CNN-YouTube Democratic Debate Question: China-Taiwan

[503zzach]

Why are there so many UGLY chinese girls like this one?? : /

[m0rphzone]

man WHO CARES ABOUT CHINA or TAIWAN or the US or WHATEVER FUCKING COUNTRY SHOULD BE PART OF WHICH.

We are all humans. THIS IS OUR EARTH. As long as we work together to find cures for diseases like cancer or find better sources of energy, or innovate, THERES NO FUCKING REASON TO ARGUE over asinine topics like this.

Or we can keep arguing and destroy the Earth and then there'll be no such thing as life, just barren planets circling a star. Your choice.

Now I'm off to study and play ball.

[boereriem]

@m0rphzone How sweet an idealist. All I need is one more and then I'll have a full set.

Sadly idealists dont defend human rights they only constantly jabber on about everybody having human rights. 

[m0rphzone]

@boereriem lol exactly. there's no time to worry about insignificant things like this. i have better stuff to do :) and I suppose you do too. But of course if you want that full set, I'll get you one.

[chufuss]

take the side of the democratic society. China is corrupt under the ccp

[nagamora]

fuck taiwian .it's no more than an american military base to be used against China in the next war n to push forward the illuminati global " anti nationalism" consperacy . nobody's fooled by those democracy n freedom lies .

same for the Japanese Okinawa n Guam n now some Vietnamies islands ...

if China goes on a unification war I would support them fully

[mathpianist93]

@ludahai71: 'terrorism' shall be only used to refer to the attack on civilian targets in the name of a political cause. the fact that there are many within the ROC who would use the destruction of the Three Gorges Dam as a possible (but ineffective) deterrent shows that YOUR side has the terrorists.

'China are the terrorists': great. you insulted our whole nation. and technically, Taiwan is part of China, so you insulted yourself as well.

[mathpianist93]

@ludahai71: not true when the current and last leader has been implicated in corruption scandals either during their tenure as presidents or before. when do you hear of that even in the US?

and read AzureFeatherfly's post on your page regarding this 'democracy' LIE.

and again, don't twist the word 'legitimate', which should only be referred using international LAW. 'consent of the governed': when do you have true 50% + 1 of the entire population with low turnout?

[vincelee7676]

@mathpianist93 I am soooooo glad you mention the word legimate. No one has ever voted in china for the past 5000 years, what will it take? another 5000 years?

All media outlets are censored, china jail journalists, human rights abuses cases are in the millions. All the nations that sourround china has military alliances to fight china during war. China is NOT a LEGIMATE country.

If you like china so much, then you are free to move there YOURSELF. don't ask others to join you.

[mathpianist93]

@ludahai71: your comments lose ALL legitimacy when you say that only democratic gov'ts are legitimate, which should only be used according to international law.

[lanuiiohu]

i'm chinese, our miliary is weak. We are afread of America

[vidkid1]

Do you actually believe that the Chinese military could stand up the the US? The US military has the ability to walk over any country in the world. No other country, or even the combination of several countries could even come close to seriously threatening American military forces.

[jarcar101]

if China ever wanted to invade Taiwan,, America could not stop it, becuz China is a much superior military power..

[vidkid1]

you're an idiot.

[jarcar101]

why do you say that???

[Enigmatism415]

It's the PRC's fault for failing to finish what they started in the Chinese Civil War, which they apparently did not win completely, as evident in the survival of the ROC. Good thing, too, because the ROC has shown themselves to be the economically and politically superior government, even if militarily inferior.

Ideally, the KMT will reclaim the mainland in a second civil war, but unlike the CCP, they will do a thorough job and guarantee that no remnants of the PRC remain after they clean up.

[PureAssassinIII]

OMG, you are so fucking ugly!

[lanuiiohu]

china is part of Japan

[NoOne3234]

Taiwan will not declare independence because that would imply that they were a part of some other nation up until the declaration.

[Cullen91120]

China's people are brain wash. Because of they stupid goverment!!!

[mathpianist93]

@Cullen91120: 'China's people' could well mean anyone with ancestral roots from China. so all overseas Chinese are brainwashed?

even if you limit 'China' to mean the PRC... so HKers and Macanese are brainwashed?

[karachisay]

China is Great Country !! Long Live china and Pakistan --- Pakistan will never Support Taiwan -- we hate taiwan !!

