BlazBlue Continuum Shift Rachel vs Jin

[xjxm]

How they were trading strikes for the first two rounds blew me - very high level japanese mindgames.

[XiahouYuan111]

What are they doing in first few rounds?They just run around and don't hit people.

[Redsrevenge]

CT rachel was very high tier but she is VERY hard to play properly. She's fat and slow, and you have to get good at manipulating frog, pumpkin, and cococunts + wind -which means you're constantly mashing quarter circles, which is less forgiving than butan mash.

[AlphaFredo]

I noticed that this CS Test Rachel is actually stronger than her final CS version.

I see her taking more damage in that test version than she does now in the final version.

I know because I play CS Rachel in the arcade a lot and her attack damage sucks ass.

[tuber52]

i dont play rachel but i dont think she got raped or anything that i hear ppl are saying. she still seems pretty deadly to me. but i think they might have lowered her stamina maybe cause her health bar drops pretty quick

[basch71]

In BlazBlue 1, she's definitely stronger. Her lightning attacks were just broken and can kill opponents quickly without much effort. Now she's physically weaker.

[tuber52]

i dont think it was her lightning i think it was just her ability to zone in general, with teh pumpkin and her wind and frog traps she probably could get reall deadly

[elrapido5150]

Is this stage they're fighting on the longest one in the game?

[PassiveTerrorField]

i will play as rachel again in CS. even if she is so nerfed she keeps her bossy attitude XD

on your knees!

[sojirokaidoh2]

such are the words of a true fan

[PassiveTerrorField]

..."With Naggo in hand i shall wind the sins of the world and bolt them in the baden-baden-lillys of destruction!

I AM  RA - CHEL!!!!

THE FROG HAS COME!

[XiahouYuan111]

@PassiveTerrorField lol

[PassiveTerrorField]

0:37 a hakumen style counter dd?

[KageZero]

yup. they gave jin hakumen's yukikaze. Only natural since jin is hakumen.

[RyuzakiKaiten]

well it makes sense considering there relationship in the story

[ShadowBakuraX]

rachel's foward medium reach looks longer

[Dawnte13]

So rachel can launch cows now? looks like i got a new main

[Siberianhusky89]

She sucks now, all the Rachel mains are leaving now. They gave her a shot, but...

[ltachi]

she dosent suck just that shes isnt the same

she willl be top tier easy >_> her potential is endless

[Siberianhusky89]

She does low damage, her jumping a doesn't hit overhead (A jumping move not hitting overhead), her frog does a billion times less damage, she has to wait for a charge for the frog, her pumpkin gets tossed away much easier, her combos are pretty week now, her wind gauge has a different charge time, her thunder balls are gone if you hit her during the animation, she has waaaay too many disadvantages to get up to top tier dude. I think Bang and Litchi need a slight nerf though.

[RyuzakiKaiten]

what bang needs no nerf...he has been sittin in low tier for along time now while rachel has been high and dry. now that she doesnt have all her cheap(cheap but takes skill to do)ways and bangs manlyness has increased (check out his AH) now he needs a nerf? very contradicting dont ya think

[Siberianhusky89]

He's S tier now dude. He's powerful, faster, has a great mixup game, and has much better combos and a better gattling a combo. Rachel was raped badly, just because she was good doesn't mean she should have been raped so badly that she completely sucks. Everyone should have a near fair advantage in the game, just cause he was low tier doesn't mean he should be S tier now.

[RyuzakiKaiten]

in my eyes bang was nerf'd from the start. and now in CS he is normal. but since he trancends tiers he was nerfed in CT to give everyone else a fair chance.

but seriously i see your point

[Siberianhusky89]

Yeah, I see your point as well. Honestly, I just want a very balanced game XD

[Shodan117]

She totally sucks, she can NEVER go back to top tier in CS

every move that made her good in CT was nerfed hard, even rendering 6B literally useless, every damaging combo requires lots of wind, and her wind recharge is slower than it was

there's a reason why almost everyone is leaving her

[sojirokaidoh2]

Yeah, and that reason is that they are shallow bastards and tier queers. What really matters is the skill of the player, not how 'good' the character is.

[Siberianhusky89]

Ever seen the match between Mike_Z's Tager and Goryus's V-13? Cause it says otherwise.

[Courvossier123]

@Siberianhusky89 That's not Continuum Shift anyway.

[Siberianhusky89]

Don't get me wrong, skill matters, but you can't deny the fact that a character is better than others for specific reasons, meaning you should fix the game up more.

[sojirokaidoh2]

I deny it every time I pound the living fuck out of a Nu player with my Tager.

