This is cool! any tips on how to do prepared guitar? i can't find any sort of tutorial on how to start, i got some cool sounds by using a paper clip but that's about it.
this is unusual... trippy soundscapes....this plus some darkpsy would be real interesting. great job ...cuz the first video of noise music i saw made me hit my computer. (it was a lady in A B/W video). this is really good sound design sir.
Let the guy do what he wants guys. I don't necessarily like the texture of what you're doing man, but I applaud you for doing what you enjoy. I prefer just beating the guitar out of tune with the distortion after my reverb tank for some explosion sounds, and maybe banging the strings with a screwdriver. OH, and take the plastic plate off the back and the trem springs make for some interesting noise too.
interesting effect. i like the way the notes mute out rather then sustain. combined with the feedback it really does sound like bells. lysergic bells.
@ChainsawSerpent Uhm... It's been a while since I made this video, but as far as I recall I stuck a toothpick and a flatpick (plectrum) under the strings in two different places. That's what make it kind of sound like bells.
However some of the overall sound comes from the guitarpedals, mainly the flanger and the delay. I find a delay indispensable.
Try to put someting under the strings. That should kill the melodic-ness pretty fast. Sorry about the late answer. :)
I LOVE your sounds. Paintbrush wasn't too impressive though (try scrubbing a toothbrush on the sixth string in between 12th fret harmonics- fun stuff) Otherwise it was pretty cool. Reminds me a little of A Million Years by Wolf Eyes because of the space between sounds and the slow crescendo.
@0rfe4s The "preparations" are a flatpick and a toothpick under the strings. The effects are BB preamp (slight distortion), TC SFC (Flanger) and Boss DD-3 (delay).
@CodyRicheson I agree 100%. Like everything else it is better to know the rules before you bend or break them. I have a couple of years music theory on highschool level - not exactly a strong background - and I don't claim to make proper noise music. I'm just fooling around. Nothing serious. ;-)
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing.say whatever you want but a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
@DistortionGainTreble I'm sure nobody here means to disrepect talented musicians, who can actually play. I certainly don't.
Anyway thanks for taking your time to comment and explain your anger. I don't neccesarily agree with you on that noise music takes anything away from educated and talented musicians. I also don't think there's a wrong way to play any instrument. But I appreciate your explanation. Thanks. :-)
@DistortionGainTreble "Real educated"... Mmmm, as far as guitar goes, almost every single person who made a real contribution (Jimi, Clappo,May;Page,EVH;Zappa,etc etc etc) was a self-taught musician. If you´re being "educated" (or trained, like a dog) it could get more difficult to develope a personal view & style.
Beyond the platoon of smart,risky&creative musicians, lies a deep ground of cheap copycats who play fast enough and can´t even tell what the hell they´re doing. That´s a FACT...
funny how hateful and offended people get whenever it's about experimental/noise/drone/ambient music. Almost the same reaction as when electrical guitars came up. Shock Horror and Blasphemy! If you can't relate to it, just skip, dammit. No reason to get so offended, makes you look ridiculous. Even more than you suppose this kind of music is.
it's a guitar, stop rubbing shit on it and make something that sounds nice you bog rat, go back to the fucking factory you leant this dreaful noise from. i bet your parents are spinning in their graves/urns/ wherever you buried the cunts that their son couldn't understand the simple fucking meaning of a guitar and how to play it nicely. Twat.
A.k.a Autism Music. What's next? Fart music where the guy fart in the trumpet for 4'33''? This is the decline of aesthetic. It's like music paraphilia.
@anhbht Thanks for your interesting comment. I like the reference to John Cage. Did you know that there's a website called "music for autism"? BTW I have an urge to go further with the decline of aesthetics. :-)
Thank you very much, I listened to noise music several times. when you listen to it and do not watch video it is some kind of mood excellently performed on guitar. Thank you :)
Thanks man, that's a huge compliment. TG was here in my town a couple of months ago, but the tickets were sold out in no time, so I missed the show. Damn!
great job man i have jsut starting messing around with prepared guitars after a recent obcession with sonic youth but i have yet to make something this cool
Hi Naynap81086, Thanks man, I'm glad you like it. :-)
I'm not quite sure what you refer to by "semi-melodies", Maybe it's the combination of the flanger and the delay: Sometimes it seems that it causes some of the overtones to clash, kind of like a ring modulator. I'm not sure if that's what's happening here though.