[Cullen91120]

Taiwan is Taiwan.China is China.

[mathpianist93]

@Cullen91120: your comment is pointless and open to interpretation

[abhimanyu5]

hahahahaha lol funny stuff.

taiwan start producing nuclear bombs.

how much longer are you going to listen to shit.

china listens to only one word the N WORD !!!

why do you think india has gone nuke crazy and we will keep on producing a GAZILLION NUKES !!!

stop wasting time taiwan, start producing nukes : )

[TheManInTheMasks]

I am going to let it all out...

China doesn't control Taiwan and Taiwan doesn't belong to PRC, they belong to the RC, which is where Chang-Kai Shek, sorry if I spelled it wrong, and his people went and had the Republic of China. It doesn't matter who takes what side, what is doesn't change because someone wants to believe differently... That is the uncut truth...

This is probably offensive to a few people woh don't think that it is true...

[bigblondman1]

@TheManInTheMasks youre right that taiwan does not belong to the p.r.c.but, its does not belong to the rc. i wish it did. .international law is very clear and restrictive toward the rc. status. since the sfpt of 1952 the u.s. has legal status of taiwan and the rc. is a subordinate occupying power. the rc. status is that of a government in exile and therefore not a recognized nation. the law would have to be altered to accomadate the rc. thats politics. very complex. sorry. long live the rc!!

[TheManInTheMasks]

@bigblondman1 If it were the case that the recognition of all would be necessary then no one owns anything because there must be at least one person who claims to own everything in the world. From a de facto perspective, whichever government rules the monopoly of violence over a territory is the owner. If de facto is not the case of ownership then opinion would deem ownership and my first statement would allow me to own the planet. Henceforth, de facto (only one there) can only be the logical 1

[bigblondman1]

@bigblondman1 youre being irrational now. like it or not we are suppose to live by the rule of law that is established by governments legitimately by our votes, not by force of arms or dictatorship. you cannot claim ownership just because you want to. if we all made our own rules there would be nothing but chaos and anarchy. that why there are laws to prevent anarchy. no, defacto or opinion is not the determining factor. civil law supersedes military law. arguing that doesnt change it.

[lanuiiohu]

china belong to Japan

[josh751211]

Taiwan has already been a soveign country~~

China is just our neighbor state, such like Japan

No doubt to confuse each states China& Taiwan.

[caojuning]

Taiwan is always a part of china(not china mainland).WE are all chinese.

[nicksum29]

I am a Taiwanese citizen, but I am not "Asian". Am I Chinese?

[lanuiiohu]

china belong to Japan

[zyzsunny]

it is stupid.but so funny

[Dragondecendent]

Taiwan is so poor, there is nothing for Central Chinese gov't to steal from. Taiwan, however, is riding mainland's coat tail, so they can survive economically.

[terrenceterrence]

yeah..the central government steal from their own ppl by selling them tainted milk.

what's another baby in china in exchange for another dollar. life is cheap anyway over there.

seriously they are worse then the qings and imperial japanese troops combined. atleast those barbarians won't kill their own kind for profit.

[fivehundredolla]

Taiwan

GDP - per capita (PPP):

$31,900 (2008 est.)

China

GDP - per capita (PPP):

$6,100 (2008 est.)

[fivehundredolla]

China is so poor, they want to ride Taiwan's coat tails. China so poor and corrupt they can't even afford good milk or make good schools. They have no accountability, and almost no opportunity, yet they are starting to strut like roosters. Especially the communists that live well off the blood and sweat of others. They probably can't even read this in China. This statement will only make Chinese angry because it's true and they won't dare do anything about it.

[flyingbug001]

hey, Mongol girl, can you please open your eyes?

[mbs198]

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[lanuiiohu]

china is part of Japan

[natznatz]

what planet are u from? U dumb bitch! Ur embarrassing urself by posting stupid comments as such! U deserve to die!

[dolongchunfengzhou]

Taiwan is the BALL of China at the US' hand.

[LEISL1990]

The Americans dont fight for democracy in any countries, but only their own intersts.

I think the answer for this question is pretty simple.. When they kicked the ROC government out of the UN, the decision was made.

[kan1997]

can you open your eyes when you fart?

even the Amercian don't trust the US。

[Powa2]

Open your eyes,(pun intended) to the real world, USA doesn't care about Taiwan

[lanuiiohu]

china belong to japan

[flyingbug001]

Can you please open you eyes? you eys are so small that I think you now are talking blindly!

