False Prophet Kenneth Copeland speaks, "Jesus never actually claimed to be God, It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, anybody can do that.” God and Adam looked exactly alike.” Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell. You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, Adam was not subordinate to God. God and Adam looked exactly alike. Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God. God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God. Pray to yourself, because I'm in your self and you're in my self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord. God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself.
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, I Am, I just smile and say, Yes, I Am, too. Everybody you ask "Who's the biggest failure? They say Judas, somebody else will say No, I believe it was Adam, well how about the devil. He's the most consistent failure. But he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest one in all the Bible is God.
The Quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus, Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh. If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and act and sound exactly alike The image is that they look just alike, but the likeness is that they act alike and they are alike.
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, anybody can see that. You are not a spiritual schizophrenic, half-God and half-Satan, you are all-God God is someone, very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6'2," 6'3," that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, and has a hand span nine inches across.
False spirits invade the church, this is just terrible. The Bible says to be sober-minded and aware in the last days, this in exactly the opposite. And furthermore the Holy Spirit isn't something that you can throw at people like a ball of ki, this is more like Eastern religions than Christianity of the Bible.
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, "As you move into the month of January 1976, you shall see more of the outpouring of God's glory than, in the history of this world, limbs that have been amputated put back on by the power of God, instantly[bald] men's hair grow to a full head of hair, eyeballs replaced where there were no eyeballs, God will cause your automobile,[that gets] 10 miles to the gallon to get 70 miles, the same old car!
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, "You can have what you say! In fact, what you are saying is exactly what you are getting now. If you are living in poverty and lack and want, change what you are saying. It will change what you have. Discipline your vocabulary. Discipline everything you do, everything you say, and everything you think to agree with what God does, what God says, and what God thinks. God will be obligated to meet your needs because of His Word.
"Dad" Hagin has been a Dad to heretics in the Word Faith movement. Like Copeland. THey make me sick to my stomach. THe very arrogance of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. People need to know the TRUTH.
Entertain people and they will follow you. Showmanship ! Make them laugh. Tell funny stories. Use the power of suggestion. Use a little stage hypnosis. Do all of the above and you can start your own religion anytime, anywhere.
1 Corinthians 14:40 "But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner." This is demonic and has nothing to do with God and is contrary to scripture.
No many christians will enjoy the drunkeness of the Holy Spirit in this earth, but when they will see God I wonder how that will be ,, Oh my gosh, I just can't imagine the full power of God of that day..
guys before judge i suggest you read a bible about holy spirit and joy of god. here you can find one explanation what is really going on. for people who cannot judge by spirit this cannot to be understandable. such laughter hard make fake. some people tried make it, but their success was not good. how i know it comes to you when you not anticipate. by hypnotism it imposseble to make becose one man should control all people and make order what they shuold do.
This is shockingly insane. These 'pastors' need to be isolated from the society ASAP and closely watched by medical professionals. They are harming and damaging innocent people's minds using religion as their weapon. True Christianity has NOTHING to do with this circus.
i didn't even believe in this stuff, and i went to a crusade like this and it happened to me and everyone around me. you can call hypnotism, but you need someone to hypnotize you to be hynotized
I believe there's going to be heads hanging in shame when we're before God,when he asks us to prove we know what's in the heart & motives of a man that we felt we had the right to pronounce judgement.He said Watch & Beware,not openly condemn, for if you're right, then no harm done. But if you're wrong, what do you do then? I think heaven is going to be full of surprises.Many a judged man will hear "well done my son",+many of us "condemners & "discerners" may not be able to look God in the eye.
Dreya 43 in the mean time lets just let any false teacher come in the church at anytime they want - plant there heresy and we shld just not say anything because of the poss of them being right - no way - when Jesus threw out the mony-chngrs from templ many thougt he shld not do that and were up set with him - but still he thru them out '!! as he shld have- and christans shld not allow heresy in the church either!!!!
intheblessing part 2In his home town synagogue quoted Isaiah the spirit of the Lord is upon me he then sat down a sign that a Rabbi is about to teach saying today this has been fulfilled in you hearing THAT MEANS I AM TELLING YOU I AM MESSIAH
Also that day they offered great sacrifices, and rejoiced: for God had made them rejoice with great joy: the wives also and the children rejoiced: so that the joy of Jerusalem was heard even afar off.
notice how the people in the beginning that fall outta the chairs.. on their chairs it says reserved... so they gotta know him an he prolly tells them to do that. but the other people in the audience prolly laugh cuz of him...
i like how the girl at the end makes the weird noises... is that suppose to be God to her or something? cuz she seems crazy to me...
Mat 24:3-5 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ', and will deceive many.
SCARY!!!. This is the type of people(demon possesed) that bless the american army when they go to massacre people in Third World countries, thieves, lyers (right winners, fascist). I stick to my socialism, wich is more compatible with Jesus teaching than.
that's fine that you're bored. however, perhaps it is you who does not understand. you condemn me for not having "tested their words in light of scripture." Which i have done. Look, I have figured it out. And I am getting condemned for believing that Jesus spent time in hell so that i don't have to. He took the punishment of my sin.
And where does it say I condemn you? Nobody is condemning you for believing Jesus spent time in hell. You're just being told you're wrong. Show me where it says Jesus spent time in hell. Is that so much to ask?
And just because i'm a teenager does not indicate that i am an idiot who is unable to comprehend and make decisions for myself regarding my beliefs. I am a spirit made in the image of my Father God. I have His nature. I'm made in His likeness.I am an incarnation of a spirit. Yes. I have 3 parts.. body, soul(mind), and spirit.
If you are daft enough to be taken in by these people then you deserve everything you get. They are egomaniacs, desperate for celebrity, failed actors, too stupid to be politicians (that says somethin) to hopeless to be singers. They'll do anything except work.
I know the man and his family personally. First off, he lived clean. Seconely, You who are complaining about this guy need to reread scripture. Thirdly, unless you've ever really sat under him and seen people healed whom you personally knew to be sick, stop whining
I agree with you that this man lived clean. I know this as a fact because God could have revealed Hagin's sins to the church if this person didn't live clean, but God didn't do that to him, did he? I wouldn't complaining about the preachers. It's the power of God that heals people! Praise God!!
God bless you, gittardude1975!!!!!:)
P.S. I love the Campmeetings (that takes place during the summer) at RHEMA!!!!
HAGIN AND THE LIKE ARE FALSE TEACHERS! It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. Test his words in light of what Scripture says and you'll find him to be contradicting Scripture. Bad stuff. WoF theology is heretical. Research it and move on to biblical preachers like Charles Stanley, John Macathur, Ravi Zacharias.
I don't have his many contradictions memorized. Sorry. I'll give you some quotes of his that I do remember. And actually, it would do you well to research anything a man of God says and test it in light of what scripture says. Or is that a biblical prescript that you're not interested in? Over the years many Christian organizations who are interested in biblical clarity have researched his teachings, IN CONTEXT, and have found him to be a false teacher.
His book titled How to Write your own Ticket with God is one example of being unbiblical. The title itself is an unbiblical concept. His positive confession theology is nowhere to be found in the bible. "He [Jesus] tasted spiritual death for every man. And His spirit and inner men went to hell in my place. Can't you see that? Physical death wouldn't remove your sins." Sorry pal, but Christ didn't go to hell and suffer as WoF theology purports.
