I personally think this made the caller look worst than planned parenthood. Despite the "Racism" attached to the money, the racist is the DONER. I would have accepted it too. So what if the doner is racist? It still HELPS a woman in a one of the hardest moments of her life.
I understand why the worker said she'd accept the money, though doubt the money would be earmarked. An accidental pregnancy can very badly impact the lives of more than just the mother because one more child can be the difference between rising out of dire poverty or not, of escaping an abusive man, or not. I think medicaid should pay for 1 trimester abortions if the applicants are given of all options. More, easily available, cheap or free b.c. is best. Condoms + other b.c. = no oops!
I totally understand how too many children can affect your income level, but to take a life because a person could not make good life choices is just way too much. Especially when their are other choices out there.
Rand:The person who started Planned Parenthood has a eugenic background. hahaha, so what? We do that TODAY!! Whats wrong with a system thats aimed at bringing biological improvement of the human race? Because of those advances, parenst dont have to have malformend, and/or mentally challenged children, and they abort them everday. Why do you think genetics are studied? They are trying to prevent that. You prefer a land of broken people?
In all my years of university I've never met someone who claims to be superior in intelligence than others, and need to insult and call names in order to be right!And i had very good conversations with people from every backround but this person here has no intelligence nor skills to have a grown up discussion so I encourage the rest of us to ignore his insults!
hahahah, this person HERE?? Did tthey teach you english in your years OF UNIVERSITY"???
mari:but this person here has no intelligence nor skills to have a grown up discussion so I encourage hahah... not ONE single comma. Ya, your a university person all right!! hahahah
4:why not go directly to some one who survived a saline abortion? Gianna Jesson rediclous! She is NOTHING in the abortion issue! NOTHING! She canNOT even comprehend her own potential non-exsistance.Its like saying you may have died in a car wreck yesterday! Big frickin deal.
4st:You owe it to yourself to be educated. :) hahahah YOU think jesson is a icon for anti abortion.You owe it to YOURself to be educated.
Sue: rediclous! She is NOTHING in the abortion issue! NOTHING! She canNOT even comprehend her own potential non-exsistance.Its like saying you may have died in a car wreck yesterday! Big frickin deal.
Actually, it's more like saying that you survived a murder attempt.
besk:it's more like saying that you survived a murder attempt Then why wern't her mother and the doctor arrested? Opps, sorry berk..its not attempted murder. But your free to pretend it is. I have the Disney World Magic Kingdom game you can borrow,too!
"like" is the operative word here. An attempt on her life is a better analogy because there was intent behind it, as opposed to a car wreck, which is usually the product of human error.
He admited lying to americans TO PROMOTE in the begining and later he admited it was wrong,he wasn't the only doctor to stop this practice, Gianna Jesson WASN"T the survivor of a car accident but of ABORTION so yes it is a big deal,that means something,wheter you like it or not.
marino:Gianna Jesson WASN"T the survivor of a car accident but of ABORTION UNTIL you are intelligent to grasp the gist of me saying, that a person can't comprehend their own non-exisitance....NO MATTER WHAT MAY HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIFE... don't reply to me.
first of all is marinacalo not marino,and second of all don't worry I won't be replying to you just because I'm extremely intelligent and I will not waist my time with rude people like you,and a last thing,to judge someone and say they can not comprehend their own existance is very arrogant! that is not her message at all,but with arrogance like yours is difficult to argue! and because I'm intelligent I wont be waisting my time with you!
marino:don't worry I won't be replying to you just because I'm extremely intelligent and I will not waist my time
lol, You won't reply because I will chew you up and spit you out & you know it! Go ahead ..run away.
marino:to judge someone and say they can not comprehend their own existance is very arrogant hahahah.. You think that is MY idea???????? hahah, its scientifically proven idiot..i see now WHY you need to run away..you'd better do it FAST!! Chichen chit!
Good try at what? Knowing what it means and how to spell it?
I belive the word you're looking for is "success". Now, your poor spelling, grammar, using word out of context and splatterings of cuntpaste are tiresome and weak.You've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt your gross lack of intelligence and giant void in your life.
Yes because i sit down and wait for your response,you are so important!! or rather slow to process info maybe?..
Your "argumentum ad hominem" discredit towards me is a fallacy,rather speak of yourself! I'm done with your trailer trash arguments,and the fact that you only speak one language is to prove my point,you probably never traveled the world that shows the lack of culture and respect you have towards others during a debate, you don't debate you fight.
mari:Your "argumentum ad hominem" discredit towards me is a fallacy hahaha, I see you had to look that up, because you wouldn't have used the word "argumentum" if you haden't.
mari:,you probably never traveled the world that shows the lack of culture and respect you have towards others during a debate, you don't debate you fight. hahahah So, my accusation of your using ad hominems is a falacy? That entire message was ad hominems. You little liar
JAJAJAJAJAAAA!!! There it is you just shoot yourself in the foot! you don't even know how t use the word, probably don't even know what it means! and the fact that you don't understand what I'm saying is because you don't have ideas and a philosofy of your own you are just a lazy mind that copies the ideas of others, if you had intelligence you would use your reason to understand ,jaja,you little pathetic american!
mari:don't even know how t use the word, you don't have ideas and a philosofy.
You dont even know how to spell the word. It's .. philosophy
mari:you little pathetic american! The ideas of all us " little pathetic Americans" is what made abortion legal.
mari:just a lazy mind My lazy mind will chew you up & spit you out. Its the reason you were too chicken shit to respond to my comment. Instead you drop ad homiems! Dont take the fact, that you can't debate me, out on me!
tie:You really need to get a life I have one and I learned this in the life I have...
A big part of what makes us human beings is our ability to participate in society, or at least be recognized as a member of society. Fetuses are excluded both by necessity and custom. There can be no meaningful social participation for someone cocooned inside another's body. Fetuses do not even have a social identity until after birth YOU LOSE!!
most important than participating in society, is also what legacy we leave to the future generations,and the ability of participating in society is, not only limited to the amount of phisical space you body or mind uses. There are human beings who are more parasites of society than an unborn child.And last but not least we were all cocooned into our mother's body at some point,that is how we come to existace! that,is just common sense,something you don't seem to have developed.
mari:most important than participating in society, is also what legacy we leave to the future generations,and the ability of participating in society is, not only limited to the amount of phisical space you body or mind uses I have no idea what thats supposed to mean.
mari:.And last but not least we were all cocooned into our mother's body at some point So what? Whats that got to do with not having the ability to have rights when cocooned inside someone?
sueezee "My lazy mind will chew you up & spit you out."
NO you wont, you will end up crying and defeted before that happens and I have answered to every argument,you little liar!