[Madsam02]

china = peace & love.

[shibownbown]

这个真实民族的悲哀。某个中国人被日本人统治了50年，被驯养成­了一条狗，这条狗还到中国去咬死了三个中国人。。。

[shibownbown]

嘿嘿，今天终于见到一条日本狗的后代了。。。注意，不是日本人，­是倭人养的一条台湾狗，咬死了3个曾经养过它的中国人。。。

[letmecnitellu]

well UR father did not kill enough. This is why they R coming back to take their Patrimony!

[letmecnitellu]

hey lanuii, you R from some muslim country. How come that UR father is TaiwaneseÉ Is UR father a sailor?

[jijiwang]

shut your nip ass

[letmecnitellu]

Chinese and Taiwanese look the same. They are brothers. Don't fight. Make peace and make love. Pull yourself together and you will lead the world.

[billyedgar]

Fuck China and its bullshit. Taiwan is a free nation. I've lived in Taiwan for three years now, and it's nothing like China.

Taiwanese are friendly, considerate and polite. Chinese are selfish, arrogant, and have no manners whatsoever.

China thinks its destiny is to rule the world.

Fuck em

[machtkampf27]

True...china is a fucking shithole for stupid fucks that think Taiwan belongs to china

[mathpianist93]

@billyedgar: so you characterise all the peoples of one region to be as such? then YOU need to fuck off

[lztiff]

Can't wait for them to unit so that mainland China can snatch them altogether.

[channelloo]

just watch

[cockgirl99]

I dont think candidates care about china and taiwan at this moment. asian voters are not a big consideration.

[billyedgar]

It's also a democracy, unlike China which is run by criminals posing as communists

[Twcop]

3 facts to define communism:

1.militarism(the invastion of Afghanistan,Czech Slovakia,and otehr parts of Eastern Europe....and now TAIWAN.)

2.totalitarianism(over 25,000,000 ppl killed in the prison camps)

3.terrorism(they would put a bomb in your car once you betray them)

China is the only country has more than 3 facts to define communism

FREE HUGS in Taiwan nation 歡迎轉貼

[ddddiving]

shut your mouth,get off your fucking words here.

[mathpianist93]

@Twcop: you TW-ese are even more so terrorist thugs. threatening to attack a CIVILIAN target, namely Three Gorges

[billyedgar]

I've lived in Taiwan for the last three years.

Taiwan is an independent country. It has it's own government, legal system, and currency. The people here are a hell of a lot better than they are in China.

[Madsam02]

asking foreigners about chinese affairs?

americans must be laughing.

you should thanks them not to butt in.

[Twcop]

Communist Ideology Olympics is the beginning of its demise It resemble The Berlin Games in 1936 celebrated the triumph of Nazi ideology

China show off Communist ideology but hide human rights violations It bullying nations around the world through its economic and military powers

The Cultural Revolution turned into a cultural holocaust in which much of the legacy of five millennia of Chinese civilisation was destroyed

Outrage Beijing bars athletes from freedom of speech

UN Taiwan 歡迎轉貼

[Lynn4flybell]

sorry but this is not "chinese affairs" but affairs between the USA attitude towards two foreign countries. Would the US care about its relation to Iran? Yes. To China? Yes. To Taiwan? Yes. Then we want to know what they say about their relationships.

[Madsam02]

we are not talking about US relationships here.

[calebeurope02]

US coward won't support the bitch Taiwan if the bitch declares independence!

China wants the pussy of Taiwan, while US wants to share the Taiwan's anal with China!

End of the story! Silly bitch!

[Twcop]

法新社從中國河南發來一篇走訪愛滋村後的報導，指出溫家寶總理到­愛滋村去訪問，跟他握手的居然是當地政府安排的「演員」。

據德國之聲引述法新社的報導指出，1月底有未引起注意的海外華文­媒體報導，溫家寶2006年去河南上蔡縣文樓愛滋村，河南當局安 排1600名公安假扮村民歡迎他，這也許就是法新社記者說的「業­餘演員」。

此外，據報導，中國愛滋病維權者們估計，在廣大的中國一些偏僻的­角落，還會有一些犯罪分子從農民那裡購買血液血漿，而全然不顧衛 生問題，以求盡可能大地獲利。愛滋維權者們指責道，最近一段時間­來，又發生了更多的沉默和遮蓋現象。

FREE HUGS 5 regions UN for Taiwan

Welcome repost 歡迎轉貼

[Lynn4flybell]

Calebeurope02 actually made a point....Taiwan really has become this bitch that everybody just wants to use but never respect. That's very very true.