How dare you insult me by suggesting that i don't read my Bible. Do you see no faults in the theology you seem to deem correct?
and how do u know that he didn't go to hell?
what is the punishment for sin? death! Spiritual death, which is separation from God. and He became sin for us so that we wouldn't have to suffer eternity in Hell.
How dare you insult God by following a false teacher and claiming he isn't one. You may read your bible but you obviously don't test Hagin's words in light of Scripture's words. If you did, you'd realize the errors. How do I know Jesus didn't go to hell? Where does it say He did?
27Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:30-32 30...knowing...God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
This is one of my favorite quotes as it is very easy to remember and assail the WoFer with. "The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." -Ken Hagin
Really? Can you show me where it states that in the bible, sozotumbles? Didn't think so.
I've already given you some. Research your own belief system/denomination. I already have. As I said, I have tested their words in light of scripture (which we are instructed to do) and found WoF BAD/INCORRECT/DANGEROUS AND HERETICAL.
If you look up the definition for incarnation then you see as one of the results...A bodily manifestation of a supernatural being... are you denying that we are supernatural beings?
So you're saying we're bodily manifestations JUST like Christ? Check another definition of incarnation and you'll find "a living being embodying a deity or spirit". Are you a deity, sozotumbles?
radicalgrace said:BREAKING NEWS!!! Look at today's news top store. CBS News has learned Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is investigating six prominent televangelist ministries for possible financial misconduct. The six ministries identified as being under investigation are: Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn.
I left WOF churches sp you are assuming that some of us do not know what it is like in these churches. I left because they taught unbiblical doctrines...
No it is not. Because God gave HIS WORD it is called the Holy Bible and it is the only measure of authority in ourlivs. God's word says things are to be done decently and IN ORDER. God also said not to speak tongues without an interpreter. God said 2 or more witnesses sould judge prophecy. So why isn;t anyone in the WOF doing these things?
I have important scriptures and will send by e mail. There is serious concern with kenneth Hagin because he teached the cross is defeat and Paul teaches the cross is life. By being crucified with Him we live. Ga 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
37They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
So how does this verse fit w/ God wants you rich false gospel?
Hi,I heard kenneth copeland, say that joseph was not sold by his brothers to the midianites,but by some other people who took him out of the pit and they sold him, this is not the truth, he was sold by his brothers, for a pastor to preach this shows that he should study his bible more often as his teaching are heard in many countries
Hi, I should have keeped the video of his sermon , it was round about a month ago, if you go to his website maybe you will find, I love the bible story of joseph and I have read it many times that is how I know that he made copeland made a huge error.
robocindy, if you read Genesis 37:25-36, you will see where the Ishmeelites sold Joseph to the Midianites who sold him to Potiphar. Reuben went to get Joseph out of the pit, but he was too late. The Ishmeelites beat him to Joseph. You have to read it carefully.
It is my understanding that his son said that blacks and whites should not marry. And then Kenneth Hagin, Sr, would not denouce that statement. Is that true?
I'm not sure, I've never heard anything about that. Sounds sketchy though. A close friend of ours is black and his wife is white. They were part of the Rhema singers and band for awhile.
Well, I really liked Hagin until I heard that. & I have seen him & the singers in person, bought his books, etc.
I do know that when Dr.Price was preaching on Racism on TV, he did play the audio where this was stated 'But' he would not identify the person by name.
Since then, I looked at this crazy Rev Manning (hypocrite/had never heard of him b4) on Y.T. attacking Dr. Price. In reading the Postings, 1 person stated that it was the Hagins that had done that.
There's God and then there is you - a god. You, Copeland, Hinn and many many more. Or will you realize that God is the only God? Man is not a little god, in spite of what these abominable word-faith/prosperity people teach. It's not that hard to tell.
You want to know if man is a god. Sounds good to me. He must be since He is made in God's image. Or is that likeness? Don't remember. I would think since He is in us, and we are in Him, that would make us a little god. What does the Bible say? Hey! it's been a LONG time since I had chemistry and phys. science.
What do you mean? Doesn't the Bible say that we are in Him? In Christ, perhaps? I read the Bible all the time, just can't read for long periods of time. I do pay attention as much as I can. Had a fall and was hospitalized. Memory hasn't been the same, but I try.
No it doesn't say that we are in Him. What would that mean anyway? It's great that you're reading the Bible and trying to study it. That's the goal. Get into the Word and get the Word into you.
Yes it does. We are to abide IN HIM. See John 15...Eph 4 also says this
Col 2
6As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up IN HIM, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
What is taking so long for the Hagin/Copeland faithfulls to respond? Surely they have answers for these gross teachings of the Scriptures by their heroes of the faith. Surely. I am surely waiting. Surely I am impatiently waiting. No wonder heiress2millions is an heiress to 2 million dollars-she's a god, just like Copeland says.
It's Wednesday night, rorshakks. Some Christians go to church on Wednesday night. Plus, Kenneth Copeland is having 2007 Days of Refreshing on the Web. That's prob where they R.
Ya, I think rorshakks was trying to keep them from that. It's all psychosociological manipulation. Just like the video. We weren't truly waiting for a good answer because it probably doesn't exist. That's why it's been many hours. Please try to pay attention.
....waiting....(what are they thinking? Could the greatest men of God actually be dangerously wrong? Could their flock actually test their words with due diligence and find something very wrong?) Oh, ya, truth doesn't matter that much. This flock goes with feelings first.)
Copeland teaches that Adam was "created in the god class"; i.e., he was a reproduction of God: Copeland said this: "He was not subordinate to God but was walking as a god with the authority of a god. What he said went. What he did, counted. [And when he] bowed his knee to Satan and put Satan up above him, then there wasn't anything God could do about it, because a god had placed [Satan] there" ("The Force of Love," tape #02-0028).
Here are some more of Copeland's heresies: "You're all God. You don't have a God living in you; you are one! When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, 'I AM,' I say, 'Yah, I am too!'" ("The Force of Love," Tape BBC-56).
I thought I provided the quote. Here it is: "Don't be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you are God. They crucified Me for claiming I was God. I didn't claim that I was God; I just claimed that I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah! That's what you're doing ..." ("Take Time to Pray," Believer's Voice of Victory, 2/87, p. 9) This is Jesus supposedly telling this to Copeland.
help me out here please, I can only remember Matthew 27:11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
I can't remember any scripture where Jesus specifically claimed he was God
intheblessing Jesus used many forms of Jewish rabbinic teaching answering a question with a question, pictures using Scriptures and teachings the Jews would have known were about Messiah using the tetrammogram which was rarely used the name of God Moses was given the great I AM Jesus used this in the garden and all the soldiers fell down, when talking to Pilate he said you have said that I AM and you will see me coming in glory a direct reference to Messiah
Apparently not. Can you explain it? Can you explain why contradict yourself? You stated that you believe Jesus is God but when I show you that Copeland said Jesus told him He wasn't God, you have no problem with that. Do you see how you contradict yourself?