And the only one throwing ad homimes here is you! from the begining,you little pathetic mimic mentality is what makes you mediocre and THAT! is why you can't argue with me, you will loose!
abortions? Dr. Bernard Nathanson Ya, the man who publically admitted he lied about the number of abortions he did!
st:survived a saline abortion? Gianna Jesson Shes making BIG money on that and she dosen't even care about it. Humans being cant comprehand their own non exsistant!
4st:she even sang before congress in Colorado
hahahahhahah wow!
4st:both of these people are real Ones a real LIAR the oter a real money grabber.
4st:why not go directly / Dr. Bernard Nathanson Who lied on the witness stand about how many abortion he performed!!!
why not go directly Gianna Jesson Who is making a killing just because she didnt die before birth???? Neither did I ............neither did YOU! I have NEVER seen so many people in one place who had not one ounce of critical thinking skills...its a phemomenon!!
You are the one that is very ignorant,first of all,you have no manners to have a discussion,since it seems the only way to prove a point is by way of insulting others and intimidating,no one will take oyu seriously like that,first of all before insulting me and callng me idiot have some RESPECT! SECOND you american IGNORANT! Here we laugh about how ignorant and poorly aducated you guys are,you think you are going to teach me about science???
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mari:Your response took 2 months I had no idea you were sitting there waiting for me, or that was a time limit for comments on YT!
mari:english is not my first language but I do speak several,how many do you speak? Nope, but I will chew you up & spit you out when it comes to abortion issues.
mari: Second you are like a dog bark more prolife ad homiems that you turn to when you have nothing valid to add. Come on...debate abortion
and you think yo have thinking skill? tell me where is it proven? scientifically proven your non existance theory?? JAJAJAJAJAJA you CAN NOT prove philosofy you can only have a theory,every human is psicollogically different from others even TODAY science CAN NOT PROVE the whole picture of human behavior,what an arrogant looser!
oh and you slimy,the human mind can not comprehend its own non existance ,as it can not comprehend the idea of eternity either,and this is becuase is limited to what it sees and experiences,that doesn't mean that either or both are proven facts,just because the mind doesn't get it it soen't mean that whatever is thinking is a proven fact,since we are more than just the mind.,the only ignorant person here seems to be YOU
SHE is here talking about it becuase she SURVIVED like you are here talking against her because you were born too!SOOOO,you american super intelligent this goes beyond your non existance theory but we are here debating becuase we CAN and we weren't aborted,if we were then we wouldn't be here at all and WHO CARES! I can deal with the fact of my non existance and I have no problems with that,but still her message has nothing to do with that.
FYI...Go to bjwinslow dot/com (thats just ONE) click on "fetuses" on top to see all the rubber fetuses available, that are used on YT prolife videos & different websites. They can be dressed up in blood, black coloring to represent "burning", and all sorts of wonderful little visual "tricks". People, please think before believing ANY picture you see. You owe it to yourself to be educated.
It was 25 years ago that a friend of ours terminated her pregnancy because she thought she was to young. She was 17 at the time. To this day her choice follows her and it is something she regrets every day. The choice of an abortion is not just a physical action a doctor carries out. If you're a teen and can carry to term think about adoption. Because, no matter how you justify it you are still preventing a baby from having a future.
abortion is violence against the innocent human being
abortion is deadly
abortion is the ultimate child abuse
abortion is the sacrament of the unholy
abortion never heals anyone
abortion only destroys
abortion is war against the gift of life
abortion always leaves one dead and one wounded...hhmmm...yeah...i guess it's safe to say it's not a good thing..what do you call something VOID of goodness....
contrar contrar you painted yourself into the corner-you can declare otherwise but you cannot make it true- you can only deceive and pervert the truth-the bright side? while standin in your corner you can ponder "inalienable"
stM:you scared of the smiles of little innocent ones?
LOLOLOL, You cannot make me, or any other knowledgable person, feel guilty with itty-bitty sweet sentiments used by people with no logic. I think with my head not my heart in matters of such importance. You, on the other hand, are free to use whimpy words, & ideas that serve NO logical purpose in any part of the hardships of life!
4stmich:while standin in your corner you can ponder "inalienable" Those are given AFTER birth!
getting a little testy are we? LOL found the cut and paste in South Dakota however, just for grins, i will add an important little tid bit women will receive this INFORMATION IN WRITING NOW "owner of an unborn woman"??? LOL LOL LOL LOL sorry i must thank you for your paint job for all those who were in doubt--READ WELL: sueeze declares that a born woman in the OWNER of the unborn woman the fact remains:the unborn woman still holds that RIGHT TO LIFE
4stmich:sueeze declares that a born woman in the OWNER of the unborn woman The future, unborn woman IN ME ....is MINE! I own it! Keep your nose out of MY uterus.
4stmich:now they will recieve in writing information on rights as well as
description of all known medical risks of the procedure including depression and related psychological stress and increased risk of suicide Where in the hell did you find this untrue, cut & pasted crap?
the gov didn't take away the right to life for any stage of human development
the gov CAN'T-it's inalienable
the unborn woman still holds that RIGHT TO LIFE
it is being VIOLATED
fatally violated
i will speak up for each and every unborn man and woman
motive? let's talk motives:pro-abort:
human blood sacrificed for convenience-another is for purposes of the unholy sacrament-30 years ago the dark side did their worship to the dark one and fasting to bring abortion onto our land
4stmich:the unborn woman still holds that RIGHT TO LIFE Too bad. Mom knows better & is the owner of the of the unborn woman. When you get an unborn woman of your own, you can do with it, what YOU want to do.
my remark was based on the sanger lie about freedom for women-
you, quint, are the one who used subservient-
i prefer equality-respected-treated with dignity of womanhood by both men and women- the sanger "freedom lie" has made women slaves to men's passions-they are used and discarded- they are not treasured for their personhood-
their personhood has been disrespected - even they do not respect themselves when they put their own child to death-women do not get together to have happy parties after aborting a child-it is miserable-their lives go to drug or alcohol or sex addictions and they don't know why-they hurt all the time inside and they don't know why-
there is not ONE SINGLE PERSON on the face of this earth who has not felt the sting of women being used and thrown away-babies being thrown into the trash-
sick and elderly being starved to death or put down like animals
your argument was based on advancement of women in the modern era
and your statement was based on nothing more than what they do
4stmich:for it-but don't expect to change the minds of us who know the truth about sanger
Sanger's work with minorities earned the respect of civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King, Jr. The Amsterdam News (the powerful local newspaper), the Abyssinian Baptist Church, the Urban League, and the black community's elder statesman, W.E.B. DuBois.
i will just have to pass on your bad advise i will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some day their rights will once again be protected
4stmich:I will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some day their rights will once again be protected They don't have rights, nor will they ever have rights. Rights CAN'T be given to a non exsistance entity, and who are you to speak for anyone else?
