@Frenzy5891 there is somenthing more terrible. While posting these tapes'about S.P. Poisoning someone answered to me 'is not important' 'to me these is irrilevant'. What kind of persons are that? How can i consider them devotees? The meat eaters are not so insensitive. Why the so called devotees can even think such expression? I'm really scary about these persons. I think they are worst than S.S.
@Frenzy5891 there is somenthing more terrible. While posting these tapes'about S.P. Poisoning someone answered to me 'is not important' 'to me these is irrilevant'. What kind of persons are that? How can i consider them devotees? The meat eaters are not so insensitive. Why the so called devotees can even think such expression? I'm really scary about these persons. I think they are worst than S.S.
The CIA and the racist western secret organizations conspire and murdered this great soul. They felt his spiritual movement (non-evangelical) was spreading like wildfire all over the world and poses a danger to their corrupt political, cultural and organized religious system. These satanic dogs planted child molesters and murderers in PRABHUPADAS movement to blemish his good name and take over and destroy the Hare Krisna movement.
The only argument now should be: Who has done this poisoning?
Hmm, well who has spent their lives trying to hide & deny the tape?
The GBC. Every "guru" in power to this day. That's who.
These are simply facts and logic. Which leaves me to conclude: if you are a disciple of one of these "guru's", you have either been brainwashed with fear from investigating the matter, or you have a mental disorder. or just a combination of both. which is very unfortunate indeed.
What i don't get is how people could simply turn a blind eye on the poison tape. no matter what side you're on, it is an irrefutable argument. SP says he is being poisoned. what more do you want? SP is a pure devotee. pure devotee's have their senses controlled DIRECTLY from Sri Krsna himself. when such a pure devotee makes a statement, you can bet your life 10 times over that that statement is 110% credible.
No one can kill such a powerful personality....he is a saktyavesha...buddha is saktyavesha, he sat unde the tree and maya attacked him and even death personified but he defeated them. similarly Prabhupada is like that. he is regarded more superior to buddha in some cases...so how can someone kill him....this video made me laugh
So, the supposed "killers" of Srila Prabhupada, whispered directly into the microphone about their poisoning plot? More like those over-dubbing onto the original recording did. Shame on you all for assisting in tearing down the great house Prabhupada built for us all! Many who lead are far from perfect, but the only real poison being distributed is yours!
Fucking Guru-Killers.Krsna kill ya ,all of you ,one after another.Fucking seck.Lord Nrsmhadev please kill all this fucking Guru murderers one after another.Tava kara kamala vare nakham Adbhuta Simham.Dalita Hitanyakasipu tanu bhringam.Kesiava drita Narahari Rupa.Jaya Jagadisia Hare Jaya Jagadisia Hare Jaya Jagadisia Hare.Jaya Nrsimhadev.Jaya Prahlad Maharaja.Jaya Prabhupada.Jaya Prabhupada.JayaPrabhupada!!!.
@simek66 let also hanuman kill so called called Iluminati who came to manipulate to control,kill,exploit,mentally rape and kill saints(sadhus)they need to be terminated asap. they hide in vaishnava dress. they was sent by US goverment.Obama is their puppet Rockefeller family controls everything .SO Kalki please smash them now!
The White man has no Soul nor Spirit. He was born recessive without a soul so thus travelled far to purchase, and if he cannot buy, he Steals, and if he cannot steal, he Destroys. So were the outcome of many of Natural indigenous people of Planet Earth by the evil hand of the Recessive whites. Now we are facing endangered Planet!
What a shame that this Holy Man who ventured out to help the wicked Soul-Less Recessives, and then they killed him.
@MrJay429 by puting a comment you are showing that you are no less racist than the kkk, and if you new your history youd know that the "white man" evolved from the "black man" when they left africa hundreds of thousands of years ago as did every other race of man did, so that would mean we all dont have souls, including watever race you are
@unluckynutter this is not true at all and cannot base your thesis on what the scientests tell you or that the oldest fossil to date was found in africa.this does not mean the first person that ever lived was african there is no proof of this.all these races were here at the same time they did not migrate and there environment give them slanted eyes or the sun give them black skin we are all from the image of God's human species
@fedreserve so acording to you we all just suddenly appeared one day, instead of evolving from apes that lived in africa, humans are just a type of ape u idiot, only thing is we became smarter than every other animal and because of this nolonger classed ourselfs as animals, and when we invented god we decided that he made us in his image, dosnt mean its true , and u say theres no proof to my theory....theres alot more proof than yours.
@unluckynutter actually our dna is linked more closely to dolphins than it is of apes why would we invent God? then who invented us and who invented the planets? actually quantum physics and the scientific numbers proves there is a God. If this is what you believe than cool, your life is meaningles my life on the otherhand has very much meaning and i have close relationship with God what you say cannot change factual evidence from not being true, im still glad you only evolved from a rock moron
@fedreserve LMAO there are soo many things wrong with wat u just put , for a start we share somthing like 99.8% percent of our DNA with chimpanzies so i doubt that dolphins are more closely linked, people invent gods for somthing to belive in and to convince themselfs there is somthing affter death and knowone invented us because we evolved, and no my life is not meaningles, im not restricted by some stupid religion so i am able to spend my time on earth how i want to.
@unluckynutter Did i hit a soft spot? Well sorry to burst your false sense of security further but i suggest you brush up on your "historical facts". Origins of Melanin, go look it up.
all great people and great leaders are purposely terminated by the Illuminati, nor anybody who may not adhere to their agenda. Collecting data through free use of internet like FB is another form of instrument to trace their detractors.
The CIA and the racist western secret organizations conspire and murdered the great soul- PRABHUPADA. They felt his (non-evangelical)spiritual movement was spreading like wildfire all over the world that poses a danger to their political, cultural and religious system. These satanic dogs planted child molesters and murderers in PRABHUPADAS movement to blemish his good name and take over and destroy the Hare Krisna organization
@GonG108 they are the worlds largest cult, presidents, royals, and prime ministers are influenced by them, i think they should be able to get out of anything, no matter what they do...
have nothing will clash. long live peace, dont forget to smile. once we stand up and say we are not going to be apart of this any longer because WE are YOUR meal tickets then we are getting some where, there is a reason why america wants pot heads locked up and grown ass men that have sex with lil kids get months or probation. in my eyes we are nothing but lab rats. War screams into the world all day every day, people cant love one another, no respect for your fellow man.
this may be off subject but, iam from missouri and i am a black man, its hard finding your true way here in america cause of all the bs, down here we have something called "scwaggstock" (CAMP ZOE BABY FOR LIFE!) but its what its what every single person at woodstock felt, we are tired of it, people dying, losing you houses and for what the rich to keep getting richer and poor staying poor and dying off. i came to understand that it will be until all the people that have it all and the ones who
Hm, I've searched around and read some books ..but still I don't understand, what did this man do, that made him such a high priority target for The Illuminati?
was that for real or what. sounded fake because of the sound change, or did you just turn it up to let us hear it? I'd like to see the original tape without differences if possible.
i think the "illuminati" (bloodlines) use the religion of demiurge to maintain their kingdom?? this is the conclusion i am being led to... prabhupada's writings have true spiritual potency and therefore I can guarantee you that they will do everything they can to distort and erase his influence from existence
If u can not see the beauty in this man then ur not an enlightened soul and u have no business being here.When a war breaks out between the awakened and the illuminati only then will the closed minded believe.
I myself was so many times a victm of prejudism by Ravindra Swarupa, but I never cared really, What I care alone is between God and Myself , this people this because they are americans they are superior, But they are equal both in Heaven and in Hell, do you think they will ever reach Goloka Vrndavana with all this politics ? or even You ? Who cares ???