I'm sure you know many things that are correct but you don't get it that Hagin/Copeland are false teachers. I've provided proof of this and you have provided no (substantive) rebuttal. All you have to do is test what they have said in light of what scripture says, and then you'd see. It's not that complex.
I have respect for many people. You just don't know what you're talking about. You're just upset with me AND yourself because you don't even understand basic Christian doctrine and teachings that the martyrs spilled their blood for. Like I said, so much for knowing what you believe and why you believe it.
You had a teacher who taught you truth and you wanted no part in that. You just want prosperity and riches here on earth. You can't even address ONE of the unbiblical beliefs of your word-faith,name it and claim, blab it and grab it prosperity buddies. Quite pathetic. So much for knowing what you believe and why you believe it.
Nice ad hominem. No one here is claiming to be a know it all. You're just using that as a petty defense. What a typical charismatic you are-obsessed with prosperity. It doesn't matter if you don't know all the teachings of Hagin and Copeland. I provided you with examples of their biblically-contradicting statements and you couldn't care less.
No, you're wrong. Nobody here thinks they know it all. Nice try though. No one here denies the power either. You failed to address any of the teachings that show Hagin and Copeland to be false teachers.
to all of you who say that they're just acting. Well, what is faith? Faith is an act. Faith without works is dead. If you act out in the natural, God will come upon you with His Supernatural. I used to not think this was real till one day the HOly Ghost came on me the same way. I've been happy ever since.
I've seen enough and been in enough meetings that I know what is going on here. I'm not going to criticize God's people, not am I their judge. God is. The Spirit is moving, I feel it, don't you? However, there are a few people that I have a problem with, but that's in every meeting where the Spirit moves. Someone, other than oneself will do something that is questionable.
i could see if they were prasing god saying halelujah and glory to god but theese people are acting drunk and just yelling nothin, now im not gonna be the guy that says kenneth hagin and copeland are heretics or false prophets and are going to hell because im human just like they are they may have missed it along the way like i have and i dont have a heaven or hell to put hem in.
And why are they acting drunk? Because they think the apostles in Acts 2 were acting drunk. Clearly the apostles weren't acting drunk. Hagin and Copeland are false teachers because they deny essential/historical Christian doctrine.
I'm confused - you've said several times now that the apostles "clearly weren't acting drunk" but Acts 2:13-15 says "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. 14But Peter, ...lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
People wouldn't "suppose" they were drunk if they didn't act like it
3 Thessalonians 6:7 -- "NOW WE COMMAND YOU, BRETHREN, IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THAT YE WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM EVERY BROTHER THAT WALKETH DISORDERLY...(7) FOR YOURSELVES KNOW HOW YE OUGHT TO FOLLOW US: FOR WE BEHAVED NOT OURSELVES DISORDERLY AMONG YOU."
THE APOSTLES DID NOT BEHAVE DISORDERLY, SO WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM THOSE WHO DO. A DIRECT COMMAND!!!
JESUS IS COMING VERY, VERY SOON - BEWARE THESE FALSE TEACHERS!
intheblessing the Bible says they thought they were drunk BECAUSE EACH HEARD THEM TALKING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE- it tells you why -not because they were rolling around the square acting like animals
Thank you- this movement is now superceeded by the new heresies of the emergent chuch and the interelation between the social gospel of Warren with the New Age agenda which presses on into the White House by advising Obama via the USA Armt Think Tank !!
i belong to a word church and i think this is to much as a matter of fact kenneth hagin ministries is coming next month to my church. but i do believe in speaking in tounges and praise and worship but this is to much people falling out of there chair shouting hooping and hollering and cutting flips in church.
You need to equip yourself with biblically-based reasons that demonstrate why Hagin ministries are bogus. They teach a muddy mix of truth and non-truth.
im not the man to argue with you every pastor out there stretches the bible to what it means to them. i dont agree with every thing they (Copeland and hagin) do but who r u to judge ure not god you dont know what the true intentions of there hearts are they done good and bad who hasnt.
Kind of all over the map on that one, Hokie. Your statement about every pastor is wrong because you cannot know such. If you read the Bible you would know we are to judge, but not self-righteously or hypocritically. I'm not judging their eternal destiny, but their theology. It doesn't square w/Scripture so therefore I have a right to say so. You're completely missing the point.
Your arguement is tantamount to saying, well the Mormons think Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer, but who am I to judge if that's right biblically or not. Clearly, you know very little of what the Bible says.
rorshakks, one week ago, you said you were commanded to explain to others why this is so unbiblical. Now you say you're not trying to change them. You're right, I don't get it.
Yes, we're commanded and instructed to tell others of the truth. When I say I'm not trying to change them I mean I know I cannot change them, only the Holy Spirit can do that, but if I'm doing something unbiblical, I want others to let me know, just as I am letting them know. You know?
I would bet most Christians from centuries past to present, would call this chaos. And you'd be a fool to bet they didn't worship in the Spirit. I'm not saying God only likes my worship. I'm saying I would bet He doesn't like this type of outlandish "worshipping". But that's just my opinion.
I love how people say that we're not to judge others. They don't realize that's a judgemental statement in itself. We are to judge-but not hypocritically.
Well I know as much as any discerning Christian knows. You're completely missing the points that I and others are making. How do we know God doesn't like this type of worship? Because he's a God of order not chaos. This is chaos. These people are running and flopping around out of control. This is unbiblical.
Been a believer a long time, and most things dwindle away after awhile. If there is a spirit behind something, it usually doesn't. If I remember right, we are to leave the tares with the wheat and let Jesus deal with it. I don't think there should be arguing going on like this.
who are you talking to, rorshakks? the Holy Ghost is easily grieved and prefers to be welcome in a church service. It seems some of you just want to pick on heiress2. Why is that? That is who you're speaking to?
Well unlike you, I know how to read the Bible for all it's worth. If you have read it you would understand this type of worshipping is not in the Bible. This is not a good witness of the truth of Christ because these people are acting looney.
Don't sweat it dude. These signs and wonders people actually believe Jesus worshipped this way. Want to know how Jesus worshipped? Go to a Synagogue on Friday night.
Crapo? Wow, that's real Christian of you. "Try it you might just like it." No thanks, I'll take the objective word of God over subjective emotionalism and general misreading of Scripture.
As a Christian you should understand that since the video bothers because it is unbiblical to act this way; I am commanded to explain to others just why it is unbiblical.
No. No one here is a Kenneth hater. We hate his unbiblical teachings. He teaches a muddy mix of truth and non-truth. Find someone better to listen to.
heiress2millions: I doubt you have knowledge whether there were or were not unbelievers at this meeting. It's irrelevant anyway. The point is that this is a terrible witness. Rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollably is unbiblical.
They are not being criticized for being happy and having a good time in the Lord. They get criticized because their theology contradicts biblical Christianity.
heiress2millions: You're first two sentences don't make sense. Here's what I get from your first 2 sentences: Because you've heard so much about those Pentecostals, that should tell me something. What should it tell me?
There is nothing in the Bible about rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollably. There is nothing about "holy laughter" in the Bible. PROVE ME WRONG.
Great!The bible says the joy of the Lord is our strengt.And the kingdom of God is Truth ,Peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.What is wrong with that.YOu better enjoy life ,than to be a critic.
