Christianity,Christmas Forbidden (Verboten) in Nazi Germany

[Search4diabetescure]

This is RUBBISH.

It presents all religions as being equally valid and same by way of all having been persecuted by the Nazis.

In Russia after Jews took over, persecutions were focused exclusively on Catholic and Orthodox faith. Judaism was left untouched, and decrees were made that if anyone molested Jews, they would had to pay a high price.

The TRUE CHRISTIAN FAITH, Catholic/Orthodoxy, were the true focus of persecution. Protestantism has always been a "sold out" religion and NOT Christianity

[MrJohn9273]

In reality, true personal Christianity isn't weak, for the Lord IS our strength. "When we are weak He is strong..."

[lutzdify]

@MrJohn9273 Read nature's Eternal Religion by Ben Klassen.

[ThomasRowsell]

The Allies perpetuated the myth that the nazis were anti-christian.

In truth hitler did expect christianity to die out on its own, they had no policy of attacking the church at all, hitler wanted german protestants and catholics to be united under national socialism and did not intend for the party to substitute their spiritual needs in place of the church.

Hitler was not a catholic though. He had been something of a pagan mystic before the war but became an agnostic/atheist

[lutzdify]

@ThomasRowsell Hitler sometimes in private stated that Christianity was weak and flabby(which I personally agree with) as well as having it be declared by Goebbels in around '44 that all churches would have to remove all crosses and replace it the ancient symbol of the swastika, the official party symbol.

[lutzdify]

Warning: ntheAttic might be an ADL infiltrator agent!!!! Don't Trust what he says; they are no better than the media LIES about the fuhrer!

[lutzdify]

Yes hitler was not a communist by any strech of the imagination, but he never allowed a member of the clergy to attend the funeral of a fellow party member. Also, if he was so devout a christian, then why are the ss letters shaped like Germanic runes!? Hmm???

[ThomasRowsell]

@lutzdify himmler was in charge of all that, not hitler

[ArturAxmann]

Ridiculous shameful propaganda, dishonest and incorrect to the infinite degree.

[hipstermi]

This is a lie. For one it's not a "newsreel" that would imply a reporter made it.

For another there are pictures of nazis at church functions and Christmas events....including HITLER. I have been unable to uncover such "German Church Regulations" either.

Why do you Christians lie so much about this stuff?

[Iisdabest889]

@hipstermi You're trying to claim Hitler was liberal and tolerated religion. If the Church didn't suffer under Hitler as it did under Communism, then that tells us Hitler WAS liberal and not as evil as made out to be.

Unfortunately, the pagan church of "God Believers" ended up sending many Christians to concentration camps.

[TheAmazingamerica]

Probably the reason u didn't site the source of this video is because it is total propaganda.

[wwwtotalitaerde]

This is exactly what was going on in Germany. And this persecution of religion still continues. My family is being persecuted because or ancestors did not collaborate during the 3rd Reich. Because they were christians. Do not believe whatever German snitchers tell you.

Check out my channel and homepage.

[TheAmazingamerica]

@wwwtotalitaerde Maybe your family should move if that is the case. Last I checked there are planes in and out of Germany.

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

"My family is being persecuted because or ancestors did not collaborate during the 3rd Reich. Because they were christians"

Bullshit. No one today in Germany give a rat's ass if your Christian family didnt help Nazis.

And if what you say IS true...you can move. Your European Union citizenship let's you freely travel and LIVE in a host of other countries in the EU.

But I suspect this is some lame symapthy ploy on your part...

[wwwtotalitaerde]

@hipstermi If you hate Israel and the Jews and support German atrocities, why dont you come to Germany to live here? They are alwys looking for foreigners making pro German propaganda. They may even support you with a lot of money, girlfriends, support, prestige.

Give it a try, come to Germany and offer your help in covering todays Germanys aim for world domination.

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

"If you hate Israel and the Jews and support German atrocities, why dont you come to Germany to live here"

YOU LIED

I never said I hated Israel or anything like that.

