this guy preaching to the quire? Everyone around him is there for the same reason.....no?
osityan 1 month ago
@osityan
nope, as with most protests these days. A lot of the people don't have a clue what exactly they're protesting against.
oceancupify 1 month ago
This guy wants a bail out? How many people does he employ? Let me guess.... O
osityan 1 month ago
Obama is just a puppet puppy
sim4ata 1 month ago
Its funny that he never says anything negative about obama, when obama is the one responsible for all this mess! Its ridiculous!
651journey 1 month ago
@651journey stopping obama wont stop it. hes just a pawn.
Ubertastic 1 month ago
@651journey
obama is irrelevant, he's just a puppet
v4lkyr 1 month ago 7
@v4lkyr puppet yes, irrelevent no - he is VERY relevent as he is PREVENTING true reforms.
lastdaysguitar 1 month ago
You might want to consider New Zealand - best kept secret in the world
edwardtagg 1 month ago
Hahahahaha he is assuming it was sound in 1913? Ahhhh. people....
sysopkc 1 month ago
Ron Paul will ruin this country, and likely much of the world by his protectionism...
tigersta1k 1 month ago
@tigersta1k can ruin what is already ruined !
TheNwoRhemity 1 month ago
Prepare and pray... Ron Paul 2012!
alishadjc 1 month ago
Honestly, I wouldn't call this this amazing... We need 21st century solutions that focus on the advancement of the human condition, not tired libertarian talking points about states rights and protectionist foreign policy. Until we create a new social/economic order that promotes Human advancement over material wealth, sharing over hoarding, and the adherence to the single law of being Human, to treat others as we would be treated, we will be shackled in capitalist slavery. DonJon.
MoDonJon 1 month ago
@MoDonJon You say talking point we say "we got to the bottom of everything you bitch about" get on board no-one cares how smart you look.
ohwadup 1 month ago
@ohwadup I just got your reply. I cannot see how you can say "we got to the bottom of everything you bitch about." First, I was not 'bitching' when I stated that a new social/economic order was needed. Second, how can 'states rights' et al, solve the tragedy that is the current Human condition? Not that I don't agree with some of his statements, but without a grander purpose or vision, they are just more dogma. tks, DonJon.
MoDonJon 3 weeks ago
@MoDonJon You don't get it . The experiment worked! Untill you figure out where it went wrong you cannot fix it. Poverty will always be the least where freedom is the most. FACT
Socialism may help a few people temporarily but in a free market there's so little need that churches and charity's can keep up. In a free market with sound money you can afford both procedures and insurance. We have lost our way. We need to get our freedom back and modernize it. Its a "more perfect" union.
ohwadup 3 weeks ago
@ohwadup You used to be able to buy a modest house have a few kids and leave the wife at home to raise them. all on a highschool degree salery. Inflation has been the invisible hand behind what you think is the "current" human condition. Human nature doesent change. The game changes. You take away peoples jobs, food, heathcare, ect your going to see a "human condition" that looks pretty glum. But you must create an environment for humans to flourish. The founding fathers did just that.
ohwadup 3 weeks ago
@ohwadup Socialism not only hurts the economy (google "force or froud rule") It is completely contrary to human nature. But to be honest i know im only talking shit on youtube but really man. This all goes way deeper and we would need to have a much longer discussion(S) for me to actually back all this up with facts.
ohwadup 3 weeks ago
@ohwadup How can you say I don't get it? You don't know what I get. What experiment worked? If we are to have a dialog you will need to be more clear and I will do the same. I am not an ideologue... I am looking for the next great Human social order. Do you believe a democratic/capitalist society is the best Humans can create? Will it end poverty, war, and Human disregard? I submit not. I suggest we look forward rather than backward. See the following post...
MoDonJon 3 weeks ago
@MoDonJon Your statement regarding poverty and freedom would require that we agree on the definition of freedom. I believe Human freedom is the ability to pursue ones highest potential. That a truly free community is organized to allow this opportunity to all.
The current "free market" system must have winners and loser. Those that win are able to pursue their Human potential. Those that lose must work to enable the former. Therefore the losers don't have freedom as I define it.
No more space
MoDonJon 3 weeks ago
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Please Check Out The Fat Cat Bankers by Tokyo Rose it's a shame the end of this video will never become reality. Enjoy at least if's funny in a Satirical Way
Tokyorosebiz 1 month ago
@MrAmputechture “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable.” -JFK
meeshlv 2 months ago
this kid could be president someday....or someone like him. So long as enough people listen and the person doesn't get distracted by popularity and the first 15 minutes. Then we'd probably start season change - with a new generation
GillsTrousers 3 months ago
I say he is an ignorant, because he repeats like a parrot all the neo-liberal and neo-con clichés about free market. He speaks about real capitalism, as opposed to corrupt capitalism, as if history doesn't show that capitalism and crime were always together. I read the same books he did, so I know what he is talking about. Before you call me ignorant, analize carefully what he says... Is not very far from what we already have. In fact, this guy may end up working in Wall Street or Fox.
osopolar720 3 months ago
TAKE DOWN THE OFFICER, TAKE DOWN THE OFICER!!!!!!!!! TAKE DOWN THE FED , TAKE DOWN THE FEED ,
Mopsmops 3 months ago
Here we have a well trained monkey. He probably only read von Hayek, Popper and some other conservative thinkers... Beyond that, he doesn't know much; he is ignorant. He learned his speech very well, he is eloquent, and gives the impression he knows what he's talking about. But we have heard the same words in many different places. He trusts the market, and he is right to do so, because eventually the market will have a nice place for him. He is just another noisy republican.
osopolar720 3 months ago
@osopolar720 can you show me how you know he learned this speech and isnt his own knowledge tat he has gained? how do YOU know HE is ignorant? making such a claim in my opinon makes you the ignorant one. maybe im wrong though, I dont mean to offend I just talk blunt
jongib369 3 months ago
I'm a reasonable person. I'm also educated. The speaker here sounds like the latter, but not the former. Think abou this: the US has the 7th highest GDP per capita in the world - the 6 countries outranking us have an average population of 3.5 million, so wealth is easily spread around. We have a population of 300 million, yet the average person remains incredible wealthy by global standards. What do these protesters really have to complain about???
orderly87 3 months ago
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jongib369 3 months ago
"If there's anyone here who wants to protest police brutality we're..." haha, what is this just a gather of nothingbettertodo's?
THEECF 3 months ago