[6o9tenstars]

@sojirokaidoh2 you're playing scrubby nus if you're beating them with tager.

[catzblu999]

@Dawnte13 Get ready to get owned with your garbage nerfed to the ground terribad.

[desertgod]

I heard Rachel got nerfed, what was her's?

[doug1291]

jin with yukikaze? smh... this just makes the life of a hakumen user such as myself even sadder....

[StarChildRoan]

Everyone got nerfed in and got a new move or two (maybe some more) all this means is that your gonna need a bit more skill to beat people now nothing wrong with that ^_^

Plus less damage done = longer matches so if your just destroying your opponent you get to have a bit more fun with them and they get more chances to try to get that come back

[sonicandnarutonu1fan]

roan its luke! have you seen the over vids of my wonderful racheal!

[StarChildRoan]

yea, i like the changes they made in continuum shift from what ive seen for the most part, cant wait for it to come out ^_^

[Gah1231]

I wanna see new arakune

[towelie893]

New Arakune is here: watch?v=htzJxG3EyzA

Unfortunately he's been nerfed a ton as well.

[tinymon]

Oh god Rachel's damage output is terrible now.

[checkplus]

everybody's damage output sucks now (except tager of course.)

[iNinjaBuddy]

Just  when I thought I couldn't love Rachel even more she launches a cow at Jin. :D

[checkplus]

I like what they've done with Rachel. She's gotten nerfed in a bunch of stuff, but Then they added a mid-air sword iris. That gives her a much better ability to control the field. People can't just throw stuff at her until she needs to jump. On a different note, it just makes me happy to see nu take a ride down the tier list.

[tinymon]

She didn't really need mid-air sword iris. Well... now she does because they broke everything else.

[checkplus]

oh, and she can move George with wind and the pumpkin doesn't disappear after 3 winds. can anyone say "Ridiculous combos"

[xboy2655]

@checkplus all they did to nu was make her movement slower by shortening her backstep and makin her jump and air dash shorter other then that i hear there keepin everythin else

[checkplus]

um... no, way different.

her damage got nerfed, and her ability to combo got destroyed (seriously, it's bad). She also can't get away because of her reduced movement (I say reduced, but I mean finally normal)

[xboy2655]

eh w/e i main jin anyways lol but its kinda good that shes been nerfed she was way 2 cheap in calamity trigger but eh someone will find a way to main her with all these changes

[checkplus]

yea, they probably won't release her this bad. She also got an ice-car-like move. All this info is from lok-tests

[xboy2655]

like jins? sweet maybe she'll be able to approtch the opponent easier and true these r just tests 2 see how they can balance out everyone nu probably wont be so horrible once the game comes out on consoles

[AumaanRa]

just as an FYI to jin players, there is no more Waggle to ice anymore, it just auto breaks at the shortest length of time. However they said that counter hit's seem to freeze longer

[knuxrouge]

I hear Arakune in the background...

:<

[RRFCaptain]

1:25, new air slash for Jin?!

[ArkradosKeiresk]

That's his new Air C

[jazzplaya44]

Yeh his air 5C is like the finish to his D ice car.. But he still has his original air C its just Air-2C now. Which is great because one of jins main probs in the air is poking. Now he wont be too susceptible to those weird normal anti-air moves that make chars like hakumen, rachel, noel, ragna invincible.. Never understood how Hak's anti-air shoulder makes him invunerable...

[SilentZero]

holy shit i love jin's new DD

[DLPP36]

i really dont like rachel's new dd...

it doesnt fit her character at all

[tyfhfhg]

Oh shit, what have they done with this top-tier character?

[ArkradosKeiresk]

Who?

[LinMLCW]

I think I just wet my pants.

[pnoyboy123]

Woah, the stage seems....really big.

[shadowblast007]

3:22 Rachel/Gii summoned a freaking COW! O.O

[CorenTheBrave]

And cue references to french taunting in monty python and the holy grail.

[TheAcidHairball]

I heard it was King George XIII, but that did not look like a frog... HOLY COW!!! O__O

[ebere213]

Kokuujin:.... YUKIKAZE *brain explodes from sheer awesomeness*

[JamKiske]

It's so sexy!

[ArkradosKeiresk]

Yukikaze looks weird, as it forces a stun on the opponent, but the stun can be broken immediately

[rydendm]

the freeze stun might just be purely for cosmetic effect than being anything practical for a followup hit.

[DarkSonicSpear]

Well, in a few situations it lets you pick between following up with an aerial combo or a ground combo. In general freeze combos are pretty flexible (even though the "auto wiggle" makes it less RAPE against n00bs Q_Q