I'm glad this video got you back to the guitar. Pedal noise is interesting. You should video it and post it on YouTube ;-)
Hi bioduck42 - A Prepared Guitar is a guitar with some objects placed under, between or on the strings. In this case a toothpick and a flatpick. The term comes from John Cages "Prepared Piano". There are entrances on Prepared Guitar aswell as Prepared Piano in Wikipedia. Thanks for your interest. :-)
Hello, very good performance. I want to buy a console from 4 to 6 inputs to connect 2 electric guitars, a bass and a microphone. Which of the following brands offer better quality: Behringer, Phonic or SKP? Thank you very much for your reply, regards.
Hi pankudowics, thanks for your comment. I'm glad you like my performance. Mostly it's just an experiment with sound - just fooling around.
I'm sorry, but I don't think I can be of much help regarding your choice of mixing console. I've had the Behringer console for about 10 years now and I never had any problems with it. It works well for what I need. I don't know anything about the two other brands you mention.
This is great. I like the fact your not varying the amount of effects, just manipulating the ones you have. Its like if you limit yourself a small handful of things then your forced to be more creative with what youve got. Very clever.... Oh, ands a stunning piece too...
i'd suggest downloading the soundtrack. The OST for Silent Hill 2 (it was a game originally but the movie encompasses the music pretty well), is probably the best in terms of a good mix of industrial, ambient and dark ambient. :)
Very awesome, sometimes it seems that making and listening to noise is the only thing to keep us all sane. The paint brush is amazingly cool sounding. Good choice for effect set up, gives it a nice echoing ambiance.
Thanks my friend, I'm glad you like it. I've checked out your videos and you make some really interesting stuff. I like your experiments - Keep on rocking!
Thanks - glad you like it. I can see what you mean about the movie. It'd have to be a spooky movie, though, something like "Blair Witch Project", don't you think?
Well The blair witch project is one of my favorite movies despite others critisism. But yea I think it would. See this is stuff like I do on guitar making new tones and sounds.
great stuff. love keith rowe, frith, kaiser, jim o'rourke, all the noisey guys...
bonecreakulysses 1 week ago
This is cool! any tips on how to do prepared guitar? i can't find any sort of tutorial on how to start, i got some cool sounds by using a paper clip but that's about it.
NucularTheArtist 1 month ago
this is unusual... trippy soundscapes....this plus some darkpsy would be real interesting. great job ...cuz the first video of noise music i saw made me hit my computer. (it was a lady in A B/W video). this is really good sound design sir.
mohitmaini1 3 months ago
I just love noise music! I really don't know why, but I just do so much!
Vojife 4 months ago
nice setup, check mine out
BrittonDeJong 4 months ago
Let the guy do what he wants guys. I don't necessarily like the texture of what you're doing man, but I applaud you for doing what you enjoy. I prefer just beating the guitar out of tune with the distortion after my reverb tank for some explosion sounds, and maybe banging the strings with a screwdriver. OH, and take the plastic plate off the back and the trem springs make for some interesting noise too.
All the best!
MrMuddyBleach 4 months ago
Far out.
username91ification 4 months ago
interesting effect. i like the way the notes mute out rather then sustain. combined with the feedback it really does sound like bells. lysergic bells.
Dustin322 5 months ago
This is strangely calming and transfixing. Almost otherworldly.
moneyquickeasy 5 months ago 3
@moneyquickeasy Thanks! :)
ThumbsAtWork 5 months ago
The sad thing is, if ANY of you saw David GIlmour doing this, you'd be screaming with joy.
MichaelEMJAYARE 6 months ago
@MichaelEMJAYARE Thanks for this really nice comment. I am happy about all the positive comments and I don't really mind mind the negative.
I am sure David Gilmour would do it a million times better - but thanks. :)
ThumbsAtWork 5 months ago
really really awful :(
cheesespin 6 months ago
@cheesespin Sorry about that! ;)
ThumbsAtWork 5 months ago
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How does it feel to be the one who ruined music?
xXfalken16Xx 7 months ago
what the fuck is this man doing to that stratocaster...
pacrat90 7 months ago
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Fucking bad!!!! sry ...
Slashpower156 7 months ago
Fucking bad!!!!
Slashpower156 7 months ago
@Slashpower156 Big thanks!!!
ThumbsAtWork 7 months ago
@Slashpower156 all prepared guitar vids are bad.
pacrat90 7 months ago
If you don't mind me asking, how exactly do you prepare a guitar like on here? Cuz every time ive tried it still sounds real um...melodic.
