why are you not getting hurt?? becuase you are doing it slow and you sit down and then roll slowly. Now land with your back if can first without sitting down.
@ArthasXfrost too much chosonninja bullshit for you, if you've ever studied a martial art in your life you'd understand it takes much more muscle control to do a technique slow and show the underlying principles, you stupid fuck.
@ArthasXfrost because someone who is ignorant as you are wouldn't be able to see whats correct and true. you think jesus is real, he's not. you think chosonninja is real, he's not. you don't realize everything in korea is stolen. you're a fucking retard with no martial arts experience. how old are you 16?>
@ArthasXfrost thats funny since theres no historical source proving pontius pilate crucified anyone, since crucifiction didn't come about until about 300 years later, the bible doesn't mention it either, the original greek is stavros which meant pillar not cross. the biblical account of pontius pilot is complete different from the historical account of his personality. now go ahead and name a historical document mentioning jesus that isn't a christian interpolation, theres none. i do this weekly
@ArthasXfrost read your bible fuck ass, pilate reluctantly sends jesus to death, he's portrayed as caring. the real pilate was hated for being incredibly cruel. the bible says pilate had jesus of nazareth inscribed above jesus, nazareth didn't exist at the time of jesus.
@ArthasXfrost NAZARETH DIDN'T EXIST AT THE TIME YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. tacitus wrote about pilate you fucking moron, and the cross was not used by romans, how fucking stupid are you.
@prostatus92 god you ignorant child, nazareth didn't exist until the 4th century ad we have tons of records for this, did you major in religion? i did. wheres your degree from?
@prostatus92 no fuckass tacitus wrote about chrestians, is you spoke greek you'd understand that chrestus was the common term for slaves at the time. not christ, christos. it's not even worth arguing with a fucking child who has no education.
All I've ever seen you do is roll around like a faggot, dress up in random japanese costumes, and hate on the same guy in every single video. What a joke.
i dont see how in any situation this "break fall" or "roll" would work. you need to start Jumping back onto your back. as in if someone tripped you. anyone can go from standing to crouching to a baby little roll onto your back. just saying :-P
@PestVic just used it yesterday slipping on ice. this is also the standard breakfall used in koryu bujutsu, but hey what do people who actually used this in war know? a chosonninjer like you is the true expert
@scottbaioisdead bahaha.when did i ever say i was a choson ninjerer or whatever lame name you gave them. i dont know if you remember me saying this on the first video of yours i commented on. i said i dont care much for choson ninja either and you were being pathetic in your videos. (which now ive just found as funny and entertaining) so i assume by your comment youve been in war? lol anyway to my point. quit calling people choson ninjaers or whatever just because they call you out. its pathetic
@scottbaioisdead also if i may add. you should take the challenge given by bigleathercoatdude below me. if you could pull that off being blindfolded, guaranteed you would gain the respect of all your haters, and those who dont hate you but just laugh. (like me). you talk much crap to others about taking challenges lets see if you can accept a legitimate one yourself.
@PestVic and what are your qualifications? which dan ranks do you hold? how long have you trained? who's your instructor? it's amazing you say you aren't a chosonninjer but your'e subscribed to his channels, how is that?
What kind of things does your art have to offer in terms of using the center? I notice here that you seem very uncentered and un balanced. You seem like you could be knocked over very easily. Was that a breakfall? Oh wait, nevermind, that was just the wind pushing you over.
I Love how I posted a comment....then it was deleted. To sum it up, the front roll was absolutely terrible. Shoulder to hip boy! The technique doesn't have to be "Spot on" but for God's sake don't look like you're falling off balance and slow rolling. Btw 7 1/2 years martial arts exp. and 4 1/2 years parkour training.
@Zerosigni Agreed. This guy is obviously an 'arm chair' martial artist who has never had any real training in his life. 23 years experience in martial arts my ass. Absolutely no control. No techniques. No body co-ordination. I think he 'trained' in his dreams.
I have just watched a lot of your videos and you seem like a very intelligent man. Unfortunately this bickering between yourself and Choson does more harm than good to the arts. There is much validity in what you are saying I am sure, however, when you resort to the level of name calling and banal commenting that takes place back and forth nothing gets resolved, it merely perpetuates this ongoing internet flame war.
I have just watched a lot of your videos and you seem like a very intelligent man. Unfortunately this bickering between yourself and Choson does more harm than good to the arts. There is much validity in what you are saying I am sure, however, when you resort to the level of name calling and banal commenting that takes place back and forth nothing gets resolved, it merely perpetuates this ongoing internet flame war.
@MixedMartialFitness I think he knows that. He's leaving it up to Greg to rectify what GREG has done wrong. Ridiculing and cutting down Greg Park seems to be the smartest and most honest way to go about ending this whole charade, not because it's nice to ridicule others, but because it effectively exposes Greg's reluctance to come clean and stop lying. The question is not how far scottbaioisdead is willing to go to discredit Choson, but how far Choson will go to try and cover up his lies!
The break falls are meant to protect the head primarily? no? Plus I think you should make a video of someone actually pushing you, a hard push. Just for good measure.
@ scottbaioisdead - excellent - you have learned well from watching Master Park's videos . . . I am proud of you . . . Keep up the good work . . . Keep training . . .
I never said i get thrown a lot, i said ive taken enough falls. every bouncer in the world has fallen at one point or another. I dont claim to be the best. i think i can hold my own. now secondly. it doesnt matter if who you learned from is gettting thrown pretty hard. the idea was for you to get thrown hard. and try out slapping the ground before knocking it.
seriously. who tought you how to break fall? unless someone throws you or you throw yourself into it with any effort. you will not understand the concept. i you like rolling around on grass or rocks. stand with both your feet touching. blindfold your self and get a friend to push you violently in any direction. if you do not get hurt i will buy you your own dojo to teach any type of martial arts your like.
@bigleathercoatdude you could just watch the video to the right, that guy is one of the people who i learned from, and he seems to be getting thrown pretty hard. you said on one video you're a bouncer but here you say you get thrown a lot? you must suck at your job.
Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin.
@AtoUsername are you a retard? lying on nails is done by the number of nails used evenly distributing the weight of your body. the road isn't broken? what the fuck is wrong with you. yea those holes and cracks are cgi. unlike the crack your mum apparently smoked when she was pregnant with you, which i imagine was some strong shit.
@scottbaioisdead "Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin."
