GH3 Knights of Cydonia 100% FC PS2 NO HYPERSPEED!!!

[jawnintendoSH]

I can safely say that the Wii version does NOT suffer from this problem

[goyankeesandgh]

I beat this score on PS2 without hyperspeed :D

[f4phantom2500]

@goyankeesandgh awesome good job

[XxSt4RLiiGhTxX]

i beat this song on ps3 controller its so frikkin stupid the struming parts

[5axeso]

no puedo en ps2 en experto

[ChrisTolmeth]

I forget, but why again was this supposedly so hard on ps2?

[f4phantom2500]

@ChrisTolmeth there's a very detailed description of the issue in the description.

[ChrisTolmeth]

@f4phantom2500 Whoopsie doodles. I couldn't find the "show more" button because of YT's new format.

[f4phantom2500]

@ChrisTolmeth its all good

[Gerryk003]

Starring: Chewbacca as the bass player

[pigfish99]

The drummer is a robot.

[luvcookies1]

haha i agree with EderRedfield at 1:23 :D

[rookie229]

this song is easy, beat it on DualShock

[f4phantom2500]

@rookie229 sweet

[EderRedfield]

the activation at 1:23 must feel so damn badass

[AndOfTheDeath]

Easy FC

[f4phantom2500]

@AndOfTheDeath agreed. very easy.

[Masmelloking]

@f4phantom2500

lol why should it be easy? its a hard strumming... and btw im not a noob^^

[f4phantom2500]

@Masmelloking sorry i didn't reply to this before...it's not "easy" per se, but compared to a lot of the other songs i've fc'ed, it is pretty dang easy.

[leonald423]

I don't know so much about GH, so what's the difference between normal an hyper speed? is more dificult playing with superspeed? thanks!

[lillepackerd]

hyper speed is faster like if youre having hyper speed 5 on eazy it goes fast as expert

[f4phantom2500]

@leonald423 hyperspeed spreads the notes out so that the visible distance between each note is greater. this makes the chart scroll faster, so that each note spends less time on the screen. some people find it easier to use hyperspeed because they can see the separation between the notes better, while others, myself included, find it easier without hyperspeed because you get more time to see each note.

[StepsToNowhere]

looks better without hyperspeed i must say.

[RatedREntertainment]

nice butno hyperspeed dosent mean anything

[f4phantom2500]

jesus christ...read the description.

[RatedREntertainment]

sorry man. i tend not to read those rofl. nice video

[f4phantom2500]

lol its all good dude, its a hefty description haha.

[GuitarHeroRare]

hey fantom, this is Xo Rare Xo, haha i beat ur score, got 512.2 =) nice fc, my fc was on 360

[agentx3]

Nice FC dude

[syccozpath7983]

your awsomeeeeeee dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cankarales]

3:10 - 4:04 my favorite part!

[Rainforest002]

does YouTube understand the meaning of the fuckin word medium? btw nice playin dude

[VoltagePictures]

Why dont you got WORLD TOUR, RB1, RB2?

[f4phantom2500]

i have world tour but i pretty much never play it. i fc'ed everything in rb1 except for green grass and high tides, and i dont have rb2.

[Sasuke22p2]

Amazing fc, im 13 and dont have the strongest arm so i get tired out at around the middle part any suggestions on how to make it easier?

[Dannytrogdor]

in bed

[GreysAnatomyFan1994]

how do u activate cheat codes?! cuz i have gh4 and i wanna use hyperspeed.

[f4phantom2500]

just google guitar hero world tour cheats.

[GreysAnatomyFan1994]

i know the cheat code!

i need to figure out how to activate it..and its not on google...anywhere.

[VoltagePictures]

There is no GH4, and it IS on google, i know for sure, and to activate it you need to go to "cheatS" and type in what it says in google for which buttons to press.

[GreysAnatomyFan1994]

yes there is gh4.its called guitar hero world tour.its on google..look it up.and how to activate them is NOT on google.the only reason I found out is because of my friends.i already had the cheat codes.