ChainsawSerpent 8 months ago
@ChainsawSerpent Uhm... It's been a while since I made this video, but as far as I recall I stuck a toothpick and a flatpick (plectrum) under the strings in two different places. That's what make it kind of sound like bells.
However some of the overall sound comes from the guitarpedals, mainly the flanger and the delay. I find a delay indispensable.
Try to put someting under the strings. That should kill the melodic-ness pretty fast. Sorry about the late answer. :)
ThumbsAtWork 7 months ago
Oh God it stopped loading at 0:06 those eyes stared into my soulll D:
universalsingularity 9 months ago
@universalsingularity LOL! I hope you're okay! :)
ThumbsAtWork 8 months ago
It acually doesnt sound that bad. ^^
RikaRulez 9 months ago
@RikaRulez Thanks :)
ThumbsAtWork 9 months ago
i'll look for a cheap guitar...
cikankisminozeti 1 year ago
@cikankisminozeti Good idea! You don't need an expensive guitar to make noise. ;)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago 3
very cool
NashidaMuslima 1 year ago
I LOVE your sounds. Paintbrush wasn't too impressive though (try scrubbing a toothbrush on the sixth string in between 12th fret harmonics- fun stuff) Otherwise it was pretty cool. Reminds me a little of A Million Years by Wolf Eyes because of the space between sounds and the slow crescendo.
feldmanspotatoes 1 year ago
niiice
vomiol 1 year ago
what effects do u use to make this noise?
0rfe4s 1 year ago
@0rfe4s The "preparations" are a flatpick and a toothpick under the strings. The effects are BB preamp (slight distortion), TC SFC (Flanger) and Boss DD-3 (delay).
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
@ThumbsAtWork thank u very much :)
0rfe4s 1 year ago
yea baby
raj6041 1 year ago
I loved it, those sounds with the brush were amazing!
Skate4apples 1 year ago
@Jimlead Absolutely! Thank God we have freedom of speach an Thank God we don't have to like the same things. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
It often takes a strong background in music theory to create proper noise music.
CodyRicheson 1 year ago 3
@CodyRicheson I agree 100%. Like everything else it is better to know the rules before you bend or break them. I have a couple of years music theory on highschool level - not exactly a strong background - and I don't claim to make proper noise music. I'm just fooling around. Nothing serious. ;-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
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i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
DistortionGainTreble 1 year ago
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i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
DistortionGainTreble 1 year ago
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing. a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
DistortionGainTreble 1 year ago
i have been a guitar player for a long time now and i must say it kind of hurts me to see my beloved instrument being used in such a wrong way. i don't care what other people will say,this ''thing'' isn't playing.say whatever you want but a guitar has frets and strings for a reason,striking the strings with a paint brush is not the way to do it. the reason why i'm angry is because you people are actually being praised for doing this,when real educated and talented musicians remain unnoticed.
DistortionGainTreble 1 year ago
@DistortionGainTreble I'm sure nobody here means to disrepect talented musicians, who can actually play. I certainly don't.
Anyway thanks for taking your time to comment and explain your anger. I don't neccesarily agree with you on that noise music takes anything away from educated and talented musicians. I also don't think there's a wrong way to play any instrument. But I appreciate your explanation. Thanks. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
@DistortionGainTreble "Real educated"... Mmmm, as far as guitar goes, almost every single person who made a real contribution (Jimi, Clappo,May;Page,EVH;Zappa,etc etc etc) was a self-taught musician. If you´re being "educated" (or trained, like a dog) it could get more difficult to develope a personal view & style.
Beyond the platoon of smart,risky&creative musicians, lies a deep ground of cheap copycats who play fast enough and can´t even tell what the hell they´re doing. That´s a FACT...
Roswellsounds 1 year ago
funny how hateful and offended people get whenever it's about experimental/noise/drone/ambient music. Almost the same reaction as when electrical guitars came up. Shock Horror and Blasphemy! If you can't relate to it, just skip, dammit. No reason to get so offended, makes you look ridiculous. Even more than you suppose this kind of music is.
hansiipansii 1 year ago
@hansiipansii I too wonder why people get so upset. It's kind of interesting, though. Thanks for your support. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
So it's ONLY noise. So why are so many people upset by it?
neeeiiiilll 1 year ago
@neeeiiiilll Exactly! It's just noise. Nothing much to get upset about, as far as I can see. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
This guy can't play the guitar. Whatever makes you feel like a musician I guess...