- sounds almost like a king crimson song - I bet you that if someone recorded a song, and that was the only lyrics, ChosonNinja would be able to find at least 10 subliminal messages in there, proving that Korea is really actually controlling the world through prayer and fake sushi.
@scottbaioisdead "Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin."
- sounds almost like a king crimson song - I bet you that if someone recorded a song, and that was the only lyrics, ChosonNinja would be able to find at least 10 subliminal messages in there, proving that Korea is really actually controlling the world through prayer and fake sushi.
@LueArts The breakfalling Greg is showing is taken from sport martial art, as is most of his standup striking skill. There is a BIG difference between application of a technique in a sporting context, and that of a street combat context. Greg does not understand this because the basis of his training is TKD and HKD which are sport MA. His "Ninja" stuff is simply that which he has watched others do, and implemented to make his MA look different. Doesn't mean he understands it!
this kind of breakfall is not applicable to many combat situations. imagine someone comes in with a high double leg (watch?v=kxDNQj8mBTE) on concrete. you can't do this breakfall in that case. you still need the technique to stop breaking your back - ie, arching your back, landing higher up and straightening the arms to prevent your elbows being smashed in. traditionally, maybe dean is right, maybe this is how people trained back breakfalls, but this doesnt look practical at all imo
@mr1ah Well, all I can say to your response here. I am a Police officer and as such deal with potentially lethal situations on a regular basis. What Dean is showing is pretty much exactly what I was taught at our Academy as to how to break a fall safely. This is still taught in the program today, some 22 years later, so obviously the opinion of the policing universe in this regard has not changed. I also have found it equally effective in Budo training. It's all in how you train yourself to fall
@reginaninja well it's just that dean was saying about how the shaolin monks breakfalls were not effective in many situations, whereas i can see that learning to fall from heights on hard surfaces like the monk was doing would be a decent way of traning how to deal with falls and slams than simply lowering yourself to the ground and lying down.
@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
So, if you could post a video of either a dive roll or a roll/break fall as a result of someone shoving you with force, then viewers can really tell if you're using proper technique.
I personally can't tell how good the technique is, because the roll is slow. (Less potential gravitational + kinetic energy is transferred into the roll. As a result, less energy is converted to the roll.)
Due to this, I can observe that you (scottbaoisdead) is actually using more force than what was put into the roll.
So, I'm not sure if this is really a break fall roll, because you don't really fall. You just lie down and roll...
@Creation0012 What you are failing to understand, and possibly just a case that Dean did not explain this part is that one has to train themselves in the proper way to fall in order for this to be effective in all situations. Perhaps he left that info out, so that the concepts would not be copied and called Nintaijutsu later on!
@reginaninja I never mentioned Nintaijutsu. Nor am I a Nintaijustu practitioner either.
However, since you brought it up; I will point out that anyone can do a roll with proper technique. You don't have to be a true "ninja" to roll. For example, parkour involves rolling, but ninjas never copied the art of rolling creating created parkour.
@reginaninja Why would you say Dean left this important information out to prove that the other person is an idiot, and doesn't know what he's talking about? Leaving information isn't how you prove someone wrong.
@Creation0012 The point I was trying to make is that Dean was not trying to teach the concepts of rolling or falling. He was simply showing them, or demonstrating them. Greg likes to steal concepts from others and say they are his own ideas. He has been doing this for a long time. Dean is being smart by not explaining everything on Youtube!
@Creation0012 One of the reasons I do not do tutorial videos on martial arts is probably the same reason why Dean does not go in to a lot of detail in his demos. I am not interested in spreading the knowledge around the world! If someone wants to learn from me, they can come and learn from me at my Dojo where martial arts teaching and learning is supposed to occur! Not on the internet!
Actaully the thing is about youtube: you can't know for sure that the technique is well done, you even less if you're doing it right.
With a real sensei, he show you, you copy and he corrects you if needed.
Sometimes just copying isn't correct, you have to do the technique correctly, if you have a different body structure you might have to do the technique slightly differently...
Besides, a sensei knows what you have to work on. No guide = you get nowhere.
@crazyseba666 I agree wholeheartedly! Greg Park though does not seem to understand this, or does not care. Those that try to learn his fake Ninjutsu from his videos are probably more likely to get their asses handed to them in a fight then they were with no training, because now they have poor skills and a false sense of security to go with it!
@reginaninja it's even worse than you think, just look at the type of people choson attracts: in general people with poor judgement and low education.
Choson himself has threatened Dean and many others, his Cult/gang is more dangerous than you think. Skills or no skills, an armed guy is always a threat.
What more concerning than teaching BS skills is that fact that he's encouragig little kids to play with weapons, without the proper sensei to guide them.
They believe anything he says and don't question anything.
With time he slowly formed a Cult of naive people, who will do anything to follow him. He also knows how to pick those people, he gives something impossible to give: "teaches ninja arts through youtube" to anyone who accepts him. Those people don't realise that's impossible, but they still want to believe it anyway.
@crazyseba666 I understand the possibility of these people being dangerous if they came for someone with a weapon. This is why I do not post any of my personal information on my channel and do not give out my personal information to anyone even if I trust them. I encourage everyone on Youtube to do the same. Unless someone knows you personally, your identity and personal info is none of anyone's business!
nice work, so as i understand we should convert the falling to rolling this way we wont get hurt, keep on teaching good stuff as you do, and if possible please teach kuji kiri
@arshia1981 i majored in religion my concentration was in eastern philosophy i know more than 81 "kuji kiri" mudras, i also know catholic prayers theres no point in talking about them because they're the same thing, superstition that does nothing.
The reason these rolls don't hurt is because there is (shouldn't) be any contact with the spine. One rolls from their shoulder down to their hip, having little contact with the ground the whole time. With a perfect roll, one can roll on any surface.
Hey Scott, you know what I realized? This is all retarded. The squabbles with Choson and everyone else, all the back and forth all the time, for months and months it goes, it's insane. What would be the bottom line for you as far as resolving all these issues? Idiots will be idiots, and so long and there is someone to preach there will be those sheep more than willing to follow. No matter what the subject. I just don't see an end anywhere. Your thoughts?