[PowerSlaveAlfons]

options...cheats...

[karen101101101]

OMG how do you hit all those notes at the end

too much strumming

[johnvattic1234]

When I FC'd this it felt so good to hit that final yellow note at 3:04.

[PrivateMaster]

So this is the PS2 version. Which guitar were you using? Wired or Wireless?

[f4phantom2500]

wired. i always use the SG for ps2.

[PrivateMaster]

Do you have Guitar Hero 1 and 2?

[VoltagePictures]

He has 1,2,3,80s

[ZackT2]

your name looks like fap phantom

[f4phantom2500]

thanks...?

[cheesebuyer]

i still suck at it on medium

[SoN1CBooM139]

Is there any trick to nailing the lag spikes? I put it on HS 4 but I still get destroyed by the lag.

[f4phantom2500]

ignore the video and just make sure you're strumming at a consistent speed.

[superrunescapenerd]

w/ is hyperspeed lol soz i sound stupid

[therealstephboo]

GO FUK URSELF NOOB

[stupidmonkeys8]

ok i will

[therealstephboo]

yea u better ur my bitch

[superrunescapenerd]

dude why dont people just tell me what hyperspeed is rather then yelling at me? i didnt know what it was now i do geez you guys take it really badly

[f4phantom2500]

it basically spreads the notes out further apart and makes them come at you faster. it's exactly the same, it's just that some people find it easier because they can read the notes better when they're more spaced out.

[undahmongoose96792]

4:06-5:42 i would miss alot of(lol)

[Winterbourne2k]

3:38-4:02, I fail that part, it's insane. Hate those triplets, grr...

[elapichoo]

same

[elapichoo]

dude nice FC i dont know much of hyperspeed cos i dont have gh but it was awesome :D

[tyler62992]

i hate you. teach me to fc this =[

[evanrulez12]

fc is a full combo

[LlamaMan999]

Question: How long did it take you to get a comfortable speed and good consistency on the fast alt strumming parts? I ask because I'm currently stuck on this song, mainly because of the galloping bloody triplets but it would help me to be able to actually stay in top green when going into it alot. My alt strum is too slow to keep up though, I miss every 5th note or so...it's frustrating.

[blobzorz]

well from the time i sat down and started trying to fc the song, it took me about 45 minutes before i had this video. the strumming is just straight up triplets, so as long as you can stay in time it's not too hard...unless of course it's difficult for you to strum that fast without getting tired.

[AZNYe]

did u pass "before i forget" becuase i think this song is the ezist of the section "live in japan" and the alt strumming is up and down fast and endure the pain from ur arm

[f4phantom2500]

firstly blobzorz comment was me, i was using his computer.

secondly i dont exactly know what you're saying, but of course i've passed before i forget <_<.

[OpiateReqium]

do you know what the NPS for the fast strumming is?

[f4phantom2500]

~13.7 nps.

[OpiateReqium]

*sigh* cant they just leave them at whole numbers?

[f4phantom2500]

well it's all based on tempo.

[supersaiyans]

I had trouble with the triplets too, what you should try and do even though everyone might call you a noob is keep your hand strumming at the begginning of every triplet, so if you are tapping and you miss a note, you can just re strum, as for the alt strumming paths, if you have the song raining blood, it has a fast tremolo section that goes slightly slower, but it could get you up to speed, other than that I have no Idea what to tell you.

[xXBullsOnParadeXx]

whats an fc?

[f4phantom2500]

fc is short for full combo, which means 100% without any extra strums.

[aperez8696]

u screwed up on one long note

[f4phantom2500]

i know, still an fc though.

[KilluanRawrAKAChris]

This is freaking crazy. Without hyperspeed and with lag and you play overhand. You are a god.

[kikook222]

Hyperspeed only helps people that have issues reading the notes when close together. I rarely use it. But this song isnt that hard to FC til you get the the Triple Triumphant that parts hard on expert.

[KilluanRawrAKAChris]

The end is easy for me. The only part I had trouble with was FCing the strumming parts. Eventually I got it.