Estaah77: apparently, you tried to reply to an older comment. Which one or ones of the previous five replies were addressed to me and what is your point???
If you've ever experienced this blessing, you will never be the same. Why do you think the apostles were willing to suffer torture and death for their Lord. Don't worry, Holy Spirit is a gentleman, he won't force himself on any who don't want him.
This is a manifestation of laughter in the Holy Spirit. You people need to be very careful as you're walking on dangerous ground here. Jesus warned us NOT to blaspheme the Holy Spirit as there is no forgiveness for it.
Indeed, rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollable and claiming it's the Holy Spirit IS blasphemy. There's nothing in the Bible about this type of behavior. And there is nothing in the Bible about "a manifestation of laughter in the Holy Spirit".
Is the Holy Spirit more powerful than Jesus? Didn't Jesus say the HS would lead all men to Him? Where's the winning of souls in this picture? All that's missing from this is Booger's "Wonder joints" and alcohol. God have mercy on the signs and wonders crowd. The people of Ninevah didn't sin so a great a sin in the sight of God. The WORD warns us!
AS THAT PUSH & IN FRONT WERE THOSE WINDS ONCE HERE BUT QUICKLY GONE REMEMBERING TO COME BACK YESTERDAY<---& SATAN LAUGHING SPREADS THOSE WINGS; THE TOMORROW OF PRESENT PEOPLE SCREAMS REMAINING WITHIN THIS CONSTANT PAST {OF THE ESSENCE IS NO MORE} but maybe we all can chance a new language before the ELSE does, it just may- & IT IS JUST.
I wonder how much they made off of this one? Great plants in that audience. Just right in front and easily suggestible. Or, just great acting. This is so dumb. It is always at a podium and there is always a bunch of desperate silly women and henpecked men to just let themselves out of the noose for some conjob.
I'd be careful of calling God's manifestation wicked. What if you're wrong? We are held accountable for what we speak. And I, for one, know that this is real and from God only.
This clearly isn't God's manifestation. You need to be careful to be be so duped into believing whatever you see Christians doing. Rolling around and laughing uncontrollable is unbiblical. PROVE ME WRONG.
False Prophet Kenneth Copeland speaks, "Jesus never actually claimed to be God, It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, anybody can do that.” God and Adam looked exactly alike.” Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell. You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.
Rylucero 11 months ago
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, Adam was not subordinate to God. God and Adam looked exactly alike. Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God. God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God. Pray to yourself, because I'm in your self and you're in my self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord. God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself.
Rylucero 11 months ago
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, I Am, I just smile and say, Yes, I Am, too. Everybody you ask "Who's the biggest failure? They say Judas, somebody else will say No, I believe it was Adam, well how about the devil. He's the most consistent failure. But he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest one in all the Bible is God.
Rylucero 11 months ago
The Quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus, Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh. If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and act and sound exactly alike The image is that they look just alike, but the likeness is that they act alike and they are alike.
Rylucero 11 months ago
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, anybody can see that. You are not a spiritual schizophrenic, half-God and half-Satan, you are all-God God is someone, very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6'2," 6'3," that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, and has a hand span nine inches across.
Rylucero 11 months ago
False spirits invade the church, this is just terrible. The Bible says to be sober-minded and aware in the last days, this in exactly the opposite. And furthermore the Holy Spirit isn't something that you can throw at people like a ball of ki, this is more like Eastern religions than Christianity of the Bible.
sedon99 1 year ago
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, "As you move into the month of January 1976, you shall see more of the outpouring of God's glory than, in the history of this world, limbs that have been amputated put back on by the power of God, instantly[bald] men's hair grow to a full head of hair, eyeballs replaced where there were no eyeballs, God will cause your automobile,[that gets] 10 miles to the gallon to get 70 miles, the same old car!
Rylucero 1 year ago
The quotable False Prophet Kenneth Copeland, "You can have what you say! In fact, what you are saying is exactly what you are getting now. If you are living in poverty and lack and want, change what you are saying. It will change what you have. Discipline your vocabulary. Discipline everything you do, everything you say, and everything you think to agree with what God does, what God says, and what God thinks. God will be obligated to meet your needs because of His Word.
Rylucero 1 year ago
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dovestream 1 year ago
@dovestream What are you saying???? you are not careful at all in saying that because it
obviously appears like something fake.
at 3:31 there is an abomination men lying on each other.
These are people conducted by demons to deceive true christians(but they just can't)
i believe in the speaking of tongues, but i also believe that the spirit's manifestation will never create confusion among believers.
But i can assure you that feaful believers will be traumatised to watch this; be careful!
AbelBlog 1 year ago
@AbelBlog hello yeah i have had a change in heart towards things like this.
I agree with you. :)
dovestream 1 year ago
religion is a hallucinogen that causes brain damage.
disteremsh 1 year ago
Душевный человек не может понять того, что происходит. Излияние Святого Духа разумом не понять
Natapolinata75 1 year ago
класно я тоже так хочу !
Smv76m 1 year ago
Попришибать бы всех жидовствующих еретиков. Спаси Господь заблудшие души.
Tanger8351 2 years ago
To understand this video you must accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour and read your bible.
Acts chapter 2
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16 ... spoken by the prophet Joel; (Joel 2:28)
Kitties500 2 years ago
"Dad" Hagin has been a Dad to heretics in the Word Faith movement. Like Copeland. THey make me sick to my stomach. THe very arrogance of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. People need to know the TRUTH.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
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JayMichell 2 years ago
how does s religion out of a small valley in the middle east take over the world ///////
1954toth 2 years ago
Entertain people and they will follow you. Showmanship ! Make them laugh. Tell funny stories. Use the power of suggestion. Use a little stage hypnosis. Do all of the above and you can start your own religion anytime, anywhere.
johnny102marvin 2 years ago
absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well said "johnny102
mtavarez4561 2 years ago
This is not the religion that has taken over the world, this is not what true Christianity is all about.
Kedorlaomerist 2 years ago
змеи
otrajenie777 2 years ago
Praise the Lord. Thank you Lord Jesus. I love you
cianfogarty 2 years ago 2
1 Corinthians 14:40 "But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner." This is demonic and has nothing to do with God and is contrary to scripture.
mistermiguel17 2 years ago
No many christians will enjoy the drunkeness of the Holy Spirit in this earth, but when they will see God I wonder how that will be ,, Oh my gosh, I just can't imagine the full power of God of that day..
Brownbuddy 2 years ago
Kenneth is laughing because of the fools who keep sending him money so he can continue to twist scripture for his own gain.
manhoot 2 years ago 2
exactly -- nicley put Manhoot
mtavarez4561 2 years ago
what year is this
electricguitarplayr 2 years ago
i agree Virginia777
wwwy2000 3 years ago
What...an...embarrassment to Christianity. The bible said that church is a place of order. Not chaos.
Virginia777 3 years ago
Amen to that...