4stmich:who am i to speak for anyone else? Yes, who are you to "speak" for fetuses, and who are you to tell women they WILL have babies. Is this about control for you?
4stmich:who are you to put another unique and unrepeatable individual to death? The woman....the owner!
4st:who are you to force your opinions onto the most innocent of persons?
I DON'T. I promote the womans CHOICE.
will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some
4stmich:ia am one person who will speak out for another person who cannot speak out for themselves Bologna! You are speaking out for YOURSELF! For what YOU want.Its all about YOU a & YOUR desires to make people do what YOU think they should do. And, I can prove this by saying that you don't KNOW what a fetus could want, so how can you speak for them?
It should be noted also, that if anti-abortion folks spent as much time doing the things that would actually lower the numbers of abortions, as they do trying to make it illegal we could, together, really make a difference.
I am guessing though you would also have a problem with free condoms, comprehensive sex education, and job training for the poor.
men don't want to look at or tend new life because what they gave was not self giving love (i lay down my life for you) as sexual union was meant to be-
today it is self gratification and nothing more-abortion makes it easy for them- but wrecks the woman and destroys life
even if both the man and the woman do it just for that-it's no reason to annihilate another human being
humans killing humans for convenience is not acceptable
Do you honestly think if abortion was illeagal, it would change peoples sex habits?
Wouldn't it wreck a 17 year olds life to have a baby she is not equipped to care for?
If embryos and fetus' are human beings, why don't we have funerals for miscarriages or count them in census'? This is the very core of this argument when do sperm and egg become a person? For you it is at fertilization, for me it is several months later.
It wasn't until 1920 that women earned the right to vote! Before then they wre viewed legally as less than men. Great advances in sexual harassment law allow women to go to work WITHOUT being treated as mere sexual objects. Women run fortune 500 companies, have gone into space, own property, make there own choices about whom to marry and whom to fuck.
Gone are the days when women are considered the property of men.
You are a little hard to respond to because you shift topics quickly and write somewhat incoherently.
I think it is safe to say that women today have more rights than ever. I think it is also safe to say your contention that women would be happier if they were dependent on men is absurd and you could not back that up with any thing but the ramblings of your own mind. To think that a subservient woman is loved for who she is and not for how well she serve is incorrect. These arguments are wrong.
feel that their job has been taken away and women are just greedy and jealous for the position--your other argument was that now women vote-that doesn't earn them respect-being honorable earns them respect--when they snuff out their own kid they don't even respect themselves-your other argument was property ownership-this doesn't mean that they are being cherished for their own sake-- it just means that they own something-
I use the actions of people to convey an unquantifiable thing like self-respect. What criteria do you use? My comments are really about women having choices so THEY can decide what fulfills them. I am pretty sure no one needs you or me to tell them what fulfills them.
The respect others have for an individual is mostly irrelevant. A white racist does not respect his black co-worker but you would not use this as evidence that the black should not work, why would it apply to sexism?
I have asked a number of questions that you refuse to answer, I assume because you can't even get an answer to fit into your twisted logic. You are confusing your arguments and you are all over the place. In terms of abortion, the issue is 'when does a sperm and egg become a human being?' you have a strong belief, founded in superstition. I have a moderate belief founded in science. The first amendment means your superstition cannot be forced on others.
money can give pleasure and distractions but not happiness- no woman who destroys her child can feel happy about it- this world is a happier place because of abortion? NOT-
it enslaves the vulnerable women who don't run compaines and enslaves the women who don't own property-they ARE mere sexual objects being used and discarded-
Do you know someone that thinks that lots of abortions is a good thing? To the contrary high abortion rates indicate other problems. You are also right I think in that having an abortion isn't a pleasant experience. We may not agree whether abortion should be legal, but we do agree that the fewer the better!
Do you honestly think if abortion was illegal, it would change peoples sex habits?
4stmich:no woman who destroys her child can feel happy about it That shows your lack of knowledge concerning women who abort. How can you come in here and comment, without that information?
4stmichael:Hitler and Sanger sharing "ethnic cleansing" is a fact
hey Mick, look up the scientists, who are TODAY, pushing for a eugenics movement. Its nothing new and will live on. Get used to people thinking differently than you do.
using slaves and pushing for slavery to remain legal-it's nothing new and will live on-get used to people thinking differently than you......hhmmm..... sueezee.....hhhmmmm....
4stmich:only thing you can do is pervert the beauty of creation It would serve you well if you could understand that NOT all "creations" are a thing of beauty. You need to stop outside of your box and see whats really going on around you. Living in an imaginary gets you nowhere.
Why are you in here discussing this if you don't know the answer to it? And, how could Planned Parenthood determine fetal rights..which is a legal issue? That was NOTHING but an angry, immature reply!
Answer: the Supreme Court says the unborn have NEVER been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense, and ONLY living persons can be given rights.
What exactly does this show? Do you think they should refuse the money because you act like an asshole?
It is also very telling that Autumn says 'I've never had this sort of request before' you would think a blatantly racist organization would hear that a lot. But, the KKK votes republican.
I can't believe that more black leaders haven't jumped on that. (Margaret Sanger's history). I'm glad that one of my history classes covered her, or I would have absolutely no idea about it. It was truly disheartening to hear Barack Obama cite MS in his speech to Planned Parenthood and also to see PP giving out awards in her name-although, most conservatives probably don't know much about her either and might get an initially favorable opinion of her based on her opposition to abortion.
Sanger opened a family planning clinic in Harlem that sought to enlist support for contraceptive use and to bring the benefits of family planning to women who were DENIED access to their city's health and social services. Staffed by a black physician and black social worker, the clinic was endorsed by The Amsterdam News (the powerful local newspaper), the Abyssinian Baptist Church, the Urban League, and the black community's elder statesman, W.E.B. DuBois.
Time for you to do your own research. That quote is deceptively and maliciously out of context. Actually reading her writing here and you will find out she was saying 'we don't want to be misunderstood'
In terms of the quote you used, it means the opposite of what you are saying it does. Simple research would clear this up unless you prefer to continue to misquote.
I am no Margaret Sanger expert, I do know she was an advocate for eugenics so if you want to discuss that I am against it and I believe science shows that race is a social construct, not a scientific one.
If you wish to discuss womens rights, I would take the position that women today have more freedom than at any point in history.
Great video! It really exposes PP for the evil organization they are. How many people even realize that Planned Parenthood grew out of the mind of a racist woman, Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project"?
celtic soul:How many people even realize that Planned Parenthood grew out of the mind of a racist woman, Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project"? It "grew' from the mind of a women who knew the tragic toll of such ignorance. Her mother had 18 pregnancies, bore 11 children, and died in 1899 at the age of 40. She wanted to, and did end that idiocy!
