Reloading Ammunition(case preparation) part 1/4

[firewoodguy2009]

how much you charge for 357 mag reloads case 1000 reloads

[osmanlitorunu1990]

FREEEDOOM *Braveheart*

[burdto1990]

Lee make a new product called collet neck dies in which was made for reloading necked ammunition. You do not need to use lubricate with these

[DemonRat71]

Doesn't Lee make a die set that you can use without lubing the case

[wildernesseducation]

@DemonRat71 only for straight walled pistol cases

[P1LGY]

@DemonRat71 For rifle cases, they sell the carbide dies which it is assumed don't need lubing, but Lee actually says the cases must be lubed even with the fancy carbide dies, which makes these dies somewhat pointless!

[PJIOLIVIER]

Nice video, I normally clean the cases right after I decap and resize. I don't want any lube getting close to the primer pocket.

[bigmikeherring6332]

is it necessary to have a sand tub thing to clean the brass or is that just a fancy way of reloading

[wildernesseducation]

@bigmikeherring6332 it is not nessesary you can just clean you cases with a scotch bright pad or fine wire wool. The case tumbler just makes a realy nice job of cleaning your cases

[sqc281]

@wildernesseducation appreciate the info on the case cleaning, I would assume that you would clean cases extensively for match ammo vs recreational weekend shooting. Thanks again good channel

[wildernesseducation]

@sqc281 for plinking ammo it is really not necessary to go to all of the trouble of extensive cleaning. But for match ammo cases need to be properly cleaned and prepared

[Posterharpua]

what is wilderness eduction?

[wildernesseducation]

@Posterharpua my hobby and channel providing quality information on a wide range of out door and wilderness related topics 

[plec4youu]

one question your scottish, but you must live in america? because i live in england and this is illegal in the UK aswell as owning firearms or ammunitions.???

[wildernesseducation]

@plec4youu it is not illegal to own firearms or to load your ammunition as long as you have a licence issued to you by the police. I live and hunt in scotland

[mycatisromeo]

What do you think of William Wallace?

[MOLRobocop]

@mocatz187 The Lee Auto Prime Hand Priming Tool is currently in stock at Midway USA for $11.69. RCBS sells a similar product for $36. Alternatively, the Lee Anniversary single-stage kit has a priming tool which uses the ram-stroke to seat the primer, if that's what you also happen to have.

[ZuluBravo1]

Whats is the brand and full name of the flash hole deburr

[brecfhelt]

Wow, I can't believe I read a lot of these comments. Clearly some people have issues, and I can understand why Lib's want guns out of some people's hands. Too bad the majority of Conservative Americans are represented by these guys.

[iamjamesmac]

cordiete powder

[clarkscoolskool]

How do you know what kind of powder to use?

[captnoddball]

@clarkscool.............there'­s some books that show what type of powder to use with certain rounds plus differ grain bullets

[clarkscoolskool]

Ok, Thanks.

[curea229]

They may take our lives, but they'll never take OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

[flasher555]

Great vid mate, keep 'em coming.

[wildernesseducation]

Looks good just need some members now you are welcom to embed my videos if you want just be sure to put my channel link in.

[Jiffypistol]

Eduction

[Kopis1911]

i am looking to reload my own ammunition. I've already got an instrutional book on the way. I was wondering if there is a specific kit of some kind that I can use just to start out with that you may recomend.

[TknoFlyer]

I've recently started looking at reloading and I have to agree with some of the others here. Considering the time commitment, the cost of factory loads looks very competitive. Realistically, how much time is involved in reloading (from collecting brass to cleaning and everything in betwee to firing the reload)?

[wildernesseducation]

What calibers are you shooting mate?. If you are shooting lots of pistol ammo you can get a progressive press that does each each stage of the reloading process with each pull of the lever and gives you a loaded round with each pull.

Compared to the single stage press which takes three pulls to load one round so the process i use is not the quickest.

Type in Dillon 550 to youtube and have alook at that machine. From start to finnish for 50 rd for me and my press 1 1/2 to 2 hours

[wildernesseducation]

What takes the most time is measuring the powder. I measure each load down to 1/10th of a grain but that is the price of accuracy.

If it Blasting ammo for semi auto rifles or pistols you can use an Auto powder which throws a set volume of powder. If i used that techneque i could load 50 rds in 45 mins on my single stage press. This meathod is not as accurate as individualy measuring each load on scales. A dillon 550 b when set up can load 400-500 rd an hour

[drewd1987]

What type of primer should I buy for 7,62x39?