[machtkampf27]

Don't you think we should do something about it? Instead of accepting that we are being bitches? Or are you one of them sick fucks that think the KMT is righteous and Taiwan is a part of china?

[xuhao0629]

Is her eyes open?

[Powa2]

i think her eyes opened at at 00:03 then briefly closed again

[natrick123]

man I'm asian as well but yeah thats some funny shit.

[shangthebest]

o yea, MESSAGE TO FRIENDS ON TAIWAN:

u soon wont be able to wash ur teeth anymore, cos u guys ll soon suck our dicks

[oki81]

u r sexy ..

[banzaidawan]

GAME OVER FOR DPP IN TAIWAN.

[raiderbot]

she has to speak fast because the videos are suppose to be at most 30 seconds

[becher]

A MESSAGE TO MY FRIENDS ON THE CHINESE MAINLAND: please pay attention to the fact that you soon won't be able to watch YOUTUBE anymore! your government has got too much to hide.

[malagabee]

i agree, when I was in guangzhou, i experienced sensorship 1st hand. you can't access CNN except the front page, taiwanese websites or you tube, they r animals in the cage brainwashed by ccp and with their short term economic growth, they don't give shits about human rights and environment, you will not see or hear anything negative about the ccp on tv or radio. if u have a different voice, you will soon be shut down, sad . . .

[Imacoww]

taiwan just stays taiwan :]

[njnyri88]

If you were asking a question, why speak so fast????

[mklookings]

Taiwan is not really a democracy, Chan Shui Bian the crook is a dictator and betrayer of the Chinese nation.

[machtkampf27]

Is that what the commies put in your head? Taiwan is a free country no matter what and the fucking KMT are the crooks. Here in Taiwan, people try to live their lives to the fullest but stupid fucks lika Ma ying jo ruin it for the rest of us

[Powa2]

The KMT are the crooks eh? Is that why Chen when he was president, made no important contributions, the economy slowed, he shot himself trying to get support and stole over 20 million dollars. Most of the Taiwan you know now was built by the KMT.

[machtkampf27]

Dude, u gotta look at the big picture. Chen is pro-democratic. Ma is pro-PRC ass kisser. The economy hasn't gotten any better when Ma started to run as Prez. and the KMT has been stealing from our pockets ever since the establishment of this country. The KMT wants u to think Chen is bad cuz once Taiwan is independent...china can longer steal from us.

[Powa2]

Taiwan is already independent, the only person who was stealing from our country was Chen, tell me one accomplishment that he did? Can't? Of course not, he did Nothing!

[machtkampf27]

Taiwan is free, china is not. Why do you try to mix two different things together? You live in the US, u of all people should know that it's all about rights and voices of freedom. Chen couldn't do anythin cuz china likes to punk little countries with big missiles. But at least Chen and Lee stood for freedom, and fought for what they believed in!

[machtkampf27]

You say Taiwan is a part of china. And then you say Taiwan is already independent. Maybe you should look it up. And if china is so great, why don't you live in that piece of shit country instead of the US.

[Powa2]

If you look on my profile, I going here for University something you could never achieve.

[machtkampf27]

Well, aren't u a cocky little fuck. What u call achievement is so lame. I got 2 sisters attending Harvard law, a brother in Germany working for Heckler&Koch. I, myself, born and raised in California. I make 60,000nt per month translating for a private company, and Im 17. And all u got is that u go to a college that people have rarely heard of. But that's not the point..thing is, at least I have the balls to stand up in what I believe in...U KMT piece of shit

[Powa2]

I just answered your question, you should calm down and stop deluding yourself.

[machtkampf27]

Ur a disgrace to mankind. So go and fuck ur mom.

[Powa2]

Don't they teach etiquette from where you came from?

[machtkampf27]

Oh please...stop trying be all classy. Where I come from, they teach you to stand up for what u believe in. And to talk about etiquette, where were yours when you were mocking Chen? Now, ur being hypocritical

[Powa2]

And if you say you haven't heard of Brown you must've never been out of your room. Brown is part of the Ivy League, and is one of the best and the most prestigious in the country, it's also got one of the best law firms. I'm sure you're sisters must've heard of it.