@DragunSouldier A solution has been given to Greg and his followers a long time ago. He simply refuses to take that step. The solution, is to denounce all this B.S., and it is B.S., about Ninja's coming from Korea, and the who Choson Ninja, Nintaijutsu thing, and tell the truth, that he is a certified practitioner, maybe even a master practitioner in Taekwondo, Hapkido, and Haidong Gumdo, and that all the other Ninja like stuff is either made up, or taken from stuff he has learned from videos
@reginaninja and just start teaching his art for what it really is, and stop lying to people. We would all eave him alone, if he did that! Problem is, he has been lying for so long now that I think he actually is starting to believe his own B.S.
@reginaninja Ok, so the issue here is that what he believes to be true, or what he claims to be what he believes to be true, is clearly and historically incorrect. I've seen quite a few of his videos, is it possible he made up all this stuff on his own? I mean, even he had to have been taught by someone. Isn't there some kind of trail to be followed? At any rate, if he were to denounce all the previous claims and continue teaching "new school" techniques, he'd be in the clear?
@reginaninja Isn't there SOME basis to his claims? Aren't there SOME kind of historical documentation or evidence that he's using to justify his position? I find it pretty hard to believe that everything he's saying was completely fabricated. I mean, Korean Ninja's, is it that hard to believe that the Korean government would have established their own kind of dark ops corps? I'm pulling out of the blue here, obviously I don't know much of anything about the subject
@reginaninja I'm a martial arts enthusiast, I like having my facts straight like anyone else, I don't have the time in my own schedule to delve as deeply as I'd like into the subject. I appreciate any time you, and anyone else volunteers to help me understand all of this
@DragunSouldier There is a new book out by Dr. Kacem Zoughari that is the culmination of about 10 years of research into this topic, and it is very detailed and extensive. I would strongly suggest if you wish to know more about this topic, buy this book! The book is called ( The Ninja, Ancient Shadow Warriors of Japan, Secret History of Ninjutsu ).
@DragunSouldier Perhaps they did. I don't know. To my knowledge there are no documented history of such a group. I there was, they would most certainly not have called themselves, or have been called Ninja, or Shinobi as these are Japanese terms.
@DragunSouldier I have a hard time believing anyone who quotes information from a site posted by Ashida Kim on Ninjutsu history. Ashida Kim is probably the biggest fraud that the world martial arts community ever knew and is in now way a credible source. He also quotes Wikipedia, which is also of very questionable reliability, because anyone can go on and modify information. He has never presented any documentation of his own as proof of his claims!
@DragunSouldier Well, I'm sure there would still be those out there that would criticize his techniques from time to time, but I think that would satisfy the vast majority of whom he calls "Haters!", although most of these people are simply critics and do not hate anyone! I think if he were to stop using Japanese terms to describe his Korean art, that would keep most of his Japanese critics happy as well.
the point is to take ukemi in a way that takes the least out of you, he can take ukemi all day long; but how many times can someone do a judo backfall on concrete -- not very many, before they can't do anymore.
do you actually belive that you are doing the same as in this vid? watch?v=zpQIhog5xD0 I never said in my coments that choson ninja did anything with rolls. you always tell people to learn to read,and people should learn english.. seems like you cant read properly yourself.. now why are you not getting hurt? Becuase you do the same lame rolls and no falling! there is a big diffrens between you anf this vids watch?v=zpQIhog5xD0 watch?v=gz0Mcz0DE_U you cant say that you are doing the same stuff
@derek4272 no i don't do the same stuff as that, because my videos show martial arts not dancing as in modern wushu. if you want me to make videos of me slowly lowering myself with my hands and feet and dancing i can do that, but whats shown in those videos isn't something thats applicable on anything but a completely level surface. if you actually trained in a martial art you'd see what exactly is done to produce the trick of hitting the ground hard in those dance videos you showed.
i also second that "modern wushu" isn't seen as applicable in combat
the techniques dean has shown here actually are
which you can see in my comment to second deans answer to suburbanninja
almost direct comparable techniques were used by the assassins who needed to fight templar knights in cities that had streets made of stone tiles all over the place and big plazas made of a concrete like material
@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
I'm sorry, Wushu is a dance. See that panel of judges in the second video? Those folks create a conflict of interest in the practice of your martial art. When scoring becomes on the level of acrobatics, it divorces the practice of Wushu from practicality or efficiency. It looks cool, I'll give you that, but cmon man...
@MarshalNey13 there are judges in ufc also. so you would say that jet li isnt a martial artist? capoerira is also a martial art . but it is also a dance.
doesnt matter what you can use in real battle and so on..it is up to the practitioner of the martial art.. not the style it self..and it is still martial art
The judges aren't the problem...it's the goal of the MA. I made a typo in my last post so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. "when scoring becomes [BASED] on the level of acrobatics..."
UFC is based on beating an opponent using a wide range of techniques...namely standup/groundfighting. Therefore to training is catered to achieving proficiency in those areas. Sport Wushu is designed to look pretty for the judges, therefore, training will be directed at doing cool acrobatic moves
I have never seen Jet Li fight someone. Maybe the vids are out there, tbh I've never checked. I can tell you that Jet Li performing a choreographed fight sequence with wires does not convince me that he's a fighter. Capoeira is a dance, and is not a realistic fighting system.
Can you consider square dancing a martial art? What about Yoga? We can argue about semantics but both Wushu and Capoeira encourage the use of highly inefficient movements.
@MarshalNey13 everyone doesnt think i can do this or that in a real fight..everyone has diffrent goals with martial art.. scoring is for competition but you can still train it with out it.
Ok, i see the problem. We have different definitions of what a "martial art" is. For me, a martial art is a combination of principles and techniques that will aid me in a fight. Specifically, a practitioner should be able to minimize the amount damage taken from an opponent while maximizing the amount of injury he/she can inflict on another human being in a fight.
The more a martial art deviates from this end goal...to win a fight and hurt his/her opponent the less effective it is...in my mind. If you train to do acrobatic kicks or silly dances then you are an acrobat or a dancer...
woah woah woah. Don't label me like that. I'm talking about definitions here. You seem to think that performance value or aesthetics are valid components to MA, I happen to think think that's silly. I think that at the end of the day...you're training to fight and hurt someone else. I don't like hurting people and I both train and compete because I enjoy it, but without practicality then MA are useless imo.
@MarshalNey13 I understand that you think it is silly.
but it is still considerd as martial art and a good way to show that your body is in shape speed and agility.. and at the end of the day some may think that
they got better skill health stornger learned something new and so on.
just becuase goals are diffrent doesnt make it useless.