ALIENWarriorX 3 years ago
that makes me sad to hear that you have never laughed in the Holy Spirit, the joy of the Lord is so wonderful
anointedemcee 2 years ago
guys before judge i suggest you read a bible about holy spirit and joy of god. here you can find one explanation what is really going on. for people who cannot judge by spirit this cannot to be understandable. such laughter hard make fake. some people tried make it, but their success was not good. how i know it comes to you when you not anticipate. by hypnotism it imposseble to make becose one man should control all people and make order what they shuold do.
lifeoflive 3 years ago
THANK U SOO MUCH
th4etruth 3 years ago
This is shockingly insane. These 'pastors' need to be isolated from the society ASAP and closely watched by medical professionals. They are harming and damaging innocent people's minds using religion as their weapon. True Christianity has NOTHING to do with this circus.
yfedchun 3 years ago
i didn't even believe in this stuff, and i went to a crusade like this and it happened to me and everyone around me. you can call hypnotism, but you need someone to hypnotize you to be hynotized
Cmey2k 3 years ago
NO ITS THE SPIRIT
th4etruth 3 years ago
i guess yopu people would rather have them out getting drunk, or maybe not having emotions at all
Cmey2k 3 years ago
GROW UP
th4etruth 3 years ago
We are definitely living in an age where human beings are totally saturated with psychopathology. People like this should all be shipped to Siberia.
TheyTookMyThumbs 3 years ago
you mock jesus said,cause they dont understand.
curtis1933 3 years ago
U DONT EITHER SO DONT TALK
th4etruth 3 years ago
I believe there's going to be heads hanging in shame when we're before God,when he asks us to prove we know what's in the heart & motives of a man that we felt we had the right to pronounce judgement.He said Watch & Beware,not openly condemn, for if you're right, then no harm done. But if you're wrong, what do you do then? I think heaven is going to be full of surprises.Many a judged man will hear "well done my son",+many of us "condemners & "discerners" may not be able to look God in the eye.
Dreya43 3 years ago
Dreya 43 in the mean time lets just let any false teacher come in the church at anytime they want - plant there heresy and we shld just not say anything because of the poss of them being right - no way - when Jesus threw out the mony-chngrs from templ many thougt he shld not do that and were up set with him - but still he thru them out '!! as he shld have- and christans shld not allow heresy in the church either!!!!
mtavarez4561 2 years ago
Do a search on John Wimber (on you tube) and perhaps do comparison (some great teaching from John Wimber about the gifts of the Holy Spirit).
PaladinMark 3 years ago
intheblessing part 2In his home town synagogue quoted Isaiah the spirit of the Lord is upon me he then sat down a sign that a Rabbi is about to teach saying today this has been fulfilled in you hearing THAT MEANS I AM TELLING YOU I AM MESSIAH
pianohbc 3 years ago
Wow. What a wonderful example of self-control! (Galatians 5:22-23)
TheotherPrometheus 3 years ago
Nehemiah 12:43
Also that day they offered great sacrifices, and rejoiced: for God had made them rejoice with great joy: the wives also and the children rejoiced: so that the joy of Jerusalem was heard even afar off.
Proverbs 17:22
A merry heart does good, like medicine,
But a broken spirit dries the bones.
Nehemiah 8:10
...for the joy of the LORD is your strength.
God is not a stuffy God, folks!
intheblessing 4 years ago 2
The blind leading the blind and they will both fall into the ditch.
37361811 4 years ago
notice how the people in the beginning that fall outta the chairs.. on their chairs it says reserved... so they gotta know him an he prolly tells them to do that. but the other people in the audience prolly laugh cuz of him...
i like how the girl at the end makes the weird noises... is that suppose to be God to her or something? cuz she seems crazy to me...
ariellep07 4 years ago
Mat 24:3-5 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ', and will deceive many.
savdbygrce 4 years ago
DECADENCE OF THE AMERICAN IMPERI
ced37W 4 years ago
SCARY!!!. This is the type of people(demon possesed) that bless the american army when they go to massacre people in Third World countries, thieves, lyers (right winners, fascist). I stick to my socialism, wich is more compatible with Jesus teaching than.
ced37W 4 years ago
BULL-SHIT!!!!!
redmark2007 4 years ago
Is this the P.T. Barnum Circus? These folks obviously have no conscience, surely no intelligent person could fall for this SCAM...Right???
redmark2007 4 years ago
that's fine that you're bored. however, perhaps it is you who does not understand. you condemn me for not having "tested their words in light of scripture." Which i have done. Look, I have figured it out. And I am getting condemned for believing that Jesus spent time in hell so that i don't have to. He took the punishment of my sin.
sozotumbles 4 years ago
And where does it say I condemn you? Nobody is condemning you for believing Jesus spent time in hell. You're just being told you're wrong. Show me where it says Jesus spent time in hell. Is that so much to ask?
rorshakks 4 years ago
sozo. I'm bored with you. You just don't get it. You're a teenager. Maybe you'll figure it out eventually.
rorshakks 4 years ago
And just because i'm a teenager does not indicate that i am an idiot who is unable to comprehend and make decisions for myself regarding my beliefs. I am a spirit made in the image of my Father God. I have His nature. I'm made in His likeness.I am an incarnation of a spirit. Yes. I have 3 parts.. body, soul(mind), and spirit.
sozotumbles 4 years ago
Man I love this man he is so funny God bless some people worship God in different way's lol funny.
lilsteller 4 years ago
H.A.G.I.N. = "Heretic Assumes God Inspired Nonsense"
Acronym77 4 years ago
If you are daft enough to be taken in by these people then you deserve everything you get. They are egomaniacs, desperate for celebrity, failed actors, too stupid to be politicians (that says somethin) to hopeless to be singers. They'll do anything except work.
174JK50 4 years ago
I know the man and his family personally. First off, he lived clean. Seconely, You who are complaining about this guy need to reread scripture. Thirdly, unless you've ever really sat under him and seen people healed whom you personally knew to be sick, stop whining
gittardude1975 4 years ago
I agree with you that this man lived clean. I know this as a fact because God could have revealed Hagin's sins to the church if this person didn't live clean, but God didn't do that to him, did he? I wouldn't complaining about the preachers. It's the power of God that heals people! Praise God!!
God bless you, gittardude1975!!!!!:)
P.S. I love the Campmeetings (that takes place during the summer) at RHEMA!!!!
2BaMD 4 years ago
HAGIN AND THE LIKE ARE FALSE TEACHERS! It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. Test his words in light of what Scripture says and you'll find him to be contradicting Scripture. Bad stuff. WoF theology is heretical. Research it and move on to biblical preachers like Charles Stanley, John Macathur, Ravi Zacharias.
rorshakks 4 years ago
could you please show me where he contradicts himself?
It doesn't take a genius to realize that men like this are putting their faith in the Word of God into practice.