3510211 1 year ago
it's a guitar, stop rubbing shit on it and make something that sounds nice you bog rat, go back to the fucking factory you leant this dreaful noise from. i bet your parents are spinning in their graves/urns/ wherever you buried the cunts that their son couldn't understand the simple fucking meaning of a guitar and how to play it nicely. Twat.
hot4belgians 1 year ago
@hot4belgians Thanks for watching my video and taking the time to make a comment. Have a nice day. And good luck with the belgians.
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago 13
@hot4belgians Noise is the most Beautiful type of Music.
kronguild 1 year ago
A.k.a Autism Music. What's next? Fart music where the guy fart in the trumpet for 4'33''? This is the decline of aesthetic. It's like music paraphilia.
anhbht 1 year ago
@anhbht Thanks for your interesting comment. I like the reference to John Cage. Did you know that there's a website called "music for autism"? BTW I have an urge to go further with the decline of aesthetics. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
@GHEE4345 Thanks man! That's a HUGE compliment. Syd was great. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 1 year ago
Thank you very much, I listened to noise music several times. when you listen to it and do not watch video it is some kind of mood excellently performed on guitar. Thank you :)
GeorgianMusic 2 years ago
+1
:D
revspook 2 years ago
dude yer fuckin awesome! one of the best iv seen on youtube,
pukeonmyshoe2130 2 years ago
gamno!gamnoooo!!!!
MagT800 2 years ago
2;10 so cool sounds like orbital
unclekk92 2 years ago
Great,,,
ftelettronica 2 years ago
Awesome. Love the Britney Spears-infuences.
info14media 2 years ago 51
hahahahasas, you are funny man. hehe
cocozaococozao123 2 years ago
dude this is fucking awsome sounds great
blurpy123 2 years ago
like a syd barrett sound?
cnytgvn 2 years ago
Oh yes - Indeed I do!
:-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
Wow dude, I'm usually not a big fan of prepared guitar but you've got a nice style! Really sci fi and mellow.
RawfflesMyWaffles 2 years ago
Thanks! I try to combine the experimental noise with a bit of melody. Glad you like it. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
Reminds me of Throbbing Gristle. Check out "After Cease to Exit [the Original Soundtrack of the Coum Transmissions"
It's very alike, I think.
Slekkevet 2 years ago
Thanks man, that's a huge compliment. TG was here in my town a couple of months ago, but the tickets were sold out in no time, so I missed the show. Damn!
Thanks for the nice comment. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
i really liked it, keep going :)
tuteh486 2 years ago
nice, the brush was a neat idea.
Timotheedle 2 years ago
Thanks man. Glad you like it :-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
great job man i have jsut starting messing around with prepared guitars after a recent obcession with sonic youth but i have yet to make something this cool
riverdragon666 2 years ago
Glad you liked it.:-)
I'd like to see what you get out of your experiments with prepared guitar. You should make a video about it ;-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
Very cool sounds my man!
Is the delay generating those little semi-melodies behind the main noise, or the flange?
I've done some prepared guitar stuff myself but I mostly work with pedal noise, this video has got me interested in guitar again, thank you.
Naynap81086 2 years ago
Hi Naynap81086, Thanks man, I'm glad you like it. :-)
I'm not quite sure what you refer to by "semi-melodies", Maybe it's the combination of the flanger and the delay: Sometimes it seems that it causes some of the overtones to clash, kind of like a ring modulator. I'm not sure if that's what's happening here though.
I'm glad this video got you back to the guitar. Pedal noise is interesting. You should video it and post it on YouTube ;-)
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
What does prepared guitar mean?
bioduck42 2 years ago
Hi bioduck42 - A Prepared Guitar is a guitar with some objects placed under, between or on the strings. In this case a toothpick and a flatpick. The term comes from John Cages "Prepared Piano". There are entrances on Prepared Guitar aswell as Prepared Piano in Wikipedia. Thanks for your interest. :-)
Best regards, Joe
ThumbsAtWork 2 years ago
Thanks!
bioduck42 2 years ago
Hello, very good performance. I want to buy a console from 4 to 6 inputs to connect 2 electric guitars, a bass and a microphone. Which of the following brands offer better quality: Behringer, Phonic or SKP? Thank you very much for your reply, regards.
pankudowicz 3 years ago
Hi pankudowics, thanks for your comment. I'm glad you like my performance. Mostly it's just an experiment with sound - just fooling around.