WHO CARES WHAT SUEEZEE HAS TO SAY. JUST IGONORE HER. THE MORE SHE PISSES YOU OFF, THE HAPPIER SHE WILL BE.
"DON'T MAKE HER ANY HAPPIER THAN SHE ALREADY IS!"
mjt19741 1 year ago
I personally think this made the caller look worst than planned parenthood. Despite the "Racism" attached to the money, the racist is the DONER. I would have accepted it too. So what if the doner is racist? It still HELPS a woman in a one of the hardest moments of her life.
serrya69 1 year ago
I understand why the worker said she'd accept the money, though doubt the money would be earmarked. An accidental pregnancy can very badly impact the lives of more than just the mother because one more child can be the difference between rising out of dire poverty or not, of escaping an abusive man, or not. I think medicaid should pay for 1 trimester abortions if the applicants are given of all options. More, easily available, cheap or free b.c. is best. Condoms + other b.c. = no oops!
Everybodysright 2 years ago 2
I totally understand how too many children can affect your income level, but to take a life because a person could not make good life choices is just way too much. Especially when their are other choices out there.
housepate1 2 years ago
The person who started Planned Parenthood has a eugenic background.
RandomPoorGuy 3 years ago
Rand:The person who started Planned Parenthood has a eugenic background. hahaha, so what? We do that TODAY!! Whats wrong with a system thats aimed at bringing biological improvement of the human race? Because of those advances, parenst dont have to have malformend, and/or mentally challenged children, and they abort them everday. Why do you think genetics are studied? They are trying to prevent that. You prefer a land of broken people?
sueezee 2 years ago
In all my years of university I've never met someone who claims to be superior in intelligence than others, and need to insult and call names in order to be right!And i had very good conversations with people from every backround but this person here has no intelligence nor skills to have a grown up discussion so I encourage the rest of us to ignore his insults!
marinacalo 3 years ago
marin: but this person here
hahahah, this person HERE?? Did tthey teach you english in your years OF UNIVERSITY"???
mari:but this person here has no intelligence nor skills to have a grown up discussion so I encourage hahah... not ONE single comma. Ya, your a university person all right!! hahahah
sueezee 2 years ago
why not go directly to an eye witness?
why not go to someone who did over 20,000
abortions? Dr. Bernard Nathanson
why not go directly to some one who survived a saline abortion? Gianna Jesson
she even sang before congress in Colorado
find out about her life today
find out how even her coach's life has been influenced by her courage
both of these people are real.
both can be googled.
You owe it to yourself to be educated. :)
4stmichael 3 years ago
4st:Dr. Bernard Nathanson
he admitted lying through his eye teeth!
4:why not go directly to some one who survived a saline abortion? Gianna Jesson rediclous! She is NOTHING in the abortion issue! NOTHING! She canNOT even comprehend her own potential non-exsistance.Its like saying you may have died in a car wreck yesterday! Big frickin deal.
4st:You owe it to yourself to be educated. :) hahahah YOU think jesson is a icon for anti abortion.You owe it to YOURself to be educated.
sueezee 3 years ago
Sue: rediclous! She is NOTHING in the abortion issue! NOTHING! She canNOT even comprehend her own potential non-exsistance.Its like saying you may have died in a car wreck yesterday! Big frickin deal.
Actually, it's more like saying that you survived a murder attempt.
Beskargam 3 years ago
besk:it's more like saying that you survived a murder attempt Then why wern't her mother and the doctor arrested? Opps, sorry berk..its not attempted murder. But your free to pretend it is. I have the Disney World Magic Kingdom game you can borrow,too!
sueezee 3 years ago
"like" is the operative word here. An attempt on her life is a better analogy because there was intent behind it, as opposed to a car wreck, which is usually the product of human error.
Beskargam 3 years ago
He admited lying to americans TO PROMOTE in the begining and later he admited it was wrong,he wasn't the only doctor to stop this practice, Gianna Jesson WASN"T the survivor of a car accident but of ABORTION so yes it is a big deal,that means something,wheter you like it or not.
marinacalo 3 years ago
marino:Gianna Jesson WASN"T the survivor of a car accident but of ABORTION UNTIL you are intelligent to grasp the gist of me saying, that a person can't comprehend their own non-exisitance....NO MATTER WHAT MAY HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIFE... don't reply to me.
sueezee 3 years ago
first of all is marinacalo not marino,and second of all don't worry I won't be replying to you just because I'm extremely intelligent and I will not waist my time with rude people like you,and a last thing,to judge someone and say they can not comprehend their own existance is very arrogant! that is not her message at all,but with arrogance like yours is difficult to argue! and because I'm intelligent I wont be waisting my time with you!
marinacalo 3 years ago
marino:don't worry I won't be replying to you just because I'm extremely intelligent and I will not waist my time
lol, You won't reply because I will chew you up and spit you out & you know it! Go ahead ..run away.
marino:to judge someone and say they can not comprehend their own existance is very arrogant hahahah.. You think that is MY idea???????? hahah, its scientifically proven idiot..i see now WHY you need to run away..you'd better do it FAST!! Chichen chit!
sueezee 3 years ago
She'll get chewed up and spat out by an "extremely intelligent"i ndividual who can't spell simple words like "waste" "chicken" and "shit"?
I'd like to see that.
Tool.
TienesWhey 2 years ago
Tiens:She'll get chewed up and spat out by an "extremely intelligent"i ndividual who can't spell simple words like "waste" "chicken" and "shit"?
I'd like to see that
I see you spew ad homiems because of your inabiliy to fight back. Painted into a corner, huh? lol. Thats what I live for!
sueezee 2 years ago
Wow. You really need to get a life.
TienesWhey 2 years ago 6
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tie:Wow. You really need to get a life ad homiems show you dont have the ability to respond to my comment.
sueezee 2 years ago
^ This comment shows you don't know what an argumentum ad hominem is.
TienesWhey 2 years ago 6
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tie:This comment shows you don't know what an argumentum ad hominem hahahahahahah..good try tie!!
sueezee 2 years ago
Good try at what? Knowing what it means and how to spell it?
I belive the word you're looking for is "success". Now, your poor spelling, grammar, using word out of context and splatterings of cuntpaste are tiresome and weak.You've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt your gross lack of intelligence and giant void in your life.
You're done.
Salutations.
TienesWhey 2 years ago 6
tie: Knowing what it means and how to spell it hahahahhaa por tie!! No abiletty to fite tha aborshun battol . Thats why WE won!!
sueezee 2 years ago
By "we", you surley mean "us". I am pro-choice as well. Sorry about the misunderstaning.