Why waste so much time messing up with this talking of killing ? By the way are you a materialist ? I don't care if he was killed or not, if these Gurus are for real or for Lie, I don't give a shit about that, what I care about is that Sankirtan moviment is not a property of no one, it doesn't matter all this subject of poisoning, what couts is that you are on your own when you die.
Yes - all ISKCON gurus are bogus , i am no ritivk , but yes they are bogus , hogs and dogs , like jayapataka and charu , every single iskcon guru is bogus and not qualified to give diksha , none of them , the dogs
man wtf was that part when they said n]put the poison in the milk is that real or added in cause he went into paranoia state straight away as thatt was said!? is he daed or waht? i was just youetubine this guy and findig out abt him he was cool i was saying on anther page how i want to have a 1 on 1 discussion wiht this guy!!? then i come stumble across this page....WTF WTF WTF these reptilian huggin, demon socksuckin whores need to stop this shit...this dude,mj ,tupac , jfk,how many more?
No wonder, he was recruiting hippies and attempting to shutdown slaughter house. Do you know how much money down the drain if this philosophy was applied?
The illuminati's last enemies on this planet are USA Middle Class.
They have already destroyed Europe and Japanese Middle Class, and they are almost done with the USA Middle Class as they are engineering the collapse of the economy.
if someone takes just one part of those videos just think that Iskcon are a bunch of idiots or criminal rascals, but this is not the truth, most of them are sencere and able to present the knwoledge from the Prabhupada's books.
If YOU "MUKUNDA108" are trying to expose someone that you know in special please point that one or else just post videos that can help the `Prabhupada's mission...
Now we all know the illuminati control the media and the music industry. A way to drain everything out of your sub-conscious is by reading, clear your mind or keep yourself busy. There are alot of things we can do to grow spiritually. We need to let go of these earthly possesions whether they be physical, mental, or even emotional.
the bad guys in charge of the guys in the white house. the guys running your news stations. the guys running your banks. the guys putting flouride in our drinking water. the guys behind the curtain who use our government officials such as the president and vice president like puppets. they make you worry about the economy, when you should really be learning about the stuff that they do in confidential conferences. this is what the ILLUMINATI IS.
@burningmanheartbeat a word to you about fluoride... its no longer.. the new toxin is out... chlorine.... to bleach our water and kill bacteria.. calcify your pineal gland ensuring the release of trytophan or the serotonin and dmt base.. the spiritual and emotional hormone .. making a great desensitized slave im happy you see the truth my brother together we can unite
Theres a fight outhere between light and darkness going on right under our noses and we cant see it.... we just cant see it because the interior light inside us its blocked by this system surrounding us. Try to use the meditation in order to avoid enslave of your chackra points (you know like naruto stuff?) And i think this is the very first stage of realization. As soon as you get this level youll see the truth. Let me know if youi have any question about anything and ill answer it gladly.
the illuminati are a group ofwealthy and successful satan worshippers who want to controll the whole world and everyone in it. But imsure youve done your research already
There was a problem while God was creating ALL,lets call it a BUG in the Creating Computer Program, ever since God has been connecting to people like Jesus, like this man, like Mohamed, like many other to try to FIX the Bug...
God is still working on a PATCH but no definite solution yet
jesus didtn exist. look zeitgeist. but u can believe whatever u wish and thats your own reality so you are god, cuz u can make your own real world. we are just stardust. and my friend, u are right, history repeats itself - we are just slaves like in the roman empire... 2000 years and we learn nothing, just bring death and hell on earth ... and a lil elite group gets mighty and rich... we learn nothing! let your spirit rise, mankind!
Well actually that's unconfirmed..But for the most part there right.. Just there implication of Jesus not existing isen't fully true. The rules that were implied to be his aren't true because he had recited nearly NONE of it except for the people who wish to change rules to better suit them or the public they wish to control. Tyrants even.
LOL look at zeitgeist? Its more like stop watching zeitgeist. You watch 1 video and think you figured the world out, dont you? Dude zeitgeist is like nice fruit punch with a piece of turd floating in the bottom. Keep searching cause thats what you will find at the bottom of that documentary.
It shows just how powerful the Illuminati really fear people being taught by great people like Prabhupada. They know that once people spiritually awaken there laws of tyranny will end. My peace and light shine on everyone.
i am just learning about krishna consciouness. i love listening to prabhupada. if anyone would like to help me learn more about this i would appreciate it.
Many of us devotees even hare krishnas or margiis and all moralist and spiritualist people will unite when the time comes that we have to move to help our society. It doesn't mean of what ever you are or whom you are.
Our Spiritual Masters came here to teach us and Guide us and help Humanity. We should united instead of argumenting the different Philosophies of what we have. Let the illuminaties destroy. Namaskar and Haribol!
In the last stage of the spiritual master's life, the devotees of the spiritual master should take preaching activities into their own hands. In this way the spiritual master can sit down in a solitary place and render nirjana-bhajana.
You don`t have to understand the half, you have to understad the Complete and don`t say that the Complete can not be understood. Excuse my poor english but I am from the Amazonas and here we are waiting for a pure devotte for diksa.
Don't assume you know what I understand and what I don't. You don't know me at all. And I am sorry for the comment about spelling. I realized after I posted that the people commenting were surely from all over the world.
Srila rupa Goswami say in the arcana paddati that in kali yoga there in no other proces than to chant the holy names. not even the aceptance of an spiritual master, but some times appears an ACHARYA. ``Tellme were is not maya to go there.´´ Srila Prabhupada.
Just have faith that krsna will send your Guru. How is it possible that he will not send.
If your faith is pure and you do not want to cheat Krsna then he will send His Pure Devotee. If you want to cheat Him then He will send you to ISKCON.
The guru is Srila Prabhupada, the bonafide spiritual master, the autorized, the acharya. Not to follow the the body of Srilla Prabhupad but what he represents. In This case Bhaktisiddhanta Said: I have not disciples I only have gurus.
The end of all this movie is that we dont fall in rajas or tamas. If your guru devotte pure say the same ther is no problem. But if your guru say lets follow Srila Prabhupad them we are brothers. Or maybe you want to do another GBC.
@gettuff2 A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga. C.C. MADIA I-220 P.
@gourasundara To understand if a guru is on the right path first you will see, feel and hear that he is brimming with sweetness. How is it possible for one who represents Sri Radha to be anything but sweet.
1 He will be full of knowledge; Means you won't have to wait for an answer,2 He will be a great devotee of Radha Krsna and will teach others to be the same. 3 He will be realized in his relationship with the Supreme. 4 and he will be free from attachment to this world and things of it.
@TamalKrsnaThe International Society for Kali Condisciples problem is not just about a pastor in the role of Jesus (apart from the insignificant comparison) but a fox on the role of Srila Prabhupada. When Jews asked Jesus: “So you’re the son of God?” Jesus said. “Yes” “We too.” They said. And Jesus said, “No, you are sons of your father the devil.” Any resemblance to current events is purely coincidental.
@TamalKrsna Srila Prabhupada is still alive in all of his temples around the world with full spiritual conscience and for the next 10000 years. The vedic concept of temple is not an institution but a family tradition for generations. The institution that Srila Prabhupada wants is that every one make of his home a temple.
@gettuff2 CC. MADIA 1-220 P. A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga.
The comment was for Gorsundara. If we think there are no more pure devotees in our line then we are no better than christians who say Jesus is the only way but we can never be perfect. They have obviously never read the bible for themselves and same with the likes of Gorsundara. All instructions are there in Prabhupadas books; "you must seek out a pure devotee and surrender unto Him". I Prabhupada says you need to find out a pure devotee then there MUST be other pure devotees around..