[kikook222]

I dont strum up and down on fast parts. So im always good with struming fast. But unlike strumming up and down its a bit harder to keep the rhythm so its easier to mess up.

[KilluanRawrAKAChris]

If you don't up and down strum on fast parts how the hell do you combo in KoC?

[kikook222]

I can strum normal really quick. I can never keep the beat when strumming up and down. So I use 2 fingers like a pick and strum down quick.

[f4phantom2500]

kikook222:

read the bigass thing i wrote about lag spikes and why i made a point to mention no hyperspeed in the description.

[kikook222]

I know I was just mentioning that Hyperspeed doesnt help or hurt you.

[mstwntd69]

it helps alot of ppl. i do way better with HS

[kikook222]

I dont do any better with HS but when I like using it because it makes me not want to rush the notes. Some times when playing a fast song I kinda spaz if im not using HS.

[Rockskater44]

that solos sooooo easy to fc

[sawgb]

i always fuck up at the end =(

[bestdamnballer20]

bro i cant do the fuckin triplets i hate that i mess up and its over cant get back

[f4phantom2500]

i assume that's because the screen's split in two so each half is only half the resolution of single player...just a guess though.

[121twe]

have you beaten THROUGH THE FIRE AND FLAMES? what's your score?

[f4phantom2500]

lol, 820k. haven't tried to improve it since march, though *shrug*.

[121twe]

you should try! i bet you can do better!

[f4phantom2500]

yeah if i really really tried and spent months on it i'm sure i could fc it, but i really don't want to put a shitload of effort into a song that i won't be able to fc for a long time. i'd rather spend the time working on easier songs, like hangar 18, jordan, etc. in the long run, it'll still make me better. eventually i'll work more on ttfaf.

[121twe]

guess you're right. that way your effort and work will be more productive. did you get GH: On Tour?

[f4phantom2500]

lol no i dont have a ds. i probably wont get aerosmith either, frankly it's too easy <_<. i should be getting a 360 and rock band soon, though.

[121twe]

well On Tour is a lot harder than i expected because the strumming is weird. if you ever play it, tell me your opinion on it. are you also going to get GH: World Tour?

[f4phantom2500]

probably

[121twe]

wow! i was going to get them both but decided to just get World Tour cuz i think it's better. won't buying both be a lot of money?

[f4phantom2500]

lol probably

[121twe]

well good luck with everything and keep ROCKING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[f4phantom2500]

u 2 man u 2

[121twe]

thanks but i'm only ok at GH while you're like PRO!!!!!!!!!!!! any tips?

[f4phantom2500]

practice? lol. if you haven't played gh1, it pretty much forces you to be better at the other games since you have to strum the solos.

[121twe]

i don't like practicing anything cuz it usually doesn't help but if you think it'll work, i guess i'll give it a try. i've only played GH3 and GH On Tour so i don't have much experience.

[SHAuriscope]

Quick question, is it better to stop strumming briefly on the hopos is RRRRRRRRR G R YYYYYYYYY R Y BBBBBBB, or just strum through?

[f4phantom2500]

well the hopos are actually a different speed than the strumming, so i stop. it's like sets of 9 strum notes, 2 hopos, 9 strum notes, 2 hopos...so its not that bad once you get that down (i think its 9 lol).

[SHAuriscope]

Thanks, I used to strum through them and get it every time, but now I always overstrum. o.o

[f4phantom2500]

lol whenever i'd strum through it i'd overstrum. perhaps you strum like slightly slower than the speed of the strumming, so since the gh3 engine is so loose it just averages it out with the hammer ons, making you not miss...i guess?

[hawkman8706]

Hey its me again. anything over 700k is beastly. My high is only 592k, barely a 5 star lol. Nice FC. I can FC except for 3:38-3:42. I dont get along well with the ORG's. :(

[f4phantom2500]

try tapping

[midwestco]

ive only noticed it on fast picking parts

[midwestco]

hmm thats why when i activate my 1st sp on dragonforce it does that now i know what that is called thank you

[f4phantom2500]

yep that's exactly why.