[machtkampf27]

I dont give a rats ass where u go to school. Stop trying to change the subject cuz u know I'm right. Taiwan belongs to the people that believe in freedom. If you think ur so goddam perfect..compare urself with Chen..cuz nobody gives a fuck that you go to brown.

[machtkampf27]

Taiwan is not a democracy becuz of china and the KMT. Get ur facts straight. DPP stands for democratic progressive party, which is the pan-green coalition that chen is supporting, u stupid fuck..

[HasegawaMasato]

I was having trouble locating her eyes.....

[RoboticTyranno]

shut up ugly

[lustdog]

God , she is ugly ugly ugly.

[puzzle30]

no way, she is piaoliang 漂亮！

[lustdog]

LOL. Dude, where is your standard? She is damn ugly, man.

[Powa2]

Ew she is not piaoliang lol....

[OdaNobunaga]

Ludahai71, your comment is more extreme than popoTb. That's for sure. So calm down and let's debate respectfully.

[zumwane]

sigh... bottom line in the IR (international relationship) is peace and stability... I don't think the American is ready to trade LA over Taiwan..

[fengqifengqi]

Good question. Actually nobody have yet proved that democracy is better than monopoly. The consensus among the scholars is that the best society is the one that has a good dictator (though this is usually not the case in practice).

Anyway, democracy is not as important as you think. So go for the money.

[gaugwa]

are you sure you can keep all your money without democracy ?

[OdaNobunaga]

you mean monarchy? or Monopoly.. because monopoly does exist in United States.

[hank0325]

Is a paradox. A democratic Taiwan who spend enormous money to buy American made armary is most suit US interest & specially Taiwan just like Cuban missile-crisis in JFK era, only this time, is US missile sylo(paid by Taiwanese tax-payer) in Taiwan soil aimed on South-East coast of China. Best to work out this obstacle, indeed, is UN for Taiwan. Otherwise, there's no way to end this discussion. With no political identity, is the hardest ever.

[ericliutexas]

DDDD

[samwoo2go]

I will end this debate with one sentence...

ONE CHINA, AT ALL COST.

[popoTb]

FOR ALL OF YOU WESTERNS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT CHINA, actually "THE NEW CHINA",

please watch the following videos:

1. Paul Merton in China: China is more capitalist than Britain

2.Paul Merton in China: Shanghai outdoes New York

3. paul merton in china: Crab eating

or just search on youtube "paul Merton in CHINA"

hope you enjoy it !

UNDERSTAND OUR DIFFERENCES! give China a chance to show you the improvements and changes that China has MADE!

[popoTb]

OH MY! u are getting way out of line! i didnt insult u! if u feel that i did! then i m sorry! BUT DONT INSULT MY FAMILY!

& STOP trying to DIVIDe MY PPL AND COUNTRY!

AS I WILL Never INSULT UR COUNTRY AND PPL! OR UR FAMILY! but u have done all of the above to me!

here is an exact quote of what u said:

"Are ur family members as racist as u are?"

I can not answer such insulting questions! & i think u have more decency then this! It is just ur emotions speaking! I forgive u!

[popoTb]

OK you win! bye!

[popoTb]

oh i forgot ! yes i am not born in taiwan BUT I HAVE RElatives who are born and rised in Taiwan! lOL i forgot to mention them! Well they support Ah MA not AH BIEN! my relatives consider themselves Taiwanese CHinese and dont wnat INDEPENDENCE OR REUNITING! they want to keep things the way it is!

[popoTb]

OK! you are not debating no more! u r getting personal! Oh my is this how you r?

[popoTb]

As i said WE ARE PART OF THE HUMAN RACE!

but you are not a descendant of the Chinese ppl! which you will never be!

I can trace my roots and ancestors in CHina back 700 years into the early MING Dynasty! Can you?

I aint no Racist ! I am just a proud Chinese born in HONG KONG and have lived in Canada! i have seen the pros and cons of both commies and democries!

To me ! we normal ppl are just a FISH in the pond!

[popoTb]

lol racist?? seems like you are!

STOP DIVIDING MY COUNTRY! you are a propagandist and EXTREMIST!