[wildernesseducation]

Thats a good question and the answer is .....

It depends most 7.62x 39 brass uses large rifle primers however some companys did make thier 7.62 x 39 brass with small rifle primers like remington. I would check to make sure if the primer in the 7.62x39 brass is larger than the primer in 223 brass it is a larg rifle primer.

Most 7.62x39 brass uses Larg rifle primer thier will be no need for match quality or magnum primers when loading for 7.62x39 just use standard larg rifle primers

[drewd1987]

Thank you very much :)

Is that a Lee brand kit you have?

I've been thinking of starting to reload due to the ammo shortage here across the pond. There's always tons of brass to be found on the range :)

[wildernesseducation]

yeah i use lee kit it is cheap and very servisable

Have alook at my reloading FAQ video were i answer some questions on priming systems alot of the brass you might find is berdan primed which is not reloadable this is becuase 7.62x39 is a military caliber and military case often use berdan priming system

[MrShotze]

@wildernesseducation Berdan primed is reloadable

It requires drilling a hole into the berdan primer so it can be removed

I use a drill press with a cartrige holder so I hit exact center

I find Berdan primed cartriges like laquer coated steel are far more reliable then brass

I have one steel cartrige that is up to 45 reloads so far with no mishaps

[wow999111]

nice vid, but you should have mentioned the caution of the Berdan primer, and to look for it before you resize, less you break the primer punch-pin. Not cool to break a die set. This should be included.

[wow999111]

It all comes down to cost. My wife & I are on pace to consume around 8000 rounds a year. At the best price we can get 1 round of ours at just over 50 cents. With reloading we can invest a few hundred in equipment, and then reduce our cost to less than 15 cents a round. We are looking at saving around $3,000.00 the first year. That will easily pay for more firearms, and more ammo. If you have disposable income, spend away. But there are more than financial gains here.

[Buffalowdown]

Man, that's seems really time intensive. I've been looking at the cost of reloading supplies and it's close to even on just buying factory ammo. Take into account the amount of time it takes to reload cartridges, it doesn't seem to make sense. Am I missing something, Wildernesseducation?

[disturbedone5009]

Over time the cost savings increase pretty dramatically. Not to mention you can custom fit the ammo to your rifle making it much more accurate. To get ammo even close to as accurate as what you can produce would cost a lot of money. Plus many people find it enjoyable as part of the shooting hobby.

[Buffalowdown]

Thanks for the response. I would enjoy reloading as part of my hobby, that I understand, but I can't get into it right now. Primarily because I shoot mostly 9mm pistols. Reloading 9mm is considerably more expensive to self load. When I get more into rifles and/or have particular ammo requirements, I'll probabaly make the reloading investment.

[wildernesseducation]

Sorry i missed your first question so let me answer your statement about it being more expensive to home load pistol ammo i will give you a break down of what it costs to load a box of 50 115gn 9mm. And i am using Midwayusa prices. 115fmj 10cent, 4gn red dot powder 1 cent, cci primer 3cent total cost of per round is 14 cent that is $7 for 50. I am sure that you can gut get the FMJ bullets cheaper else were. The cheapest steel cased wolf ammo is $12 a box and UMC brass cased is $15 a box.

[wildernesseducation]

So that is half the price for equivalent factory brass cased factory load. Time wise their are progressive presses like the lee load master and the dillan 550b that automate the reloading process and give you a completed round with each pull of the lever. The dillan 550 will load 550 rounds an hour non stop. Reloading equipment is expensive but ammo is getting more expensive all the time and if you are saving $7 + a box it won't take long for you to pay for your investment.

[disturbedone5009]

Ammo prices are always rising. It may be cheaper now, if at all, but it won't always be like that. Besides the benefit of reloading your own ammo due to the accuracy gains would more than make up for the cost. Like I said to get the same quality ammo would cost a lot more than just standard factory ammo. If you really took the time to look at the factory ammo like weigh it and measure the OAL there is a large tolerance which makes the ammo pretty inaccurate.

[wildernesseducation]

Accuracy wise you gain very little from loading pistol ammo as you are shooting at 25 yards most high volume pistol shooter reload to reduce ammo cost especially if you are shooting cast lead bullets for target shooting. Rifle shooting your major gain is accuracy and being able to develop gun and use specific loads. But their are also worth while cost savings to be made.