[evil3332]

on the guitar on this song on expert or hard for me the funnest parts are the ammending chorus 3:10-3:38 and the galloping triplets 3:38-4:05

[wudgeypudger]

were there any lag spikes in this run?

[f4phantom2500]

yes. the most apparent one is right around the 3 minute mark in this vid. on the part where it goes OOOOBBBBYYYYBBBBYYYYRRRRGGGGGG­GG, it did it over almost the entire 2nd string of Ys.

[EasyToRememberr]

Why do you pause right in the beginning?

[f4phantom2500]

to make sure i'd started recoring.

[HaloShenanigans]

Oh, okay.

[agenttaco91]

omg all of these people are retarded. A lag spike has nothing to do with calibrate lag.  Calibrate lag is for when your screen and console are off sync. A lag spike is when the ps2 has trouble processing everything and makes the notes freeze for a split second. Goddamn retards.

[f4phantom2500]

yep, you're absolutely right. i assumed my description woulda been enough, but i guess i gave youtube viewers too much credit.

[99Sorc]

lag spike can happen on any game at any time, get over it. nub

[BaconSupreme]

Yeah, thing is, they actually matter during a RHYTHM game.

[99Sorc]

you can calibrate lag though anyways so it doesnt matter

[f4phantom2500]

...do you know what a lag spike is? nub.

[higgylebron23]

does the ps3 have any lag might i ask?

[f4phantom2500]

not sure, but i know the ps3 controller drops notes and stuff. nobody's fc'ed it on ps3.

[DarkLinkSkywalker]

That might not be true. There's probably lots of people who have. They probably just didn't tell anyone.

[f4phantom2500]

doubt that. have you ever played on the ps3?

[MaggotSoldier666]

nice, i got this yesterday, except on 360 with hyperspeedx3, i got 510,770pts. i also 100% number of the beast yesterday, got a vid of that, but i didnt fc it.

[lilchrondog]

wow takes a lot of skill without hyperspeed, i use hs 5 my highest on knights of cydonia so far is 325, and advice on the fast strumming?

[f4phantom2500]

as far as ignoring the lag spikes or as far as keeping the rhythm steady?

for ignoring the lag spikes (dunno if that affects you on HS 5), focus solely on keeping your strumming at the same speed.

for that, count your downstrums and make sure you're keeping a steady triplet beat.

[nickobrien823]

sorry squeeing??? what is it???

[f4phantom2500]

squeezing is basically where you abuse the timing window such that you strum a note at the beginning of a star power activation late, or at the end of a star power activation early, so that you get more notes under star power.

[nickobrien823]

whats sqeuuzing?

[dodgerfan4lifedawg]

yeah man im just that good....damn straight

[dodgerfan4lifedawg]

since when did ttfaf become hard to fc its cake (i hope you know im sarcastic)

[f4phantom2500]

that was sarcasm? fooled me.

[dodgerfan4lifedawg]

YOU CAN GET RABL? YOU BASTARD XD you know what i just realized i have commented on like every one of your vids lmao

[f4phantom2500]

yep pretty much lol.

rabl isnt really that crazy because it's in gh3. gh3 charts have to be SUPER INSANE to be REALLY hard to fc, like one or ttfaf.

[dodgerfan4lifedawg]

lrn 2 fc 67songs on gh3 =)

[f4phantom2500]

lol whenever i get back to gh3 ill probably just get 68.

[philifredd]

how do u unlock this song for ps2

[f4phantom2500]

you mean like how did i do it? i used the unlock all code because i didn't have a memory card at the time.

but if you play through career mode, it's in the 7th tier.

[vlozon121]

good job dude, i can only get like a 95%

[artgeek12583]

i agree with u with the lag spikes

i tried this with no hyperspeed (memory card screwed itself while saving) but i usually get between 420k-450k and only miss like 8-15 notes but i unusally missed 30 notes and mainly in the beginning with the fast picking

but nice job

[decaskateboarder]

they made izzy sparks look really gay in gh3 on PS2. I only have it on PS2 so i don't know about the other platforms its on but they really fucked him up on the PS2.