TienesWhey 2 years ago
Yes because i sit down and wait for your response,you are so important!! or rather slow to process info maybe?..
Your "argumentum ad hominem" discredit towards me is a fallacy,rather speak of yourself! I'm done with your trailer trash arguments,and the fact that you only speak one language is to prove my point,you probably never traveled the world that shows the lack of culture and respect you have towards others during a debate, you don't debate you fight.
marinacalo 2 years ago
mari:Your "argumentum ad hominem" discredit towards me is a fallacy hahaha, I see you had to look that up, because you wouldn't have used the word "argumentum" if you haden't.
mari:,you probably never traveled the world that shows the lack of culture and respect you have towards others during a debate, you don't debate you fight. hahahah So, my accusation of your using ad hominems is a falacy? That entire message was ad hominems. You little liar
sueezee 2 years ago
JAJAJAJAJAAAA!!! There it is you just shoot yourself in the foot! you don't even know how t use the word, probably don't even know what it means! and the fact that you don't understand what I'm saying is because you don't have ideas and a philosofy of your own you are just a lazy mind that copies the ideas of others, if you had intelligence you would use your reason to understand ,jaja,you little pathetic american!
marinacalo 2 years ago
mari:don't even know how t use the word, you don't have ideas and a philosofy.
You dont even know how to spell the word. It's .. philosophy
mari:you little pathetic american! The ideas of all us " little pathetic Americans" is what made abortion legal.
mari:just a lazy mind My lazy mind will chew you up & spit you out. Its the reason you were too chicken shit to respond to my comment. Instead you drop ad homiems! Dont take the fact, that you can't debate me, out on me!
sueezee 2 years ago
tie:You really need to get a life I have one and I learned this in the life I have...
A big part of what makes us human beings is our ability to participate in society, or at least be recognized as a member of society. Fetuses are excluded both by necessity and custom. There can be no meaningful social participation for someone cocooned inside another's body. Fetuses do not even have a social identity until after birth YOU LOSE!!
sueezee 2 years ago
most important than participating in society, is also what legacy we leave to the future generations,and the ability of participating in society is, not only limited to the amount of phisical space you body or mind uses. There are human beings who are more parasites of society than an unborn child.And last but not least we were all cocooned into our mother's body at some point,that is how we come to existace! that,is just common sense,something you don't seem to have developed.
marinacalo 2 years ago
and I meant existance...
marinacalo 2 years ago
mari:most important than participating in society, is also what legacy we leave to the future generations,and the ability of participating in society is, not only limited to the amount of phisical space you body or mind uses I have no idea what thats supposed to mean.
mari:.And last but not least we were all cocooned into our mother's body at some point So what? Whats that got to do with not having the ability to have rights when cocooned inside someone?
sueezee 2 years ago
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marinacalo 2 years ago
sueezee "My lazy mind will chew you up & spit you out."
NO you wont, you will end up crying and defeted before that happens and I have answered to every argument,you little liar!
And the only one throwing ad homimes here is you! from the begining,you little pathetic mimic mentality is what makes you mediocre and THAT! is why you can't argue with me, you will loose!
marinacalo 2 years ago
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mari:most important than participating in society, is also what legacy we leave to the future generations We do that WITH legal abortion.
mari: There are human beings who are more parasites of society than an unborn child So what?
sueezee 2 years ago
4st:why not go to someone who did over 20,000
abortions? Dr. Bernard Nathanson Ya, the man who publically admitted he lied about the number of abortions he did!
st:survived a saline abortion? Gianna Jesson Shes making BIG money on that and she dosen't even care about it. Humans being cant comprehand their own non exsistant!
4st:she even sang before congress in Colorado
hahahahhahah wow!
4st:both of these people are real Ones a real LIAR the oter a real money grabber.
sueezee 3 years ago
4st:why not go directly / Dr. Bernard Nathanson Who lied on the witness stand about how many abortion he performed!!!
why not go directly Gianna Jesson Who is making a killing just because she didnt die before birth???? Neither did I ............neither did YOU! I have NEVER seen so many people in one place who had not one ounce of critical thinking skills...its a phemomenon!!
sueezee 3 years ago
You are the one that is very ignorant,first of all,you have no manners to have a discussion,since it seems the only way to prove a point is by way of insulting others and intimidating,no one will take oyu seriously like that,first of all before insulting me and callng me idiot have some RESPECT! SECOND you american IGNORANT! Here we laugh about how ignorant and poorly aducated you guys are,you think you are going to teach me about science???
marinacalo 3 years ago
mari:you think you are going to teach me about science??? Science has NOTHING to do with abortion rulings.
sueezee 2 years ago
Your response took 2 months! well, english is not my first language but I do speak several,how many do you speak?
Second you are like a dog bark! bark! just pure noise...
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mari:Your response took 2 months I had no idea you were sitting there waiting for me, or that was a time limit for comments on YT!
mari:english is not my first language but I do speak several,how many do you speak? Nope, but I will chew you up & spit you out when it comes to abortion issues.
mari: Second you are like a dog bark more prolife ad homiems that you turn to when you have nothing valid to add. Come on...debate abortion
sueezee 2 years ago
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marinacalo 3 years ago
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and you think yo have thinking skill? tell me where is it proven? scientifically proven your non existance theory?? JAJAJAJAJAJA you CAN NOT prove philosofy you can only have a theory,every human is psicollogically different from others even TODAY science CAN NOT PROVE the whole picture of human behavior,what an arrogant looser!
marinacalo 3 years ago
oh and you slimy,the human mind can not comprehend its own non existance ,as it can not comprehend the idea of eternity either,and this is becuase is limited to what it sees and experiences,that doesn't mean that either or both are proven facts,just because the mind doesn't get it it soen't mean that whatever is thinking is a proven fact,since we are more than just the mind.,the only ignorant person here seems to be YOU
marinacalo 3 years ago
SHE is here talking about it becuase she SURVIVED like you are here talking against her because you were born too!SOOOO,you american super intelligent this goes beyond your non existance theory but we are here debating becuase we CAN and we weren't aborted,if we were then we wouldn't be here at all and WHO CARES! I can deal with the fact of my non existance and I have no problems with that,but still her message has nothing to do with that.
marinacalo 3 years ago
google: vimeo
search for
Colorado for Equal Rights Personhood Amendment
4stmichael 3 years ago
FYI...Go to bjwinslow dot/com (thats just ONE) click on "fetuses" on top to see all the rubber fetuses available, that are used on YT prolife videos & different websites. They can be dressed up in blood, black coloring to represent "burning", and all sorts of wonderful little visual "tricks". People, please think before believing ANY picture you see. You owe it to yourself to be educated.
sueezee 3 years ago
search for: Colorado for Equal Rights Personhood Amendment
before we point another finger at the pro-aborts, repeat after me prolifers:
"What have I done personally to bring back the sacredmness of human life?"