"doesn't make it useless"... the word "useless" is a relative term. A piano is
"useless" for catching fish but it is a very useful instrument if you want to play a song. In just the same way, fancy back flips are useless move in a real fight. Do you hear that? USELESS in a real fight! Can we agree on that? If I'm trying to throw you would you do a backflip? I'm sure the stunts are great exercise but so are weightlifting and Tae Bo and square dancing.
That is not the christian ninja way to roll, therefore it is wrong, shame on you. It amazes me that chosonninjers still criticize your break falls and rolls after you proved them wrong.
But... I SAW DIRT! This doesn't count! Rofl! People pick out the dumbest shit to comment on with your videos, man... It's sad that people can't tell someone is wrong when they try to turn everything Korean just because they have ninja fantasies... Nice video.
@hotpopcorncake - just little on the edge a bit. I do know dean has real Training in Ninjutus about 20 years. I just have something about people telling something I all ready knew.
jewish ninja boy LoL
ahmoldowake 2 weeks ago
@ahmoldowake not jewish, not a ninja.
scottbaioisdead 2 weeks ago
why are you not getting hurt?? becuase you are doing it slow and you sit down and then roll slowly. Now land with your back if can first without sitting down.
you cant hahahahaha you suck
cockmaker3321 1 month ago
love these videos. I made a playlist of most of your greg vids
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lol its better to do it on the grass if you're gonna be that slow
(its ok...i kno u didn't want to hurt your back on those "sharp rocks")
:)
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost hey fuck ass learn physics, moving slow on a sharp object is more dangerous
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead lol that makes u even more stupid for demonstrating
its impractical in that its so slow which according to u makes it "more dangerous"?
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost too much chosonninja bullshit for you, if you've ever studied a martial art in your life you'd understand it takes much more muscle control to do a technique slow and show the underlying principles, you stupid fuck.
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead LOL no it doesn't
its much better for anyone to see a roll done quickly AND properly
people admire that much more than a slow impractical roll
btw at 1:56 rolling in a different direction (and then standing back into your original direction lol) doesn't really show us "underlying principles"
no wonder so many ppl are saying how slow and crappy your rolls are
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost it's amazing how an ignorant fuck like yourself can't see the truth, oh well keep belieiving in chosonninja and korea and jesus.
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead ignorant? u mean how u still don't get it even tho so many ppl tell u your rolls sux?
and why are u bringing Jesus and Korea into this? they don't have anything to do with a roll lol
religious AND racist bigot much?
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost because someone who is ignorant as you are wouldn't be able to see whats correct and true. you think jesus is real, he's not. you think chosonninja is real, he's not. you don't realize everything in korea is stolen. you're a fucking retard with no martial arts experience. how old are you 16?>
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead oh now we're getting into religion?
uh no Jesus Christ is a real person unless Pontius Pilate crucified an imaginary guy
and uhh no again taekwondo is korean martial arts not japanese
well its as they say "Seeing is believing" and i see Choson actually doing martial arts in his vids
unlike the majority of your videos where mostly your mouth is the only thing thats moving
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost thats funny since theres no historical source proving pontius pilate crucified anyone, since crucifiction didn't come about until about 300 years later, the bible doesn't mention it either, the original greek is stavros which meant pillar not cross. the biblical account of pontius pilot is complete different from the historical account of his personality. now go ahead and name a historical document mentioning jesus that isn't a christian interpolation, theres none. i do this weekly
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead thats funny i read in many different places that crucifixion came BEFORE Christ
where did u read that crucifixion didn't come until 300 yrs later?
and idk why your talking bout personality when the Bible doesn't mention Pilate's personality
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost read your bible fuck ass, pilate reluctantly sends jesus to death, he's portrayed as caring. the real pilate was hated for being incredibly cruel. the bible says pilate had jesus of nazareth inscribed above jesus, nazareth didn't exist at the time of jesus.
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead have nothing to say on crucifixion anymore? isee :)
and there is no "historical evidence" on personality lol
ultimately it comes down to your faith and trust in whichever party
uhh didn't U read the Bible Jesus spent his childhood in Nazareth
silly fool
ArthasXfrost 3 months ago
@ArthasXfrost NAZARETH DIDN'T EXIST AT THE TIME YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. tacitus wrote about pilate you fucking moron, and the cross was not used by romans, how fucking stupid are you.
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead aww seems like i hit a nerve
and just cuz Nazareth wasn't known to many as it was a small and insignificant place doesn't mean it didn't exist
wat? does something exist right when the majority (world) discover it? nope
and it doesn't matter who
personality isn't "historical evidence" genius
its a testimony, u either believe or u don't
yes even if its tacitus one of the greatest roman historians who even made errors on "factual accounts"
prostatus92 3 months ago
@prostatus92 god you ignorant child, nazareth didn't exist until the 4th century ad we have tons of records for this, did you major in religion? i did. wheres your degree from?
scottbaioisdead 3 months ago
@scottbaioisdead also btw it says that romans actually PERFECTED crucifixion tho it was first created by the Persians
and even Tacitus acknowledged that Jesus existed AND that he was put to death by Pontius Pilate
go read his "Annals"
can't handle the truth so you block me lol
its ok i said what i needed to say XD
prostatus92 3 months ago
@prostatus92 no fuckass tacitus wrote about chrestians, is you spoke greek you'd understand that chrestus was the common term for slaves at the time. not christ, christos. it's not even worth arguing with a fucking child who has no education.
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LeonardsAccount 5 months ago
that was the shittiest rolling i have ever seen
KangOhDayumn 9 months ago 2
All I've ever seen you do is roll around like a faggot, dress up in random japanese costumes, and hate on the same guy in every single video. What a joke.
poophayd 10 months ago
i dont see how in any situation this "break fall" or "roll" would work. you need to start Jumping back onto your back. as in if someone tripped you. anyone can go from standing to crouching to a baby little roll onto your back. just saying :-P
PestVic 1 year ago
@PestVic just used it yesterday slipping on ice. this is also the standard breakfall used in koryu bujutsu, but hey what do people who actually used this in war know? a chosonninjer like you is the true expert
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead bahaha.when did i ever say i was a choson ninjerer or whatever lame name you gave them. i dont know if you remember me saying this on the first video of yours i commented on. i said i dont care much for choson ninja either and you were being pathetic in your videos. (which now ive just found as funny and entertaining) so i assume by your comment youve been in war? lol anyway to my point. quit calling people choson ninjaers or whatever just because they call you out. its pathetic
PestVic 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead also if i may add. you should take the challenge given by bigleathercoatdude below me. if you could pull that off being blindfolded, guaranteed you would gain the respect of all your haters, and those who dont hate you but just laugh. (like me). you talk much crap to others about taking challenges lets see if you can accept a legitimate one yourself.