I agree that those who atempted to poison SP are demons, no question. But one who thinks a Pure devotee can be killed is also a demon. Like Prahlada offered the poison to Krsna and it had no effect , same with Prabhupada. He wanted to leave so that others could continue the glorious mission of Sri Chaitanya, speading the conception of manjari bhava and the Holy Name.
I'm certainly not brain dead nor do I follow any institutionalized so called religion, only parampara.
Dear brother acept mi obeisences, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta says: ``Chant Hare Krishna Loudly, this is my iniciation.´´ he took sannyas initiation from a picture of his guru. we dont have to follow the body of the guru but his instruccions. regards Haribol.
If you don't follow his body how can you say you are following at all. Unless you think there is some difference between his body and soul.
Siddhanta Sarasvati was Siddha Purusha. If you are Siddha purusha you can take sanyass from a picture otherwise you should follow the principles of sad achar. To say SP is the only way is an insult to the Gaudia Vaishnava lineage. Everyone needs Guru. Krsna took, Chaitanya took and all of our Acharyas took.
I think you don't understand what is Pure devotee. Who is the authority for those who are unalloyed in their love for Radha and Krsna? Their Diksha or their Siksha Guru? Can a person attain to Prema bhakti without Siksha Guru? Can a person who has Prema Bhakti be anything other than Acharya?
You may want to advance to Madhyam adhikar because kanista is unable to see Vaishnava, who are nothing but the mercy of Sri Radha. To do that you will need association with Madhyam adhikaris.
Perhaps you should read an important book too. It is Bhagavad Gita As It Is translated by one of the Acharyas in our line; Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. It informs the misguided souls that their precarious position in this material world is due to identification with the machine called the material body and how they are nothing but an infintesimal spiritual being under the control of this gigantic material energy. Thus they r bewildered into thinking they r substantial and in control.
So we are in agreement that the only thing needed for perfection of one's existence is the Ever Alive Teachings of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada (who is ever living.)
Yes, for now thats ok but as you progress you will see that you need the guidence of Guru.
The process is not mechanical. Just by reading you will not get the desired result, however if you read with faith that Krsna will send someone to guide you personally, then it may be that Guru will come to you. You cannot force your way into the spiritual realm. It is a matter of being qualified and introduced.
If you have faith in Srila Prabhupada without meeting Him then why can't you have faith in-
Some other person who is cent percent engaged in his or her loving relationship with Radha Krsna.If you cant have faith in others that Krsna sends then what type of faith do you have in Krsna?
By reading Prabhupads books then you must come to the conclusion that you need a living Guru. Guru padashraya is the root of bhakti , can you get that out of a book you read with your polluted mind? You become like those you associate with, if you do not associate with a pure devotee how will you become 1
Scripture, of which Srila Prabhupadas books are certainly part fo , are written in samadhi bhasya. They can only be understood by one who is in samadhi. You cannot advance without advanced association then how will you understand Srila Prabhupadas books. they are not ordinary books with finite descriptions, they are unlimited and out of the perview of the material mind and intellect.
Our Guru Parampara has been giong on since time immemorial, do you want to stop it because you don't understand?
So the first point of the Gita is that the body is a dead machine and is never living and all problems come from that mis-identification.But somehow the conclusion is that you can't advance unless you follow someone in a body that is present before you.And you should read Bhagavad-gita As It Is,but really Prabhupada wasted his time, because you have find someone in a body present before you to explain it.
We never FIND anything. Guru is the personified grace of Sri Krsna. If you desire in the core of your heart that you want to know who you realy are and what it is should be doing, then Krsna will send His pure representative.
This concept that I don't need shelter is the very core of our suffering. "I am so great that I will get to Krsna Loka all on my own.
Do you know the story of Siva.
He wanted so much to serve Radha Krsna in the kunjas of Vrndavana.
After much begging he was plunged into a kund by Purnamasi. When he came out he had the body of a gopi. He then went to witness the Rasa Dance and stood on the outskirts looking in. Krsna said "I am not feeling my usual extacy, what is the reason? The Gopis replied that they also were not feeling extatic. Krsna asked, is there some unqualifed person amongst us. The gopis then searched and found Siva(gopi) and began to question her; where are you from? what villiage did you come from?
who is your husband an who are your parents. Siva was unable to answer any of these questions and so the gopis began to chastise her, calling her names and slapping her on the cheeks. At this point Siva got the realization that it is not possible to enter into Sri Krsnas' pastimes even if one has the appropriate body.
All the auto-called pure devotee dont follow or prech the principles or the chant of rounds not even say the word Krishna only say Kiss-na.
Apart of Srila Prabhupad there are only cheaters.
Cristians say there is only Jesus to save the sins no other can say i am the guru. Is so easy to say there are the books and the movement of Srila Prabhupada and surrender to me i am the new acharya.
Srila Prabhupada wanted that iskcon be like the Rama Krishna mision were Rama Krishna is the acharya.
I'm sorry but are you saying that SP wanted ISKCON to be like the murgy mission?
Srila Prabhupad did not start this mission. It is the desire of Sri Chaitanya and therefore Hari das Thakura, Raya Ramananda, Swarup Damodara,Rupa, Sanatana, Krsna das Kaviraja, Narrotama Thakur, Vishvanatha Cakravati,Baladeva Vidyabhusan, Krnsa das Babaji, Vhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura Kisora das Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Bhakti Prajnan Kesava,
Srila Prabhupada is the Achary for the International Society For Krsna Consciousness, which is an instituion. The desire to fulfill the mission of Sri Chaitanya is the root cause and is not found in an institution but in the hearts of the Great Souls in our line. If you continue to pose Srila Prabhupada as the only Achary for the modern age then you commit the mistake of over extension and therefore jeopardise the meaning of advancement. If what you say is true then you cannot become an Uttama.
"Gentlemen, the offering of such an homage as has been arranged this evening to the acaryadeva is not a sectarian concern, for when we speak of the fundamental principle of gurudeva or acaryadeva, we speak of something that is of universal application. There does not arise any question of discrirninating my guru from yours or anyone else's."
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura - The Harmonist 1936
Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says that such a pseudo-Vaisnava is not a Vaisnava at all, but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A disciple of Kali cannot become an acarya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaisnava acarya. A Vaisnava acarya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgement.
(spiritual master authorized) should not be displaced by the decision of any court in particular, witch decide to draw a volunteer to force, to use His work to his personal benefit, without being considered a rough case of imitation, as if were an museum article.
If you look for faults in this Kali yuga you will find no limit, it is an ocean of faults. Try to understand how rare the opportunity to take to Krsna consciousness is and immerse yourself in the good that is there. Try and stay positive,,don't be weak.. Hari bol.
Almost all the disciples of Srila Prabhupad wre iniciated by ritu,. and not assume that this should change. Prabhupad is not and institution he is the jagat guru.
"I wish that each and every Branch shall keep their independent identity and cooperate keeping the Acarya in the centre. On this principle we can open any number of Branches all over the world. The Ramakrishna mission works on this principle and thus as organization they have done wonderfully."SPletter to Kirtanananda 67-02-11
In a nutshell here is what I witnessed: On July 5th 1977 I was attending to Srila Prabhupada in his garden in Sri Vrindavan Dham. The secretary, Tamal Krsna Maharaja was reading letters from some of the temples asking for initiations for some of the devotees. Srila Prabhupada said, Tomorrow I will appoint some ritvik acharyas who will initiate disciples on my behalf when I leave the planet. Gauridas Pandit Das
GBC considers even the most highly offensive to give the harimam initiation to a bhakta in the name of Srila Prabhupada, because according to them would be to blaspheme the Acharya already dead and gone.