I'm sorry, but I don't think I can be of much help regarding your choice of mixing console. I've had the Behringer console for about 10 years now and I never had any problems with it. It works well for what I need. I don't know anything about the two other brands you mention.
Best regards, Joe.
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
It has been observed that most people who make noise music own at least one piece of Behringer equipment; usually a mixer.
Coincidence?
:-)
xinaesthetic 2 years ago
Lol, sounds like an horror movie for some reasons XD
Awesome, keep it up!
jesuislepluscool 3 years ago
Thanks :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
noise music? it's an interesting piece, but i wouldn't call it noise
RoseWestxxx 3 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you think it's interesting. I'm curious: If you wouldn't call it noise, then what would you call it? :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
same guy here. would call it ambient drone with a bit of psychedelia within.
AnonXenu12 2 years ago
wowEE! fantastically rad sounds HERE.
ADURG1 3 years ago 2
Thanks man :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
This is great. I like the fact your not varying the amount of effects, just manipulating the ones you have. Its like if you limit yourself a small handful of things then your forced to be more creative with what youve got. Very clever.... Oh, ands a stunning piece too...
luckyphilster 3 years ago
Thanks luckyphilster,
I'm glad you like it. I sure enjoyed making it.
Thanks for subscribing. You Rock! :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
Love the sound dude, nice
Szaam 3 years ago
Thanks Szaam,
Glad you like it :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
very Silent Hill-esque. I wish I could afford a good guitar and some cool effects. Preparing a guitar is easy enough.
Good job though, sounds awesome. :P
Most people cna't play guitar well alone let alone improvise well.
MisterMisanthropy 3 years ago
Thanks MisterMisanthropy,
I haven't seen Silent Hill, but your comment got me interested, so I went out and bought it on DVD today ;-)
Thanks for the nice comment. I hope you get yourself a good guitar some day :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
i'd suggest downloading the soundtrack. The OST for Silent Hill 2 (it was a game originally but the movie encompasses the music pretty well), is probably the best in terms of a good mix of industrial, ambient and dark ambient. :)
MisterMisanthropy 3 years ago
Thanks for the suggestion. Do you have any idea where I can find the download?
Big thanks for favoriting this video :-)))
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
Very awesome, sometimes it seems that making and listening to noise is the only thing to keep us all sane. The paint brush is amazingly cool sounding. Good choice for effect set up, gives it a nice echoing ambiance.
ThePhobiaViewed 3 years ago 2
Thanks - I'm glad you like it. Yes, the paintbrush sound is cool. I also like the "crazy fingers". :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
kick ass! I want to learn how to make more noises! for my live music!
jcsol85 3 years ago
Thanks! Hope you find some nice new noise for your show! :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
i like it, sounds cool
skeletor7 3 years ago
Thanks man, I'm glad you like it :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
noise is the way forward, could do more to look at thou
thecaptainshow 3 years ago
Thanks. I agree about the visuals. I could learn something from you.
Thanks for subbing. I've subbed back. I like your music as well as your videos. :-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
Very interesting.
I think noise music would be more popular with visual effects.
puppyblood 3 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you like it. You are right about the visual effects. Thanks for the constructive criticism.:-)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
interesting! love&brain.
5stars for u from far east Japan.
oiooioo000 3 years ago
Thanks my friend, I'm glad you like it. I've checked out your videos and you make some really interesting stuff. I like your experiments - Keep on rocking!
Thanks for the rating! :-)
Cheers, Joe.
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
thank u 4 watching.
I have to check your others vid.
oiooioo000 3 years ago
I like it. It would go good in a movie.
donbomb92 3 years ago
Thanks - glad you like it. I can see what you mean about the movie. It'd have to be a spooky movie, though, something like "Blair Witch Project", don't you think?
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
Well The blair witch project is one of my favorite movies despite others critisism. But yea I think it would. See this is stuff like I do on guitar making new tones and sounds.
donbomb92 3 years ago
An artist under the influence of LSD :)
Herbal tea is safe to consume with caution.
Great - love it
akacie 3 years ago
Thanks my friend. I'm glad you like it. I had fun making it. I might even do some more - so be warned.
Herbal tea - I'm all for it! :)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago
Hmmm
jhbie 3 years ago
Hehehe ;)
ThumbsAtWork 3 years ago