i'm from the former CZ in Panama, still living here today. i brought all three of these CDs. i read the on the inside cover: "panama is on the end of Central America. However Panama has much more in common culturally with the Caribbean and South America". ( namely Colombia and Venezuela ) Good call......
...that is, Colombia and Venezuela for South American influences and culture... but also Cuba, Santo Domingo, Puerto Rico for spanish caribbean... and Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad for english stuff.
ily panama. we are a misunderstood ppl. we perfected the recipe america tried to produce, which was da great stu dat come sout of the melting pot. we got the best of the best in our country. all the spices and flavorl from the west indian, the beauty and soul of our indigenous ppl, the seasoning from our spaniard opressors, and made it our own. we arnt latino nore hispanic we are panamanian n damn proud of it
@FullSwagSyceGame507 I can agree with you. Either way its still our country, even if we're so far removed from the actual West Indian...or indigenous, influences, we're still a terrific blend regardless. Its the corporate interests in their ignorance/ indifference to the culture that makes it harder. Perhaps our blindness adds to the problem, but its still home.
u know what thats the best way to describe it!! not just becuase u said "we are not hispanic" but more so I can respect the perfect American country. its true and should be for the entire new world we cant just throw one cultural lable on so many people with different ancestrial influences.
I love what you are doing very informative but its sad to see the diminishing of a rich culture that is very strong and respected every where else in the world where its music is loved, duplicated and played. to me in Panama the antillianos lost their way due to prosecution from the national majority.
THis is a reality check for all the children of antillean ancestry..I here some of them talk and say they thank the jamaicans for coming to their country and sharing their culture, i just say to myself you are one of them. Its like in order to be excepted they traded there identity just my opinion but can anybody expain whats going on in panamanian antillianos? now everyone want to speak spanish record west indian music and call it spanish or latin style like what really good down there?
@coppashotboy I dont know how to even explain that one. There was this whole trove of music and all of a sudden.....gone!!!! But i guess that it was all about trying to sell off the whole idea that it was our ancestors labor, blood, sweat and tears that made that something out of a country intended to satisfy yankee interests. Either way we fit in...screw those old tired spaniards who sold off their soul just to rob the country.
ppl ignored alot of the video. the ignored the part that stated there where cumbia influences, mambo influences; and just heard when dey said calypso n mento.
I am born & raised in Bklyn Ny and have been priviledged to know wonderful Panamenos... My sons godfather being one of them and was witness to the wave of PANAMENO that came to Brooklyn in the 70's. one group that they forgot was THE BEACHERS. Also... I went to the carnival in Puerto Limon Costa Rica & say Bush.....that guy had a BAD conjunto! Vaya to my man Reginaldo Boyce!!!
My god, their sound was a unique sound that stood out. As a Brooklyn baby of the 70's any Panamanian party that l can remember never went without playing a Beachers cut. lt was expected, but why didnt the producers put out a few of their songs??? the cuts that were put, l have to say most of the older generation would be thinking: wtf???
i co-compiled this record. the point was not to include a representative of the most popular groups at the time. clearly the beachers were a top combo, and i made it clear in the liner notes to mention the important contribution of groups like the beachers. some of the songs were by tiny combos many people barely recalled, but we chose the song on the strength of the song itself.
I understand but the big question is what is latin sounds in general? is it African drums or spainsh guitars or native flutes? I mean the word latin itself boggles me. when did JAZZ, reggea, ROCk etc become latin and the people from jamaica trinidad bajan Garifuna ASIA etc.. like wise?? when has my African roots and contributions becoem subject to Hispanic copy right? when has the indegenous rights of passage become subject to hispanic heritage month with spain as the common ground?