YOU LIED.

None of my posts say that so-

YOU LIED.

Why did

YOU LIE?

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

I called you out on your misleading statements and a claim your family is discriminated for not supporting Nazis...and instead of directly addressing that point...YOU LIED about me.

Why couldn't you rationally debate the point. Something like "we are discriminated because..." or "if you read___ you see my claims are true"

But no, instead you made a false accusation about me "hating Israel when I never even mentioned Israel one way or another.

YOU LIED.

[wwwtotalitaerde]

@hipstermi Some of the murders by the German BND known to the public

Uwe Barschel(politician),Jürgen Möllemann(politician),Heiner Gehring(author),Martina Pflock(political activist),Tron(internet activist),Karl Koch(political/internet activist),Bernd Seiffert(human rights activist),

Kirsten Heisig(author/judge),Fritz Bauer(persecutor of the Frankfurt Auschwitz processes),Markus Bott(human rights activist)

There is no need to suport Germany using murder as a standard tool to silence any opposition

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

"There is no need to suport Germany using murder as a standard tool to silence any opposition"

Look dickhead, I never said anything like that or showed any support for Germany.

YOU LIED.

You havent provided any quotes. I NEVER SAID THAT. I corrected you on this...

YOU LIED.

So AGAIN- I do not support Germany. I questioned your bullshit claim.

You should be ashamed for exploiting your grandparents memory like this all for an internet debate.

[wwwtotalitaerde]

@hipstermi Denying German human rights abuses and insulting the victims IS supporting Germany and its human rights abuses. A decent reaction would be to support torture victims, or at least to try to get relevant information. Not to deny these atrocities right away.

And I wrote that my granduncle "and the whole family were openly persecuted by the West German state. This included torture and murder till today."

The German state TODAY is still torturing and murdering my granduncles family.

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

"Denying German human rights abuses and insulting the victims IS supporting Germany and its human rights abuses"

No it's not, you idiot.

For one, YOU could be wrong.

Or I could be wrong. That's not denying... that's error.

you LIED about me and need to come clean about this.

"A decent reaction would be to support torture victims, or at least to try to get relevant information"

How would I do that, you LIED about me instead of explaining or providing proof.

YOU LIED

[wwwtotalitaerde]

@hipstermi In this case you may at least have a glimpse at my channel and homepage. I recommend my films

Brainwashing and LIDA

Folter nachts

Concealed Messagas: The Allies, part 2.

31 Anneliese Michel English, part 1 + 2

[hipstermi]

@wwwtotalitaerde

Lets try this again:

1. You claim the German government is killing people TODAY for opposing Nazis in the 40s. This includes not hte people that did it (most being dead) but offspring.

2. I questioned this.

3. YOU then LIED and said I "supported" germany.

4. If you want to debate you can say "you're wrong because____"  or "proof is at ___"

5. How do you expect me or ANYONE to believe you...when you LIED about me and what I said.

YOU LIED. Admit it.

YOU LIED.

[bohemianh]

Germany has always been Christian, there are many films of National Socialists celebrating Christmas, this is the work of usa propaganda, jews.

[headly66]

This is mostly fake film, not actual Nazis doing it.

The Nazis were Christians.

Hitler said in Mein Kampf that he was doing God's work in destroying the Jews.

All Nazis had belt buckles with the saying "God on our side".

All Nazis had to take an oath to Hitler using God in it.

The first treaty signed by the Nazi party was with the Vatican.

The Vatican celebrated Hitlers birthday every year until the end of the war.

[Iisdabest889]

@headly66 Only at first Hitler spoke positively about God in PUBLIC, but in private he stated "“Christianity will disappear from Germany just as it has done in Russia . . . The German race has existed without Christianity for thousands of years . . . and

will continue after Christianity has disappeared . . . We must get

used to the teachings of blood and race.”

He also stated in private "One cannot be both German and Christian."

Doesn't sound very Christian to me.