"Have I done reparation for this Holocaust?"
"I repent of unborn,sick,and elderly being put to death on American soil."
4stmichael 3 years ago
ideological
i stand corrected on the spelling blooper
however the ideology of insensate forces stands as remarked
4stmichael 3 years ago
"idealogical"???
yeah ..this holocaust has been pretty horrific
over 50 million have paid with their lives for having pro-abort anti-life propaganda FORCED upon American soil without her consent
4stmichael 3 years ago
an ultra sound is "non-science-based"???
pro-aborts are getting desperate now
4stmichael 3 years ago
++Go South Dakota++
unborn is human being during entire embryonic and fetal ages
from fertilization to full gestation
living member of the species Homo sapiens
abortion will terminate whole separate unique living human being
lifts an injuction to keep women from being informed
i guess i'm just as twisted as the South Dakota ruling
how about you?? ...hhhmmm...
4stmichael 3 years ago
It was 25 years ago that a friend of ours terminated her pregnancy because she thought she was to young. She was 17 at the time. To this day her choice follows her and it is something she regrets every day. The choice of an abortion is not just a physical action a doctor carries out. If you're a teen and can carry to term think about adoption. Because, no matter how you justify it you are still preventing a baby from having a future.
makeinstall 3 years ago
scared of the facts? LOL again
you scared of the smiles of little innocent ones?
abortion is violence against the innocent human being
abortion is deadly
abortion is the ultimate child abuse
abortion is the sacrament of the unholy
abortion never heals anyone
abortion only destroys
abortion is war against the gift of life
abortion always leaves one dead and one wounded...hhmmm...yeah...i guess it's safe to say it's not a good thing..what do you call something VOID of goodness....
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:abortion is violence against the innocent human being
abortion is deadly
abortion is the ultimate child abuse
abortion is the sacrament of the unholy
abortion never heals anyone
abortion only destroys
abortion Your thoughts are IRRELEVANT!
4stmich:...i guess it's safe to say it's not a good thing.. Its a marvelous thing..it will always be a marvelous thing...it will always be
sueezee 3 years ago
the right to life is an inalienable right
it cannot be bought-sold-or given away
it remains intact even when sorely violated
the unborn woman still holds that right
all men are created equal
all are endowed with inalienable rights
life is one of those rights
contrar contrar you painted yourself into the corner-you can declare otherwise but you cannot make it true- you can only deceive and pervert the truth-the bright side? while standin in your corner you can ponder "inalienable"
4stmichael 3 years ago
stM:you scared of the smiles of little innocent ones?
LOLOLOL, You cannot make me, or any other knowledgable person, feel guilty with itty-bitty sweet sentiments used by people with no logic. I think with my head not my heart in matters of such importance. You, on the other hand, are free to use whimpy words, & ideas that serve NO logical purpose in any part of the hardships of life!
4stmich:while standin in your corner you can ponder "inalienable" Those are given AFTER birth!
sueezee 3 years ago
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:sueeze declares that a born woman in the OWNER of the unborn woman The future, unborn woman IN ME ....is MINE! I own it! Keep your nose out of MY uterus.
sueezee 3 years ago
++Go South Dakota++
unborn is human being during entire embryonic and fetal ages
from fertilization to full gestation
living member of the species Homo sapiens
abortion will terminate whole separate unique living human being
lifts an injuction to keep women from being informed
now they will recieve in writing information on rights as well as
description of all known medical risks of the procedure including depression and related psychological stress and increased risk of suicide
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:now they will recieve in writing information on rights as well as
description of all known medical risks of the procedure including depression and related psychological stress and increased risk of suicide Where in the hell did you find this untrue, cut & pasted crap?
sueezee 3 years ago
the gov didn't take away the right to life for any stage of human development
the gov CAN'T-it's inalienable
the unborn woman still holds that RIGHT TO LIFE
it is being VIOLATED
fatally violated
i will speak up for each and every unborn man and woman
motive? let's talk motives:pro-abort:
human blood sacrificed for convenience-another is for purposes of the unholy sacrament-30 years ago the dark side did their worship to the dark one and fasting to bring abortion onto our land
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:the unborn woman still holds that RIGHT TO LIFE Too bad. Mom knows better & is the owner of the of the unborn woman. When you get an unborn woman of your own, you can do with it, what YOU want to do.
sueezee 3 years ago
my remark was based on the sanger lie about freedom for women-
you, quint, are the one who used subservient-
i prefer equality-respected-treated with dignity of womanhood by both men and women- the sanger "freedom lie" has made women slaves to men's passions-they are used and discarded- they are not treasured for their personhood-
4stmichael 3 years ago
their personhood has been disrespected - even they do not respect themselves when they put their own child to death-women do not get together to have happy parties after aborting a child-it is miserable-their lives go to drug or alcohol or sex addictions and they don't know why-they hurt all the time inside and they don't know why-
4stmichael 3 years ago
4st:even they do not respect themselves when they put their own child to death
Yes,women respect themselves.Its wonderful knowing you dont have to bring a child into the world that we dont want A highly respectable action.
st:women do not get together to have happy parties after aborting a child
they DO get together and talk about it.
st:they don't know why-they hurt all the time
LOL,They don't hurt,YOU just think they do, like you think you know whats fetuses want!
sueezee 3 years ago
there is not ONE SINGLE PERSON on the face of this earth who has not felt the sting of women being used and thrown away-babies being thrown into the trash-
sick and elderly being starved to death or put down like animals
your argument was based on advancement of women in the modern era
and your statement was based on nothing more than what they do
4stmichael 3 years ago
ok let's talk ramblings
first you say that there is no rights for the human being in the fetus stage
because it is a nonexistent entity...hmmm...
if it non existent why do you need to annihilate it?
if it is non existent why do you need to kill it?
if it is non existent why do you need to get rid of it?
ramblings seem to be your game
4stmichael 3 years ago
4st:first you say that there is no rights for the human being in the fetus stage
because it is a nonexistent entity...hmmm...
if it non existent why do you need to annihilate it?
if it is non existent why do you need to kill it?
if it is non existent why do you need to get rid of it?