Certainly the ghosts are offended when one chant Hare Krishna, but happens that this is not about a ghost.
In the formula that if: (A = B), (B = C) What is the value of the devotee C if A=1 and B=1 where the absolute value of the unit (1) is permanent, always the same and never changes? It is assumed that we must all become pure devotees acaryas (=1).
The organization is that you be over the control of the senses and not under. Lord Krishna and His devotees ar over the control of the senses, "Hrisikesa." Srila Prabhupad said: "If you follow the 4 principles and chant the 16 rounds I considere you as my disciple formaly iniciated.
The GBC of ISKCON as executives of devotion implements the rituik sistem to give contradictory The Order of Guru as Representative of the Supreme Personality of God, Krishna, God in the earthly world, assuming the name of Srila Prabhupada, to move from His position of spiritual master authorized.
"Unfortunately in this age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has described them a disciples of Kali. He says, Kali-cela, he indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudo-Vaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kunti beads around his neck. Such a pseudo-Vaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava.
Srila Prabhupada and Krsna want everyone to become Uttama Adhikari not just Madhyam. In this transendental science you want to make progress without the shelter of Sri Guru. How is that possible? You will have to surrender to a pure devotee. If you don't understand that then you should read the books of the acaryas esp Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur. It is absolutely impossible to progress without Guru and preferrable Guru should be Sri or Sat or Uttama. Read this verse from SB; isvara tad adhinesu.
The first think is: who inherited his fortune?
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@Frenzy5891 there is somenthing more terrible. While posting these tapes'about S.P. Poisoning someone answered to me 'is not important' 'to me these is irrilevant'. What kind of persons are that? How can i consider them devotees? The meat eaters are not so insensitive. Why the so called devotees can even think such expression? I'm really scary about these persons. I think they are worst than S.S.
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@Frenzy5891 there is somenthing more terrible. While posting these tapes'about S.P. Poisoning someone answered to me 'is not important' 'to me these is irrilevant'. What kind of persons are that? How can i consider them devotees? The meat eaters are not so insensitive. Why the so called devotees can even think such expression? I'm really scary about these persons. I think they are worst than S.S.
RosalbaRukminiRamana 2 weeks ago
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The CIA and the racist western secret organizations conspire and murdered this great soul. They felt his spiritual movement (non-evangelical) was spreading like wildfire all over the world and poses a danger to their corrupt political, cultural and organized religious system. These satanic dogs planted child molesters and murderers in PRABHUPADAS movement to blemish his good name and take over and destroy the Hare Krisna movement.
brucaX10 8 months ago
He heard them! but could do nothing...
Darkdemonoflite 8 months ago
The only argument now should be: Who has done this poisoning?
Hmm, well who has spent their lives trying to hide & deny the tape?
The GBC. Every "guru" in power to this day. That's who.
These are simply facts and logic. Which leaves me to conclude: if you are a disciple of one of these "guru's", you have either been brainwashed with fear from investigating the matter, or you have a mental disorder. or just a combination of both. which is very unfortunate indeed.
frenzy5891 9 months ago
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What i don't get is how people could simply turn a blind eye on the poison tape. no matter what side you're on, it is an irrefutable argument. SP says he is being poisoned. what more do you want? SP is a pure devotee. pure devotee's have their senses controlled DIRECTLY from Sri Krsna himself. when such a pure devotee makes a statement, you can bet your life 10 times over that that statement is 110% credible.
frenzy5891 9 months ago
No one can kill such a powerful personality....he is a saktyavesha...buddha is saktyavesha, he sat unde the tree and maya attacked him and even death personified but he defeated them. similarly Prabhupada is like that. he is regarded more superior to buddha in some cases...so how can someone kill him....this video made me laugh
21jivencool 10 months ago 2
Everything happens for a reason.
lCraftyl 10 months ago
So, the supposed "killers" of Srila Prabhupada, whispered directly into the microphone about their poisoning plot? More like those over-dubbing onto the original recording did. Shame on you all for assisting in tearing down the great house Prabhupada built for us all! Many who lead are far from perfect, but the only real poison being distributed is yours!
claudius4th 11 months ago
@claudius4th Using modern technology the background sounds have been enhanced, thus revealing the hidden whispers.
RALPHLAURINO 11 months ago 4
Could some one take the time to Actually Give me a little bit of info about this man?
TagzBloody 11 months ago
sick bastards, we need 2 all come together.......... but how
guitarman4818 1 year ago
Fucking Guru-Killers.Krsna kill ya ,all of you ,one after another.Fucking seck.Lord Nrsmhadev please kill all this fucking Guru murderers one after another.Tava kara kamala vare nakham Adbhuta Simham.Dalita Hitanyakasipu tanu bhringam.Kesiava drita Narahari Rupa.Jaya Jagadisia Hare Jaya Jagadisia Hare Jaya Jagadisia Hare.Jaya Nrsimhadev.Jaya Prahlad Maharaja.Jaya Prabhupada.Jaya Prabhupada.JayaPrabhupada!!!.
simek66 1 year ago
@simek66 let also hanuman kill so called called Iluminati who came to manipulate to control,kill,exploit,mentally rape and kill saints(sadhus)they need to be terminated asap. they hide in vaishnava dress. they was sent by US goverment.Obama is their puppet Rockefeller family controls everything .SO Kalki please smash them now!
VrindavaniDeviDasi 1 year ago
WWTFF??!!
jomesias 1 year ago
illuminati, the illuminated ones... how can their path truly Illuminate if they never spread truth?
TheBeastKing22 1 year ago
The White man has no Soul nor Spirit. He was born recessive without a soul so thus travelled far to purchase, and if he cannot buy, he Steals, and if he cannot steal, he Destroys. So were the outcome of many of Natural indigenous people of Planet Earth by the evil hand of the Recessive whites. Now we are facing endangered Planet!
What a shame that this Holy Man who ventured out to help the wicked Soul-Less Recessives, and then they killed him.
Wherever the White man went, Evil follows.
MrJay429 1 year ago
@MrJay429 by puting a comment you are showing that you are no less racist than the kkk, and if you new your history youd know that the "white man" evolved from the "black man" when they left africa hundreds of thousands of years ago as did every other race of man did, so that would mean we all dont have souls, including watever race you are
unluckynutter 1 year ago
@unluckynutter this is not true at all and cannot base your thesis on what the scientests tell you or that the oldest fossil to date was found in africa.this does not mean the first person that ever lived was african there is no proof of this.all these races were here at the same time they did not migrate and there environment give them slanted eyes or the sun give them black skin we are all from the image of God's human species
fedreserve 1 year ago
@fedreserve so acording to you we all just suddenly appeared one day, instead of evolving from apes that lived in africa, humans are just a type of ape u idiot, only thing is we became smarter than every other animal and because of this nolonger classed ourselfs as animals, and when we invented god we decided that he made us in his image, dosnt mean its true , and u say theres no proof to my theory....theres alot more proof than yours.
unluckynutter 1 year ago
@unluckynutter actually our dna is linked more closely to dolphins than it is of apes why would we invent God? then who invented us and who invented the planets? actually quantum physics and the scientific numbers proves there is a God. If this is what you believe than cool, your life is meaningles my life on the otherhand has very much meaning and i have close relationship with God what you say cannot change factual evidence from not being true, im still glad you only evolved from a rock moron
fedreserve 1 year ago
@fedreserve LMAO there are soo many things wrong with wat u just put , for a start we share somthing like 99.8% percent of our DNA with chimpanzies so i doubt that dolphins are more closely linked, people invent gods for somthing to belive in and to convince themselfs there is somthing affter death and knowone invented us because we evolved, and no my life is not meaningles, im not restricted by some stupid religion so i am able to spend my time on earth how i want to.
unluckynutter 1 year ago
@fedreserve is that what your freemason scientists told you?yea your full of it piss off
fedreserve 1 year ago
@unluckynutter Did i hit a soft spot? Well sorry to burst your false sense of security further but i suggest you brush up on your "historical facts". Origins of Melanin, go look it up.