[idealflaw]

i'm wondering the same thing. it looks fun and therapeutic, and perhaps it'd be prudent to gather and store the brass for a later date when it does justify costs,, but currently, this looks VERY labor intensive. the level of detail, caution and processes involved seem to make it seem like not worth the effort. Missing something here?

[Buffalowdown]

Yeah man, I've been looking into it more. Reloading makes some sense if you use rare ammunition, or if you want to really specify your ammo for accuracy. Outside of that, there's not a lot going for it. The cost savings is either negligable, or not existent. Especially if you mostly shoot something common and "cheap" i.e 9mm. Even if I wanted to, I don't have the time to do it, or the hundreds of dollars needed for initial investment. My 2 cents.

[malaymercernary]

@Buffalowdown it make sense when you reload 9mm bullets with custom steel penetrator that will cut through level 4 bullet proof vest like hot knife through butter.

[Buffalowdown]

U might want to look into the legal ramifications of that.

[malaymercernary]

@Buffalowdown its totally legal if nobody knows where you keep it and it cannot be proven to be purchased or owned by you.

[Buffalowdown]

That's the point man. If your loading your own rounds to puncture body armor, then that is what they do. No body knows you have them until you use them (shoot somebody). Whenever u shoot somebody u will see a jury. If you are handloading "cop killer" rounds, the law will fuck you.

[malaymercernary]

@Buffalowdown when you shoot somebody you take precautions. use separate unmarked gun barrel--->the pigs will not get a ballistics match with your legal gun. no finger prints on the bullet catridge. use sound suppressors to avoid detection. and most importantly get rid of the evidence. no dead body no murder case. just another missing person. you catch my drift?

[Buffalowdown]

@malaymercernary

Oh, I guess the confusion is coming from the fact that I thought I was talking to a normal person.

When somebody breaks into my house and I am forced to defend my life, I don't use illegal firearms to do the job, and then bury the body in the desert.

You are talking about murder. Specifically YOU being a murderer. In that case, you can go suck a dick. Of course this is all pending that even one word you say is true. Have fun being a tough guy.

[malaymercernary]

buffalowdown, take it easy man. i'm not telling you to kill anybody. i'm telling you HOW to do it the right way. when you want to kill someone be it for personal or professional reason, you must do it the right way. its like getting your driving licence, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY and you're ok. comprende?

[Buffalowdown]

Dude, personal or professional reasons to kill somebody? In what way are you not talking about murder?

Thanks, but I will never need your advise on how to conceal evidence and dispose of bodies. You got issues dude. Issues.

[MsObamasucks]

@Buffalowdown

Lad, you're out of touch. Defending yourself is NOT murder. U don't understand that do you. I can see you shouldn't own a weapon, you'll only get hurt. I've been shot at, pistol whipped, because the bum thought I had they wanted. My 11 Y/o was abducted &murdered. It won't happen again I promise you. Get your concealed handgun permit, learn the laws. When you take guns away from law abiding citizens ONLY criminals will have guns.

Sorry I called you a dick, ur just uninformed.

[MagneticDog]

First and foremost I am a staunch supporter of firearms and carry daily.

Second, you or I do not determine what IS and IS NOT murder. A jury does. If you shoot somebody who breaks into your house, you will stand in front of the man. And that jury will rely on the facts reported by investigators.

You need to educate yourself, because there are still states in the union that have self defense laws that completely differ from your "all defense scenarios are perfectly legal" mentality.

[MagneticDog]

Furthermore, my original comments on this vid were directed at another person who was blathering on about murdering people with wildcat loads and hiding bodies.

Blatant murder aside. Ask any investigator: If you handload defensive rounds, and especially if you hand load super hot rounds (referred to as "cop killers"), that will work AGAINST you when you are explaining your side of the story to a jury of your peers.

Thanks for apologizing for calling me a dick. Name calling is baby stuff.

[MsObamasucks]

@Buffalowdown

You don't have to bury the body. Just call the police, let em know someone broke into your house, threatened & you defended yourself. You have a right to defend yourself and your family. Tell you what, you break into my house your a dead man charlie brown, someone else can bury u. No need to bother to hide a thing. So you can suck your own dick, dick. Understand ? To take a life without cause is murder, break into my house & I'll make your ma ma cry cuz she won't recognize you.