We were talking about "human beings"!! A fetus in NOT a human being so a human being is non-exsistant in utero! Think !
sueezee 3 years ago
obviously you are no margaret sanger expert as you stated - yet you tell me that the quote means the opposite?
she hung out with Hitler
when her Nazi connection hit the news she simply changed the name
from Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood "We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population"~MS
if you choose to believe the revisionist PP's history of sanger go for it-but don't expect to change the minds of us who know the truth about sanger
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:for it-but don't expect to change the minds of us who know the truth about sanger
Sanger's work with minorities earned the respect of civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King, Jr. The Amsterdam News (the powerful local newspaper), the Abyssinian Baptist Church, the Urban League, and the black community's elder statesman, W.E.B. DuBois.
sueezee 3 years ago
thinking differently is a matter of opinion
and that's OK that's OK that's OK
however this is matter of life and death
i will just have to pass on your bad advise i will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some day their rights will once again be protected
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:I will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some day their rights will once again be protected They don't have rights, nor will they ever have rights. Rights CAN'T be given to a non exsistance entity, and who are you to speak for anyone else?
sueezee 3 years ago
who am i to speak for anyone else?
rather
who are you to put another unique and unrepeatable individual to death?
who are you to force your opinions onto the most innocent of persons?
who are you to judge them a non entity?
ia am one person who will speak out for another person who cannot speak out for themselves
that's who i am
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:who am i to speak for anyone else? Yes, who are you to "speak" for fetuses, and who are you to tell women they WILL have babies. Is this about control for you?
4stmich:who are you to put another unique and unrepeatable individual to death? The woman....the owner!
4st:who are you to force your opinions onto the most innocent of persons?
I DON'T. I promote the womans CHOICE.
will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some
sueezee 3 years ago
4st:the phrases in my last message,"will speak for each unborn woman and each unborn man and hope that some " was not supposed to be there.
sueezee 3 years ago
4stmich:ia am one person who will speak out for another person who cannot speak out for themselves Bologna! You are speaking out for YOURSELF! For what YOU want.Its all about YOU a & YOUR desires to make people do what YOU think they should do. And, I can prove this by saying that you don't KNOW what a fetus could want, so how can you speak for them?
sueezee 3 years ago
that was a reply to sueeze
drivel "it grew from the mind..."
it grew from a malicious self centered
individual who had no qualms about eliminating
humans she judged as inferior
it grew from the mind of a sick individual
and in the 1930's people from all walks of life knew it was NOT OK
deep in our hearts we know today that it is still NOT OK
4stmichael 3 years ago
It should be noted also, that if anti-abortion folks spent as much time doing the things that would actually lower the numbers of abortions, as they do trying to make it illegal we could, together, really make a difference.
I am guessing though you would also have a problem with free condoms, comprehensive sex education, and job training for the poor.
quintessential37 3 years ago
stmich:it grew from a malicious self centered
individual who had no qualms about eliminating
humans she judged as inferior
LOL, how many did she eliminate? NONE! You lose again.
sueezee 3 years ago
men don't want to look at or tend new life because what they gave was not self giving love (i lay down my life for you) as sexual union was meant to be-
today it is self gratification and nothing more-abortion makes it easy for them- but wrecks the woman and destroys life
even if both the man and the woman do it just for that-it's no reason to annihilate another human being
humans killing humans for convenience is not acceptable
ever
4stmichael 3 years ago
Do you honestly think if abortion was illeagal, it would change peoples sex habits?
Wouldn't it wreck a 17 year olds life to have a baby she is not equipped to care for?
If embryos and fetus' are human beings, why don't we have funerals for miscarriages or count them in census'? This is the very core of this argument when do sperm and egg become a person? For you it is at fertilization, for me it is several months later.
quintessential37 3 years ago
put it into any context you want
it still stinks with the odor of eugenics
which IS IN FACT where she was going with it-
Hitler and Sanger sharing "ethnic cleansing" is a fact
another stink bomb:
the speeches in the 1930's
the "freedom" of women that turned them into slaves of men's passions to be used and discarded like dixie cups
gone are the days of being cherished just for who you are it's nothing but sex and death
go ahead prove me wrong
4stmichael 3 years ago
It wasn't until 1920 that women earned the right to vote! Before then they wre viewed legally as less than men. Great advances in sexual harassment law allow women to go to work WITHOUT being treated as mere sexual objects. Women run fortune 500 companies, have gone into space, own property, make there own choices about whom to marry and whom to fuck.
Gone are the days when women are considered the property of men.
quintessential37 3 years ago
as for your last remark
yeah you are right on- used like a disposable cup and thrown into the trash
whooop teee dooooo- some "freedom" to be treated worse than "property" as you so banefully lament
talk like trash
act like trash
and
treated like trash yeah you really got it made
gone are the days of being loved just for who you are
gone are the days of being cherished
4stmichael 3 years ago
You are a little hard to respond to because you shift topics quickly and write somewhat incoherently.
I think it is safe to say that women today have more rights than ever. I think it is also safe to say your contention that women would be happier if they were dependent on men is absurd and you could not back that up with any thing but the ramblings of your own mind. To think that a subservient woman is loved for who she is and not for how well she serve is incorrect. These arguments are wrong.
quintessential37 3 years ago
feel that their job has been taken away and women are just greedy and jealous for the position--your other argument was that now women vote-that doesn't earn them respect-being honorable earns them respect--when they snuff out their own kid they don't even respect themselves-your other argument was property ownership-this doesn't mean that they are being cherished for their own sake-- it just means that they own something-
you are talking about human doings
i am talking about human beings
4stmichael 3 years ago
I use the actions of people to convey an unquantifiable thing like self-respect. What criteria do you use? My comments are really about women having choices so THEY can decide what fulfills them. I am pretty sure no one needs you or me to tell them what fulfills them.
The respect others have for an individual is mostly irrelevant. A white racist does not respect his black co-worker but you would not use this as evidence that the black should not work, why would it apply to sexism?
quintessential37 3 years ago
your agrgument was based on advancement of women in the modern era
and your statement was based on nothing more than what they do
your argument is based on wealthy women who can spend their way to distraction
and pleasure- my comment was that even this will not fulfill them as women-
female corporate climbers are not respected by men or women-even if men or women don't say so in the work place-they say so on their off time-men...
4stmichael 3 years ago
I have asked a number of questions that you refuse to answer, I assume because you can't even get an answer to fit into your twisted logic. You are confusing your arguments and you are all over the place. In terms of abortion, the issue is 'when does a sperm and egg become a human being?' you have a strong belief, founded in superstition. I have a moderate belief founded in science. The first amendment means your superstition cannot be forced on others.
quintessential37 3 years ago
run companies-own property-
happy? cherished? respected?
money can give pleasure and distractions but not happiness- no woman who destroys her child can feel happy about it- this world is a happier place because of abortion? NOT-
it enslaves the vulnerable women who don't run compaines and enslaves the women who don't own property-they ARE mere sexual objects being used and discarded-
that freedom is not a freedom at all-
it leaves behind broken dreams and empty promises
4stmichael 3 years ago
Do you know someone that thinks that lots of abortions is a good thing? To the contrary high abortion rates indicate other problems. You are also right I think in that having an abortion isn't a pleasant experience. We may not agree whether abortion should be legal, but we do agree that the fewer the better!