Can you prove that they are contradicting themselves WITHOUT taking it out of context or doing your research first?
sozotumbles 4 years ago
I don't have his many contradictions memorized. Sorry. I'll give you some quotes of his that I do remember. And actually, it would do you well to research anything a man of God says and test it in light of what scripture says. Or is that a biblical prescript that you're not interested in? Over the years many Christian organizations who are interested in biblical clarity have researched his teachings, IN CONTEXT, and have found him to be a false teacher.
rorshakks 4 years ago
His book titled How to Write your own Ticket with God is one example of being unbiblical. The title itself is an unbiblical concept. His positive confession theology is nowhere to be found in the bible. "He [Jesus] tasted spiritual death for every man. And His spirit and inner men went to hell in my place. Can't you see that? Physical death wouldn't remove your sins." Sorry pal, but Christ didn't go to hell and suffer as WoF theology purports.
rorshakks 4 years ago
There are countless errors in WoF theology. Read your bible and get out of it.
rorshakks 4 years ago
How dare you insult me by suggesting that i don't read my Bible. Do you see no faults in the theology you seem to deem correct?
and how do u know that he didn't go to hell?
what is the punishment for sin? death! Spiritual death, which is separation from God. and He became sin for us so that we wouldn't have to suffer eternity in Hell.
sozotumbles 4 years ago
How dare you insult God by following a false teacher and claiming he isn't one. You may read your bible but you obviously don't test Hagin's words in light of Scripture's words. If you did, you'd realize the errors. How do I know Jesus didn't go to hell? Where does it say He did?
rorshakks 4 years ago
And will you explain some of these so called errors please?
sozotumbles 4 years ago
Acts 2:27
27Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:30-32 30...knowing...God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
intheblessing 4 years ago
I'm sorry, intheblessing, but which of your comments is directed to mine?
rorshakks 4 years ago
This is one of my favorite quotes as it is very easy to remember and assail the WoFer with. "The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." -Ken Hagin
Really? Can you show me where it states that in the bible, sozotumbles? Didn't think so.
rorshakks 4 years ago
What was the context of this quote? Context means everything.
No, it's not a direct quote from the Bible.
sozotumbles 4 years ago
I've already given you some. Research your own belief system/denomination. I already have. As I said, I have tested their words in light of scripture (which we are instructed to do) and found WoF BAD/INCORRECT/DANGEROUS AND HERETICAL.
rorshakks 4 years ago
If you look up the definition for incarnation then you see as one of the results...A bodily manifestation of a supernatural being... are you denying that we are supernatural beings?
sozotumbles 4 years ago
So you're saying we're bodily manifestations JUST like Christ? Check another definition of incarnation and you'll find "a living being embodying a deity or spirit". Are you a deity, sozotumbles?
rorshakks 4 years ago
radicalgrace said:BREAKING NEWS!!! Look at today's news top store. CBS News has learned Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is investigating six prominent televangelist ministries for possible financial misconduct. The six ministries identified as being under investigation are: Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn.
BoycottTBN 4 years ago
Anyone know how Kenneth Hagin was born again?
11kenneth11 4 years ago
I left WOF churches sp you are assuming that some of us do not know what it is like in these churches. I left because they taught unbiblical doctrines...
Estaah77 4 years ago
No it is not. Because God gave HIS WORD it is called the Holy Bible and it is the only measure of authority in ourlivs. God's word says things are to be done decently and IN ORDER. God also said not to speak tongues without an interpreter. God said 2 or more witnesses sould judge prophecy. So why isn;t anyone in the WOF doing these things?
Estaah77 4 years ago
Got any scripture to back that up? nope
Graziella7 4 years ago
Hello,
I have important scriptures and will send by e mail. There is serious concern with kenneth Hagin because he teached the cross is defeat and Paul teaches the cross is life. By being crucified with Him we live. Ga 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Ken
11kenneth11 4 years ago
Heb. 11:37-38
37They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
So how does this verse fit w/ God wants you rich false gospel?
Estaah77 4 years ago
Hi,I heard kenneth copeland, say that joseph was not sold by his brothers to the midianites,but by some other people who took him out of the pit and they sold him, this is not the truth, he was sold by his brothers, for a pastor to preach this shows that he should study his bible more often as his teaching are heard in many countries
robocindy 4 years ago
robocindy, read Genesis 37. It will tell you all this.
shipofpraise 4 years ago
How can I can a full copy of that sermon?????
lgilmore636 4 years ago
Hi, I should have keeped the video of his sermon , it was round about a month ago, if you go to his website maybe you will find, I love the bible story of joseph and I have read it many times that is how I know that he made copeland made a huge error.
robocindy 4 years ago
robocindy, if you read Genesis 37:25-36, you will see where the Ishmeelites sold Joseph to the Midianites who sold him to Potiphar. Reuben went to get Joseph out of the pit, but he was too late. The Ishmeelites beat him to Joseph. You have to read it carefully.
shipofpraise 4 years ago
My family has every recorded sermon of his on external hard-drives. If I started listening now it would take years and years before I finished.
jyoder240 4 years ago
It is my understanding that his son said that blacks and whites should not marry. And then Kenneth Hagin, Sr, would not denouce that statement. Is that true?
esquireyes 4 years ago
I'm not sure, I've never heard anything about that. Sounds sketchy though. A close friend of ours is black and his wife is white. They were part of the Rhema singers and band for awhile.
jyoder240 4 years ago
Well, I really liked Hagin until I heard that. & I have seen him & the singers in person, bought his books, etc.
I do know that when Dr.Price was preaching on Racism on TV, he did play the audio where this was stated 'But' he would not identify the person by name.
Since then, I looked at this crazy Rev Manning (hypocrite/had never heard of him b4) on Y.T. attacking Dr. Price. In reading the Postings, 1 person stated that it was the Hagins that had done that.
esquireyes 4 years ago
iyoder240
"They were part of the Rhema singers and band for awhile."
What are they doing now? Why are they not a part of the singers and band any more?
esquireyes 4 years ago
There's God and then there is you - a god. You, Copeland, Hinn and many many more. Or will you realize that God is the only God? Man is not a little god, in spite of what these abominable word-faith/prosperity people teach. It's not that hard to tell.
rorshakks 4 years ago
You want to know if man is a god. Sounds good to me. He must be since He is made in God's image. Or is that likeness? Don't remember. I would think since He is in us, and we are in Him, that would make us a little god. What does the Bible say? Hey! it's been a LONG time since I had chemistry and phys. science.
belovia50 4 years ago
We are not in Him. What does the Bible say? It does not say we're little gods. Why don't you read it and study extrabiblical sources as well.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
What do you mean? Doesn't the Bible say that we are in Him? In Christ, perhaps? I read the Bible all the time, just can't read for long periods of time. I do pay attention as much as I can. Had a fall and was hospitalized. Memory hasn't been the same, but I try.
belovia50 4 years ago
No it doesn't say that we are in Him. What would that mean anyway? It's great that you're reading the Bible and trying to study it. That's the goal. Get into the Word and get the Word into you.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Yes it does. We are to abide IN HIM. See John 15...Eph 4 also says this
Col 2
6As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up IN HIM, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Estaah77 4 years ago
What is taking so long for the Hagin/Copeland faithfulls to respond? Surely they have answers for these gross teachings of the Scriptures by their heroes of the faith. Surely. I am surely waiting. Surely I am impatiently waiting. No wonder heiress2millions is an heiress to 2 million dollars-she's a god, just like Copeland says.
rorshakks 4 years ago
It's Wednesday night, rorshakks. Some Christians go to church on Wednesday night. Plus, Kenneth Copeland is having 2007 Days of Refreshing on the Web. That's prob where they R.
belovia50 4 years ago
Ya, I think rorshakks was trying to keep them from that. It's all psychosociological manipulation. Just like the video. We weren't truly waiting for a good answer because it probably doesn't exist. That's why it's been many hours. Please try to pay attention.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
....waiting....(what are they thinking? Could the greatest men of God actually be dangerously wrong? Could their flock actually test their words with due diligence and find something very wrong?) Oh, ya, truth doesn't matter that much. This flock goes with feelings first.)
rorshakks 4 years ago
Copeland teaches that Adam was "created in the god class"; i.e., he was a reproduction of God: Copeland said this: "He was not subordinate to God but was walking as a god with the authority of a god. What he said went. What he did, counted. [And when he] bowed his knee to Satan and put Satan up above him, then there wasn't anything God could do about it, because a god had placed [Satan] there" ("The Force of Love," tape #02-0028).