MrJay429 1 year ago
@MrJay429 lol....so dumb. It has zero to do with the white man and everything to do with evil people, white or not. Evil knows no race. It just is.
getagripcanada 1 year ago 2
all great people and great leaders are purposely terminated by the Illuminati, nor anybody who may not adhere to their agenda. Collecting data through free use of internet like FB is another form of instrument to trace their detractors.
yumiko151 1 year ago
The CIA and the racist western secret organizations conspire and murdered the great soul- PRABHUPADA. They felt his (non-evangelical)spiritual movement was spreading like wildfire all over the world that poses a danger to their political, cultural and religious system. These satanic dogs planted child molesters and murderers in PRABHUPADAS movement to blemish his good name and take over and destroy the Hare Krisna organization
brucaX10 1 year ago
Why is that person rubbing his head like that? That sure doesn't look comfortable to me
makeydah 1 year ago
WOW I THINK PRABHUPADA HEARD IT!!
LOOK AT HIM WHEN THE GUY SAYS "IS THE POISON IN THE MILK?"
wow this man is amazing, he reminds me of Ghandi(probably because of the baldness :P)
darkfox003 1 year ago
did they got sentenced for that murder ? if this is caught on tape the evidence is there should be no problem to prosecute them.
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108 they are the worlds largest cult, presidents, royals, and prime ministers are influenced by them, i think they should be able to get out of anything, no matter what they do...
frowgli1 1 year ago
Prabhupada never die, exept him body.
i hate illuminati....
juodukea007 1 year ago 2
Babylon is a beast and it is trying to keep us from realizing God-consciousness. They will kill our prophets until the darkest hour is over.
InfinityAndMirror 1 year ago
@fungusamogus who is this and i heard them talk about how they poisned him.
TheMh786 1 year ago
Jai Srila Prabhupada
Jai Sri Krishna
sellelpoc 1 year ago
ONLY YOU! Dear Srila Prabhupada! Jagad Guru Srila Prabhupada Patita Pavana!
There is no other way than to worship the Acarya! Acaryopasanam! ISKCON Founder and the only Acarya, Srila Prabhupada, ki, jay!
jagaddhartadasa 1 year ago
have nothing will clash. long live peace, dont forget to smile. once we stand up and say we are not going to be apart of this any longer because WE are YOUR meal tickets then we are getting some where, there is a reason why america wants pot heads locked up and grown ass men that have sex with lil kids get months or probation. in my eyes we are nothing but lab rats. War screams into the world all day every day, people cant love one another, no respect for your fellow man.
james johnson MIZZ
kabol69 1 year ago
this may be off subject but, iam from missouri and i am a black man, its hard finding your true way here in america cause of all the bs, down here we have something called "scwaggstock" (CAMP ZOE BABY FOR LIFE!) but its what its what every single person at woodstock felt, we are tired of it, people dying, losing you houses and for what the rich to keep getting richer and poor staying poor and dying off. i came to understand that it will be until all the people that have it all and the ones who
kabol69 1 year ago
Hm, I've searched around and read some books ..but still I don't understand, what did this man do, that made him such a high priority target for The Illuminati?
GuitarTKD 1 year ago
was that for real or what. sounded fake because of the sound change, or did you just turn it up to let us hear it? I'd like to see the original tape without differences if possible.
411smiths 1 year ago
who was he can some one tell me
TheMh786 1 year ago
i think the "illuminati" (bloodlines) use the religion of demiurge to maintain their kingdom?? this is the conclusion i am being led to... prabhupada's writings have true spiritual potency and therefore I can guarantee you that they will do everything they can to distort and erase his influence from existence
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
If u can not see the beauty in this man then ur not an enlightened soul and u have no business being here.When a war breaks out between the awakened and the illuminati only then will the closed minded believe.
StartARevoultion 1 year ago
sad times...
KannabisChris 1 year ago
I myself was so many times a victm of prejudism by Ravindra Swarupa, but I never cared really, What I care alone is between God and Myself , this people this because they are americans they are superior, But they are equal both in Heaven and in Hell, do you think they will ever reach Goloka Vrndavana with all this politics ? or even You ? Who cares ???
vixbrasil 1 year ago
Why waste so much time messing up with this talking of killing ? By the way are you a materialist ? I don't care if he was killed or not, if these Gurus are for real or for Lie, I don't give a shit about that, what I care about is that Sankirtan moviment is not a property of no one, it doesn't matter all this subject of poisoning, what couts is that you are on your own when you die.
vixbrasil 1 year ago
Yes - all ISKCON gurus are bogus , i am no ritivk , but yes they are bogus , hogs and dogs , like jayapataka and charu , every single iskcon guru is bogus and not qualified to give diksha , none of them , the dogs
Kesavaya 2 years ago
OMG! Horrible!
Riv3rQu33n 2 years ago
KoolDa1 Are u Racist? I am black 42 years and still drinking milk. My mon is 72years and still drinking milk poor theroy.
lizzy10167257 2 years ago 2
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edrubangura 2 years ago
man wtf was that part when they said n]put the poison in the milk is that real or added in cause he went into paranoia state straight away as thatt was said!? is he daed or waht? i was just youetubine this guy and findig out abt him he was cool i was saying on anther page how i want to have a 1 on 1 discussion wiht this guy!!? then i come stumble across this page....WTF WTF WTF these reptilian huggin, demon socksuckin whores need to stop this shit...this dude,mj ,tupac , jfk,how many more?
tiggakayz 2 years ago 4
No wonder, he was recruiting hippies and attempting to shutdown slaughter house. Do you know how much money down the drain if this philosophy was applied?
musta been CIA or Mossad again...
MyWordizBond 2 years ago
The illuminati's last enemies on this planet are USA Middle Class.
They have already destroyed Europe and Japanese Middle Class, and they are almost done with the USA Middle Class as they are engineering the collapse of the economy.
Time to wake up!
edrubangura 2 years ago
he died in 1977...
bigspliffs 2 years ago
Milk does different things to the Black body then from white .
You can even research this on google and certain
Black health books .
If you ask around, you'll find that most black people are lactose intolerant in which means that it will harm those who ignore that .
The same glue that holds couches together ( literally ) is in milk as well .
Most foods are poisoned today .
There's more where that came from .
KoolDa1 2 years ago
Já sabia só não queria acreditar...
mlsplendore 2 years ago
if someone takes just one part of those videos just think that Iskcon are a bunch of idiots or criminal rascals, but this is not the truth, most of them are sencere and able to present the knwoledge from the Prabhupada's books.
If YOU "MUKUNDA108" are trying to expose someone that you know in special please point that one or else just post videos that can help the `Prabhupada's mission...
baktabrazil108 2 years ago
acredito que esta é uma grande ajuda a missão de SS.S.Prabhupada.
ajuda á nós (nitya bhada) a sabermos
qual caminho devemos pegar para chegar á Krishna.