Do you honestly think if abortion was illegal, it would change peoples sex habits?
quintessential37 3 years ago
4stmich:no woman who destroys her child can feel happy about it That shows your lack of knowledge concerning women who abort. How can you come in here and comment, without that information?
sueezee 3 years ago
4stmichael:Hitler and Sanger sharing "ethnic cleansing" is a fact
hey Mick, look up the scientists, who are TODAY, pushing for a eugenics movement. Its nothing new and will live on. Get used to people thinking differently than you do.
sueezee 3 years ago
circa 1850
hey mick look up the land owners who are TODAY
using slaves and pushing for slavery to remain legal-it's nothing new and will live on-get used to people thinking differently than you......hhmmm..... sueezee.....hhhmmmm....
sueezee....hey! let's try you now-
all men are created equal
they are endowed with INALIENABLE RIGHTS
one of those is the right to LIFE
......well...how did you do on this one?
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:they are endowed with INALIENABLE RIGHTS
one of those is the right to LIFE Wrong, fetuses have NO right,including the right to life.
sueezee 3 years ago
LOL
you have no authority-absolutely none
nada-ain't there-you have no authority-
you cannot take away an unborn woman's inalienable right to life any more than you can stop the sun from shining
only thing you can do is violate it
only thing you can do is pervert the beauty of creation
only thing you can do is destroy
too bad so sad
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:you have no authority-absolutely none
nada-ain't there-you have no authority-
you cannot take away an unborn woman's inalienable right to life
LOL, No, I can't, but the government DID! Have you forgtton abortion is legal?
4st:too bad so sad
I'm happy abortion is legal.maybe YOU are so sad....lol
sueezee 3 years ago
4stmich:only thing you can do is pervert the beauty of creation It would serve you well if you could understand that NOT all "creations" are a thing of beauty. You need to stop outside of your box and see whats really going on around you. Living in an imaginary gets you nowhere.
sueezee 3 years ago
yours in an imaginary world
all creation is beautiful
the ugly is what you have perverted
you cannot create so you pervert
that's why you write with so much anger
and yet accuse others of anger
yours is a world without joy
ours is the real thing
even when we suffer we find joy in little things-especially the smiles of little innocent human beings:)
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmich:yours in an imaginary world
all creation is beautiful
the ugly is what you have perverted
you cannot create so you pervert
that's why you write with so much anger
and yet accuse others of anger
yours is a world without joy
ours is the real thing
even when we suffer we find joy in little things-especially the smiles of little innocent human beings:)
LOl, I KNEW you'd end up writing ad hominem comments, because I have painted you into a cornor. You are scared of my facts.
sueezee 3 years ago
sueezee:"Wrong, fetuses have NO right,including the right to life"
oh my
what expertise you have my dear
can you cite your source?
let me guess
Banned Parenthood..eh??? LOL
4stmichael 3 years ago
4st:what expertise you have my dear
can you cite your source?
let me guessBanned Parenthood
Why are you in here discussing this if you don't know the answer to it? And, how could Planned Parenthood determine fetal rights..which is a legal issue? That was NOTHING but an angry, immature reply!
Answer: the Supreme Court says the unborn have NEVER been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense, and ONLY living persons can be given rights.
sueezee 3 years ago
What exactly does this show? Do you think they should refuse the money because you act like an asshole?
It is also very telling that Autumn says 'I've never had this sort of request before' you would think a blatantly racist organization would hear that a lot. But, the KKK votes republican.
quintessential37 3 years ago
I can't believe that more black leaders haven't jumped on that. (Margaret Sanger's history). I'm glad that one of my history classes covered her, or I would have absolutely no idea about it. It was truly disheartening to hear Barack Obama cite MS in his speech to Planned Parenthood and also to see PP giving out awards in her name-although, most conservatives probably don't know much about her either and might get an initially favorable opinion of her based on her opposition to abortion.
Progo35 3 years ago
progo:Margaret Sangers history
Sanger opened a family planning clinic in Harlem that sought to enlist support for contraceptive use and to bring the benefits of family planning to women who were DENIED access to their city's health and social services. Staffed by a black physician and black social worker, the clinic was endorsed by The Amsterdam News (the powerful local newspaper), the Abyssinian Baptist Church, the Urban League, and the black community's elder statesman, W.E.B. DuBois.
sueezee 3 years ago
she hung out with Hitler
when her Nazi connection hit the news she simply changed the name
from Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood
"We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."~MS
"denied access to city health and social services" is code word for her afore mentioned statement
research sueeze citations of promoters
find out the time frame and credibility
of the black support
4stmichael 3 years ago
Time for you to do your own research. That quote is deceptively and maliciously out of context. Actually reading her writing here and you will find out she was saying 'we don't want to be misunderstood'
quintessential37 3 years ago
put it into any context you want
it still stinks with the odor of eugenics
which IS IN FACT where she was going with it-
Hitler and Sanger sharing "ethnic cleansing" is a fact
another stink bomb:
the speeches in the 1930's
the "freedom" of women that turned them into slaves of men's passions to be used and discarded like dixie cups
gone are the days of being cherished just for who you are it's nothing but sex and death
go ahead prove me wrong
4stmichael 3 years ago
In terms of the quote you used, it means the opposite of what you are saying it does. Simple research would clear this up unless you prefer to continue to misquote.
I am no Margaret Sanger expert, I do know she was an advocate for eugenics so if you want to discuss that I am against it and I believe science shows that race is a social construct, not a scientific one.
If you wish to discuss womens rights, I would take the position that women today have more freedom than at any point in history.
quintessential37 3 years ago
baby forced to smoke pot,
watch?v=lxYTfLd1WxY
Liberals HATE babies ! ! !
rosieisahippo 3 years ago
Great video! It really exposes PP for the evil organization they are. How many people even realize that Planned Parenthood grew out of the mind of a racist woman, Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project"?
CelticSoulUSA 3 years ago
celtic soul:How many people even realize that Planned Parenthood grew out of the mind of a racist woman, Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project"? It "grew' from the mind of a women who knew the tragic toll of such ignorance. Her mother had 18 pregnancies, bore 11 children, and died in 1899 at the age of 40. She wanted to, and did end that idiocy!
sueezee 3 years ago
never mind the blood of over 32 million innocents on my hands
that's my story and i'm sticking to it
LOL
4stmichael 3 years ago
4stmichael:never mind the blood of over 32 million innocents on my hands Thats, over 50 million.
sueezee 3 years ago