[Katashtrophie]

Spelling mistake on title credits - 'eduction' ?

Same on a few more of your vids

But ..... Fantastic anyway, thanks

[204shooter]

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[Mrcaffinebean]

awesome accent.

[bledfourdays1]

Thanks a lot for posting!

[sketchieninja]

I like these videos they are very imformative. Although very time consuming for the amount of ammunition I go through. There is no way in heck I would do that for 100+ cartridges so I could go shooting :P

[bournefreak]

wen ur resizing the case how do u know when its back to factory dimensions? coz u dont use a sheet or any measurments

[wildernesseducation]

The internal dimensions of the die are the same as factory new dimensions. So I know that when I full length resize the case it goes back to the dimensions for a brand new unfired case. The easiest way for you to tell is to take a fired case and and resized case and try and seat a bullet with your fingers. The bullet will slip into neck of the fired case no problem but if you try the same thing with the resized case you wont be able push the bullet in to the neck because it has been resized

[Kopis1911]

how many times can you re-use one case?

[wildernesseducation]

You have to inspect cases before you reload them to make sure that their are no signs the base of the case starting to stretch away from the main body of the case also look or any splits and cracks in the case neck and body. Basically look for anything abnormal. Most cases you can reload about 5 times mabey more but Lapua cases have such hi quality brass that their cases last for more than 10 reloads just inspect them to make sure that they are safe to reload

[gastonlv]

Nice video, thanks you. Just a suggestion. More lighting would make your video resolution greater. A total of about 1200 watts of any warmth for this type of video would work.

[penguinistas]

nice series of reloading videos. thank you for posting them.

[PhilTakken]

Bloody awsome set of vids mate, thanks, i just got a .223 and the ammo is costing me a fortune.

[The2ndAmendmentGuy]

Americans and everyone else in the gun owning world PAY ATTENTION. This is important!

Thanks for your video dude.

[idsman75]

Do you have to routinely clean your dies in order to prevent buildup of reloading lubricant?

Thanks. Brand new to this and am trying to learn as much as possible.

[wildernesseducation]

i have never cleaned my dies. Thier is abit lube build up on them but it dose not effect the resising process. Infact thelittle bit of lube on the inside of the die will prevent corrosion and prevent stuck cases. If you are worried about lube building up on the inside you can take the die apart but some dies may have a factory preset on them which you may effect. On my lee dies thier is nothing in the instructions about cleaning them. Mine have loaded thousands of rounds with no problem

[sxwatson]

Keeping your resizing die clean in important. Carbon and gunk build up on the die can cause run out in the case necks which will increase group size.

[idsman75]

If you are dealing with a large quantity of brass, can you just tumble it again for 30 minutes in order to remove the lubricant? Do you remove the lubricant from inside the neck or do you leave that in the neck in order to assist with the seating of the bullet?

[wildernesseducation]

if the lube does not degrade gun powder then i don't bother to wipe the inside of the neck it does not make any difference to the seating process. If you tuble the brass after you have resized to remove the lube you will find that the corn cob media will get stuck in the flash holes and then you will have to inspect each one. It is better just to wipe the case with a soft cloth before the priming stage.

[idsman75]

The Sierra reloading manual says not to get case lube on the neck or the shoulder but you put it on the neck. I'm brand new to this. Why is there a discrepancy.

Thanks for your informative videos!

[wildernesseducation]

you will find that if you don't tube the neck in side and out case will stretch when you withdraw it from the die because it has stuck slightly in the die. this meens that you will have to trim more brass of the case to get it back to the corect length. Sierra may specifi not to put lube on the neck becuse it might case dents in the shoulder case by the hydrauilc pressure cased by the lube inside the die. But i have never had a problem with this cause i don't use oil based lube

[idsman75]

I thought you only used a primer pocket uniforming tool and flash hole deburring tool on virgin brass to remove imperfections left at the factory. Do you use these tools with once and twice-fired brass? Is there a risk of cutting away too much brass?

[wildernesseducation]

The primer pocket uniformer can be used also to clean the case pocket so use it every time you reload. The flashhole deburing tool only needs to be used once on brass and can be used at any stage in the brasses life. I use both on once fire brass. The lee trimmers have a length gauge that are caliber specific just buy the one for what ever you are reloading and it will alow you to trim the case to the exact dimentions without the risk of taking off too much

[jubbles2343]

also how would lubricant on the outside of the case cause high pressures? cant imagine how it would.