[headly66]

@Iisdabest889 Doesn't change the fact that German's were and still are Christians. So Christians put the Jews in the ovens.

[wwwtotalitaerde]

@headly66 Negative.

My Granduncle was very christian like his parents and brothers and sisters. He had studied and wanted to become judge. During the 3rd Reich he denied collaborating with the system and could no longer continue his internship in court. That was it for the time being. But after the war he, and the whole family were openly persecuted by the West German state. This included torture and murder till today.

[Iisdabest889]

@headly66 Well obviously it does if polish catholics were sent to the ovens with the Jews. Stop lying.

[headly66]

@Iisdabest889 Lying about what? The German people are Christians plain and simple. they were before the Nazi's then were during and they are today. Therefor the men who killed the Jews were Christians. What Catholics have to do with anything I don'r know, you do remember the hundreds of years of battle between the Protestant English and the Catholic Irish???

[lutzdify]

@headly66 The German people have only been Christians since the mid-to-late 9th century A.D. Before that, They worshipped Gods like Wotan and Donar. This is a FACT!!

[SaveSoaps]

The Nazis didn't even believe that Jesus was a Jew, they turned him into a blond Aryan which proves how little the person posting this nonsense video understands the reality of Nazi religious views.

[londonclash]

The Nazis were Christian. They had their own brand of Christianity mixed with paganism. Hitler was a Christian. These are facts.

I just watched another video of top Nazis celebrating Christmas, anyway.

[Iisdabest889]

@londonclash No, Hitler was a pagan. Why else were clergymen sent to prison camps?

[anonUK]

@ListenConfirmAct

Stalin was an Orthodox monk in Tbilisi in his childhood.

Hitler's relationship with Catholicism was complex. He claimed to some people to be rationalist and agnostic, or urging others to believe in the Fuhrerprinzip as a nationalist religion. However, his main success was with Protestants. More Saxons and Prussians voted Nazi than Bavarians and the Lutheran bishops took oaths of loyalty to Hitler over any other authority.

[mdnis]

The pope viewed Nazism as un-Christian. It is absurd to say he was "Hitler's Pope."

And did not Hitler say "Communism is the bastard child of Christianity?" Hitler had no use for religion.

[headly66]

@mdnis Hitler said in Mein Kampf that he was doing God's work in destroying the Jews.

[BTIsaac]

So, where's the moron who usually jumps in and say the Christians were responsible for Nazi Germany?

Religion had nothing to do with the Holocaust. Handling money in the middle ages, was the medieval equivalent of working at McDonalds, and back then, only Jews were desperate enough to do it. Then in the 20th century, people woke up to find that Jews ended up controlling Europe's economy. The Nazis being violent and simple minded decided to solve the problem the old-fashioned way: killing them.

[bohemianh]

There are so many sources to show Germans have had Christmas for hundreds of years.  This is so silly that people bought this crap and fought Germany Italy and Japan. Just travel to Europe is is overrun with non Europeans, WW2 was a big mistake for Europe and the USA.

[headly66]

@bohemianh Overrun with non Europeans? Like The Americas, China, India etc were all taken over by England?

[ENGLISHBL0KE]

Is this a recording from Fox News circa 1940?

[SPAZANATA]

Hitler had little interest in religion apart from where it could get him politically. As such he sided with the Church to get himself in and was fairly indifferent about it afterwards. He combined the Church with Nazism if anything, by placing Nazi symbols inside places of worship.

Please read a (real) book on the subject before you comment on these matters.

[winterweib]

It wasn't forbidden but the Nazis tried to give it other meanings, they sung other songs and so on, they wanted to make a pagan midwinter celebration and people should forget normal chistmas but they didn't.

[11ceberus11]

I absolutlely love the "o come all ye faithfull" juxtaposed with the destruction. beautiful. incredibly wrong, buit beautiful all the same.

[dyhanendra]

the kids singing remind me of those kids in baltimore singing about ObSama, the Neue Fuhrer.

