ShuffleTech Automatic Shuffler for Home Poker Games

[dan27i]

you have to the procedure at least 7 times, if you want to have the cards really shuffled

[kcg5000]

@dan27i what procedure do you mean? RRSR? that is never repeated

[CardsharkOnline]

@kcg5000 RRSR is short for the Riffle-Riffle-Strip-Riffle shuffling cycle, which is the casino industry standard for manual shuffles. Hope this answers your question.

[mlcoo17]

Wow, did you see how many suited connectors there are? Yes, I know they won't be dealt out in that order, but the point is that a shuffle is supposed to randomize and this is NOT random. Also the ace of spades is still in the same spot. I'm not so sure I want this machine now. I was thinking about it but this is very revealing. Wow, that's not so cool.

[CardsharkOnline]

@mlcoo17 And how does that compare to a manual RRSR shuffle? Riffle shuffles have a typical flaw, which is why it takes 7 riffle shuffles to truly randomize a deck of cards. This means that a manual RRSR shuffle (standard casino shuffle) is also not random. That's a flaw that has been exploited by advantage player for a long time.

[mlcoo17]

@CardsharkOnline Your reply got me thinking about a dealer's standard 3 riffles and a strip. So, I did some tests with standard fresh deck ordering and casino shuffles. My results showed that you average about 1 instance of suited connectors for the entire deck with a casino shuffle. The shuffle tech is WAY worse than that. If you don't believe me try it and see for yourself. I would only use the maximum shuffle setting on this machine, and I'm going to stick with using using my hands for now.

[mlcoo17]

@CardsharkOnline At your suggestion and out of curiosity I did the experiment myself and a manual RRSR is FAR better than the results shown in this video, I mean it wasn't even close. If nobody believes me do it yourself. 

[CardsharkOnline]

@mlcoo17 Thank you for taking the time to follow up on this.

I am actually a fan of manual shuffles and am in no way saying that this machine should replace the good old shuffles. I simply posted this video to show this machine because I thought it's interesting.

Regarding shuffles in general. A standard casino RRSR shuffle does have flaws, regardless how it compares to the shuffle performed by this machine. Do many players really know how to exploit those flaws? I don't think so.

[CardsharkOnline]

@mlcoo17 ...cont'd... The only difference between a manual RRSR and the RRSR cycle performed by ShuffleTech is in the strip. The strip was introduced to shuffling sequences precisely for the purpose of breaking sequences. The strip in the ShuffleTech is in fact inferior to that of a manual shuffle.

From a practical POV. When you do a test starting with the cards in numerical order you see suited connectors. But, when you start with mixed cards, after a wash, can anyone really spot the slugs?

[milf8707]

simple shuffler. but not a good spread still see some straits in there ... i use a shuffle master deck mate...  has the best spread out there

[CardsharkOnline]

@milf8707 The ShuffleTech was designed for consumer use. The ShuffleMaster Deck Mate is a casino grade shuffler. Also, there is a big price difference. The ShuffleTech is 500 bucks, while the Deck Mate costs as much as a car. I'm sure you will agree that these two products cannot really be compared with each other. It would actually be really bad for ShuffleMaster if their product wasn't better than a consumer grade shuffler.