Ninguem deve ser enganado!
mlsplendore 2 years ago
@baktabrazil108 Thank You, Hare Krsna, this stuff is nonsense!
Krsna93 2 years ago
Now we all know the illuminati control the media and the music industry. A way to drain everything out of your sub-conscious is by reading, clear your mind or keep yourself busy. There are alot of things we can do to grow spiritually. We need to let go of these earthly possesions whether they be physical, mental, or even emotional.
naposi 2 years ago
search for " the arrivals " here in youtube
OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE
Deidaaraartisabang 2 years ago 3
can some one tell me what the ILLUMINTI IS im only 14 please tell me
YourMomisZero 2 years ago
what's ur email address and i will tell you everything.
aoarex 2 years ago 2
the bad guys in charge of the guys in the white house. the guys running your news stations. the guys running your banks. the guys putting flouride in our drinking water. the guys behind the curtain who use our government officials such as the president and vice president like puppets. they make you worry about the economy, when you should really be learning about the stuff that they do in confidential conferences. this is what the ILLUMINATI IS.
burningmanheartbeat 2 years ago 18
@burningmanheartbeat a word to you about fluoride... its no longer.. the new toxin is out... chlorine.... to bleach our water and kill bacteria.. calcify your pineal gland ensuring the release of trytophan or the serotonin and dmt base.. the spiritual and emotional hormone .. making a great desensitized slave im happy you see the truth my brother together we can unite
dennisvic87 1 year ago
Theres a fight outhere between light and darkness going on right under our noses and we cant see it.... we just cant see it because the interior light inside us its blocked by this system surrounding us. Try to use the meditation in order to avoid enslave of your chackra points (you know like naruto stuff?) And i think this is the very first stage of realization. As soon as you get this level youll see the truth. Let me know if youi have any question about anything and ill answer it gladly.
johannlp 2 years ago
the illuminati are a group ofwealthy and successful satan worshippers who want to controll the whole world and everyone in it. But imsure youve done your research already
evilscotsman88 2 years ago 2
HARE KRISHNA. i am utterly shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jayapataka and Bhakti Caru always visit our yatra...........i mean WHY...did they do this?
signeduplate 2 years ago
THEY R ILLUMINTI
youngpac13 2 years ago
yes they are such dogs , go to gaudiyat math and take diksha from a pure mahabhagavat , there is none in iskcon since gour govind swami.
Kesavaya 2 years ago
There was a problem while God was creating ALL,lets call it a BUG in the Creating Computer Program, ever since God has been connecting to people like Jesus, like this man, like Mohamed, like many other to try to FIX the Bug...
God is still working on a PATCH but no definite solution yet
arapallo 2 years ago
@arapallo Not true! Krsna-consciousness is Always the Solution and anyone thinks the Guru can be Killed they are in Maya!
Krsna93 2 years ago
History repeats itself. Jesus was crucified, Mahatma Ghandi was shot, even Martin Luther King was assassinated.
Trinisoul21 2 years ago 3
jesus didtn exist. look zeitgeist. but u can believe whatever u wish and thats your own reality so you are god, cuz u can make your own real world. we are just stardust. and my friend, u are right, history repeats itself - we are just slaves like in the roman empire... 2000 years and we learn nothing, just bring death and hell on earth ... and a lil elite group gets mighty and rich... we learn nothing! let your spirit rise, mankind!
DieDicken 2 years ago
Google zeitgeist debunked. Zeitgeist is full of misrepresentations and outright lies.
clutch1245 2 years ago 2
Well actually that's unconfirmed..But for the most part there right.. Just there implication of Jesus not existing isen't fully true. The rules that were implied to be his aren't true because he had recited nearly NONE of it except for the people who wish to change rules to better suit them or the public they wish to control. Tyrants even.
dardonZ 2 years ago 2
LOL look at zeitgeist? Its more like stop watching zeitgeist. You watch 1 video and think you figured the world out, dont you? Dude zeitgeist is like nice fruit punch with a piece of turd floating in the bottom. Keep searching cause thats what you will find at the bottom of that documentary.
notleftbehind 2 years ago 2
It shows just how powerful the Illuminati really fear people being taught by great people like Prabhupada. They know that once people spiritually awaken there laws of tyranny will end. My peace and light shine on everyone.
Agui007 2 years ago 36
@Agui007 do you know where one can find his books?
tissetatten 1 year ago
@tissetatten I'm not sure to be honest, but I could look it up up for you if you like?
Agui007 1 year ago
@Agui007 no thats ok, i descoverd that I can download audio books, with his leactures. :)
tissetatten 1 year ago
my heart sinks... :(
kingkongpingpongdong 2 years ago 3
damn they re so clever
SmokeUndSo 2 years ago
Sad
brascal530 2 years ago 4
i am just learning about krishna consciouness. i love listening to prabhupada. if anyone would like to help me learn more about this i would appreciate it.
refinnej83jennifer 2 years ago 2
Hare krsna, Hare krsna, krisna krisna, hare hare, Hare rama Hare rama, Rama rama, Hare Hare.
Always x
MrFreedomofSpeach 2 years ago
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anadali 2 years ago
WOW being that wise people have to poison you. THATS SAD!!!!
AyoJosh239 2 years ago 2
namaskar! Baba Nam Kevalam!
Haribol!
Many of us devotees even hare krishnas or margiis and all moralist and spiritualist people will unite when the time comes that we have to move to help our society. It doesn't mean of what ever you are or whom you are.
Our Spiritual Masters came here to teach us and Guide us and help Humanity. We should united instead of argumenting the different Philosophies of what we have. Let the illuminaties destroy. Namaskar and Haribol!
Jai Baba!
Jai Srila Prabhupada!
shantot06 2 years ago
In the last stage of the spiritual master's life, the devotees of the spiritual master should take preaching activities into their own hands. In this way the spiritual master can sit down in a solitary place and render nirjana-bhajana.
SB 4.28.33 P
bhakti24 2 years ago
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funkyskj 2 years ago
So why don't you take some poison and go now.
RALPHLAURINO 2 years ago
after they whispered that, he moved and shited his eyes. He heard it, but obviously death does not affect him mentally.
Bl1nd420 2 years ago
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namaskar!
I would like to say FUCK YOU and YOU BASTARD who gave and poisoned Srila Prabhupada. You will see the Karma of what did you do!
Moralist and Spiritual people will remained and no one can destroy it!
Baba Nam Kevalam
shantot06 2 years ago
So which of his followers did it?
or did he say kill him via poison?
I don't get this video
Joeki11a 2 years ago
I wish people commenting here would learn how to spell and use proper grammar. i can't understand what half these comments are saying.
karamid 2 years ago
You don`t have to understand the half, you have to understad the Complete and don`t say that the Complete can not be understood. Excuse my poor english but I am from the Amazonas and here we are waiting for a pure devotte for diksa.
gorsundar 2 years ago
Don't assume you know what I understand and what I don't. You don't know me at all. And I am sorry for the comment about spelling. I realized after I posted that the people commenting were surely from all over the world.
karamid 2 years ago
thank you very much for your comment seems to me a very nice person
gorsundar 2 years ago
The Complete is Krishna
gorsundar 2 years ago
Srila rupa Goswami say in the arcana paddati that in kali yoga there in no other proces than to chant the holy names. not even the aceptance of an spiritual master, but some times appears an ACHARYA. ``Tellme were is not maya to go there.´´ Srila Prabhupada.
gorsundara 2 years ago
Just have faith that krsna will send your Guru. How is it possible that he will not send.