[ShutUpYouMong]

Anyone who compares any American President - regardless of party - to Hitler and what he did is a fucking idiot.

[winterweib]

@dyhanendra Don't babble such a crap!

It would have been better for the world if Hitler would have been like Obama. Many millions of people would have survived.

[dyhanendra]

@winterweib ....it would have been better if hitler (y'shm ) would have been like charlie chaplin, or fatty arbuckle, or calvin coolidge.

but to blind yourself to striking resemblences -- to be myopic to the surreal similarities that are daily occurring just because you're enthralled with soetero, willfully drinking the Kool-aid--just proves that you are being intentionally ignorant.

november is coming.

[winterweib]

@dyhanendra Yes,November is coming and going as it does every year.ShallI be afraid of you?I bet I know more about Nazis and their poor little self-confidences which made them become a Nazi than a Nazi would be able to understand.I am happy Obama is President now,it was the highest time that the rightists got kicked off.Everyone who finished more than kindergarten would agree.

[moonshinerman]

this is a Frank Capra propaganda vid. They also tried to sell everyone on the idea that Russia was a friend of the United States so let that be a guide to the enormity of the bullshit presented here

[ntheAttic]

If anything Hitler killed off those priests not because they were christians, but because they were people who disagreed with him.

[lonewulf44]

Have you ever heard the phrase 'two birds with one stone' ...

[ntheAttic]

Hitler was catholic.

Do some research and you will come across a nazi propaganda poster saying; "by eliminating the jew I am doing gods work" and in that poster is a picture of hitler and jesus.

Hitler was not communist.

This is an american war propagand film.

[lonewulf44]

You say that like it's a bad thing "This is an american war propagand film" ... you are of course correct and this film has more than just a foundation of truth ... and of course is great and needed propaganda.

[ntheAttic]

No propaganda is ever great or needed.

Once again Hitler was christian, thats part of the reason he hated jews, he felt they executed jesus.He felt they were created by Satan.

Ans american war propaganda, or just plain old american propagand allways claims the enemy is godless and hates christianity, why? because there are alot of christians in the U.S. and in particular wacko fundamentalist types who are just aching for the apocalypse and have there lips firmly around jesus prick.

[lonewulf44]

Wow ... it's really not even worth replying to such garbage as that. Your intolerance amazes me; your total lack of any factual knowledge is simply astounding in that you would put that lack of information up for all to see. What's funny is that your disregard for religion actually relates and is much more in tune with what Hitler believes actually ... Get out of your closed mindedness, read a real history book, and please think before you type such filth. *Shakes head*

[ntheAttic]

everything ive said about hitler is a fact.

Its also factual what I said about one of the main features in american propaganda.

your the one who needs to do the research my friend.

and if it wasnt worth replying,,then why did you?

[lonewulf44]

"He felt they were created by Satan" ... Non fact ... Hitler did not believe in Christian theology. Won't even mention your odd ideas of US politics.

[Sunilkanwar]

@ntheAttic More over, they were fully supported by the Vatican even after their deeds were in the clear and the war was over. The escape of so many Nazis to South America was facilitated by their brothers in crime, the Vatican!

[Iisdabest889]

@ntheAttic Hitler killed 16% of the Polish Clergy, and the Nazi propaganda contradicts most of what Hitler said about Christianity in private.

[jason2520]

Propaganda. There are pictures of Nazi officials celebrating Christmas as late as 1944.

[lonewulf44]

Are you that naive my friend ... During the war all officials were essentially required to go through the formalities of Christmas due to appearances. Read Goebbles diaries and you'll see that the Reich was prepared to abolish and replace the church in the coming years but the war forced a hold due to the people. This is probably more accurate than even it's creators knew.

[lutzdify]

@jason2520 Yes, but what they were celebrating was not the Christian xman filth, but the pagan yultide celebration.

[tubuspart]

...shame for this big LIE...

[lonewulf44]

What LIE? The crazy comments or the video? Wiki D. Boenhoffer