CRApologetics 4 years ago 2
Here are some more of Copeland's heresies: "You're all God. You don't have a God living in you; you are one! When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, 'I AM,' I say, 'Yah, I am too!'" ("The Force of Love," Tape BBC-56).
CRApologetics 4 years ago
I thought I provided the quote. Here it is: "Don't be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you are God. They crucified Me for claiming I was God. I didn't claim that I was God; I just claimed that I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah! That's what you're doing ..." ("Take Time to Pray," Believer's Voice of Victory, 2/87, p. 9) This is Jesus supposedly telling this to Copeland.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
help me out here please, I can only remember Matthew 27:11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
I can't remember any scripture where Jesus specifically claimed he was God
intheblessing 4 years ago
intheblessing Jesus used many forms of Jewish rabbinic teaching answering a question with a question, pictures using Scriptures and teachings the Jews would have known were about Messiah using the tetrammogram which was rarely used the name of God Moses was given the great I AM Jesus used this in the garden and all the soldiers fell down, when talking to Pilate he said you have said that I AM and you will see me coming in glory a direct reference to Messiah
pianohbc 3 years ago
Apparently not. Can you explain it? Can you explain why contradict yourself? You stated that you believe Jesus is God but when I show you that Copeland said Jesus told him He wasn't God, you have no problem with that. Do you see how you contradict yourself?
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Who cares if she is very rich? What does that have to do with it?
CRApologetics 4 years ago
I'm sure you know many things that are correct but you don't get it that Hagin/Copeland are false teachers. I've provided proof of this and you have provided no (substantive) rebuttal. All you have to do is test what they have said in light of what scripture says, and then you'd see. It's not that complex.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
I have respect for many people. You just don't know what you're talking about. You're just upset with me AND yourself because you don't even understand basic Christian doctrine and teachings that the martyrs spilled their blood for. Like I said, so much for knowing what you believe and why you believe it.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
You had a teacher who taught you truth and you wanted no part in that. You just want prosperity and riches here on earth. You can't even address ONE of the unbiblical beliefs of your word-faith,name it and claim, blab it and grab it prosperity buddies. Quite pathetic. So much for knowing what you believe and why you believe it.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Nice ad hominem. No one here is claiming to be a know it all. You're just using that as a petty defense. What a typical charismatic you are-obsessed with prosperity. It doesn't matter if you don't know all the teachings of Hagin and Copeland. I provided you with examples of their biblically-contradicting statements and you couldn't care less.
CRApologetics 4 years ago 2
No, you're wrong. Nobody here thinks they know it all. Nice try though. No one here denies the power either. You failed to address any of the teachings that show Hagin and Copeland to be false teachers.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
to all of you who say that they're just acting. Well, what is faith? Faith is an act. Faith without works is dead. If you act out in the natural, God will come upon you with His Supernatural. I used to not think this was real till one day the HOly Ghost came on me the same way. I've been happy ever since.
kittyjezebelle 4 years ago
I've seen enough and been in enough meetings that I know what is going on here. I'm not going to criticize God's people, not am I their judge. God is. The Spirit is moving, I feel it, don't you? However, there are a few people that I have a problem with, but that's in every meeting where the Spirit moves. Someone, other than oneself will do something that is questionable.
lilredbug 4 years ago
i could see if they were prasing god saying halelujah and glory to god but theese people are acting drunk and just yelling nothin, now im not gonna be the guy that says kenneth hagin and copeland are heretics or false prophets and are going to hell because im human just like they are they may have missed it along the way like i have and i dont have a heaven or hell to put hem in.
HokieFromNC 4 years ago
And why are they acting drunk? Because they think the apostles in Acts 2 were acting drunk. Clearly the apostles weren't acting drunk. Hagin and Copeland are false teachers because they deny essential/historical Christian doctrine.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
I'm confused - you've said several times now that the apostles "clearly weren't acting drunk" but Acts 2:13-15 says "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. 14But Peter, ...lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
People wouldn't "suppose" they were drunk if they didn't act like it
intheblessing 4 years ago
3 Thessalonians 6:7 -- "NOW WE COMMAND YOU, BRETHREN, IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THAT YE WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM EVERY BROTHER THAT WALKETH DISORDERLY...(7) FOR YOURSELVES KNOW HOW YE OUGHT TO FOLLOW US: FOR WE BEHAVED NOT OURSELVES DISORDERLY AMONG YOU."
THE APOSTLES DID NOT BEHAVE DISORDERLY, SO WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM THOSE WHO DO. A DIRECT COMMAND!!!
JESUS IS COMING VERY, VERY SOON - BEWARE THESE FALSE TEACHERS!
All4Jesus2 4 years ago 2
intheblessing the Bible says they thought they were drunk BECAUSE EACH HEARD THEM TALKING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE- it tells you why -not because they were rolling around the square acting like animals
pianohbc 3 years ago
pianohbc --- well said!!!
mtavarez4561 2 years ago
Thank you- this movement is now superceeded by the new heresies of the emergent chuch and the interelation between the social gospel of Warren with the New Age agenda which presses on into the White House by advising Obama via the USA Armt Think Tank !!
pianohbc 2 years ago
i belong to a word church and i think this is to much as a matter of fact kenneth hagin ministries is coming next month to my church. but i do believe in speaking in tounges and praise and worship but this is to much people falling out of there chair shouting hooping and hollering and cutting flips in church.
HokieFromNC 4 years ago
You need to equip yourself with biblically-based reasons that demonstrate why Hagin ministries are bogus. They teach a muddy mix of truth and non-truth.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
im not the man to argue with you every pastor out there stretches the bible to what it means to them. i dont agree with every thing they (Copeland and hagin) do but who r u to judge ure not god you dont know what the true intentions of there hearts are they done good and bad who hasnt.