If your faith is pure and you do not want to cheat Krsna then he will send His Pure Devotee. If you want to cheat Him then He will send you to ISKCON.
gettuff2 2 years ago
The guru is Srila Prabhupada, the bonafide spiritual master, the autorized, the acharya. Not to follow the the body of Srilla Prabhupad but what he represents. In This case Bhaktisiddhanta Said: I have not disciples I only have gurus.
gorsundar 2 years ago
The end of all this movie is that we dont fall in rajas or tamas. If your guru devotte pure say the same ther is no problem. But if your guru say lets follow Srila Prabhupad them we are brothers. Or maybe you want to do another GBC.
gorsundara 2 years ago
Then we are brothers.
gettuff2 2 years ago
@gettuff2 A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga. C.C. MADIA I-220 P.
gourasundara 1 year ago
@gourasundara To understand if a guru is on the right path first you will see, feel and hear that he is brimming with sweetness. How is it possible for one who represents Sri Radha to be anything but sweet.
1 He will be full of knowledge; Means you won't have to wait for an answer,2 He will be a great devotee of Radha Krsna and will teach others to be the same. 3 He will be realized in his relationship with the Supreme. 4 and he will be free from attachment to this world and things of it.
TamalKrsna 1 year ago
@TamalKrsna And he is Srila Prabhupada.
gorsundara 1 year ago
@gorsundara He and so many other elevated Vaishnavas. It is an offence to think that Krsna will stop sending his representatives.
TamalKrsna 1 year ago
@TamalKrsnaThe International Society for Kali Condisciples problem is not just about a pastor in the role of Jesus (apart from the insignificant comparison) but a fox on the role of Srila Prabhupada. When Jews asked Jesus: “So you’re the son of God?” Jesus said. “Yes” “We too.” They said. And Jesus said, “No, you are sons of your father the devil.” Any resemblance to current events is purely coincidental.
gorsundara 1 year ago
@TamalKrsna Srila Prabhupada is still alive in all of his temples around the world with full spiritual conscience and for the next 10000 years. The vedic concept of temple is not an institution but a family tradition for generations. The institution that Srila Prabhupada wants is that every one make of his home a temple.
gorsundara 1 year ago
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@gettuff2 CC. MADIA 1-220 P. A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga.
gourasundara 1 year ago
those bastards
TopAce777 3 years ago
wow!!! how sad...
you can't trust anyone....
IntelligentCreature 3 years ago
SRILA PRABHUPADA IS THE ONLY ONE ACHARYA ( BONAFIDE SPIRITUAL MASTER) anyway.
gorsundara 3 years ago
So now we become like Christians and give up our Parampara?
gettuff2 3 years ago
The murders of Prabhupada aren't the parampara.Why can't you understand that?Are you a brain dead cult demon?
RALPHLAURINO 3 years ago
The comment was for Gorsundara. If we think there are no more pure devotees in our line then we are no better than christians who say Jesus is the only way but we can never be perfect. They have obviously never read the bible for themselves and same with the likes of Gorsundara. All instructions are there in Prabhupadas books; "you must seek out a pure devotee and surrender unto Him". I Prabhupada says you need to find out a pure devotee then there MUST be other pure devotees around..
gettuff2 3 years ago
Typo. "If Prabhupada".
I agree that those who atempted to poison SP are demons, no question. But one who thinks a Pure devotee can be killed is also a demon. Like Prahlada offered the poison to Krsna and it had no effect , same with Prabhupada. He wanted to leave so that others could continue the glorious mission of Sri Chaitanya, speading the conception of manjari bhava and the Holy Name.
I'm certainly not brain dead nor do I follow any institutionalized so called religion, only parampara.
gettuff2 3 years ago
Dear brother acept mi obeisences, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta says: ``Chant Hare Krishna Loudly, this is my iniciation.´´ he took sannyas initiation from a picture of his guru. we dont have to follow the body of the guru but his instruccions. regards Haribol.
gorsundar 3 years ago
If you don't follow his body how can you say you are following at all. Unless you think there is some difference between his body and soul.
Siddhanta Sarasvati was Siddha Purusha. If you are Siddha purusha you can take sanyass from a picture otherwise you should follow the principles of sad achar. To say SP is the only way is an insult to the Gaudia Vaishnava lineage. Everyone needs Guru. Krsna took, Chaitanya took and all of our Acharyas took.
gettuff2 3 years ago
They ALL took siksha and diksa from someone or other, that is the process. Anything else is simply a disturbance..
gettuff2 3 years ago
pure devotee dosent means necesary autorized. Acharya means autorized. there is no other acharya than Srila Prabhupada
gorsundar 3 years ago
I think you don't understand what is Pure devotee. Who is the authority for those who are unalloyed in their love for Radha and Krsna? Their Diksha or their Siksha Guru? Can a person attain to Prema bhakti without Siksha Guru? Can a person who has Prema Bhakti be anything other than Acharya?
You may want to advance to Madhyam adhikar because kanista is unable to see Vaishnava, who are nothing but the mercy of Sri Radha. To do that you will need association with Madhyam adhikaris.
gettuff2 3 years ago
I was right. you are a brain dead cult demon.
RALPHLAURINO 3 years ago
It sounds like you have no desire to give up your false ego.
gettuff2 3 years ago
Perhaps you should read this important book.I think it will help you.
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create
an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier
RALPHLAURINO 3 years ago
Perhaps you should read an important book too. It is Bhagavad Gita As It Is translated by one of the Acharyas in our line; Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. It informs the misguided souls that their precarious position in this material world is due to identification with the machine called the material body and how they are nothing but an infintesimal spiritual being under the control of this gigantic material energy. Thus they r bewildered into thinking they r substantial and in control.
gettuff2 3 years ago
If this isn't the ultimate mind control I don't know what is...
Better you spend your time and energy in understanding your own precarious position .
gettuff2 3 years ago
So we are in agreement that the only thing needed for perfection of one's existence is the Ever Alive Teachings of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada (who is ever living.)
RALPHLAURINO 2 years ago
Yes, for now thats ok but as you progress you will see that you need the guidence of Guru.
The process is not mechanical. Just by reading you will not get the desired result, however if you read with faith that Krsna will send someone to guide you personally, then it may be that Guru will come to you. You cannot force your way into the spiritual realm. It is a matter of being qualified and introduced.
If you have faith in Srila Prabhupada without meeting Him then why can't you have faith in-
gettuff2 2 years ago
Some other person who is cent percent engaged in his or her loving relationship with Radha Krsna.If you cant have faith in others that Krsna sends then what type of faith do you have in Krsna?
By reading Prabhupads books then you must come to the conclusion that you need a living Guru. Guru padashraya is the root of bhakti , can you get that out of a book you read with your polluted mind? You become like those you associate with, if you do not associate with a pure devotee how will you become 1
gettuff2 2 years ago
Scripture, of which Srila Prabhupadas books are certainly part fo , are written in samadhi bhasya. They can only be understood by one who is in samadhi. You cannot advance without advanced association then how will you understand Srila Prabhupadas books. they are not ordinary books with finite descriptions, they are unlimited and out of the perview of the material mind and intellect.
Our Guru Parampara has been giong on since time immemorial, do you want to stop it because you don't understand?
gettuff2 2 years ago
So the first point of the Gita is that the body is a dead machine and is never living and all problems come from that mis-identification.But somehow the conclusion is that you can't advance unless you follow someone in a body that is present before you.And you should read Bhagavad-gita As It Is,but really Prabhupada wasted his time, because you have find someone in a body present before you to explain it.
RALPHLAURINO 2 years ago
We never FIND anything. Guru is the personified grace of Sri Krsna. If you desire in the core of your heart that you want to know who you realy are and what it is should be doing, then Krsna will send His pure representative.