THE MUSIC ISNT LOST! the LATIN MARKETING SCHEME LIKE THE WORD LATIN ITSELF HAS ROBBED MANY CULTURES AND HERITAGES. IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF LATIN NON OF THIS FITS. CALYPSO AND REGGEA HASNT GONE ANYWHERE THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT A LATIN STAMP ON EVERYTHING NOW IT JUST FALLS INTO THEY CATEGORY. IN MY OPINION ITS DIRESPECTFUL THAT THE AFRO ANTILLIANO INFLUENCE CANT BE APPRECIATED BECAUSE IGNORANT PEOPLE WANT TO CALL IT LATIN AND ITS NOT!
from the co-compiler: with respect to the comment below about "latin sounds" and the following discussion about the erasure of afro-antillean identity, please look at the whole title of the album and refer to the liner notes. a huge part of the panamanian sound was due to the afro-antillean presence and contribution. that being said, there were also "latin sounds" in panama, or rather "afro-cuban" or afro-latin sounds. again, please refer to the liner notes. thanks for your interest!
muy buena introduccion a lo k es nuestra herencia AfroAntillana y la mezcla de Razas k somos, a raiz de la construccion de nuestro Canal. Orgullosamente Panamena! Gracias por esa ilustracion tan acertada; es muy importante ser Panameno...
Finally! A great introduction that tells it like it is! The Panama Canal may have been engineered and paid for by Uncle Sam, but it was the labor of immigrant workers, primarily from the Antilles that made it a reality. As it stands, the subsequent prejudice fueled by racism, from both the gringos and the criollos, has denied them their rightful place in history and to this very day continues to deny them access to the social economic prosperity which they secured with sweat & blood for Panama.
cool. I will certainly be checking this album out!
hossackpaul 2 weeks ago
YES!
everadopgil 6 months ago in playlist Global Retro Sounds
i'm from the former CZ in Panama, still living here today. i brought all three of these CDs. i read the on the inside cover: "panama is on the end of Central America. However Panama has much more in common culturally with the Caribbean and South America". ( namely Colombia and Venezuela ) Good call......
This music ain't dead yet.
fleacz 1 year ago
...that is, Colombia and Venezuela for South American influences and culture... but also Cuba, Santo Domingo, Puerto Rico for spanish caribbean... and Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad for english stuff.
fleacz 1 year ago
Solido!!
Ikonoclasto 1 year ago
ily panama. we are a misunderstood ppl. we perfected the recipe america tried to produce, which was da great stu dat come sout of the melting pot. we got the best of the best in our country. all the spices and flavorl from the west indian, the beauty and soul of our indigenous ppl, the seasoning from our spaniard opressors, and made it our own. we arnt latino nore hispanic we are panamanian n damn proud of it
FullSwagSyceGame507 2 years ago
@FullSwagSyceGame507 I can agree with you. Either way its still our country, even if we're so far removed from the actual West Indian...or indigenous, influences, we're still a terrific blend regardless. Its the corporate interests in their ignorance/ indifference to the culture that makes it harder. Perhaps our blindness adds to the problem, but its still home.
tine214 2 years ago
@FullSwagSyceGame507
u know what thats the best way to describe it!! not just becuase u said "we are not hispanic" but more so I can respect the perfect American country. its true and should be for the entire new world we cant just throw one cultural lable on so many people with different ancestrial influences.
touggie2000 1 year ago
I love what you are doing very informative but its sad to see the diminishing of a rich culture that is very strong and respected every where else in the world where its music is loved, duplicated and played. to me in Panama the antillianos lost their way due to prosecution from the national majority.
touggie2000 2 years ago
THis is a reality check for all the children of antillean ancestry..I here some of them talk and say they thank the jamaicans for coming to their country and sharing their culture, i just say to myself you are one of them. Its like in order to be excepted they traded there identity just my opinion but can anybody expain whats going on in panamanian antillianos? now everyone want to speak spanish record west indian music and call it spanish or latin style like what really good down there?
coppashotboy 2 years ago
@coppashotboy I dont know how to even explain that one. There was this whole trove of music and all of a sudden.....gone!!!! But i guess that it was all about trying to sell off the whole idea that it was our ancestors labor, blood, sweat and tears that made that something out of a country intended to satisfy yankee interests. Either way we fit in...screw those old tired spaniards who sold off their soul just to rob the country.
tine214 2 years ago
ppl ignored alot of the video. the ignored the part that stated there where cumbia influences, mambo influences; and just heard when dey said calypso n mento.