PestVic 1 year ago
@PestVic and what are your qualifications? which dan ranks do you hold? how long have you trained? who's your instructor? it's amazing you say you aren't a chosonninjer but your'e subscribed to his channels, how is that?
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
You're a wet noodle... angel hair at that. lol
pcnthuziast 1 year ago
What kind of things does your art have to offer in terms of using the center? I notice here that you seem very uncentered and un balanced. You seem like you could be knocked over very easily. Was that a breakfall? Oh wait, nevermind, that was just the wind pushing you over.
ctcc1987 1 year ago
Wow.. You are slow...
ctcc1987 1 year ago
Lol that's some horrible rolling.
aramaic1138 1 year ago 13
I Love how I posted a comment....then it was deleted. To sum it up, the front roll was absolutely terrible. Shoulder to hip boy! The technique doesn't have to be "Spot on" but for God's sake don't look like you're falling off balance and slow rolling. Btw 7 1/2 years martial arts exp. and 4 1/2 years parkour training.
Zerosigni 1 year ago 5
@Zerosigni Agreed. This guy is obviously an 'arm chair' martial artist who has never had any real training in his life. 23 years experience in martial arts my ass. Absolutely no control. No techniques. No body co-ordination. I think he 'trained' in his dreams.
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I have just watched a lot of your videos and you seem like a very intelligent man. Unfortunately this bickering between yourself and Choson does more harm than good to the arts. There is much validity in what you are saying I am sure, however, when you resort to the level of name calling and banal commenting that takes place back and forth nothing gets resolved, it merely perpetuates this ongoing internet flame war.
MixedMartialFitness 1 year ago
I have just watched a lot of your videos and you seem like a very intelligent man. Unfortunately this bickering between yourself and Choson does more harm than good to the arts. There is much validity in what you are saying I am sure, however, when you resort to the level of name calling and banal commenting that takes place back and forth nothing gets resolved, it merely perpetuates this ongoing internet flame war.
MixedMartialFitness 1 year ago
@MixedMartialFitness I think he knows that. He's leaving it up to Greg to rectify what GREG has done wrong. Ridiculing and cutting down Greg Park seems to be the smartest and most honest way to go about ending this whole charade, not because it's nice to ridicule others, but because it effectively exposes Greg's reluctance to come clean and stop lying. The question is not how far scottbaioisdead is willing to go to discredit Choson, but how far Choson will go to try and cover up his lies!
theanvilcracks 1 year ago
....not that hard to do that on cement...i can do that 3 times faster wearing while someone just charge at me without really any effort....
HopefulNinja 1 year ago
The break falls are meant to protect the head primarily? no? Plus I think you should make a video of someone actually pushing you, a hard push. Just for good measure.
Sentnl 1 year ago
this boy rolls like a spastic southpark actor ..maybe thats why he is hunting park so desperately ;-)
wienonline 1 year ago
@ scottbaioisdead - excellent - you have learned well from watching Master Park's videos . . . I am proud of you . . . Keep up the good work . . . Keep training . . .
youdarnfool222 1 year ago 2
I never said i get thrown a lot, i said ive taken enough falls. every bouncer in the world has fallen at one point or another. I dont claim to be the best. i think i can hold my own. now secondly. it doesnt matter if who you learned from is gettting thrown pretty hard. the idea was for you to get thrown hard. and try out slapping the ground before knocking it.
bigleathercoatdude 1 year ago
seriously. who tought you how to break fall? unless someone throws you or you throw yourself into it with any effort. you will not understand the concept. i you like rolling around on grass or rocks. stand with both your feet touching. blindfold your self and get a friend to push you violently in any direction. if you do not get hurt i will buy you your own dojo to teach any type of martial arts your like.
bigleathercoatdude 1 year ago
@bigleathercoatdude you could just watch the video to the right, that guy is one of the people who i learned from, and he seems to be getting thrown pretty hard. you said on one video you're a bouncer but here you say you get thrown a lot? you must suck at your job.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin.
AtoUsername 1 year ago
@AtoUsername are you a retard? lying on nails is done by the number of nails used evenly distributing the weight of your body. the road isn't broken? what the fuck is wrong with you. yea those holes and cracks are cgi. unlike the crack your mum apparently smoked when she was pregnant with you, which i imagine was some strong shit.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead "Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin."
- sounds almost like a king crimson song - I bet you that if someone recorded a song, and that was the only lyrics, ChosonNinja would be able to find at least 10 subliminal messages in there, proving that Korea is really actually controlling the world through prayer and fake sushi.
theanvilcracks 1 year ago
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@scottbaioisdead "Let's see you fight, instead of rolling around on rocks. P.S Road isn't that broken, it's kind of flat and it's absorbing the rocks more than your body. It's how one can lay on nails, virgin."
- sounds almost like a king crimson song - I bet you that if someone recorded a song, and that was the only lyrics, ChosonNinja would be able to find at least 10 subliminal messages in there, proving that Korea is really actually controlling the world through prayer and fake sushi.
theanvilcracks 1 year ago
If one is a continuation of the other they are different intrinsically.
A100101100101 1 year ago
also his history information, is all fake, why is choson ninja, doing this?
jin54363 1 year ago
i have seen this man, chosonninja, i dont understand his videos, they all seem fake teachings to me
jin54363 1 year ago
wow, you all need to relax, i mean all of you, reginaninja chosen ninja scottbaioisdead and EVERYONE commenting, seriously
chill
jessdrums4 1 year ago
so you are getting dragged into this too huh
that was real good but you're more like the lawyer type
just hire someone like me to do the dirty work
gigibuybuy 1 year ago
ahah I also get such stupid remarks all the time, from people who obviously have no idea what they're talking about.