HokieFromNC 4 years ago
Kind of all over the map on that one, Hokie. Your statement about every pastor is wrong because you cannot know such. If you read the Bible you would know we are to judge, but not self-righteously or hypocritically. I'm not judging their eternal destiny, but their theology. It doesn't square w/Scripture so therefore I have a right to say so. You're completely missing the point.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Your arguement is tantamount to saying, well the Mormons think Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer, but who am I to judge if that's right biblically or not. Clearly, you know very little of what the Bible says.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
it's obvious that u dont know what the Bible says. if you look for fight, fight the Devil. NOT flesh and blood. That's Biblical.
kittyjezebelle 4 years ago
I'm fighting bad doctrine, which you clearly cannot decipher.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
awsome
arsit 4 years ago
yall need to put some more kenneth hagin videos on here. that would be nice.
missmarleneoh 4 years ago
Sorry, I am logged in under my sister.
mercedebaby 4 years ago
rorshakks, one week ago, you said you were commanded to explain to others why this is so unbiblical. Now you say you're not trying to change them. You're right, I don't get it.
mercedebaby 4 years ago
Yes, we're commanded and instructed to tell others of the truth. When I say I'm not trying to change them I mean I know I cannot change them, only the Holy Spirit can do that, but if I'm doing something unbiblical, I want others to let me know, just as I am letting them know. You know?
CRApologetics 4 years ago
You just don't get it. I haven't condemned them at all. You apparently want me to though.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Not trying to change them.
rorshakks 4 years ago
I would bet most Christians from centuries past to present, would call this chaos. And you'd be a fool to bet they didn't worship in the Spirit. I'm not saying God only likes my worship. I'm saying I would bet He doesn't like this type of outlandish "worshipping". But that's just my opinion.
rorshakks 4 years ago
I love how people say that we're not to judge others. They don't realize that's a judgemental statement in itself. We are to judge-but not hypocritically.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Well I know as much as any discerning Christian knows. You're completely missing the points that I and others are making. How do we know God doesn't like this type of worship? Because he's a God of order not chaos. This is chaos. These people are running and flopping around out of control. This is unbiblical.
CRApologetics 4 years ago 2
Been a believer a long time, and most things dwindle away after awhile. If there is a spirit behind something, it usually doesn't. If I remember right, we are to leave the tares with the wheat and let Jesus deal with it. I don't think there should be arguing going on like this.
belovia50 4 years ago
So the Holy Ghost is only free when He is allowed? You're arguing and critizing others as well, so don't try to pull that crap here.
rorshakks 4 years ago
who are you talking to, rorshakks? the Holy Ghost is easily grieved and prefers to be welcome in a church service. It seems some of you just want to pick on heiress2. Why is that? That is who you're speaking to?
belovia50 4 years ago
THIS IS THE SOUND OF SATAN !!!
Not of our holy Lord !
Sad, very sad !
metiusco 4 years ago
Did you see all the men gripped onto each other? This reeked of homoerotism! WEIRD.........................
rtmnjs31 4 years ago
And you've been given a sneak peek of the other side have you?! Sheesh and I thought the people in the video were weird!!!
rtmnjs31 4 years ago
Well unlike you, I know how to read the Bible for all it's worth. If you have read it you would understand this type of worshipping is not in the Bible. This is not a good witness of the truth of Christ because these people are acting looney.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Don't sweat it dude. These signs and wonders people actually believe Jesus worshipped this way. Want to know how Jesus worshipped? Go to a Synagogue on Friday night.
rtmnjs31 4 years ago
Indeed.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Crapo? Wow, that's real Christian of you. "Try it you might just like it." No thanks, I'll take the objective word of God over subjective emotionalism and general misreading of Scripture.
rorshakks 4 years ago
As a Christian you should understand that since the video bothers because it is unbiblical to act this way; I am commanded to explain to others just why it is unbiblical.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Ya'll all are "kenneth" haters!!! i love this!!!
kittyjezebelle 4 years ago
No. No one here is a Kenneth hater. We hate his unbiblical teachings. He teaches a muddy mix of truth and non-truth. Find someone better to listen to.
rorshakks 4 years ago
heiress2millions: I doubt you have knowledge whether there were or were not unbelievers at this meeting. It's irrelevant anyway. The point is that this is a terrible witness. Rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollably is unbiblical.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
They are not being criticized for being happy and having a good time in the Lord. They get criticized because their theology contradicts biblical Christianity.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
heiress2millions: You're first two sentences don't make sense. Here's what I get from your first 2 sentences: Because you've heard so much about those Pentecostals, that should tell me something. What should it tell me?
CRApologetics 4 years ago
There is nothing in the Bible about rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollably. There is nothing about "holy laughter" in the Bible. PROVE ME WRONG.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
As I said before, "holy laughter" is NOT in the Bible. Please show it to me, heiress2millions. Please show it to me.
rorshakks 4 years ago
Great!The bible says the joy of the Lord is our strengt.And the kingdom of God is Truth ,Peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.What is wrong with that.YOu better enjoy life ,than to be a critic.
zshella 4 years ago
Joy is a FRUIT of the Holy Spirit not an emotional feeling that uncrontrollably comes over you.
Estaah77 4 years ago
Estaah77: apparently, you tried to reply to an older comment. Which one or ones of the previous five replies were addressed to me and what is your point???
GlorifyHisHolyname 4 years ago
If you've ever experienced this blessing, you will never be the same. Why do you think the apostles were willing to suffer torture and death for their Lord. Don't worry, Holy Spirit is a gentleman, he won't force himself on any who don't want him.
lilredbug 4 years ago 2
This is a manifestation of laughter in the Holy Spirit. You people need to be very careful as you're walking on dangerous ground here. Jesus warned us NOT to blaspheme the Holy Spirit as there is no forgiveness for it.
lilredbug 4 years ago 2
Indeed, rolling around on the ground and laughing uncontrollable and claiming it's the Holy Spirit IS blasphemy. There's nothing in the Bible about this type of behavior. And there is nothing in the Bible about "a manifestation of laughter in the Holy Spirit".
rorshakks 4 years ago
Is the Holy Spirit more powerful than Jesus? Didn't Jesus say the HS would lead all men to Him? Where's the winning of souls in this picture? All that's missing from this is Booger's "Wonder joints" and alcohol. God have mercy on the signs and wonders crowd. The people of Ninevah didn't sin so a great a sin in the sight of God. The WORD warns us!
rtmnjs31 4 years ago
AS THAT PUSH & IN FRONT WERE THOSE WINDS ONCE HERE BUT QUICKLY GONE REMEMBERING TO COME BACK YESTERDAY<---& SATAN LAUGHING SPREADS THOSE WINGS; THE TOMORROW OF PRESENT PEOPLE SCREAMS REMAINING WITHIN THIS CONSTANT PAST {OF THE ESSENCE IS NO MORE} but maybe we all can chance a new language before the ELSE does, it just may- & IT IS JUST.
theenot 4 years ago
What a horrible witness to unbelievers. This video is aptly titled.
rorshakks 4 years ago
I wonder how much they made off of this one? Great plants in that audience. Just right in front and easily suggestible. Or, just great acting. This is so dumb. It is always at a podium and there is always a bunch of desperate silly women and henpecked men to just let themselves out of the noose for some conjob.
distressed7 4 years ago
This is nothing but heresy and wickedness in the sight of God!
rtmnjs31 4 years ago
I'd be careful of calling God's manifestation wicked. What if you're wrong? We are held accountable for what we speak. And I, for one, know that this is real and from God only.
angelkissesx2 4 years ago
This clearly isn't God's manifestation. You need to be careful to be be so duped into believing whatever you see Christians doing. Rolling around and laughing uncontrollable is unbiblical. PROVE ME WRONG.
rorshakks 4 years ago