This concept that I don't need shelter is the very core of our suffering. "I am so great that I will get to Krsna Loka all on my own.
Do you know the story of Siva.
He wanted so much to serve Radha Krsna in the kunjas of Vrndavana.
gettuff2 2 years ago
After much begging he was plunged into a kund by Purnamasi. When he came out he had the body of a gopi. He then went to witness the Rasa Dance and stood on the outskirts looking in. Krsna said "I am not feeling my usual extacy, what is the reason? The Gopis replied that they also were not feeling extatic. Krsna asked, is there some unqualifed person amongst us. The gopis then searched and found Siva(gopi) and began to question her; where are you from? what villiage did you come from?
gettuff2 2 years ago
who is your husband an who are your parents. Siva was unable to answer any of these questions and so the gopis began to chastise her, calling her names and slapping her on the cheeks. At this point Siva got the realization that it is not possible to enter into Sri Krsnas' pastimes even if one has the appropriate body.
gettuff2 2 years ago
One has to be thoroughly emersed in the mood of those who came before us, and that is not possible without their direct association.
gettuff2 2 years ago
All the auto-called pure devotee dont follow or prech the principles or the chant of rounds not even say the word Krishna only say Kiss-na.
Apart of Srila Prabhupad there are only cheaters.
Cristians say there is only Jesus to save the sins no other can say i am the guru. Is so easy to say there are the books and the movement of Srila Prabhupada and surrender to me i am the new acharya.
Srila Prabhupada wanted that iskcon be like the Rama Krishna mision were Rama Krishna is the acharya.
gourasundara 2 years ago
You cannot say ALL..
gettuff2 2 years ago
I'm sorry but are you saying that SP wanted ISKCON to be like the murgy mission?
Srila Prabhupad did not start this mission. It is the desire of Sri Chaitanya and therefore Hari das Thakura, Raya Ramananda, Swarup Damodara,Rupa, Sanatana, Krsna das Kaviraja, Narrotama Thakur, Vishvanatha Cakravati,Baladeva Vidyabhusan, Krnsa das Babaji, Vhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura Kisora das Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Bhakti Prajnan Kesava,
gettuff2 2 years ago
then to Bhaktivedanta Swami, and then to those pure Gaudi Vaishnavas who are serving the mission presently.
gettuff2 2 years ago
If we acept to Srila Prabhhupad as the acharya its not the end of the parampara or the sampradaya, there is another lines.
gorsundar 2 years ago
Srila Prabhupada is the Achary for the International Society For Krsna Consciousness, which is an instituion. The desire to fulfill the mission of Sri Chaitanya is the root cause and is not found in an institution but in the hearts of the Great Souls in our line. If you continue to pose Srila Prabhupada as the only Achary for the modern age then you commit the mistake of over extension and therefore jeopardise the meaning of advancement. If what you say is true then you cannot become an Uttama.
gettuff2 2 years ago
"Gentlemen, the offering of such an homage as has been arranged this evening to the acaryadeva is not a sectarian concern, for when we speak of the fundamental principle of gurudeva or acaryadeva, we speak of something that is of universal application. There does not arise any question of discrirninating my guru from yours or anyone else's."
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura - The Harmonist 1936
gorsundar 2 years ago
Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says that such a pseudo-Vaisnava is not a Vaisnava at all, but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A disciple of Kali cannot become an acarya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaisnava acarya. A Vaisnava acarya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgement.
gorsundar 2 years ago
(spiritual master authorized) should not be displaced by the decision of any court in particular, witch decide to draw a volunteer to force, to use His work to his personal benefit, without being considered a rough case of imitation, as if were an museum article.
gorsundara 2 years ago
In all the religions the leaders are the worst in kali yuga and the Hare Krishna is not an exception.
gorsundar 2 years ago
If you look for faults in this Kali yuga you will find no limit, it is an ocean of faults. Try to understand how rare the opportunity to take to Krsna consciousness is and immerse yourself in the good that is there. Try and stay positive,,don't be weak.. Hari bol.
gettuff2 2 years ago
"Sometimes a diksa-guru is not present always. Therefore one can take learning, instruction, from an advanced devotee. That is called the siksa-guru."
(Srila Prabhupada: lecture - Bhagavad-gita 17.1-3, Honolulu, 07/04/73)
Almost all the disciples of Srila Prabhupad wre iniciated by ritu,. and not assume that this should change. Prabhupad is not and institution he is the jagat guru.
gorsundar 2 years ago
A false acarya my try to override a Vaisnava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga."
Srila Prabhupada (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, Ch 1, 218-219)
gorsundar 2 years ago
"I wish that each and every Branch shall keep their independent identity and cooperate keeping the Acarya in the centre. On this principle we can open any number of Branches all over the world. The Ramakrishna mission works on this principle and thus as organization they have done wonderfully."SPletter to Kirtanananda 67-02-11
gorsundar 2 years ago
In a nutshell here is what I witnessed: On July 5th 1977 I was attending to Srila Prabhupada in his garden in Sri Vrindavan Dham. The secretary, Tamal Krsna Maharaja was reading letters from some of the temples asking for initiations for some of the devotees. Srila Prabhupada said, Tomorrow I will appoint some ritvik acharyas who will initiate disciples on my behalf when I leave the planet. Gauridas Pandit Das
gorsundar 2 years ago
Why would Srila Prabhupada use the word "Acharya" when referring to ritvik. I think maybe this person heard what he wanted to hear..
gettuff2 2 years ago
Why would Srila Prabhupada use the word "rituik" when referring to acharya. I think.
gorsundar 2 years ago
Ritvik has no meaning in the paramartik sense.
gettuff2 2 years ago
GBC considers even the most highly offensive to give the harimam initiation to a bhakta in the name of Srila Prabhupada, because according to them would be to blaspheme the Acharya already dead and gone.
Certainly the ghosts are offended when one chant Hare Krishna, but happens that this is not about a ghost.
gorsundara 2 years ago
In the formula that if: (A = B), (B = C) What is the value of the devotee C if A=1 and B=1 where the absolute value of the unit (1) is permanent, always the same and never changes? It is assumed that we must all become pure devotees acaryas (=1).
gorsundara 2 years ago
So where is the "organization" now?
gettuff2 2 years ago
The organization is that you be over the control of the senses and not under. Lord Krishna and His devotees ar over the control of the senses, "Hrisikesa." Srila Prabhupad said: "If you follow the 4 principles and chant the 16 rounds I considere you as my disciple formaly iniciated.
gorsundar 2 years ago
The GBC of ISKCON as executives of devotion implements the rituik sistem to give contradictory The Order of Guru as Representative of the Supreme Personality of God, Krishna, God in the earthly world, assuming the name of Srila Prabhupada, to move from His position of spiritual master authorized.
gorsundara 2 years ago
"Unfortunately in this age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has described them a disciples of Kali. He says, Kali-cela, he indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudo-Vaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kunti beads around his neck. Such a pseudo-Vaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava.
gorsundar 2 years ago
In the name of ``to save the parampara´´ can be so many good things. How can i became a madiam adhicary without be initiated?
gorsundara 2 years ago
Srila Prabhupada and Krsna want everyone to become Uttama Adhikari not just Madhyam. In this transendental science you want to make progress without the shelter of Sri Guru. How is that possible? You will have to surrender to a pure devotee. If you don't understand that then you should read the books of the acaryas esp Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur. It is absolutely impossible to progress without Guru and preferrable Guru should be Sri or Sat or Uttama. Read this verse from SB; isvara tad adhinesu.
gettuff2 2 years ago