Somehow some people believe that because they watched a lot of youtube videos, they've suddenly become experts.
crazyseba666 1 year ago
@LueArts The breakfalling Greg is showing is taken from sport martial art, as is most of his standup striking skill. There is a BIG difference between application of a technique in a sporting context, and that of a street combat context. Greg does not understand this because the basis of his training is TKD and HKD which are sport MA. His "Ninja" stuff is simply that which he has watched others do, and implemented to make his MA look different. Doesn't mean he understands it!
reginaninja 1 year ago
tell Me when are you going to make dance fall video?
i know you read my message
you sit and then roll on floor, even litle children can do that , like a beginner or stiff old man.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 so how many years have you studied? who's your teacher? where are your videos?
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead you always say who is your teacher and bla bla bla
when you cant answer.
i dont study martial art
i have no teacher
i dont make videos.
SO WHEN IS YOU GONNA MAKE YOUR DANCE FALL VIDEO ???
that you said you would make..
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 if u dont no jack shit and dont do ur reaserch then dont talk troll
kaindrg 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead id like to ask you those questions actually, along with, when is/was your closest birthday and what age did you turn then.
what arts did you study,and rough for how long in each one.
elgostine 1 year ago
this kind of breakfall is not applicable to many combat situations. imagine someone comes in with a high double leg (watch?v=kxDNQj8mBTE) on concrete. you can't do this breakfall in that case. you still need the technique to stop breaking your back - ie, arching your back, landing higher up and straightening the arms to prevent your elbows being smashed in. traditionally, maybe dean is right, maybe this is how people trained back breakfalls, but this doesnt look practical at all imo
mr1ah 1 year ago
@mr1ah Well, all I can say to your response here. I am a Police officer and as such deal with potentially lethal situations on a regular basis. What Dean is showing is pretty much exactly what I was taught at our Academy as to how to break a fall safely. This is still taught in the program today, some 22 years later, so obviously the opinion of the policing universe in this regard has not changed. I also have found it equally effective in Budo training. It's all in how you train yourself to fall
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja well it's just that dean was saying about how the shaolin monks breakfalls were not effective in many situations, whereas i can see that learning to fall from heights on hard surfaces like the monk was doing would be a decent way of traning how to deal with falls and slams than simply lowering yourself to the ground and lying down.
mr1ah 1 year ago
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@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
derek4272 1 year ago
when is your the dance falling video coming out??
derek4272 1 year ago
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@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
derek4272 1 year ago
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@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
derek4272 1 year ago
So, if you could post a video of either a dive roll or a roll/break fall as a result of someone shoving you with force, then viewers can really tell if you're using proper technique.
Creation0012 1 year ago
I'm not sure what you guys are arguing about.
I personally can't tell how good the technique is, because the roll is slow. (Less potential gravitational + kinetic energy is transferred into the roll. As a result, less energy is converted to the roll.)
Due to this, I can observe that you (scottbaoisdead) is actually using more force than what was put into the roll.
So, I'm not sure if this is really a break fall roll, because you don't really fall. You just lie down and roll...
Creation0012 1 year ago
@Creation0012 What you are failing to understand, and possibly just a case that Dean did not explain this part is that one has to train themselves in the proper way to fall in order for this to be effective in all situations. Perhaps he left that info out, so that the concepts would not be copied and called Nintaijutsu later on!
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja conceptsa were copied and called nintaijutsu yesterday, i'll be posting a vid shortly
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead You just said "conceptsa were copied and called nintaijutsu yesterday". I don't understand.
Someone already copied your roll yesterday?
???
Creation0012 1 year ago
@Creation0012 check out my latest video
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@reginaninja I never mentioned Nintaijutsu. Nor am I a Nintaijustu practitioner either.
However, since you brought it up; I will point out that anyone can do a roll with proper technique. You don't have to be a true "ninja" to roll. For example, parkour involves rolling, but ninjas never copied the art of rolling creating created parkour.
Creation0012 1 year ago
@reginaninja Why would you say Dean left this important information out to prove that the other person is an idiot, and doesn't know what he's talking about? Leaving information isn't how you prove someone wrong.
Creation0012 1 year ago
@Creation0012 The point I was trying to make is that Dean was not trying to teach the concepts of rolling or falling. He was simply showing them, or demonstrating them. Greg likes to steal concepts from others and say they are his own ideas. He has been doing this for a long time. Dean is being smart by not explaining everything on Youtube!
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja That's kind of interesting. So you're saying Dean only demonstrates certain techniques for certain people so Greg can't claim the ideas?
I understand people don't like others to steal their ideas, but I guess it happens. Although, that is how knowledge can be spread across the world.
Creation0012 1 year ago
@Creation0012 One of the reasons I do not do tutorial videos on martial arts is probably the same reason why Dean does not go in to a lot of detail in his demos. I am not interested in spreading the knowledge around the world! If someone wants to learn from me, they can come and learn from me at my Dojo where martial arts teaching and learning is supposed to occur! Not on the internet!
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja
Actaully the thing is about youtube: you can't know for sure that the technique is well done, you even less if you're doing it right.
With a real sensei, he show you, you copy and he corrects you if needed.
Sometimes just copying isn't correct, you have to do the technique correctly, if you have a different body structure you might have to do the technique slightly differently...
Besides, a sensei knows what you have to work on. No guide = you get nowhere.
crazyseba666 1 year ago
@crazyseba666 I agree wholeheartedly! Greg Park though does not seem to understand this, or does not care. Those that try to learn his fake Ninjutsu from his videos are probably more likely to get their asses handed to them in a fight then they were with no training, because now they have poor skills and a false sense of security to go with it!
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja it's even worse than you think, just look at the type of people choson attracts: in general people with poor judgement and low education.
Choson himself has threatened Dean and many others, his Cult/gang is more dangerous than you think. Skills or no skills, an armed guy is always a threat.
What more concerning than teaching BS skills is that fact that he's encouragig little kids to play with weapons, without the proper sensei to guide them.
crazyseba666 1 year ago
They believe anything he says and don't question anything.