And you have NO RIGHT TO JUDGE MY COUNTRY AND PEOPLE! as i have no right to judge yours!

[popoTb]

they are saying that to keep the country UNITED in terms of land BUT in ideology, gov't system, military-wise, Taiwan has its own!

ONE COUNTRY is a statement not for real!

Two SYSTEM is a fact! where Taiwan has its own everyTHING, army , gov't, freedom of whatever the F ever!

u understand now ?????????????

[popoTb]

even if u become a citizen!~ you are still not a descendant of CHina ! sorry to hit u with this but u will still be considered a "foreigner"

[popoTb]

Good for u for knowing so much about China's history!

Taiwan has been independ for 50 years ! and thats all you will need to know!

[popoTb]

14 000 years of existance and 5-6 thousand years of RECORDED history..... u fool!

I am happy that u call Taiwan your home!

BUT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO try to divid my people with these extremist statements!

YOU will not succed! leave my country's matter to my people!

enjoy your stay in Taiwan!

[popoTb]

taiwan is a BETTER example of 1 country 2 system at work then HONG KONG because taiwan had been 100% self governed island for 50 years!

[popoTb]

Oh one more thing!I will never ever dare to go to your home/country and make judgements on your Family matters!

China has been throughtout its 14 000 years of history filled with civil wars and power struggles! I THINK ITS TIME FOR MY PEOPLE TO UNITE!

democrats, republicians, conservatives, or communist gov't to me is just a LABEL! as long as my COUNTRY is not broken up and not invaded into like the west did in the OPIUM WAR! oh god i am glad already!

[popoTb]

Thanks again for your deep concern of my country and its people! you are welcome to stay in Taiwan! however, please leave the matter of China and Taiwan to my people to solve!

If you dont know enough of MY COUNTRY's history, please read more about it!

I SEE TAIWAN as an INDEPENDENT state! I AM PROUD OF TAIWAN AND PROUD TO BE CHINESE!

once again thanks for your concerns! But this is a matter of internal affairs of MY country, MY FAMILY ! please respect that!

[popoTb]

thanks for your comments of my Country! but it is OUR CHINESE internal affairs! i only debate this issue with Taiwanese (who i respect greatfully) and or CHinese.

CHINESE PEOPLE MOST UNITE! CHINESE PEOPLE MUST UNITE!

[popoTb]

you may live in Taiwan but that dont make you Taiwanese or Chinese! We are part of the human race but you are not descendants of China! And that makes you a foreigner

[popoTb]

you aint even Chinese! i think this is a matter of China's and Taiwan's internal affairs! Thanks for your deep concerns but keep in mind that over 4 millions Taiwanese travel to CHina each year and that Taiwanese invest more then 60 billion into China! The citizens of both China and Taiwan are pretty united! It is just the SOME Taiwanese politicians and some extremist in Taiwan who are playing the Independence game!

[popoTb]

HAHAHAAA.......they never show your video on the CNN live debate! IN fact they didn't even talk about TAIWAN hahaaa...

[popoTb]

lol as i said Taiwan is already independed and has been for 50 years ! Just dont delcare and officialized your already existing indpendence!

OH and SERIOUSLY china dont even want Taiwan!

[popoTb]

4. China have enough problems within its country then to worry about, bully, or threat taiwan.

5. taiwan is a BETTER example of 1 country 2 system at work then HONG KONG because taiwan had been 100% self governed island for 50 years!

[popoTb]

LOl China is being bullied by Taiwan!

1. Taiwan is already a 100% completely INDEPENDED island.

2.the taiwan gov't is using the threat of declaring its already existing INdependence as a bargaining chip with China! Inorder to make China cave in to taiwan's economic demands!

3. The founder of taiwan C.K.Shek never even wanted independence, which taiwan is commonly know in the international stage that it is already a self governed island!

[BoboTalkClownA]

Good question, but not very hot in todays political climate.

[tooosweeet]

Good question, I hope CNN will air it. The possibility of military action against Taiwan is a pretty scary thought. The US needs to stick behind Taiwan all the way, but careful not to hurt relations with China.

[popoTb]

first they did NOT air this or anyhting to do with Taiwan on the CNN debate! secondly taiwan is already an independ island! they elected their own president and run things by themself!

All that China is asking for is that taiwan dont delcare and officialise their existing independence! if taiwan dont declare that then there will be no war.