[LewysThompson1994]

dude your awesome i am thinking of subcribeing to you if that is how its spelled =] ( Lerr me into your subcribnuss )

[f4phantom2500]

lol just do it all u gotta do is click the little subscribe button next to my name above the video description.

and thanks for the compliments!

[OMGItsMeels]

Holy shit. 0.O

[ThunderPower]

Looking at the "lag spikes", the 360 suffers from the same thing - at least my console and disk does. Whatever.

[f4phantom2500]

trust me, it's not nearly as bad on the 360.

[ThunderPower]

I beg to differ; the lag spikes exist on most, if not all the console - especially the PC version.

[f4phantom2500]

whatever dude. have you played it on ps2? why do you think only like 8 people have fc'ed it on ps2 (one of them didn't even use sp at all), but like 30 on 360?

[Darkhavans]

I don't have any problems with lag spikes on the 360 version, but when I played my PS2 version a while back, it was terrible. I have to agree with f4

[ThunderPower]

Maybe because the majority of players are on the 360?

[f4phantom2500]

that doesn't make any sense...

you can't really tell where the lag spikes are very well in this video because it's choppy anyway just because it's a youtube video. so you probably don't know what you're looking for. at 2:59 on this video where it's like BBBBYYYYRRRR and it skips past like 3 of the yellows, that's not the video, that's one of the lag spikes.

[ThunderPower]

How does it not make sense? The 360 version of GH3 seems more dominant among those in ScoreHero and on YouTube.

[f4phantom2500]

i mean it doesn't seem relevant; it doesn't make sense why you would post that statistic in this situation. what does it have to do with lag spikes?

[LordRM]

I think he's saying that's why there are more FCs on the 360 version than on the PS2 version.

[f4phantom2500]

oh, i see.

actually i don't think that really makes a difference. it's a relatively easy song, i got it in about 30~45 minutes because i can ignore the lag spikes. there are a lot of good players on ps2, many of whom are skilled enough to get it but don't have it. most of them will tell you that the PS2 version is harder because of the lag spikes.

[ThunderPower]

Ignoring the lag spikes is relatively easy, as we could probably both agree, because it's a consistent strumming pattern that never changes.

[f4phantom2500]

yes, ignoring them is easy. but it's less easy on the ps2 version. if you still don't believe me, go play it on the ps2 version without hyperspeed.

[ThunderPower]

Trust me, I do believe that the PS2 version has lag spikes - but it's just that alot of the other consoles also have lag spikes in KoC as well. I could just imagine if someone used Star Power on the PS2 in, say, Verse 2 of DWDTG!

[KillKebab]

hax

[thiagodemonio]

its hard on ps2

i have -1 505930

so, good job f4phantom you are EXPERT :D

[RishiBhaskara]

wow, nice job Robby!

so how do you get around the lag spikes? do you speed up, or slow down or what? :S

[someguy913]

you make sure that your speed doesn't change at all. pay attention to your downstrums and use the sound of the strum bar as a metronome, and make sure you keep it as perfect triplets. also just remember that each fret change is on a downstrum.

[RishiBhaskara]

yeah, but wont the lag spikes cause you to strum differently when they happen? if you kept strumming at the same speed, you'd have to hope that you hit the note after the lag late and that it registers...

[f4phantom2500]

from what i gather, the lag spikes don't tamper with the game's controller timing recognition (yes i pulled that out of my ass lol). it's only a visual defect. that is to say, the game doesn't "know" about the lag spikes, and only pays attention to your fretting/strumming/timing regardless of the lag spikes. so basically you gotta ignore the spikes and just play it like it's supposed to be anyway.

and yes, i accidentally used someguy's account lol.

[RishiBhaskara]

really? i always tried to compensate for the lag or something :/

i might give that a whirl then :)