With time he slowly formed a Cult of naive people, who will do anything to follow him. He also knows how to pick those people, he gives something impossible to give: "teaches ninja arts through youtube" to anyone who accepts him. Those people don't realise that's impossible, but they still want to believe it anyway.
crazyseba666 1 year ago
@crazyseba666 I understand the possibility of these people being dangerous if they came for someone with a weapon. This is why I do not post any of my personal information on my channel and do not give out my personal information to anyone even if I trust them. I encourage everyone on Youtube to do the same. Unless someone knows you personally, your identity and personal info is none of anyone's business!
reginaninja 1 year ago
nice work, so as i understand we should convert the falling to rolling this way we wont get hurt, keep on teaching good stuff as you do, and if possible please teach kuji kiri
thanks
arshia1981 1 year ago
@arshia1981 i majored in religion my concentration was in eastern philosophy i know more than 81 "kuji kiri" mudras, i also know catholic prayers theres no point in talking about them because they're the same thing, superstition that does nothing.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
The reason these rolls don't hurt is because there is (shouldn't) be any contact with the spine. One rolls from their shoulder down to their hip, having little contact with the ground the whole time. With a perfect roll, one can roll on any surface.
melusky 1 year ago
Hey Scott, you know what I realized? This is all retarded. The squabbles with Choson and everyone else, all the back and forth all the time, for months and months it goes, it's insane. What would be the bottom line for you as far as resolving all these issues? Idiots will be idiots, and so long and there is someone to preach there will be those sheep more than willing to follow. No matter what the subject. I just don't see an end anywhere. Your thoughts?
DragunSouldier 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier A solution has been given to Greg and his followers a long time ago. He simply refuses to take that step. The solution, is to denounce all this B.S., and it is B.S., about Ninja's coming from Korea, and the who Choson Ninja, Nintaijutsu thing, and tell the truth, that he is a certified practitioner, maybe even a master practitioner in Taekwondo, Hapkido, and Haidong Gumdo, and that all the other Ninja like stuff is either made up, or taken from stuff he has learned from videos
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja and just start teaching his art for what it really is, and stop lying to people. We would all eave him alone, if he did that! Problem is, he has been lying for so long now that I think he actually is starting to believe his own B.S.
reginaninja 1 year ago
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DragunSouldier 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier greg won't give his teachers name it's a ninja secret.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@reginaninja Ok, so the issue here is that what he believes to be true, or what he claims to be what he believes to be true, is clearly and historically incorrect. I've seen quite a few of his videos, is it possible he made up all this stuff on his own? I mean, even he had to have been taught by someone. Isn't there some kind of trail to be followed? At any rate, if he were to denounce all the previous claims and continue teaching "new school" techniques, he'd be in the clear?
DragunSouldier 1 year ago
@reginaninja Isn't there SOME basis to his claims? Aren't there SOME kind of historical documentation or evidence that he's using to justify his position? I find it pretty hard to believe that everything he's saying was completely fabricated. I mean, Korean Ninja's, is it that hard to believe that the Korean government would have established their own kind of dark ops corps? I'm pulling out of the blue here, obviously I don't know much of anything about the subject
DragunSouldier 1 year ago
@reginaninja I'm a martial arts enthusiast, I like having my facts straight like anyone else, I don't have the time in my own schedule to delve as deeply as I'd like into the subject. I appreciate any time you, and anyone else volunteers to help me understand all of this
DragunSouldier 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier There is a new book out by Dr. Kacem Zoughari that is the culmination of about 10 years of research into this topic, and it is very detailed and extensive. I would strongly suggest if you wish to know more about this topic, buy this book! The book is called ( The Ninja, Ancient Shadow Warriors of Japan, Secret History of Ninjutsu ).
reginaninja 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier Perhaps they did. I don't know. To my knowledge there are no documented history of such a group. I there was, they would most certainly not have called themselves, or have been called Ninja, or Shinobi as these are Japanese terms.
reginaninja 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier I have a hard time believing anyone who quotes information from a site posted by Ashida Kim on Ninjutsu history. Ashida Kim is probably the biggest fraud that the world martial arts community ever knew and is in now way a credible source. He also quotes Wikipedia, which is also of very questionable reliability, because anyone can go on and modify information. He has never presented any documentation of his own as proof of his claims!
reginaninja 1 year ago
@DragunSouldier Well, I'm sure there would still be those out there that would criticize his techniques from time to time, but I think that would satisfy the vast majority of whom he calls "Haters!", although most of these people are simply critics and do not hate anyone! I think if he were to stop using Japanese terms to describe his Korean art, that would keep most of his Japanese critics happy as well.
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DragunSouldier 1 year ago
i think fat amplifies pain cuz i'm probably roll then sit and cry for a half hour if i rolled on that rock.
FatGuyWithAKatana 1 year ago
that must hurt if you do it wrong
caramelldansen9901 1 year ago
the point is to take ukemi in a way that takes the least out of you, he can take ukemi all day long; but how many times can someone do a judo backfall on concrete -- not very many, before they can't do anymore.
SysAdmin86851 1 year ago
lmfao you call that a roll pmsl
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derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 no i don't do the same stuff as that, because my videos show martial arts not dancing as in modern wushu. if you want me to make videos of me slowly lowering myself with my hands and feet and dancing i can do that, but whats shown in those videos isn't something thats applicable on anything but a completely level surface. if you actually trained in a martial art you'd see what exactly is done to produce the trick of hitting the ground hard in those dance videos you showed.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead
i also second that "modern wushu" isn't seen as applicable in combat
the techniques dean has shown here actually are
which you can see in my comment to second deans answer to suburbanninja
almost direct comparable techniques were used by the assassins who needed to fight templar knights in cities that had streets made of stone tiles all over the place and big plazas made of a concrete like material
any questions about that man ?
Cheerok 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead Exactly you are not doing the same, becuase rolling and falling isnt the same ..you can only roll on the floor like a begginner or a old stiff man so slow . wushu is REAL martial art! You say its a trick? there is a trick or technik to every move in martial art, havent you learned this after 23 years..
sure make a video when you are dancing !! you have no body control just as you show when you try to cut the news paper with your super exclusive sword that you have.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272
I'm sorry, Wushu is a dance. See that panel of judges in the second video? Those folks create a conflict of interest in the practice of your martial art. When scoring becomes on the level of acrobatics, it divorces the practice of Wushu from practicality or efficiency. It looks cool, I'll give you that, but cmon man...
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 there are judges in ufc also. so you would say that jet li isnt a martial artist? capoerira is also a martial art . but it is also a dance.
doesnt matter what you can use in real battle and so on..it is up to the practitioner of the martial art.. not the style it self..and it is still martial art
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272
The judges aren't the problem...it's the goal of the MA. I made a typo in my last post so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. "when scoring becomes [BASED] on the level of acrobatics..."