[wildernesseducation]

Lubricant dosen't compress so if you still have lubricant on the outside of the case when you fire the round, the case may have a problem expanding to fit the chamber becuase you cannot compress the lubricant. This could cause high powder presures if you are firing a hot load. Also with all that heat and preasure the lubricant could start to bake on to the inside of you chamber and it will start to effect accuracy and again could cause high powder preasures. Ammo should be clean of lube and oil

[jubbles2343]

I dont length size, I neck size, I have found that not length sizing has improved accuracy greatly.

[MindBullets2142]

primer is basicly the metal or substance that the firing pin hits, and transfers the energy to the powder yes?

[wildernesseducation]

you got it, primer is the brass bit in the center of the cartridge it is full of shock sensitive material that ignights when the pin hits it the flame then travels through the flash hole and ignights the powder

[SavageHmr]

The lock stud is made for a hand drill it gos faster with it. The deluxe kit from lee will come with eveything you need to start with.

[plzhelpj]

Hey, I just watched the 4 part series and wanted to say great videos. How did you get into reloading; did you get a formal education?

[wildernesseducation]

I did allot of reading on the subject and also took advice from experience reloaded.

[flywithken]

Just started reloading and watched your series. They are great.

One question, why do we not want to get any lube on the shoulder?

Thanks!

[wildernesseducation]

Sorry about the lateness of the reply i have been on holiday. You don't want to get lube on the shoulder of the case because it is not actually getting sized so their is no need to have that part lubricated. Also if you have to much lube on the shoulder it can cause hydraulic pressure inside that die that can dent the case and damage it.

[lllottolll]

You wiped the lubricant off the case. Was the same done to inside of the case neck?

[wildernesseducation]

After i size the cases i wipe the lubricant off of the out side of the case because when you fire the round lubricant can cause excess chamber pressure. On the inside of the case you put very little lube on anyway and most of it is taken of by the Die during sizing process. I don't wipe the inside of the neck for this reason but check to make sure that the lube that you are using dose not degrade the powder. If you are still in doubt use a cotton bud to wipe the inside of the neck

[mxf7010g8k]

taking a lot of ur advise im getting a 223 rifle sometime and was planning on getting the remington 700 srs varmint but ive heard good things about the tikka t3 and cing ur vid and others on youtube it was the kicker

[wildernesseducation]

It is very easy to dent the shoulder of the case with hydraulic pressure if their is to much of an oil based lube on the shoulder when you re-size the case. I agree that if you use a dry lube it should not be a problem but having said that the shoulder of the case is not being resized it is only the neck and the body that are so their is no need lube the neck. As i have no control over what lube people use i recommended not lubing the shoulder of the case to prevent problems with denting

[lovshooting]

just spread dillon's dried lube all over it. I have never had a problem with the shoulder. What's the objection?

[astondriver]

how many times can you reload a single case, safely?

[wildernesseducation]

You have to inspect cases before you reload them to make sure that their are no signs the base of the case starting to stretch away from the main body of the case also look or any splits and cracks in the case neck and body. Basically look for anything abnormal. Most cases you can reload about 5 times mabey more but Lapua cases have such hi quality brass that their cases last for more than 10 reloads just inspect them to make sure that they are safe to reload

[AngelusFromHell]

Resizing the neck only will give to cases more life. I heard some handreloader can reload a case (Lapua 7,62x53R) up to 16 times!

[wildernesseducation]

thier is no question about it lapua brass is some of the highest quality brass out their a box of 100 will almost out shoot the barrel in you rifle

[flanum]

btw, whos the uilleann piper in the intro music?

[hellfire00119]

love the accent man, I wish i could adapt it :D!

great vid by the way, love how you show "every" step!

[wildernesseducation]

When you fire a round the case expands and makes a tight fit with the chamber the expanding gases also cause the case to elongate and stretch. when you resize the case you are squezing the case back to the dimentions that it was before it was fired. This is important so that cases will feed properly and expand the same as the last rounds. Trimming is the process of cutting off excess brass off the neck of the case as the case streches so that the length dose not exceed maximum case length

[AirVigilante]

Thanks for the videos. Being interested in reloading using similar means, this was very helpful. What is re-sizing vs. trimming?