FullSwagSyceGame507 2 years ago
I am born & raised in Bklyn Ny and have been priviledged to know wonderful Panamenos... My sons godfather being one of them and was witness to the wave of PANAMENO that came to Brooklyn in the 70's. one group that they forgot was THE BEACHERS. Also... I went to the carnival in Puerto Limon Costa Rica & say Bush.....that guy had a BAD conjunto! Vaya to my man Reginaldo Boyce!!!
rbodden369 2 years ago
My god, their sound was a unique sound that stood out. As a Brooklyn baby of the 70's any Panamanian party that l can remember never went without playing a Beachers cut. lt was expected, but why didnt the producers put out a few of their songs??? the cuts that were put, l have to say most of the older generation would be thinking: wtf???
tine214 2 years ago
i co-compiled this record. the point was not to include a representative of the most popular groups at the time. clearly the beachers were a top combo, and i made it clear in the liner notes to mention the important contribution of groups like the beachers. some of the songs were by tiny combos many people barely recalled, but we chose the song on the strength of the song itself.
soundwaybeto 2 years ago
I understand but the big question is what is latin sounds in general? is it African drums or spainsh guitars or native flutes? I mean the word latin itself boggles me. when did JAZZ, reggea, ROCk etc become latin and the people from jamaica trinidad bajan Garifuna ASIA etc.. like wise?? when has my African roots and contributions becoem subject to Hispanic copy right? when has the indegenous rights of passage become subject to hispanic heritage month with spain as the common ground?
touggie2000 2 years ago
THE MUSIC ISNT LOST! the LATIN MARKETING SCHEME LIKE THE WORD LATIN ITSELF HAS ROBBED MANY CULTURES AND HERITAGES. IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF LATIN NON OF THIS FITS. CALYPSO AND REGGEA HASNT GONE ANYWHERE THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT A LATIN STAMP ON EVERYTHING NOW IT JUST FALLS INTO THEY CATEGORY. IN MY OPINION ITS DIRESPECTFUL THAT THE AFRO ANTILLIANO INFLUENCE CANT BE APPRECIATED BECAUSE IGNORANT PEOPLE WANT TO CALL IT LATIN AND ITS NOT!
touggie2000 2 years ago
LATIN SOUNDS???
touggie2000 2 years ago
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soundwaybeto 2 years ago
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from the co-compiler: with respect to the comment below about "latin sounds" and the following discussion about the erasure of afro-antillean identity, please look at the whole title of the album and refer to the liner notes. a huge part of the panamanian sound was due to the afro-antillean presence and contribution. that being said, there were also "latin sounds" in panama, or rather "afro-cuban" or afro-latin sounds. again, please refer to the liner notes. thanks for your interest!
soundwaybeto 2 years ago
muy buena introduccion a lo k es nuestra herencia AfroAntillana y la mezcla de Razas k somos, a raiz de la construccion de nuestro Canal. Orgullosamente Panamena! Gracias por esa ilustracion tan acertada; es muy importante ser Panameno...
minescott01 2 years ago
Finally! A great introduction that tells it like it is! The Panama Canal may have been engineered and paid for by Uncle Sam, but it was the labor of immigrant workers, primarily from the Antilles that made it a reality. As it stands, the subsequent prejudice fueled by racism, from both the gringos and the criollos, has denied them their rightful place in history and to this very day continues to deny them access to the social economic prosperity which they secured with sweat & blood for Panama.
elcocoye22 2 years ago
Great video! Does anybody know where I can find the song "Love Letters" from this album? I've been looking everywhere but cannot find it :-(
scully739 2 years ago
awesome video, awesome tunes! really well edited!
FuguMaxima 2 years ago
as little boy in colon i used to hear a lot of calipso music but now is like no body knows anything about it
3DG27 2 years ago
this is good it was about time
3DG27 2 years ago
Very cool and never heard music from Panama before. Respek!
563839 2 years ago