UFC is based on beating an opponent using a wide range of techniques...namely standup/groundfighting. Therefore to training is catered to achieving proficiency in those areas. Sport Wushu is designed to look pretty for the judges, therefore, training will be directed at doing cool acrobatic moves
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13
I have never seen Jet Li fight someone. Maybe the vids are out there, tbh I've never checked. I can tell you that Jet Li performing a choreographed fight sequence with wires does not convince me that he's a fighter. Capoeira is a dance, and is not a realistic fighting system.
Can you consider square dancing a martial art? What about Yoga? We can argue about semantics but both Wushu and Capoeira encourage the use of highly inefficient movements.
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 you look at martial arts festivals forexample there are capoeira and wushu are included as martial arts.
i know he is doing choreographed fighting.
most of martial art practice fighting drills in a choreographed way and then freestyle.
i dont know how good jet li fights but he is still a martial artist.
no i do not consider square dance a martial art becuase there are no kicks and punches or block or locks and so on same for yoga.
derek4272 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 everyone doesnt think i can do this or that in a real fight..everyone has diffrent goals with martial art.. scoring is for competition but you can still train it with out it.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272
Ok, i see the problem. We have different definitions of what a "martial art" is. For me, a martial art is a combination of principles and techniques that will aid me in a fight. Specifically, a practitioner should be able to minimize the amount damage taken from an opponent while maximizing the amount of injury he/she can inflict on another human being in a fight.
looking cool is a non-issue.
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13
The more a martial art deviates from this end goal...to win a fight and hurt his/her opponent the less effective it is...in my mind. If you train to do acrobatic kicks or silly dances then you are an acrobat or a dancer...
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 for some it is about training for some just winning competition.
for som just a hobby for some it is about selfdefence..for some it is even a way of life.
everyone has a diffrent reason doing it.
for you it is only about hurting your oponent..
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272
woah woah woah. Don't label me like that. I'm talking about definitions here. You seem to think that performance value or aesthetics are valid components to MA, I happen to think think that's silly. I think that at the end of the day...you're training to fight and hurt someone else. I don't like hurting people and I both train and compete because I enjoy it, but without practicality then MA are useless imo.
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 I understand that you think it is silly.
but it is still considerd as martial art and a good way to show that your body is in shape speed and agility.. and at the end of the day some may think that
they got better skill health stornger learned something new and so on.
just becuase goals are diffrent doesnt make it useless.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272
"doesn't make it useless"... the word "useless" is a relative term. A piano is
"useless" for catching fish but it is a very useful instrument if you want to play a song. In just the same way, fancy back flips are useless move in a real fight. Do you hear that? USELESS in a real fight! Can we agree on that? If I'm trying to throw you would you do a backflip? I'm sure the stunts are great exercise but so are weightlifting and Tae Bo and square dancing.
MarshalNey13 1 year ago
@MarshalNey13 the more moves my body is adapted to dancing gymnstics katas fighting drills the better in a fight..
I dont know if would do a backflip if you were trying to throw me, maybe.. maybe not..
what works some doesnt always work for everyone in a fight.
it certanly did for this guy to get the upper hand.
watch?v=vp-FnzQCja8
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 <--- is a noob
badger591 1 year ago
wow thes guys like for you to prove them of how much an fool they are
cvbpo 1 year ago
the t shirt is fake, do it topless
vvushurichard 1 year ago
That is not the christian ninja way to roll, therefore it is wrong, shame on you. It amazes me that chosonninjers still criticize your break falls and rolls after you proved them wrong.
RJPBurtonBoards 1 year ago
Hahahaha 大変術... xD
WireMosasaur 1 year ago
You wern't hurt because Chosen Ninja prayed to Ninja Jesus to protect you.
Dall5000 1 year ago
Rolling like that causes cancer. That's why it's dangerous. You were lucky those sharp rocks didn't carry machine guns.
therealkakkamakkara 1 year ago
chosonninjers if you're going to downvote my video please have the balls to post a comment explaining what was wrong with it.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
Haha, you made a taihen joke! I don't get why people (who've studied the language) don't catch that. Maybe I'm a perv.
twobooks 1 year ago
But... I SAW DIRT! This doesn't count! Rofl! People pick out the dumbest shit to comment on with your videos, man... It's sad that people can't tell someone is wrong when they try to turn everything Korean just because they have ninja fantasies... Nice video.
HonoredNinpo 1 year ago
ITS BLACK MAGIC I SAY!!! *Great vid*
ZSawchuk 1 year ago
Ouch.... looks like it would hurt but you have 20 years in the Mairaly arts no wounder its does not hurt you.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
@SuburbanNinja8000 it only has to do with technique it doesn't have anything to do with my body being different than anyone else's.
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead - your right, my back is fucked up also. I have problems with rolling because of it.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead i second that
the same way of rolling and canceling break falls
exist in the arts of the assassins and they were trained to do that in battle
my master also showed me how to use them in continuation of a jump over a low level sword attack and stuff like that
its an very effective way to evade and get out of range and to absorb fall-damage
Cheerok 1 year ago
@SuburbanNinja8000 dean knows the mairaly art
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake - No Really? Thanks for Captain Ovedrsis.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake - Sorry for being Rude.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
@SuburbanNinja8000 Are you ok man?
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake - just little on the edge a bit. I do know dean has real Training in Ninjutus about 20 years. I just have something about people telling something I all ready knew.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
@SuburbanNinja8000 What that suppose to mean at the end there? what something is that?
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
how do u choose which troll's comments u make a vid about?
kaindrg 1 year ago
@kaindrg i like to go with the ones who are most stupid and most persistent
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
Why aren't you getting hurt?! It's MAGIC!
FossilEntertainment 1 year ago
You are secretly wearing Kevlar aren't you? That must be it! I can't accept the truth so...HAHA. Nice Dean.
grimsdyke 1 year ago
ironically, the only roll where you're liable to get hurt on pavement or rocky roads is a breakfall where you slap the ground...
MarvelmeetsManga 1 year ago
its cause your using you chi scott thats why u arent getting hurt LOL
Strider395 1 year ago
@Strider395 don't give away the secret, maybe i'll do it on hot coals next time
scottbaioisdead 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead
wow first the sword trick and now coals? you have to share that ancient Chinese secret
Strider395 1 year ago
@scottbaioisdead - I would love to see that... more in likely laugh if you get burned for it. Then later on, sorry maybe I should of never laughed.
SuburbanNinja8000 1 year ago
I practice on all kinds of surfaces, rough and smooth, no problem. But, I never fail to sit on my car keys!
erniesbudolab 1 year ago